Thank u for getting the reference but I really want to know. Is this some new acceptable form of blackface? Does he slather putty on himself? Is it a mask?
Blackface implies caricature. This isn't attempting to be African American.
His visual media has quite a bit of this transhumanist stuff showing people made out of different materials, Hate or Glory shows a maniac who gets cast into gold for pleasure.
Considering he was working with Lady Gaga, who is also known for these extreme runway looks, I would say it was quite appropriate.
I'm glad you provided a serious answer, because I thought the bottom picture was just a joke and not a reference to an actual person or thing that had happened.
listen, it's 20256, you got to have a gimmick if you actually want to make it big in anything remotely "mainstream". you think zoomers have the attention span to just watch someone in a suit sing?
True, although in many of the comics I read in my youth (mostly 1980s) Kurt was depicted as a very dark blue to the point that they made significant amounts of him look black.
I'm in my fifties, but I'm still hip to what's groovy. I know the name of the big artists. Uh ... Wet Ass Pussy. The uh, those monitor head brothers ... Around the World. Um ... Billy Eyelash. The uh ... the K-Pops!
Gesaffelstein is hardly a pop culture figure, though; I don't think many gen-z kids know him. But he's an absolute icon of the 2010s dark techno scene.
The Conspiracy singles were legendary. My Conspiracy Pt. 1 record has a More Cowbell joke on it, which I love. Weird record though, it's 33 1/3 on one side and 45 on the other. And it doesn't say that anywhere on the record, so it took me years before realizing I was listening to a slowed down Hatred. I kinda love the slowed down version, funny how that happens :P
I was like who's this guy and opened up his songs. The track Opr is in Cyberpunk 2077 and I love it so I guess I'm a Gesundheit fan now. His mask also reminds me of Lizzy Wizzy, which is cool.
Playing or talking about Cyberpunk 2077 is a sin against our transgender lord and saviour Jesus Christ. He and Eve don't deserve the way CDPR commercialises trans bodies.
woah, i watched most of the thing before i realized the birds are bobbing out of time with the music, a bit faster, if they didn't switch the frames are realign they'd be completely out of phase several times.
Yeah the first time I can remember hearing a celebrity's name and not knowing who they were, I was six. Another kid on the playground was telling Me about Michael Jackson and I hadn't heard of him before. Kids these days.
This is on purpose. Kids can't like the same things as their parents. They have to look for things their parents are against to feel rebellious and independent. For my generation it was nu metal. My mother was used to nice, elegant men wearing suits and considered any artist with esthetics rougher then Julio Iglesias as 'not nice'. So we had Korn, Slipknot, Marilyn Manson and other weirdos. We had violence and gore to shock our parents and can't be shocked with that so kids today have overly 'erotic' artists like Cardy B. 'Look ma, I'm listening to an ex stripper. You don't like that, right?'. Musically our artists were too aggressive for our parents and kids today have rap which for me sounds simply boring. And that's fine, that's by design. If my generation was into those artists kids wouldn't like them. Of course the biggest artists are the ones that manage to span generations like Taylor Swift but that's for non-rebellious part of society that just likes things they already know.
My kid went in the musical theater direction, which I was cool with. You have to put up with the "Look at me! Look at me!" energy from multiple kids at once, but they're good kids, with lots of confidence, once they are away from the bullies and assholes. And they tend to be really funny in a smart way.
We can't bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. I didn't have any white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
Holy shit. I had no idea who this was either. Then, like 5 seconds ago I open Spotify and in my search for eldritch horror music I say “hey why does that name seem familiar?” and then remember this post.
The song is pretty mid (and, while slightly eerie, it is not eldritch horror playlist worthy imo), but it’s just wild that it just showed up right after I saw his name for the first time in this post.
This is the fastest frequency illusion I think I’ve ever experienced.
I love music, I've been a life long musician, I have a degree in music history, and I worked for the largest record company in America for years, and I still play music every day. I know music.
But I watch the Grammys, and I have no idea who many of these people are, and when I hear their music, I wonder how they got to that level with such bland, boring music. Even the ones I recognize are awful. Sabrina Carpenter is cute as a button, and jumps around in her underwear a lot, which is a plus, because her music is unlistenable in an elevator/grocery store background music kind of way.
Where does anyone even hear this stuff? Why do they like it?
No wonder classic rock is getting so popular. It might be vintage, but it's still great music, and if you've never heard it before, it might as well be brand new.
