Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras. Anger over ICE connections and privacy violations is fueling the sabotage.
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Good, fuck this panopticon dystopia shit.
Also, some guy sliced the entire pole and left a message:
They sell battery powered angle grinders at Harbour Freight.
Paint ball guns with permanent ink ammunition works too.
Just please wear properly rated safety glasses and keep them away from bystanders.
Also
i prefer the one in the picture by a commentor, permanently remove the flock camera.
Permanently remove that camera. They can always put up another. Inking the leanse or dome will still require I new camera installed. Actually shooting the camera with a real gun is probably the best option.
Waaaaay easier and cheaper to replace the lenses than a whole pole, including everything that was on it. And I think an angle grinder with some disks would cost about as much as a paintball gun with permanent ink ammo, and the former being much more bang for your buck in terms of damage done and also use other than for this.
But the way this are repaired and replaced, one ability to damage or obstructe the camera quickly and without being noticed is going to be the most important thing. Ankle grinding on a poll for 2 min isn't ideal. What is the camera isn't mounted on a poll? The result is going to be a technician coming out and installing a new camera. Swing back around a couple well placed shots from 50 years away. Beats having to spend another 2min with a grinder.
Pay cash
Wear a mask
And smoke a little grass?
Definitely eat ass
No need to be crass.
Enough with the sass
You can get the same thing cheaper via Craigslist and they’ll have a harder time tracing ownership. A crackhead hawking stolen hardware store crap is not going to really be as helpful to the surveillance state as they’d like.
Damn that's aluminium, not steel. You can do that with an angle grinder, reciprocating saw, or even a mapp gas torch
I can definitely cut steal with my angle grinder.
But what about steel?
"crime"
This news man lol
Killing nazis is also a crime. Both currently, and throughout nazi Germany. Do with that information what you will.
Guess who else also needs to be "vandalized"
lol
Great word choice.
It’s quite common to hear we’re living in a digital panopticon. See modern philosophers.
Can't have shit in Detroit.
lol that's so cool!
looks like he tore it off at the end after slicing most of it.
Props to the camera person for showing the message.
Every small resistance counts ✊
my neighbor hood has one right at the entrance. I make a point of flipping it off every time i pass it. Also, If you were curious how many of these violations of privacy are around you. Here you go- https://deflock.org/map
Everyone should start 3d printing faces of Epstein and take them everywhere they go
No curiosity here. I just assume I'm being monitored everywhere I go now, though I keep my phone in a faraday bag when I'm not using it, so that at least is something.
All a person can do now is manage the problem incrementally. I love the idea of people sabotaging doorbell cams though.
This is too defeatist for me. I am upset to see these all over town, but too small minded to do anything about it. I want to start something to pressure community leaders to change, but i worry that i'll make a lot of noise then drop it like i do with everything. I'd love to join with a group.
Follow that link above. There’s a few great online communities around this. One involves keeping these camera out of places that don’t have them yet, for example.
Check out Benn Jordan and Louis Rossman on YT as they are two people spearheading this from a social standpoint. Louis specifically regularly provides links to contacting your legislators about it, including things to say to them. It’s faster and easier than you’d think to do.
On a macro scale I do think the privacy ship has sailed. Seeing the leaked illegal footage in the Guthrie case confirmed that the big tech companies are spying on us, storing the footage permanently, and leaking it to the government covertly upon request. I don't think it's unfair to presume that both ruling parties know and love this, which means we're never turning back that clock.
On the local level, though, change is still eminently possible. I actually drafted an email to my HOA this morning about getting these doorbell cams banned in my building.
Yeah, I don't think it's reasonable to give up in the face of it.
You should make it as hard as possible for them to track you, use private OpenSource software, advocate for it and don't be afraid if direct action, like destroying these cameras. The more people that do it, the harder it will be for them to do something about it.
Oh, I do.
I just don't trust the majority to do anything meaningful themselves. It's why recycling doesn't work and why Democrats and Republicans keep getting elected. Our only power now is local.
Yup. And also we should advocate for our rights more locally. Organize with other people, raise awareness and do direct action.
I think the most effective form of resistance is relationships and new local organisations and new structures that resist the forces of the state and of capitalism.
If you are looking for some ideas, maybey you can look here or do your own research.
Can you share the email draft? How does one convince a bunch of (most likely) MAGA morons to restrict doorbell cams? They love surveillance and ICE.
