Spyke
lemmy.ca

"I can destroy the trade. I can destroy the country," Trump said.

"I'm allowed to impose a foreign destroying embargo, I can embargo, I can do anything I want, but I can't charge $1." In a bizarre explanation, Trump said he "was very modest in my ask of other countries".

"I didn't want to do anything that would affect the decision of the court," he said.

"I wanted to be a good boy."

"I didn't want to hurt you, but you've left me no choice." He thinks about everything like a violent, abusive rapist. Probably because he's a violent, abusive rapist.

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lemmy.world

Lol nice president you got there 😂 and people keep sucking his flaccid dick

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MagicShelreply
lemmy.zip

They are too young to know better. Or vote. Or probably drive.

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4amreply

Many of them are old, white, Christian psychopaths

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lemmy.world

If our country can be destroyed by any President, that means that there is no longer sufficient separation of powers, and that our federal government is completely worthless.

He is so ignorant of his job and real duties that he doesn't even realize this. He believes it, and he believes that he is righteous. That's because he's a narcissist who's never had to go shopping for groceries, who's never had to make his own dinner, who's never had to clean his own house, who's never had to even work for a living.

He is completely detached from reality, and him being President shows how rotten our government has become. He could NEVER be elected in anything resembling a functioning Republic.

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glorkonreply
lemmy.world

Well, to be quite honest, it also shows how rotten our so-called Western civilization has become. This man not only got elected, but millions upon millions of people thought it would be a great idea to reelect him - after Jan 6th and everything.

And that's not even an exclusively American problem. Look at Europe. Even with better education and safer social security, way too many people vote for far-right populists.

Before Corona, I still had hopes for us as a species. Despite all the religious nonsense, the racism, the bigotry, the hate, the wars, everything. I thought sensible people were a safe majority. I thought it takes extraordinary circumstances, the proverbial perfect storm, to plunge a society into chaos.

Well, I know better now. I'm 49 and with any luck, I'll have 30 more years on this planet, maybe I get lucky and there will be no wars on my doorstep. I'm utterly, utterly disappointed in mankind, I would almost go as far as to say I root for its demise. I have no kids, I don't feel like I have a horse in this race anymore anyway.

And Trump is the epitome of everything wrong with us.

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We agree 100%, Trump is the President we deserve. Mooks have been worshiping him for 50 years, he's talked about running or office for almost as long, and he's EXACTLY what he's always been. And then, to get reelected? Oof

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There never was a sufficient separation of powers. This and the much-vaunted checks and balances, it turns out, only exist if the person in the White House consents to them existing, and consents to being under the rule of law.

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lazysoci.al

This should be a quote used by textbooks for centuries to come.

Either he will destroy democracy or this will be a turning point for more progressive leaders to become elected.

Most likely the former.

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D_Creply
sh.itjust.works

Yes, but the real issue is not what was said so much as who said it.
I can actually understand a clever, charming, and charismatic person going evil and saying it after trying to become a dictator.

Well, not understand it, but not be shocked by it.

What I can not understand and what is shocking is how a thing like that orange child rapist could ever get a chance to have the power to say it...

A notoriously corrupt, quite obviously a russian stooge, blatantly racist, confirmed rapist, totally inept, stupid reality TV star, 6 times bankrupt, Epstein's best mate, and unregistered kiddie fiddler.
Anyone of those should stop a person from having any real political power, yet the tantrumping toddler did all of the above -plus much more- and still gets elected, TWICE. . Then says that sort of shit and no fucker owns enough spine to say "Yeah, we need to get rid of him. He's a fucking loony".
I just can't understand it.

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The answer is that the average conservative really is that fucking stupid.

They don't think, they follow party lines. Thinking takes away from drinking, and it's easier to just stumble down whatever path their overlords dictate.

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mirshafiereply
europe.pub

It will be even funnier if the sign says "no fascist have ever been removed by a protest"

Not sure if people might take it the wrong way though, it might be a bit too based.

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piefed.zeromedia.vip

Protests show the people who are afraid that they’re not alone. Protests show the people in power that there is a real threat. They may be peaceful now, but if things continue they may no longer have peaceful protests.

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Also, protesting provides training for organizing and brings up voices and leaders that are needed for future actions to be successful.

The leaders we read about during past revolts didn't just appear on the front lines magically. In the past many revolts took years or decades to transform the territory. With sometimes several generations of leaders playing important parts in the process.

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Absolutely, I'm not saying we shouldn't protest. But protests do need to be coupled with a real threat (i.e. "we will go on strike" or similar)

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lemmy.world

"a Political Movement that is far smaller than people would think — But obnoxious, ignorant, and loud!"

🤔

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lemmy.ml

State of Union speech is tomorrow night. Trump's batshit insanity is going to be legendary.

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kent_ehreply
lemmy.ca

I'll wait for the executive summary.

If I am forced to watch him for an entire speech I'll punch a hole through my TV screen.

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BigDictionreply
lemmy.world

I’m normally adverse to sound bites because 95% of the time more context helps their point, but I just can’t stand hearing this MF talk for more than a minute.

