They can have the goaltenders if they also take their ted cruz back and keep him there. I feel like Canada did a drive-by trash dumping when Cruz showed up here.
waves of conservatives screaming about leaving the USA all over the internet and also getting on local news and shit
The unfortunate thing with voters is that those most able to emigrate don't vote Conservative; so all they can do is wonk at the press. When the lefties - typically better educated, as per the stats - want to emigrate, they actually have a chance.
California Washington Oregon and Hawaii are in too and I don’t want to debate about Hawaii because we need to band together for protection from this evil regime standing alone isn’t an option at this time
Have you ever been in Rural Washington or Oregon? How about Orange County California? There are some really fucked up MAGA Nazi fucks in those areas. Just because the cities are blue doesn't mean the rural parts aren't filled with dumbass, sister fucking, redneck cunts.
I’m in. I love hockey, politeness, and poutine. I can handle winter and cold. I already know the anthem in English and French, because hockey. And I hate the Leafs.
Nah, Wisconsin is too purple, sadly. This is the state, after all, that voted for the semi-sentient bucket of pig shit named F. Ron Johnson over Russ Feingold. Maybe Douglas County and blue parts of LaCrosse could sneak in there on the edge of Minnetoba undetected, though.
Out of all the States, Minnesota is one of the few I'd have almost zero objection to welcoming in. "Minnesota Nice" and "Canadian Polite" are closely related (but somewhat different).
Sadly, it will never happen. Adding a province requires re-opening the Constitution, and that's not going to happen. (If you're too young to remember, look up the Meech Lake and Charlottetown Accords)
Minnesota is already honorary Canadian and in my opinion, always has been.
Constitutions are made up by people and people can change them. All you need to do is either get everyone to agree, or make sure the people who don't agree can't stop you. Trump chose the latter, and has completely ignored and dismantled the US constitution. Whatever comes out the other side is going to be very, very different. I'm not saying that we should do that. But in the face of an existential threat like that, I don't think it's beyond reason that we could, in fact, get everyone to agree. It's amazing how staring mutual death and dissolution in the face can change the bitterest of rivalries into if not perfect alignment, at least a functional working relationship. Misery acquaints a man with strange bedfellows.
They'll get so little land that the trans-canada highway will probably suffice. I do not agree in rewarding the colonizers who genocidally settled North America from the Clovis people, but the current administration has arbitrarily decided on that, so that's the law -- it's theirs, apparently, and more importantly, it's not available for the people of Marlaina Smith to try and take with them.
Ultimately, they trade in their passports and get a plane ticket. That's the only deal they deserve.
I'd GLADLY accept a People Swap, thogh, where we take in wonderful Minnesotans in exchange for the stupidest of our demented flatlander contingent.
Honestly, Canada takes Minnesota and the great lake state, and the east and west coasts form their own countries might not be the worst outcome in 10 years or so.
I'm in Texas and have been looking into Manitoba, and can assure you based on their parties alone that it's "only right-wing in the context of Canada" 100%.
I have no idea what adding Minnesota would do though, it would completely change politics in the area even if it was its own province, never mind the US actually allowing that to happen.
Tbf the only reason the PCs support abortion is because of our Supreme Court struck down the laws that criminalized it.
In 1988, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled in R. v. Morgentaler that the existing law was unconstitutional, and struck down the 1969 Act. The ruling found that the 1969 abortion law violated a woman's right to "life, liberty and security of the person" guaranteed under Section 7 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms established in 1982.
Former PM Stephen Harper then put the last nail in the coffin when he announced the federal PCs would not challenge the ruling. This is because although abortion is considered legal here there is no law on the books that makes it so. If the PCs were to challenge the SCoC's ruling they would likely force the feds to make a law the enshrined abortion care as legal.
Oh don't worry, I'm under no delusion it's some sort of leftist utopia, it's just that Manitoba could be FAR worse.
Please keep fighting for those rights regardless of whatever laws are in place, don't just assume it's all settled.
Manitoba isn’t right wing…currently has a “socialialist” government. Maybe you mean Alberta?
I don’t think it’s logical to talk about our respective peoples in those terms…we have many Canadians that are right of many Americans…and many Americans that are left of many Canadians.
If we moved the border most normal people wouldn’t notice too much of a change…at the end of the day…but there’d be some irreconcilable sticking points like firearms.
There are way too many Americans that will not adapt to Canadian culture. Even on the left there is heavy "American exceptionalism" brainwashing and they love guns and Jesus way too much.