Stop this defeatist attitude. Yes, the Democrats are working for the ruling class. That doesn't mean we're so over, it just means we have to adapt our strategy. "Vote blue no matter who" is a dead strategy. Electoralism itself is at best harm reduction. We need to build a new movement from the ground up for the working class.
A black trash bag, a roll of duct tape, and a ladder are not destructive but still very effective.
Just be aware, many of these cameras have multiple other cameras pointing at eachother. Also the map cant be trusted to show all cameras. my neighborhood alone, has at least 4 that dont show up on the map.
Multiple black trash bags, then.
Also, if you know of some that aren't mapped (and are actually flock cameras, not city) you should add them.
Ehh then your destroying a persons property. And they might not know how bad they are.
Tell hood he should take that thing down!
Well, that's actually better than I thought. I wonder if Seattle got rid of them? Home Depot (Pieces of Shit) and an Amazon building that overlooks the interstate seem to be the only ones in Seattle proper.
Seems to be an American thing only.
China and the UK lead the surveillance world.
This is exactly what this company deserves, to be smashed out of business and history.
Reminder: If you destroy a camera, be aware that other cameras in the area may be recording you as well. Protect your identity.
Leave your fucking phone at home too.
Faraday bags work... But test them.
I got a cheapo $7 Chromebook sized bag that seemed to work for my SOs iphone. We don't use NFC so I couldn't test that.
No BT, WiFi, or Cell, and probably no GPS.
I only did casual testing.
The screen still showed the signal having low bars for WiFi and cellular, but it didn't actually receive a signal at all when trying to call or use the net, not even with the top of the bag open a sliver and my hand in there.
If the device was off or in airplane mode and in the bag, I'd be comfortable assuming it was safely hidden from tracking.
I haven't thoroughly tested my various personal devices, but I expect identical results.
I think everyone should probably have a bag like this around, in a go-bag or something, just in case. And it's safer to have your phone available than not, as long as it's secure (use a pin or password to lock it, use encryption, put emergency info on it for first responders).
If you're going to use a Faraday bag, use it regularly, like every day at random times.
Imagine you are being accused of a crime. The crime occured at 8pm. The phone records show that your phone went dark at your house 7pm and then reconnected at 9pm at your house. The crime scene is 1 hour away from your home by foot. Records show this is the only time your phone went dark in a very long time.
So if you bag your phone (aluminium foil bags work pretty good too), do it regularly, randomly, and don't bag it and unbag it immediately before leaving or after getting home
That’s why you do this as part of a massive crowd of people that don’t know eachother. Overwhelm them.
Bring laser pointers to protests
Similar to what happened in Hong Kong a few years back when the CCP introduced metal telephone poles chock full of monitoring equipment and cameras.
Offtopic, but it's sad how all discussion about Hong Kong just slipped away into the void. I think this is the first time I've seen it mentioned in almost a year.
One of my friends just didn't even remember it happening, he thought I was making it up at first.
It’s sad, but I don’t think there’s much else that can be done. I guess it’s all running how the CCP wants it now? (Or are there still protests we just don’t hear about?)
Beijing inserted candidates into the local elections, won power and passed sweeping National Security laws which allowed for mass arrests and the breaking up of pro-democracy institutions. The key people in the movement were jailed. New laws, mass arrests and detainment effectively ended protests.
TL;DR: it was crushed.
Hong Kong's now just another Mainlander city... with British characteristics.
That’s a microcosm of what they want to do in Taiwan.
Fun fact: lots of them have exposed cables that should not be cut with a long arm pruning pole found in your grandmother's shed.
Another thing you should never ever do: mix paint and dot3 in a handheld pressurized garden poison sprayer.
Be aware brake fluid is like antifreeze, it tastes good to animals if they don't put bad taste in it, and kills them.
They're dying for an honorable cause. /s
Why shouldn't dot3 mixed with paint? Just so I know why to avoid it.
guessing because it goes through the sprayer
Thins the paint's viscosity down maybe?
I don't know. I'm not a wizard
Brake fluid would etch the glass of the lenses. Cleaning the surface wouldn't return the camera to service. Better than paint would be any other substance to thin out the brake fluid for application, particularly if it were less noticeable than paint. That would cause the repair order to come in from lost data collection rather than a report of vandalism, denying them creeping time and that sweet, sweet data. Definitely don't do that.