Even during the State of the Union under Obama I stopped watching them. Way too much hold for applause.

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I’m glad I’m not the only one. I don’t have enough blood pressure meds in the house to combat his stupidity

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lemmy.ca

“So I said, ‘Let me ask you a question, and [the guy who makes boats in South Carolina] said, ‘Nobody ever asked this question,’ and it must be because of MIT, my relationship to MIT —very smart. He goes, I say, ‘What would happen if the boat sank from its weight? And you’re in the boat and you have this tremendously powerful battery and the battery is now underwater and there’s a shark that’s approximately 10 yards over there?’ By the way, a lot of shark attacks lately, do you notice that, a lot of sharks? I watched some guys justifying it today. ‘Well, they weren’t really that angry. They bit off the young lady’s leg because of the fact that they were, they were not hungry, but they misunderstood what who she was.’ These people are crazy. He said there’s no problem with sharks. ‘They just didn’t really understand a young woman swimming now.’ It really got decimated and other people do a lot of shark attacks. So I said, so there’s a shark 10 yards away from the boat, 10 yards or here, do I get electrocuted if the boat is sinking? Water goes over the battery, the boat is sinking. Do I stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted, or do I jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted? Because I will tell you, he didn’t know the answer. He said, ‘You know, nobody’s ever asked me that question.” I said, ‘I think it’s a good question.’ I think there’s a lot of electric current coming through that water. But you know what I’d do if there was a shark or you get electrocuted, I’ll take electrocution every single time. I’m not getting near the shark. So we’re going to end that.”

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A_Areply
lemmy.world

Would he have a stroke (with hard seizures) on live TV , i would pray eternally to the divine cholesterol.

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Same. I swear I will start going to church if Trump strokes out on live TV.

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Oh god, this is going to be a national embarrassment.

You know, like all his other speeches, but even more...

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lemmy.world

Yeah, we already know, because you've been doing it. "Do what I want or I'll kill everybody!" He's a child, just like the rest of MAGA.

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As damaging as he is he is mostly concerned with enriching himself.

It's the ghouls around him that have the actual follow through that do the most damage. Peter Navarro, Steven Miller etc are the ones who keep things moving while Trump naps in the corner shitting himself.

If Trump actually remembered he made this threat he could definitely be more active destroying American hegemony and quality of life.

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For anyone wondering, the three "justices" who sided with trump were Kavanaugh, Thomas, and Alito.

No surprises there. If anything, Roberts, Gorsuch, and Barrett ruling against him is the surprise. It's a win for constitutional rule of law.

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_skjreply
lemmy.world

They're concerned about the precedent set if they allow taxation to be included as part of regulatory powers. If they allowed this, then precedent is set for the next Dem president to come in and just start taxing companies that don't align with their policy goals. So something like taxing carbon emissions no longer needs Congressional approval.

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True. Also, giving tax powers to a "unitary executive" is literally taxation without representation.

There's a reason it's in the purview of congress.

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Are they though? They are do everything in their power to avoid ruling on what an "emergency is". The only reason they ruled this day is because the law he used pretty obviously is not meant to include tariffs in "regulation". The Supreme Court says in both the ruling and dissent that there is nothing from stopping him from just using a different law.

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PhoenixDogreply
lemmy.world

I think Barrett is a fucking slug, but as far as I've observed she genuinely wants to side on the side of the country. She's just a woman surrounded by men appointed by a fucking narcissistic fascist, so sometimes voting is needed for her survival? Maybe?

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sopuli.xyz

I agree for the most part with what you're saying. I disagree with her politics, but she usually doesn't let her personal ideology, religion, or political affiliations get in the way of doing her job as a supreme court justice where she's supposed to be impartial in interpreting the law as it's written. She's not a sycophant like some of her colleagues

This isn't the first time she's sided with the constitution over the maga agenda. Her record isn't spotless, but it's not as irredeemably tainted as some of the others.

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I think what you said is a much better way of saying what I wanted to. Thanks.

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15 years ago such a statement would have been unthinkable. Look where we are now and how fast we’ve gotten there. The repubicans went apeshit over a tan suit, but this? They sit on their hands.

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MBechreply
feddit.dk

Don't forget the bougeoir mustard!

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MBechreply
feddit.dk

Get your educated words out of here!

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Most prolific traitor in the history of the United States of America.

Being prevented from receiving a traitor's punishment by the ultra wealthy and inbreds across America.

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At this point it looks like dementia might be his defense against the treason charges.

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Some voters somehow looked this idiot and said 'nope, no point casting my vote...'

Bystander effect on a national scale

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"I can destroy the country" ??? Change to "I am destroying your country, I have no allegiance except to the golden calf.".

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Jfc... I guess I owe The Boys an apology. I thought they were laying it on a bit thick with the Homelander=Trump connections, but I guess not.

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Well... Trump has yet to murder a complete court room to be worse then Homelander.... But otherwise.. Invoking hate speech into citizens to the point they use violence and starting wars they have these checks of destroying further the world...

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piefed.social

I will say it again. Citizens accept the constitution, patriots support and defend the constitution, traitors violate or ignore the constitution.