Remember that 1/3 of Americans wanted to do something other than Trump. 2/3rd wanted him or didn't give a shit enough to vote.
If Americans want a better life, they can move to Canada.
It’s hilarious seeing you put American liberals in the same sentence as guns and Jesus.
You know damn well the Trailer Park Boys was a documentary, and that there’s many a modern Canadian conservative more deserving of the ire.
“America is bad” is more a trope than reality — you highlight the most sensationalist atrocities while ignoring the inconceivably large land and goodwill dividend that so many actual Americans embody.
A Canadian was just arrested for sexually assaulting 100+ American girls. Things like that and oh idk, Canadian disappearing of folk, kidnapping of First Nation children, items like the Somali affair where your peace corps murdered a teenager etc — so much criticism is only deemed valid one-way, when it’s a more toiling nation-state scrounging its fist and shouting “you’re the baddie and Canada’s better…”
— the sweet irony of that being you’d claim American exceptionalism there as well.
If you haven’t watched this beauty, please do. It’s hilariously accurate on Minnesotan communication, and I believe many of our Canadian brethren will identify with it. Might even help our chances of getting in.
They're extremely right wing compared to the average Canadian. 47% of their vote went to Trump last election.
Ask them if they're ready to give up their second amendment rights to join Canada. Ask them what they think about socialized health care. Bet a lot of that eagerness to join will fade.
Even that would still be bringing in an extremely right-wing population.
The by-county results are here, the twin cities have 27% Trump support. The lowest in the state, sure, but that's still almost a third of the population that voted for Donald Trump.
You have to consider it's a two party system, though, and America First will always sell better to Americans. That 15% of Canada is well to the right of the average Trump voter.
I have no idea which way they'd vote as a Canadian city, but it wouldn't be the bluest (as in Conservative) place in the country.
Sorry, if we're getting this fiddly trying to explain how "they're not extreme extreme right, just extreme right!" it's not going to cut it.
Canada doesn't want Minnesota. Not even the "good bits." Americans are just going to have to sort this out for themselves. If individuals want to become Canadian there's an immigration process they can apply for, they don't get to just declare their chunk of America to be Canadian and bypass all that.
No. With the exception of Quebec there is no good legal way nor particularly good reason to split Canada up. We aint gonna weaken ourselves because of some regional 'vibes'. Provinces already tend to cooperate more within their region as it is.
You can do whatever you want down there but keep us out of it.
Imagine the national hockey team we'd have.
This is the Canadian plan to get their national goaltenders back on track
They can have the goaltenders if they also take their ted cruz back and keep him there. I feel like Canada did a drive-by trash dumping when Cruz showed up here.
No thank you. Send him out on an ice floe.
Just make sure Texas is a frozen wasteland to keep Cruz out of the USA.
Carney should send some kind of delegation down there. You know...nothing official. Just to "talk".
The unfortunate thing with voters is that those most able to emigrate don't vote Conservative; so all they can do is wonk at the press. When the lefties - typically better educated, as per the stats - want to emigrate, they actually have a chance.
I'd like to see stats too, obviously.
It would be funny if all the US emigrants ended up in Alberta and didn't wanted to be again in the US.
No shot this will actually happen, but I support it. Fuck this country
I find it hilarious that this made its way to CBC. Usually they don't stir the international politics pot like this.
California Washington Oregon and Hawaii are in too and I don’t want to debate about Hawaii because we need to band together for protection from this evil regime standing alone isn’t an option at this time
And canada getting a tropical paradise would be the cherry on top
There's been talks for a while of Turks and Caicos joining Canada
At that point it's blue America with a bit of Canada attached, though. At least by population.
Have you ever been in Rural Washington or Oregon? How about Orange County California? There are some really fucked up MAGA Nazi fucks in those areas. Just because the cities are blue doesn't mean the rural parts aren't filled with dumbass, sister fucking, redneck cunts.
They can leave and go to maga land and we invite the sane people from middle America to settle their property. They’ll leave one way or another
The RCMP are busy, but they'll get to that issue eventually. We will build secure housing for those people near our new Northern seaport.
I’m in. I love hockey, politeness, and poutine. I can handle winter and cold. I already know the anthem in English and French, because hockey. And I hate the Leafs.
You could have just said this part and I’d fully support you as a citizen.
If Minnesota joined…Quebec would probably use the opportunity separate because we’d have to open up the constitution.
Let me know if that's gonna happen so I can move to MN real quick
If Minnesota goes, I bet Wisconsin would be soon to follow after recent events.
There's be some rivalry between Wisconsin and Québec regarding who makes the best cheese curds.
