ICE Seizes Ivy League Student in Her Dorm
A student at Columbia University was detained Thursday morning by federal immigration officers.
Columbia University President Claire Shipman said that “federal agents made misrepresentations to gain entry to the building to search for a ‘missing person.’” The school’s campus has been closed to outsiders since 2024.
The president did not name the student, but it has been confirmed to be Ellie Aghayeva, an undergraduate neuroscience student who was expected to graduate this year. She was taken from her dorm room at the school’s New York City campus at 6:30 am.
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Does it count as impersonating a law enforcement officer, if you're a different kind of law enforcement officer? I would think so. But cops are legally allowed to lie. So maybe not?
Very likely. The statute doesn't seem to have an exception for one kind of cop lying about being a completely different kind of cop.
tHe WoRsT oF tHe WoRsT
MAGA hates the educated.
So did Pol Pot.
If I had a dollar for every time a neuroscience undergraduate student took my job, sold me drugs, and raped me I'd have at least five bucks
This is why we need to strike when they are in the early stages. Give someone like this enough time and they will start rotting our brains espousing pro-vaccine BS.
Y'all'queda says women should not go to school.
Why would ICE look for missing people in a dormitory? That's NYPD's job if it's anyone's.
They wouldn't, but the article says
If true, that is likely a crime.
The whole situation is a crime. But impersonating a police officer should at least get the NYPD to do something. Don't want ICE besmirching their good name do we?
I swear to the gods if the cops start fighting with ice and someone makes the LOTR “side by side with a “ joke about it I’m gonna have an aneurism
ACAB
Tbh I would also expect Columbia to lie about this for them. There's a pretty good chance they knew it was ICE and they decided to go with plausible deniability
I would be surprised if it is.
Some federal agents get temporarily deputized as local law enforcement in the areas they operate in (and vice-versa).
It's not illegal for law enforcement to lie.
Between 1 and 2, I'd be amazed if anything criminal could be charged here.
-Ex-cop
I think 1 is unlikely because it's NYPD and ICE. 2 is true broadly because there isn't a law forbidding it in general, but there is a law against lying about being a public servant.
I don't think there will be charges here, but I think a very ambitious prosecutor could bring charges. They might even find a jury mad enough to make them stick.
I don't know where you got that opinion from. Such things are truly routine for large local and most federal agencies. You don't hear about it for the same reason you don't hear people discussing gum chewing techniques; it's simply mundane and near-universal to them. There's going to be crossover between ICE and some of the more frequent federal deputizers, i.e. the U.S. Marshalls. I know this because I used to be a cop and plenty of my colleagues would be routinely snatched up and deputized for some quick federal thing, which was treated as an absolute nothing burger by all parties.
Comforting yourself with the idea that your opponent is so overwhelmingly incompetent that there's no way they could do anything dangerous is such a bad plan.
Frankly, I read the New York statute on the matter the other day and it didn't give me a clear idea that what they (allegedly) did in this case is illegal. They are "public servants" by the apparent definition New York uses. Will it be argued in court very soon? I surely hope so, and I surely hope they carve out a more explicit ban on this kind of thing.
But as you say, it's all barely worth discussing because few prosecutors would risk their literal or metaphorical necks going after ICE/NYPD.
I bet the author of the article knows. Since they wrote it in the article.
Assuming dorm counts as residence for 4th amendment purposes like an apartment? If there's no judicial warrant for it they had no justification for entering.
Who is going to stop them? ICE is determined to prove they are above all laws.
They have been doing this at people's homes for months now are you kidding
The Constitution has either specifically allowed ICE as they claim or it has been powerless to stop it. Either way it is unfit to exist.
It says she was also an influencer. How many bad things did she say about Trump or the GoP. Honnestly I'm convinced ICE is prioritizing political opponents.
What do you think the Palantir contract is for?
Whew! I'm sure glad they're getting rid of those dangerous neuroscientists. They might figure out stupid our government is.
It's likely it's also to stop them from moving to a better country afterward
They repeat the line about due process a lot, but not the fact she was there legally, which has to be inferred by the fact she came home after release.
Does the article come off as jarring, or is it just me?
Just ONE image of the political conpass with the dot being on Lib-Left... pretty sure that was the only reason
Hmm interesting...
I wonder what would've happened if Cuomo was in that position... would he even fight it? (probably not lol)
I hope Mamdani can save her and other innocents.