I listened to his stuff today in the car because of this post. He has like 2 bangers and a lot of good beats that get overused and super repetitive. It's on the edge of boring most of the time for me.
It's because the only way to become a famous musician anymore is nepotism. You have to be born into a wealthy well connected family so you can get record contracts and actually have the time to hone your craft.
What you're seeing are industry plants; the hobby of trust fund kids.
it could be worse, he's at least worked with a lot of people i do know of
Mike Lévy (born 24 June 1985), known professionally as Gesaffelstein (German: [ɡəˈzafl̩ʃtaɪn]), is a French music programmer, DJ, songwriter and producer from Lyon. Often called the "Dark Prince of Techno",[1][2] he has worked alongside artists such as Lady Gaga, the Weeknd, Daft Punk, Kanye West, A$AP Rocky, Electric Youth, Haim, Miss Kittin, the Hacker, Jean-Michel Jarre, Lil Nas X, Charli XCX, Pharrell Williams and Chuck Ellis.
... And the celebrities you did know about get old and die, or worse, become awful bigots, making you wonder if they were always awful bigots (spoiler: they were). Anyway, I don't think I've ever cared about celebrities beyond thinking 'Huh, so that person exists'. I'm more interested in artists, philosophers and — the good ones being a combination of those two traits — comedians.
I saw him at a 3-day festival, which was expensive but there were dozens of performers. No idea how much a ticket price for a show of just him would be. He doesn't seem to tour often. When I saw him I was pretty sure he was a techno wizard from another dimension but I was very high.
Me sitting here thinking i can relate and don't know Gaffelstein. Looking at the videos in the chat. Turns out he is in the dark techno list i was listening to just a few minutes ago and I liked his stuff for years.
I encountered this just today! I'd never heard of Bad Bunny, and if my partner wasn't interested in sportsball, that likely would have remained unchanged.
Who else should push artistic expression if not artists. People need to try shit out to make this world more that just a dreary existence. His mask is fascinating and people are talking about it and that's ok.
This might be the only appropriate time to ask why is he black?
Thank u for getting the reference but I really want to know. Is this some new acceptable form of blackface? Does he slather putty on himself? Is it a mask?
Blackface implies caricature. This isn't attempting to be African American.
His visual media has quite a bit of this transhumanist stuff showing people made out of different materials, Hate or Glory shows a maniac who gets cast into gold for pleasure.
Considering he was working with Lady Gaga, who is also known for these extreme runway looks, I would say it was quite appropriate.
I'm glad you provided a serious answer, because I thought the bottom picture was just a joke and not a reference to an actual person or thing that had happened.
He wears a mask at his shows
is this a new thing? he has the famous (?) smoking drop gif (from a viol live)
I have no idea, ive just seen him live once. Afaik hes always done the mask thing
listen, it's 202
56, you got to have a gimmick if you actually want to make it big in anything remotely "mainstream". you think zoomers have the attention span to just watch someone in a suit sing?That's Nightcrawler from the X-Men. Be kind to Kurt - his childhood was a real circus!
He's black, not blue, so Sunspot or Obsidian maybe.
True, although in many of the comics I read in my youth (mostly 1980s) Kurt was depicted as a very dark blue to the point that they made significant amounts of him look black.
One could assume they're slathered in oil to protest the fossil industry, but that would be an assumption.
He's going as one of the creepy guys from Expedition 33.
Viele Dank
Yes, many dank!
If you’re curious, this actually comes from the word Gesamtkunstwerk
I'm in my fifties, but I'm still hip to what's groovy. I know the name of the big artists. Uh ... Wet Ass Pussy. The uh, those monitor head brothers ... Around the World. Um ... Billy Eyelash. The uh ... the K-Pops!
Don't forget Justin the Beaver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibbkmS_tvVQ&t=95
Daft Punk died 5 years ago
Gesaffelstein is hardly a pop culture figure, though; I don't think many gen-z kids know him. But he's an absolute icon of the 2010s dark techno scene.
The Conspiracy singles were legendary. My Conspiracy Pt. 1 record has a More Cowbell joke on it, which I love. Weird record though, it's 33 1/3 on one side and 45 on the other. And it doesn't say that anywhere on the record, so it took me years before realizing I was listening to a slowed down Hatred. I kinda love the slowed down version, funny how that happens :P
Daycore?
Day Man!
Gesaffelstein goes hard, I agree.