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Well the thing with the constitution is there is a mechanism for changing it. The legalization of prison slavery came with making slavery more generally illegal. Improving the constitution by fighting to get that amendment changed would, to me, be an act of supporting it because you are looking to improve it. Of course that would only be if you wanted it changed to get rid of that loophole rather than say folks who want to revert it to how it was before.

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"I have been destroying the country and will continue to" yeeeeah we knew before and we still know

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blah blah blah fuck this dipshit, i'm wasting less of my time of this fuckwad this time around, but still fuck this fucking bag of shit.

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lemmy.world

chrissake, get this dangerous fool out of power.

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He always proves he is more stupid than you thought possible. It is like his special power.

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So his argument is basically "I can bomb a county but I can't extort a country for protection money". Amazing.

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That is literally his plan. He said it out loud, again?! What will it take for you imbeciles to stop him!! Do you like America? Because you are going to be the pariah of the world and the next Russia if you don't do something about it. Get used to it or get up.

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My dude, to use something as a threat, it needs to be something that you're not already doing.

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lemmy.zip

I'm just happy that I'm young enough that no matter what I'll get to see that shit stain die.

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HermitBeereply
feddit.uk

Maybe. Even assuming you live to a ripe old age, Trump only has to keep going a couple more years until AI is going to be indistinguishable from actual footage. Keep Trump holed up in Mar-a-Lago for "security reasons" and he never needs to die. He can remain president-for-life.

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lemmy.world

couple more years until AI is going to be indistinguishable from actual footage

Eh. We've had the capacity to fake footage for a long, long time. Con-artists were faking UFO sightings in the 50s and fooling people. Skeptics were questioning holocaust photos and 9/11 footage a generation ago and straight up denying dashcam footage of police brutality straight into the modern moment.

AI can fake a particular moment and whip people up, but it can't stand any serious interrogation or follow-up. It is only good at showing people what they were already primed to believe.

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HermitBeereply
feddit.uk

AI can fake a particular moment and whip people up, but it can't stand any serious interrogation or follow-up. It is only good at showing people what they were already primed to believe.

Oh sure. I'm not saying it would need to stand up to any scrutiny. But the truth is getting less and less relevant.

And honestly, if an eternal AI Trump managed to deliver on the economy, and not deport too many white immigrants, it would probably be a shoe-in for decades to come, regardless of how implausible it was.

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But the truth is getting less and less relevant.

The mechanism for manufacturing bullshit is moving from a largely human endeavor predicated on a handful of big name labels circulating rumor and innuendo to an increasingly automated process driven by digital hustlers and independent con-artists tapping into third party toolkits.

When you're coming out of the generation that got lied into the invasion of Iraq and bullshitted into the First Trump Admin, largely thanks to heavily consolidated traditional media pushing Oil Company and Big Bank financed misinformation, it's hard to talk about "truth getting less relevant". This was a generation that saw Dan Rather lose his job for accurately reporting a sitting President's embarrassing record in the Air National Guard, while the network next door was pumping out an endless stream of "Climate Change is a Hoax" and "Jimmy Carter caused the Great Recession" headline gore.

AI isn't the game changer we like to pretend. The volume of misinformation and outright fabrication in the US media has a long and storied history.

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Never ceases to amaze me how despite all the things he's done up to this point and even saying something like this isn't enough for us to all collectively just stop working for a day and protest them out of the country. Idk if it was just editorial hoopla when the South Korean president got kicked out of office not that long ago but the screenshots from their protests were admirable.

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The US got the president it voted for. But I like that his leopard is eating a lot of republican faces too.

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lemmy.world

Listen, Americans need to fix their shit. It's affecting the rest of the world in a bad way. If Americans can't stand up to these assholes running their country then, yes, the rest of the world would prefer America fails quickly and stops being a drag on the rest of the world. Most people in the world would much rather Americans fix their shit, but it doesn't look like it's headed that way.

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amorpheusreply
lemmy.world

What a convoluted way to tell someone that you can't counter their argument.

Let me give you a different starting point: why would it be better if the collapse/downfall of the USA happened more slowly?

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What a convoluted way to tell someone that you can’t counter their argument.

Trolls think they have won when they say shit like this. Nope. You don't own any of my time and I am free to say when I think something is a waste of time.

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Aulireply
lemmy.ca

Well maybe the world shouldn't have relied on America for technology protection and all the other shit they do. It was short sited sited and stupid to let your companies be purchased by a foreign country.

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The onus is on you to show why that would preferable. It's super easy to just say things would be better if.

I'm curious how a collapse of the largest economy and sudden diaspora of the largest military on earth would be a non-drag on anyone else. Even if a wizard waved a wand and made the US disappear, there would definitely still be global pain.

I wonder how unconcerned the rest of the world would be with an untethered Trumpistan south, freshly empowered by their de jure abandonment of all laws and any diplomacy, armed with nukes and infrastructure operated by hand picked loyalists.

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I'd love to, but I'm afraid y'all are doing such a good job that there's nothing for an amateur like me to do.

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