It's a bit shifty though, the packages are all over the place and you need to actually look for and vet package vendors instead of just trusting one for-profit company to handle it all and not enshittify.
I get what Canonical was going for with snaps but wow did they ever ruin Ubuntu's reputation. It used to be the clear choice for anyone who wanted a generic Linux where you don't have to configure everything yourself. Sure some people didn't like Unity but the core distro still worked well and was stable. With snaps, package management has become more complex than other distros while decreasing performance if memory limited (and who isn't nowadays). The number of times I've had something not work in the "stable" snap package is far too many, and it's pretty much always fixed by installing the same package with apt.
I get the reasoning for sandboxing applications, but they needed to wait until it was more stable to make the default. At this rate I doubt we're ever going to get a truly mainstream desktop Linux distro rivaling macos and Windows...
In my opinion, Linux Mint has filled this gap. If anyone asks its a good recommendation to ensure they don't have to jump through hoops to get a stable system out of the gate. Essentially the stability of debian and usability of Ubuntu without snap
100%. It's the goto starter distro for good reason. Ux is familiar, and it works ootb.
They've also got the LMDE, which is mint based on Debian rather than Ubuntu. Haven't tried it personally, but I've heard good things from people who are determined not to touch anything Ubuntu adjacent for whatever reason, whilst still providing an ootb environment that is stable and ux friendly.
Ubuntu is Debian based anyway, so I'd imagine parts of Ubuntu have been pulled out to bridge the gap between Debian and mint, but given mint are anti snap; that's something that definitely wouldn't be copied over to LMDE (and like you pointed out, is disabled in standard mint anyway).
I liked unity when they were trying to do interesting changes. I especially liked the attempt at making apps work with the menu at the top of the screen instead of the top of the window (Mac OS style).
When they gave up on that, it became pointless with nothing useful to add.
What were they going for with snaps? I'm really not trying to be snarky. I genuinely don't understand why my favorite OS that has become more and more stable and usable since I first started using it, has now switched to this crap. I now need to reconfigure snap profiles to make normal usage possible? Wtf!
Snaps bundle dependencies and sandbox applications. The dependencies aspect is what matters more to me, but apparently there's also security benefits if you were to try to install a malicious program.
You can remove snapd, doing so also removes a number of built in apps. But at that point you may start questioning why you're not just using Debian stable and add the stuff you want. Both of these options pretty much defeat the point of what Ubuntu was.
Huh, apparently Lemmy tries to turn that into a Lemmy link (and fails)? Both Voyager and web appear to turn it into some variant of instance.tld/nyarchlinux.moe
It's because the meme format comes from Japan. Red is a lucky color, and S is the highest grade you can get there. It's similar to how they associate white with funerals, so brides wear red for luck instead.
It's an automatic downvote for not including NixOS, despite having other niche distributions on the list (what even is the one at C tier?). Also, Windows? That is not even closely related to the Unix family of operating systems, let alone a Linux distribution.
nope, windows 11 is my favorit linux distro :)
WSL be like
The ".nl" is for "never learned", right?
Every day I learn a new word from you intelligent fucks
Look up where the word comes from if you want to be unreasonably angry.
Oh, I'm so angry about... a reference to Gulliver's Travels?
I was thinking that, then I saw Hannah Montana in S, so it can't be little-endian
I think they man left to right.
What’s the red Naruto swirl one?
It's a spinoff of Ubuntu called Debian
/s
I heard they replaced snaps with their own package format.
It's a bit shifty though, the packages are all over the place and you need to actually look for and vet package vendors instead of just trusting one for-profit company to handle it all and not enshittify.
Did you know that Ubuntu actually started as a Hannah Montana Linux spinoff?
That's why the icon is spinning 😎
Not sure if trolling or genuinely curious, but it's Debian.
Debian? But I barely know ian!
Debian these nuts xd gottem
::: spoiler sudo apt install
sudo apt install deez nuts -y # haha gotte:::It's where the name comes from, yes. Ian and his then girlfriend Deborah.
I knew neither.
Uzumaki Ubunto
Dreamcast
No UwUntu, 0/10
This tier list looking quite sus
No sign of TempleOS? Gotta be fake!
TempleOS has its own, sacred tier that mustn't be listed with the profane
They forgot to set it to Wumbo
I get what Canonical was going for with snaps but wow did they ever ruin Ubuntu's reputation. It used to be the clear choice for anyone who wanted a generic Linux where you don't have to configure everything yourself. Sure some people didn't like Unity but the core distro still worked well and was stable. With snaps, package management has become more complex than other distros while decreasing performance if memory limited (and who isn't nowadays). The number of times I've had something not work in the "stable" snap package is far too many, and it's pretty much always fixed by installing the same package with apt.
I get the reasoning for sandboxing applications, but they needed to wait until it was more stable to make the default. At this rate I doubt we're ever going to get a truly mainstream desktop Linux distro rivaling macos and Windows...