I didn't know that, and I have used liters of the stuff. Learn something every day.
Is it just Dot3? Dot4 is more common these days.
BTW, kids, we are talking about brake fluid, so don't go spraying it on your camera lenses!
Was away for a few days and just saw this reply. Yeah, brake fluid is super corrosive, especially on glass. The DOT rating (3, 4, 5, etc.) doesn't play a role in how corrosive it is, it's more about the different additives and composition of the specific fluid and what it's service life is. The more you know...
Yeah, Ive been working on engines (mostly my own, for fun) for decades, and I never knew about brake fluid and glass.
Why not?
Because that would be illegal, and advice in easy-to-acess ways to sabotage fascism should not be shared anywhere.
What would brake fluid do?
Just gonna leave this here for anyone so inclined
https://github.com/colonelpanichacks/flock-you
Yeah I'm based in one of the highest density ALPR regions in the country, this would just be going off constantly lol
Fuck centralized surveillance.
I would like to have a brief discussion with whoever downvoted you.
I think it was accidental.
That's the beauty of downvotes: no f-ing context on why people disagree with you or if they even do and are just holding a vendetta from somewhere else, since they aren't forced to indicate why.
The account enjoys making a lot of very questionably inconsistent downvotes over their far fewer upvotes and even comments their own suggestion on how to sabotage Flock surveillance cameras in the thread yet doesn't seem to be an edgelord in their own comments, so who knows. Unlike upvoting, where you presumably agree with a comment, downvoting provides no context as you have no clue why or how much they disagreed with something. Presumably the statement was too simplistic to resonate with their refined tastes, which to avoid the downvote should presumably have been stated with the collection of words they would favor as an argument, if they ever bothered to make it.
I don't take is so personally. I have someone periodically following me around downvoting everything I write too it appears. It's pathetic.
I don't take any particular downvote personally, I just have a problem with the whole unregulated concept of downvoting is, and I think there's a reason why the same networks that brought it into popularity over the predecessors that didn't have are also the ones rampant today toxicity, cult-on-demand bubbles, circlejerks, and the like. Lemmy is the one platform where downvoting really isn't worth anything - well, at least unless the piefed guys have a say in it, from my understanding. If it ever became popular to try to act like the upvote/downvote ratio means something in Lemmy, it would be far easier to manipulate and take advantage in contrast to non-federated platforms, and I already commonly see accounts with almost no comment or post participation since a few months just being used to slap upvotes and downvotes on an hourly basis.
It would just be so simple to improve, but people just keep trying to clone the same flawed systems that made them leave other platforms.
I think >50% of my up votes are me swiping right to go back but missing the screen border by a tiny bit, causing the jerboa swipe to vote to kick in.
so who knows, maybe they just accidentally hit the downvote arrow while scrolling?
Do comments around here get disappeared or hidden if they get enough downvotes? If not, then I could give two fucks whether a comment gets 1 downvote or 100.
Sometimes my big finger hit the wrong button.
Well, the CEO did openly invite and approve of this. In his own words, Flock cameras aren't forced on anyone. So the only logical conclusion is to destroy them if so desired.
There's one a block from my house, and three blocks from my work, so they can see me coming and going each direction.
...BRB
There's two on each of the roads to my favorite local freeway and there's two in the parking lot of my local hardware store
"Sabotage"
Yeah, it's a weird way of spelling "liberation".
Pesky German dissidents sabotage military equipment, 1944.
I just learned HGTV has a Jan 7 2026 show called "Neighborhood Watch". It's like America's Funniest Home Videos, but it's all doorbell/security cameras. User-submitted, I think. I absolutely refuse to believe this was a casual idea from HGTV as they struggle to maintain viewership. There's no way this isn't funded by one of these companies, meant to continue making everyone comfortable with constant surveillance and increasing the desire to have constant recording devices to catch these one-off comedic moments.
Tagline: "Everywhere you go, cameras are recording. Your neighbors are watching."
How would you take such a camera down without being spotted and tracked? Do they not look in all directions?
Not asking for all the technical details on how to take one down, just curious how so many can be taken down with so few arrests after. I guess it's a matter of good disguises?
Leave your phone at home.
Don't drive your own car there, and don't get an uber.
Ride a scooter, bicycle, or walk.
Wear a dust mask, headphones (to prevent ear pattern recognition) and safety glasses.