He’s been around for a while now so they must be pretty old or weren’t into the dance music craze of the 2010’s
They are also in gta5 soulwax fm
So say we all.
There was a dance music craze in the 2010s?!? I thought everyone was listening to Fleshgod Apocalypse!
No, everybody was listening to Rhapsody of Fire (formerly Rhapsody)
Mid 30 is pretty old?
If you feel old. Otherwise probably the latter.
Hey, now, I remember Party Rock! That was the only dance song of the 2010's, right?
Thats me since like... ever? I never really cared about the whole celebrities spiel
You might just be a millennial.
Know the signs.
Even when I knew who the person was, I never memorized names anyway...
As a Gessafelstein fan I am so surprised anyone knows who he is, hell I barely know who he is
I was like who's this guy and opened up his songs. The track Opr is in Cyberpunk 2077 and I love it so I guess I'm a Gesundheit fan now. His mask also reminds me of Lizzy Wizzy, which is cool.
Playing or talking about Cyberpunk 2077 is a sin against our transgender lord and saviour Jesus Christ. He and Eve don't deserve the way CDPR commercialises trans bodies.
Wat
https://medium.com/doublejump/the-road-to-cyberpunk-2077-was-a-transphobic-mess-a62c94d9463a
ITT old people shaking their fist at the sky
I miss the good old days of non-political music like Rage Against the Machine
The top comment on this thread is frying me. Literally the most stereotypical "kids these days" comment I've ever read.
Idk if I'd call Gesaffelstein a celebrity. Also Gesaffelstein is fucking awsome? Do people not know Gesaffelstein? Serious. If you don't know now you know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRSijEW_cDM&list=RDoRSijEW_cDM&start_radio=1
You're welcome.
I heard of Sir Ulrich von Liechtenstein! /s
A cropped version of this video was my introduction to Gesaffelstein.
woah, i watched most of the thing before i realized the birds are bobbing out of time with the music, a bit faster, if they didn't switch the frames are realign they'd be completely out of phase several times.
Lol
Definitely one of the most impactful music videos I've seen, this is why I know who Gesaffelstein is
Agreed, its pretty jarring.
No clue who this is. I thought you'd comment was a joke, but no idea.
Yeah the first time I can remember hearing a celebrity's name and not knowing who they were, I was six. Another kid on the playground was telling Me about Michael Jackson and I hadn't heard of him before. Kids these days.
I know celebrities! Like, uh... K-Smog, and Zoosha...
I don't want anything to do with K-Smog ever since the whole Batboy thing.
Batboy had it coming with the way he trashed Babbadoon. And I also think his contribution to Mog-Mash is overrated.
I still can't believe they were flipping grunts...
Zoosha sounds like when someone's saying that something went way over your head.
I saw there's someone called BBNO$, or something(?) and I don't have the foggiest clue how to pronounce it.
Baby No Money
No is Bibinos, and I refuse to pronounce it any other way
BeeBee nose
Baby No Money makes clubby meme music, more prominent in the last 4 years or so. If you’re not on that side of the music scene that’s understandable.
I call them bibnos
don’t know for sure, but my guess is “Baby No Money”
Looks more like something you'd find on a license plate.
This is on purpose. Kids can't like the same things as their parents. They have to look for things their parents are against to feel rebellious and independent. For my generation it was nu metal. My mother was used to nice, elegant men wearing suits and considered any artist with esthetics rougher then Julio Iglesias as 'not nice'. So we had Korn, Slipknot, Marilyn Manson and other weirdos. We had violence and gore to shock our parents and can't be shocked with that so kids today have overly 'erotic' artists like Cardy B. 'Look ma, I'm listening to an ex stripper. You don't like that, right?'. Musically our artists were too aggressive for our parents and kids today have rap which for me sounds simply boring. And that's fine, that's by design. If my generation was into those artists kids wouldn't like them. Of course the biggest artists are the ones that manage to span generations like Taylor Swift but that's for non-rebellious part of society that just likes things they already know.
My kid went in the musical theater direction, which I was cool with. You have to put up with the "Look at me! Look at me!" energy from multiple kids at once, but they're good kids, with lots of confidence, once they are away from the bullies and assholes. And they tend to be really funny in a smart way.
I love theater kids.