This has to be a Trump->ICE quotas thing; nothing else makes sense.
90% of racists still believe there are "good ones," and who's more of a "good one" than a neuroscientist?
Just goes to show you that it's never been about ridding the country of dangerous people.
“Worst of the worst”. Clearly /s
But yeah, while I want to say something about lax security, this is typically just students who are supposed to watch the door. It’s not reasonable to expect to resist being steamrolled by armed masked thugs
So now they’re weaponizing missing persons. Now no one is going to help the next time someone is in trouble
WTF is this Y axis?
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Thank you, grim news
Even influencers deserve due process
Ok, EVERYONE deserves due process, hell even fucking Trump deserves due process. For fucks sake.
yes. due process does not work unless everyone gets it. Its whole purpose is to prevent law enforcement from being able to do whatever they want with whoever they want.
Holy mental gymnastics.
Exactly HOW is this mental gymnastics? This is the reality.
It isn’t mental gymnastics, and is closer to the opposite. Your comment is nuancephobic. You’re equating someone who is a social media influencer about studying with someone who is literally pushing party propaganda.
It’s not a broad brush it’s a push broom.
Yes influencers are bad.
Yes big tech companies are evil, and an existential threat to our society and humanity
Yes there are influencers that use their platforms to promote the status quo
You seem to be putting that all on her, or at least describing no daylight between her and fucking Jeff Bezos himself.
Read it again through those eyes. You probably don’t actually think that way but that’s what I read and I think that’s what folks are reacting to.
I am for due process. I am annoyed at influencers. I have nothing personal against her.
But dammit, how long do we continue to just give a pass for people driving views and money to the very thing that is part of the problem? Or at least, like I was doing here: simply demonstrating the bizarre relationship people have with the organization that is advocating to eat their face?
If it was food, or housing, or transportation and there was no other alternative that would be one thing.
Do people really not understand that by participating on meta platforms, you are literally handing them money and a captive audience?
If you thought honestly about the stultifyingly obvious answer to this question, you could acknowledge the actual challenge ahead of us.
Not everyone is where you are. People like us who have left the social media and big tech ecosystem are crazy rare right now, and we definitely need way more people to understand and join us in negating the power we've given them over ourselves.
Your initial comment implied she basically had it coming because she was a mouthpiece for big tech.
We literally cannot afford to be this sanctimonious. We do not have the numbers.
Everyone under 30 needs a side hustle to make ends meet, especially in a school as godawful expensive as Columbia. Neuroscience by day, OnlyFans by night, because otherwise you're living out of your mom's car in a Staten Island trailer park.
Past that...
Clearly and obviously a lie. But when you're at a pro-genocide university, I guess this is table stakes.
When your side hustle is making money for meta, my level of give a fuck goes way down.
Of course I think this is awful. No excuse for what ice did, but damn.
Jfc buddy. Get a grip already.
Obviously, anyone who isn't making their social media accounts exclusively Mastadon should be dragged out into the street and shot.
Bullshit. I am commenting directly on this:
Her participation drives revenue, ads, and people to this platform. She is part of the problem.
Again: I think what ice did, and is doing, is awful. And I am not being completely serious, I was joking because I hate "influencers" to some degree. But I hate meta more for what they are doing. It all just makes me shake my head, this is not a secret, she had to have known.
Found the meta supporter.
Way to not contribute. And people wonder why we are in this mess.
But why am I even writing this? Chances are you are illiterate, hence the resort to little pictures?
Bro stop digging.
I will put it this way. If I found out this woman had been a nazi, and a pedophile, and a canabal, and a warewolf, and a vampire, and secretly donald trump in drag, I would STILL insist on being given the same rights to due process and a fair trial as everyone else.
Here, it's just grabbing her from her dorm, and she gets no say, no process.
The process needs to work if we're to trust it.
I was joking, yes everyone should get due process. But damn, why did she have to work for the very thing caused this?
so you support meta? All for that huh?
You know more than one thing can be true, yes its a joke. Yes it is also sad that the very thing she was using was out to get her. Hence the "damn" as in despair. But you dont give a fuck. Too busy with the "gottem!"
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.
Are you usually reading about violating peoples rights and then choose to basically tell someone else to kill themselves when they point out the irony of supporting the very propaganda machine that helps facilitate it?