Wear a high vis vest while working on the camera. The retro reflective strips show up as dazzling white on infrared cameras, washing out the image. It also helps make any witness assume you're a legitimate worker
Wear dark clothing with no logos over the top of something dorky, like a white Ralph Lauren shirt and golf shorts. Ditch the dark clothing if you even sense you might be stopped on the way home.
Put duct tape on the soles of your shoes to make the shoe prints indistinct.
Wear gloves, rigger gloves are fine, latex if you have nothing else.
Work quickly, never run (unless your under disguise is a jogging outfit).
if you see a cop, security, or any person that suspects you, believe in your heart and soul that you haven't committed a crime. Find a way to delete the act from your memory, become an innocent person in your own mind.
Emotional escalation to cop should be indifference, confusion, irritation, indignant, suspicion, and when detained or arrested, lawful but otherwise silent cooperation. That's how innocent people behave when suspected or accused of a crime. Once detained, say nothing except your name, age, DOB, address, license number ect and "I don't know, I need to speak to a lawyer." Even though they will ask you a thousand questions to try to get you to implicate yourself. There is nothing you can say that will talk you out of cuffs.
Specifically say you are invoking your right to silence and specifically say you are invoking your right to council.
If they continue to pester you after this, it's a violation of your rights and a lawyer will have more ammunition to defend you.
If they come back hours later and try talking to you again, you invoke them again. After a significant period of time (whatever the cop decides) they can try again to "see if you've changed your mind."
But just staying silent is not the same in the courts as invoking your right to remain silent.
People tend to want to talk and fill silence. You'll have to control your urges and learn to be comfortable in silence.
Also, don't sweat too hard because covering/uninstalling cameras like this is misdemenor-level vandalism (don't take the cameras, they cost enough to warrant felony grand theft charges).
You'll have a bond and the bond will be low enough that most bail bondsmen will bond you out on promise of payment even if you don't have someone outside ready to come get you.
If you're caught, you're looking at a few months of probation and restitution. If confronted by police, stay calm, follow orders, "I don't want to answer questions without a lawyer" and "" are all you need to say. Do that an you'll be right back home opening a gofundme in no time.
Don't do crimes though, obviously.
Yeah, don't say you don't know if you do, that's lying, which is a crime in this situation. You can answer crime related questions with questions (avoidance). But don't do that for everything. If they push, start asking if you're free to go. If they say no, invoke the 5th.
Don't do their jobs for them.
Don't answer any questions that could incriminate you. Or talk to them in general. But be polite when you do speak.
Only tell them your name or provide other required identity information. Don't say where you are going or coming from. Don't explain anything. Don't tell stories. Don't lie.
One thing missing from the list is disguising your gait/walk. I don't know how far along they are with reconciling databases about it, but the technology to identify you by the way you walk already exists. I hear adding a pebble in your shoe helps.
Damn I knew I forgot something. Good point. I've also heard of wearing a different shoe on each foot, like sneaker on one foot and hiking boot on the other, both to fuss up you gate and leave even more conflicting prints.
They usually face one direction. And don't place them to watch each other afaik.
Well, that might change after this though.
Even if they do, don't be a dumbass and have your phone on you and be completely covered and approach the device via analogue method (e.g. walking, bicycle without a serial, etc).
As an aside, I’ve been toying with the following idea:
I like to refurbish bicycles for my own use. The idea I’ve had is to buy cheap Facebook marketplace / Craigslist bikes, disassemble, grind off the serial, and paint in a uniform and non identifiable (or at least less so) and reassemble, replacing wear parts. Put them into the community to use however they see fit, cheap enough to ditch without caring.
Community bikes are not a new thing. They had them in my hometown through most of my youth and teen years, and may still. I don't live there anymore. 🙁
They had a strong bike community, and a bike store and repair shop off a main ped/cycle path through town, just outside downtown. It had a lounge and was the primary source of the community bikes and their maintenance.
Paint the bikes all a similar bright color, not white, and get stickers made with info about use and contact info for pickup and repair.
Like, "I'm a community bike, use me as you like, leave me somewhere responsibly when you're done with me, so somebody else can use me too. Contact for pickup or repairs 555 RIDE 4ME"
Thank you for that. I love it. But can I ask why paint a bright color? I would think flat black is what the current environment calls for.
It's going to get picked up by a kid or a drunk guy and end up in the nearest body of water.