If Québec would be open to making poutine with deep-fried cheese curds, it could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
With both fried cheese and fried potatoes you could call it Poutine deux frite.
I've been to Quebec. They'll poutine ANYTHING. There are so many variations on the theme, nobody would bat an eye at that.
I think there's room for both.
Nah, Wisconsin is too purple, sadly. This is the state, after all, that voted for the semi-sentient bucket of pig shit named F. Ron Johnson over Russ Feingold. Maybe Douglas County and blue parts of LaCrosse could sneak in there on the edge of Minnetoba undetected, though.
Scott Walker was a real piece of shit too if I recall correctly.
I don't think Wisconsin is as purple as it initially appears. It's just that the Republicans have managed to get a real stranglehold on that state.
Out of all the States, Minnesota is one of the few I'd have almost zero objection to welcoming in. "Minnesota Nice" and "Canadian Polite" are closely related (but somewhat different).
Sadly, it will never happen. Adding a province requires re-opening the Constitution, and that's not going to happen. (If you're too young to remember, look up the Meech Lake and Charlottetown Accords)
Minnesota is already honorary Canadian and in my opinion, always has been.
Constitutions are made up by people and people can change them. All you need to do is either get everyone to agree, or make sure the people who don't agree can't stop you. Trump chose the latter, and has completely ignored and dismantled the US constitution. Whatever comes out the other side is going to be very, very different. I'm not saying that we should do that. But in the face of an existential threat like that, I don't think it's beyond reason that we could, in fact, get everyone to agree. It's amazing how staring mutual death and dissolution in the face can change the bitterest of rivalries into if not perfect alignment, at least a functional working relationship. Misery acquaints a man with strange bedfellows.
I have a trade offer for Canada. America gets Alberta, Canada gets New England, Mid-Atlantic, Pacific, and Puerto Rico.
Canada will take California as well
That’s part of the Pacific.
I should have been more spacific.
I think we'd need a laneway across Alberta so B.C. isn't cut off. Maybe encompassing the oil fields?
They'll get so little land that the trans-canada highway will probably suffice. I do not agree in rewarding the colonizers who genocidally settled North America from the Clovis people, but the current administration has arbitrarily decided on that, so that's the law -- it's theirs, apparently, and more importantly, it's not available for the people of Marlaina Smith to try and take with them.
Ultimately, they trade in their passports and get a plane ticket. That's the only deal they deserve.
I'd GLADLY accept a People Swap, thogh, where we take in wonderful Minnesotans in exchange for the stupidest of our demented flatlander contingent.
I love the ambiguity of being flat earth believers or people living on flat land. great work.
Honestly, Canada takes Minnesota and the great lake state, and the east and west coasts form their own countries might not be the worst outcome in 10 years or so.
Out of the fire, into the frying pan?
My first thought. Would their politics shift right or are Manitoba and the PC only right-wing in the context of Canada?
Minnesota has about 4x the population of Manitoba, by the way.
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The most left wing of the US is still right of anything in Canada.
Minnesota voted 47% for Trump last election. It would be the most right-wing province in Canada if it joined. No thanks.
I did not know that Minnesota was that populated.
I mean, it's not. Unless you live in Manitoba.
Hah, or the rest of Western Canada. At 5.8 million it has more people than either British Columbia or Alberta. Although it is close.
I'm in Texas and have been looking into Manitoba, and can assure you based on their parties alone that it's "only right-wing in the context of Canada" 100%.
I have no idea what adding Minnesota would do though, it would completely change politics in the area even if it was its own province, never mind the US actually allowing that to happen.
Well, they support universal healthcare and abortion. The Manitoba PC is kind of a mix.
Tbf the only reason the PCs support abortion is because of our Supreme Court struck down the laws that criminalized it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Canada
Former PM Stephen Harper then put the last nail in the coffin when he announced the federal PCs would not challenge the ruling. This is because although abortion is considered legal here there is no law on the books that makes it so. If the PCs were to challenge the SCoC's ruling they would likely force the feds to make a law the enshrined abortion care as legal.
Oh don't worry, I'm under no delusion it's some sort of leftist utopia, it's just that Manitoba could be FAR worse. Please keep fighting for those rights regardless of whatever laws are in place, don't just assume it's all settled.
Hmm. Manitoba is run by Wab Kinew/the NDP…socialists.
Manitoba isn’t right wing…currently has a “socialialist” government. Maybe you mean Alberta?
I don’t think it’s logical to talk about our respective peoples in those terms…we have many Canadians that are right of many Americans…and many Americans that are left of many Canadians.