In my opinion, Linux Mint has filled this gap. If anyone asks its a good recommendation to ensure they don't have to jump through hoops to get a stable system out of the gate. Essentially the stability of debian and usability of Ubuntu without snap
100%. It's the goto starter distro for good reason. Ux is familiar, and it works ootb.
They've also got the LMDE, which is mint based on Debian rather than Ubuntu. Haven't tried it personally, but I've heard good things from people who are determined not to touch anything Ubuntu adjacent for whatever reason, whilst still providing an ootb environment that is stable and ux friendly.
Ubuntu is Debian based anyway, so I'd imagine parts of Ubuntu have been pulled out to bridge the gap between Debian and mint, but given mint are anti snap; that's something that definitely wouldn't be copied over to LMDE (and like you pointed out, is disabled in standard mint anyway).
Yeah it also created yet another distribution method which is annoying. We have wayy to many in Linux
XKCD 927: Standards
Reminds me to make a new distro that has the one True package manager
Call it OTP just to make the acronym more ambiguous
Winget?
I liked Unity, but Ubuntu has always been a crashy mess.
I liked unity when they were trying to do interesting changes. I especially liked the attempt at making apps work with the menu at the top of the screen instead of the top of the window (Mac OS style).
When they gave up on that, it became pointless with nothing useful to add.
What were they going for with snaps? I'm really not trying to be snarky. I genuinely don't understand why my favorite OS that has become more and more stable and usable since I first started using it, has now switched to this crap. I now need to reconfigure snap profiles to make normal usage possible? Wtf!
I need to switch.
Snaps bundle dependencies and sandbox applications. The dependencies aspect is what matters more to me, but apparently there's also security benefits if you were to try to install a malicious program.
You can remove snapd, doing so also removes a number of built in apps. But at that point you may start questioning why you're not just using Debian stable and add the stuff you want. Both of these options pretty much defeat the point of what Ubuntu was.
Good new is that there are many different options outside of snap and Ubuntu
If you ever have a wound, I will spit in it.
be careful they could like it
OP forgot to put the legends: S - Sucks Ass A - Ass B - Barely C - Ckinda mid D - Dope F - For Real For Real
Oh so we're fighting today.
No were not ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐
nah snaps aren't THAT good, they deserve A tier
i love snaps :)
So why didn't you put them in the S tier
h
You want to put them in hell?
https://www.snapsvisor.eu/dryckesvisor/snapsvisa/419
Snaps should put them in F tier.
Where TempleOS?
It went to heaven
How have I not heard of AmongOS?
It's pretty good apart from the OS side
100% accurate. I can tell you put a lot of research into it. Thank you for your work.
Mint is D for Delicious 😋
The tierlist of every person going to an "opensource conference".
No mention of Microsoft Bob, BillindaOS11 in S tier. Obvious anti-MSBob slander, 0/10 ragebait
Where suse?
In S tier bc alphabet
From shit to fantastic.
even on this joke list:
NixOS Erasure!
nix18
Gentooooooooooooooo!!1!
null and void
You forgot Firefox.
And Symbian
no endeavouros, no upvote
Its above S tier. OP just did a bad job cropping
nah its Z tier fr
Trolling along.
Needs more Nyarch linux
Huh, apparently Lemmy tries to turn that into a Lemmy link (and fails)? Both Voyager and web appear to turn it into some variant of instance.tld/nyarchlinux.moe
The actual link should be like this: Nyarch
Unless that breaks too? IDK what happened here.
Weird, i have no idea either
HML4Life
The S stands for "Shit"?
Why is the best in red and worst in green? I never understood this rating scheme's color choices.
It's because the meme format comes from Japan. Red is a lucky color, and S is the highest grade you can get there. It's similar to how they associate white with funerals, so brides wear red for luck instead.
That's an awesome TIL! Thank you!
idk, im used to it now. but when tierlists first got popular i thought S was the worst
It’s not suppose to be. Typically S Tier would be considered the highest ranking, the colours are certainly throwing it off.
Nice
I agree
I see you are not serious about the list. If you were you'd have red star Linux and justin Bieber Linux up there with Hannah Montana Linux and amogOS
I give this tier list an S for not including the only distro that deserves its own tier below F:
smh Bazzite doesn't even get on the list
F-tier to pay respect
Gentoo is so based it transcends this list
Is today opposite day?
No
Would be better if specifically Windows 11 and 8.1 were at top of S tier above the other versions
+Windows Me. Still the GOAT
I barely remember WinMe...
As I installed over it with 98SE on a laptop. Didn't even hear the screaming.
Heresy! AmogOS should be S+ tier.
What?! You can run whole Linux apps on Windows
Maybe it's VMed in HML.
There is a
C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\folder 🤷♂️It's an open-sores OS with unix-light mechanics
It's an automatic downvote for not including NixOS, despite having other niche distributions on the list (what even is the one at C tier?). Also, Windows? That is not even closely related to the Unix family of operating systems, let alone a Linux distribution.
whoosh
I'd put Nix in the L tier since it males me think of linguine
There is Windows Subsystem for Linux.