What's the business model of the repair shop in that situation?
The idea of a bunch of surveillance cameras watching other surveillance cameras only to prevent vandalism of the surveillance cameras…
it’s sorta like llm agents in a social network talking amongst themselves, innit?
Who watches the watcher's watcher?
I've seen them installed in pairs that watch each other. I also see them in the vicinity of store security cams or intersection cams. I don't know of one in my area that isn't in range of another camera.
Wear appropriate clothing/face covering. Bring paint. Paint lenses. Then dismantle camera.
Balaclava and crowbar combo?
I would wonder if it would be illegal to promote your live of the country by hanging a giant flag directly in the viewing path of the camera. Would you get arrested for being too patriotic?
They're not omnidirectional. You can just walk up from behind it.
right, but you do have to approach it. I think the question is more "how are people not being tracked from blocks away"
Use Deflock maps to avoid them. Ride a bike. My city is full of rogue natural trails so I can get around pretty easy without coming across them. Even if I did I have an indistinct bike with no logos. Typical balaclava, hat, sunglasses, etc.
Yep, that's the direction I was thinking. The whole point of these cameras is to track people, including you, meaning that they can track everyone in the area before and after a camera is destroyed. It seems to me that the logical time to destroy a camera is when few other people are arround to stop/witness someone destroying a camera, but that also means there are few people to track and therefore it's easier to single out whoever did it.
Dress like an ice agent (but only for a brief moment please)
You mean wear something generic, unidentifiable and add some body armor?
Yeah but skip the axe body spray so people know you aren't really an ice agent.
Uhhhh I think the better question is how are they?
They are beginning to disguise them in cones, barrels and small ones on a pole as small as rebar.
Yes, that's why we have https://github.com/colonelpanichacks/flock-you
How can I help?
Also https://github.com/colonelpanichacks/flock-you
Edit: For the people confused, you install the firmware onto a OUI-SPY device, which will buzz when it detects the presence of Flock and other networks, and logs the location using your phones GPS, which can then be exported and submitted to the Deflock database.
What am I supposed to do with this?
See edit.
I have no idea what any of this does or how I’m supposed to make it work for me.
See edit.
Thank you. That helps immensely.
Np!
Just like everyone is quitting facebook, ChatGPT, and all the other things people are boycotting that seem to never have anything happen to them.
Already deleted my FB. Instagram is getting close with how many "suggested" posts they cram into my feed that should be just my friends.
Not sure the lemmy crowd is representative of the general public trends.
Most likely not.
Benn Jordan has done great videos on this stuff
How would I go about finding a Flock camera?
Deflock.me
What are the chances that it's NOT a porn site?
Be brave, my random Internet friend. Click the link. It's either the info you want, or it's titties.
I was sorely disappointed to learn that the site did contain titties
I suppose we could make Flock feeds into porn sites...
i suspected there was some near our area, considered the speed cameras are suspiciously placed on an area that doesnt have much traffic to begin with.
This behavior from companies is so predictable that I'm perpetually disappointed in my fellow human beings for ever buying this equipment.
There are a lot of people in positions of power whos paychecks rely on them not understanding things.
People want surveillance options. One of the highest/most obvious features required, unsurprisingly, is the ability to see your cameras on your smart phone -- which generally means you need a Smartphone App + a centralised server/system connecting the different ends. The alternative being that end users would likely need static IP addresses / Dynamic DNS setups to have a Smartphone app point "directly" to their exposed CCTV ports -- which I don't imagine regular consumers are keen on, likely why basically no such options seem to exist in the retail space (afaik - if there are widely used brands i dont know about, by all means clue me in).
Options that are fully local/closed/under user control, are almost impossible to find. This isn't so much a consumer-specific problem, from my perspective, at this point -- there aren't enough options for consumers to choose differently. It's sorta like how you're generally 'stuck' with US-tethered Smartphones. It's not so much a 'choice' that consumers get to make, as it is that these big businesses have effective monopolies and consumers are stuck.
What you described as impossible to find is how basically every security DVR system has worked for decades. I have two Lorex branded boxes at work and a Night Owl one at home, and neither of them require anyone's "cloud."
They're remotely accessible via your browser or a smartphone app although, yes, you do need to know your public facing IP address and poke the appropriate hole in your firewall for it.
Sacrificing what you want is the option.