If we moved the border most normal people wouldn’t notice too much of a change…at the end of the day…but there’d be some irreconcilable sticking points like firearms.
In the purely hypothetical situation where Minnesota joined Canada, it would most likely become its own province and not be fused with Manitoba.
100% Fuck No!
There are way too many Americans that will not adapt to Canadian culture. Even on the left there is heavy "American exceptionalism" brainwashing and they love guns and Jesus way too much.
Remember that 1/3 of Americans wanted to do something other than Trump. 2/3rd wanted him or didn't give a shit enough to vote.
If Americans want a better life, they can move to Canada.
Deport them to America lol
It’s hilarious seeing you put American liberals in the same sentence as guns and Jesus.
You know damn well the Trailer Park Boys was a documentary, and that there’s many a modern Canadian conservative more deserving of the ire.
“America is bad” is more a trope than reality — you highlight the most sensationalist atrocities while ignoring the inconceivably large land and goodwill dividend that so many actual Americans embody.
A Canadian was just arrested for sexually assaulting 100+ American girls. Things like that and oh idk, Canadian disappearing of folk, kidnapping of First Nation children, items like the Somali affair where your peace corps murdered a teenager etc — so much criticism is only deemed valid one-way, when it’s a more toiling nation-state scrounging its fist and shouting “you’re the baddie and Canada’s better…”
— the sweet irony of that being you’d claim American exceptionalism there as well.
Ok. Thanks for playing.
Thank you for further confirming my comment.
Putin wouldnt mind some US states fragmenting and joining canada so maybe he'll allow trump to allow it. It'd cause more carnage in American politics.
Please take Maine too!
If you haven’t watched this beauty, please do. It’s hilariously accurate on Minnesotan communication, and I believe many of our Canadian brethren will identify with it. Might even help our chances of getting in.
https://youtu.be/oiSzwoJr4-0
Thanks, PBS!
That's some clever stuff
Trade for Alberta?
They should sort their own problems out, not try to get us to do it for them.
Besides, we don't want them. Too many Americans.
Minnesotans are Canadian Lite though. They share similar values and accents.
the twin cities doesn't have a 'chinatown' or a 'little italy'--they have little canada
They're extremely right wing compared to the average Canadian. 47% of their vote went to Trump last election.
Ask them if they're ready to give up their second amendment rights to join Canada. Ask them what they think about socialized health care. Bet a lot of that eagerness to join will fade.
Oh yeah, it's kind of a purple state, isn't it?
Like everywhere else it's going to heavily differ in major cities vs. outside, but just letting the twin cities in wasn't the question.
Even that would still be bringing in an extremely right-wing population.
The by-county results are here, the twin cities have 27% Trump support. The lowest in the state, sure, but that's still almost a third of the population that voted for Donald Trump.
That's twice the Canadian national average from the same time period. Those two counties considered in isolation are still redder than the reddest Canadian province.
You have to consider it's a two party system, though, and America First will always sell better to Americans. That 15% of Canada is well to the right of the average Trump voter.
I have no idea which way they'd vote as a Canadian city, but it wouldn't be the bluest (as in Conservative) place in the country.
Sorry, if we're getting this fiddly trying to explain how "they're not extreme extreme right, just extreme right!" it's not going to cut it.
Canada doesn't want Minnesota. Not even the "good bits." Americans are just going to have to sort this out for themselves. If individuals want to become Canadian there's an immigration process they can apply for, they don't get to just declare their chunk of America to be Canadian and bypass all that.
I mean, you definitely don't speak for all of us, there, although you've worded it that way.
Anyway, the real obstacle is that they legally can't leave the US.
This is old, but hits the mark perfectly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxgpMLSK_I8
We should really be both breaking up into regions/countries that make sense:
No. With the exception of Quebec there is no good legal way nor particularly good reason to split Canada up. We aint gonna weaken ourselves because of some regional 'vibes'. Provinces already tend to cooperate more within their region as it is.
You can do whatever you want down there but keep us out of it.
Oh, I agree.
A lot of things just make more sense north to south or regionally.
I’m Canadian BTW.
Why do Canadians have to change? We aren't the ones who suck.
CT resident here. I've seen trailer park boys. You're never going to convince me to join the maritimes. Get oat of my trailer.
I bet you make some pretty fucked scalloped potatoes, bud.
Oot.
There’s no trailers in CT?
How about, NO!
Canada is Canada. We might be a bit different in the Maritime than in BC, but we are all fucking Canadian.
Fuck off with your break up Canada bullshit.