I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me. It’ll happen to you!
sometimes it is what it is not…
We can't bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. I didn't have any white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
Lmao I showed that to my grandpa once and he couldn’t stop laughing 😂
I don't find it weird and scary, I just think it's lame when they try so hard to be noticed and/or relevant.
https://youtu.be/5DlTexEXxLQ
Holy shit. I had no idea who this was either. Then, like 5 seconds ago I open Spotify and in my search for eldritch horror music I say “hey why does that name seem familiar?” and then remember this post.
The song is pretty mid (and, while slightly eerie, it is not eldritch horror playlist worthy imo), but it’s just wild that it just showed up right after I saw his name for the first time in this post.
This is the fastest frequency illusion I think I’ve ever experienced.
Wait. There are eldritch horror playlists?
This one is probably one of the better playlists I’ve found (though it’s called AMBIENT HORROR, not Eldritch Horror)
Idk about that but there's horror synthwave...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_5unoZTpoQ
https://dancewiththedead.bandcamp.com/
Yeah he has way better music.
I love music, I've been a life long musician, I have a degree in music history, and I worked for the largest record company in America for years, and I still play music every day. I know music.
But I watch the Grammys, and I have no idea who many of these people are, and when I hear their music, I wonder how they got to that level with such bland, boring music. Even the ones I recognize are awful. Sabrina Carpenter is cute as a button, and jumps around in her underwear a lot, which is a plus, because her music is unlistenable in an elevator/grocery store background music kind of way.
Where does anyone even hear this stuff? Why do they like it?
No wonder classic rock is getting so popular. It might be vintage, but it's still great music, and if you've never heard it before, it might as well be brand new.
Have you listened to gesaffelstein? His music might not be for everyone but I definitely wouldn't call it bland or boring
I listened to his stuff today in the car because of this post. He has like 2 bangers and a lot of good beats that get overused and super repetitive. It's on the edge of boring most of the time for me.
https://youtu.be/oRSijEW_cDM
First I ever heard from them, artistic
It's because the only way to become a famous musician anymore is nepotism. You have to be born into a wealthy well connected family so you can get record contracts and actually have the time to hone your craft.
What you're seeing are industry plants; the hobby of trust fund kids.
it could be worse, he's at least worked with a lot of people i do know of
Outside of shows I watch or music I listen to, I have been this way for ages.
"Woah! Is that fucking blackface, dude?"
... And the celebrities you did know about get old and die, or worse, become awful bigots, making you wonder if they were always awful bigots (spoiler: they were). Anyway, I don't think I've ever cared about celebrities beyond thinking 'Huh, so that person exists'. I'm more interested in artists, philosophers and — the good ones being a combination of those two traits — comedians.
More than that you just don't care enough to go look them up.
If you get the chance to see him live, do it.
He looks like his tickets cost 100€ just to listen to his playlist
I saw him at a 3-day festival, which was expensive but there were dozens of performers. No idea how much a ticket price for a show of just him would be. He doesn't seem to tour often. When I saw him I was pretty sure he was a techno wizard from another dimension but I was very high.
i dont get it. Anyone please explain ?
I'm almost 40. Who the fucks this guy? I can't keep up with all these new kids and I'm old enough to just not give a rats ass.
Ah let me look it up, Gesaffelstein is a 40 year old music producer, dj, songwriter out of France. Very kid, so young, much wow!
Loved that guy in Twin Peaks: The Return!
I mean, this has been me my entire life, so idk what that means. But also I'm older now so I finally have the excuse!
I was never somewhere else, I don't know anything.
I think this video sums up what it's like watching these events for me.
https://youtu.be/rzMeA_QO1cA
Me sitting here thinking i can relate and don't know Gaffelstein. Looking at the videos in the chat. Turns out he is in the dark techno list i was listening to just a few minutes ago and I liked his stuff for years.
Curtains for Zoosha?
I’m more of a Flem’arty man myself.
I encountered this just today! I'd never heard of Bad Bunny, and if my partner wasn't interested in sportsball, that likely would have remained unchanged.
Is that his skin? A mask? I cant tell. This guy looks like he skinned a dark chocolate bar and made a human suit
A mask
I grew up blissfully ignorant of pop culture, but over the years I've absorbed enough to start recognizing names...
NFI who or what they are, but you recognize the name at least.
I've never not been there. I hate how people flock to celebrities... A few names have stuck, but that's it.
Long about the mid 90s for me
“Will someone please pay attention to me?! I’m wearing shit on my face!”
Who else should push artistic expression if not artists. People need to try shit out to make this world more that just a dreary existence. His mask is fascinating and people are talking about it and that's ok.