A city near me has installed a device that tracks vehicles based on their tpms (Tire Pressure Monitoring System) sensors.
All cars after 2008 in the US have TPMS. Inside the tire, integrated with the vale stem, are little pressure sensors with a radio that broadcasts on the 315Mhz band. Each one uses a slightly different frequency so that your vehicle can tell which of the four tires is low.
So each vehicle in the US made after 2008 has four unique radio signals being broadcast from it, and now there are police departments with equipment that can track those signals, and can assign each car a signature based on the frequencies the sensors are broadcasting on.
That's alarming, but how much can these really vary? I'd be surprised if a lot of vehicles weren't the same.
Well, from my knowledge, the person you replied to is inaccurate. All tires will transmit at the same frequency. But every X seconds, when each tire transmits its data, it transmits an ID unique to its transmitter with it.
Every X seconds is pretty generous. My Subaru only seems to poll the sensors every few minutes, and only when the wheel speed is above 35 MPH or so, at least via what I've observed with my diagnostic tool. The sensors are battery powered and I suspect the low refresh rate is a deliberate gambit to conserve battery life.
You are correct on the ID point, though. They can contain up to 16 hexidecimal digits as far as I've seen, and while there doesn't seem to be any mechanism for truly enforcing uniqueness the chances of an ID collision are so low that you may as well consider it impossible. Some aftermarket sensors can be wirelessly reprogrammed with an arbitrary ID, though, which may be of marginal utility for the truly paranoid. (My diagnostic tool can do this, too. The intended use case is cloning the ID from an OEM sensor for a car whose TPMS relearn procedure is more trouble than it's worth.)
Regardless of your vehicle's polling frequency, most sensors can be woken up any time by a specific radio pulse, which my diagnostic tool can also do, and the range is surprisingly long. Just my car's own BMS where the receiver is (above the rear left wheel well) can pick up the sensors in my snow tire rims even when said rims are sitting in their storage rack inside my garage, about three car lengths away.
If my memory serves well, it is configurable. I say X seconds because it can be 5, 10, 30, but of course also 60, 120... This is my programmer brain talking :)
Thanks for the comment though. Much more complete than mine.
can't believe i'm quoting a transformers fanfic but here we are...
but if there's also cameras everywhere then every time a negative match comes out then it just triggers the cameras to pick out those cars. best bet would be collectively agreeing to use one set of specific id for everyone, not a randomized id and thus unique id's
They vary by enough, and have unique identifiers. And there are four of them per car, which makes it easier to build a profile for each car. This car has these four identifiers, this other car has these four, etc. Couple that with info from license plate cameras and you can track a car without seeing it's plate.
Yeah, I was actually thinking about acquiring one myself. I want to dissect it, hook it up to some monitoring equipment/ software, see what I can learn about it… functionality, vulnerability, anything. But I’m also worried about the potential I accidentally show up on a video feed stored somewhere remote. I’ve been checking eBay for them, but honestly… there are several right by my home. We’ll see what happens, in time.
I'd recommend caution. No idea if these things have a built in GPS, but I wouldn't be surprised considering how easy/cheap it is for electronics hobbyists to add GPS functionality to their projects. Take it home and fire it up and you may potentially be telling the gestapo right where you live.
Agreed. To do properly, you would probably want a verified screen room / faraday cage room. What they use for professional EMC testing. Might be able to jerry rig one I guess, but you'd want to test it for leaks if personal safety is on the line.
Thank you for saying "jerry rig" and not "jury rig". I
looselose my shit everytime I "hear it".Why would you get upset at jury rig? It's the original term and older than jerry rig.
I always thought "jury-rig" was a nautical term that fell out of use centuries ago and has only reappeared because some people who heard the phrase "jerry-rigged" and were not familiar with the word "jerry" thought they must have said "jury". Meh, wouldn't be the first time I didn't know what I was talking about.
They’ve already been analyzed and their security is atrocious. It’s ancient android nonsense. It’s theoretically possible to break into the wirelessly, that’s how bad these are.
The whole thing is about grabbing as much data as fast as thy can. There’s damn near nothing keeping it restricted or secure. Might as well be an open IP cam on the internet.
You most definatly shouldent make a cell phone app that you can put in front of the camera that just cycles through random plates and includes copies of conststution. I wonder if you can do 10 per second. 36000 per hour all day long.
https://www.d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y.com/
Nice catch, defiantly kinda (almost) works here too... 😤
Don't be rediculous.
I vandalized my own Ring cameras. It didn't feel right to resell them just so they can spy on me from someone else's front porch.
Awsome just like in europe and the UK.... nice
Where in Europe does a private company do this?
GDPR explicitly outlaws it.
Powerfull hand held lasers can damage cameras, by pointing the laser at the lens.
Careful with reflections though!
Gotta use the right protective glasses for whatever powerful laser pointer you got. Powerful ones can fuck up your eyes even off of reflected surfaces.
Yep and don't forget people, those stray reflections may not only be hitting you. Be aware of your surroundings.
Also, be sure to check that the sky is clear if you need to aim up.
Good.
Is there a common quadcopter on the market capable of carrying a paintball gun or something else that can splatter lenses?
Another, lower tech option that gets the job done.
With a radio control drone you, your face and your smart phone can be a quarter mile away. Plus, have you been in aerial combat? I haven't. Yet.
Good. We need to teach these pigs a lesson
The fun part is that these cameras are not owned, operated or property of your local jurisdiction. They are hardware/software as a service. IANAL, but I think Flock would have to sue you.
I have not personally de-flocked anything, but my local area doesn't have any that aren't tied to a business parking lot.
If some show up, I can't imagine a 5 minute walk with a hat, face mask and a can of spraypaint wouldn't be sufficient to disable one without risk. Might need a stool.
The flock cameras local to me only face one direction, which makes it a little easier. Still better mask up.
Every time I see one I get curious about the solar panel. Wonder how much non-nazi stuff it could run?
The shitty part is it's your tax dollars you're smashing, but you'd think they'd get the hint and just give up on it.
Heartwarming.
Anyone know of a good form letter / well written petition to request an operator such as an hoa remove a flock camera before resorting tk this?
Lol. HOAs are on a strict boot-based diet. Any well-reasoned argument will just make them install MORE of them.
Also: I really want to introduce the neologism caligavore. Can we all make that a thing?
If you go this route, you'll be suspect #1 if anyone else ever takes more aggressive defensive measures against the cameras.
Would a pellet gun be powerful enough to damage the lens from a distance?
The answer is almost certainly, but the followup question is how much pellet gun?
How about a nice coat of paint or a nice coat of rhino liner.
Most of them in my area are about 25 feet / 8 meters up in the air.
Gonna take some dedication and planning and a gas powered cut off saw.
Some of them certainly are. You can also get air rifles with built in "moderators" (i.e. suppressors) that are surprisingly quiet. Precharged pneumatic air rifles can be very powerful and also extremely accurate. I have a relatively cheap Hatsan that can, provided I'm using pellets that it likes, repeatably put pellets through the same hole in my target from as far away as I can get from it in my yard (probably about 20 yards) and do so about 30 times in succession before I have to pump it back up again. Its built in moderator makes it quiet enough at the muzzle that the sound of the hammer hitting the gas valve is actually louder than the report from firing.
Watch out: Researching this type of thing may send you tumbling down the rabbit hole of big bore air rifles and entice you to spend a lot of money. Don't say I didn't warn you...
Oh man. Silent rifle that can damage those cameras from 20 yards. Wow.
Hm... Does anyone know if the glass it uses is tough like gorilla glass?
Big bore pcp air guns - for those who like things that go fwump.
This is 'muricha you can use 9mm \s
Fun fact. Air carbines, with a scope, can be very precise at short-dish range. Essentially a low powered .22, and fairly silent.
You should be careful to make sure you don't hit glass, as it may shatter.
I wonder why in most jurisdictions there is no licensing needed?
Hell yeah brother
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Oh, Great news!
There it is a small glimpse of hope
This seems to be a valid self-defence tactic. Grinder, large bumper with a push bar, what ever it takes to drop the device. Truck Bros can back up to the pole and push. They are designed to break away after all
Yeah, give them a nice clear picture of your license plate as it tumbles down...broadcast right to their servers
We had a guy here who stole a plate of a cop car and drove through a speed enforcement camera to the tune of $6000 worth of fines to the cop car. Not saying you should do anything like that but you have to respect his hustle
If only there were some way to temporarily cover up the license plate.
https://youtu.be/HasaQvHCv4w
This is fantastic news
They give zero fucks about you doing that. Sue them instead. And recycle that shit.
Great. Next hand tRump