Spyke
lemmy.world

35? I feel like that's a low ball... though the sad fact is if it happened shit would probably get a lot worse real fast.

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ByteJunkreply
lemmy.world

That's about how I picture America - 35% now love Iran, other 35% are outraged out of their minds and think that Trump should nuke Iran, and the rest think iRan is a fitness app and instantly blocked that source of ads.

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And the remaining % will shrug and not be very upset if they succeed. If they notice at all.

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realitistareply
lemmus.org

Yeah thinking rationally we are much better off just winning the mid terms and making him a lame duck.

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lemmy.world

Trump won't be a lame duck though, he doesn't care about Congressional approval or the Constitution.

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True, it does depend on Congress doing its job. Which is only somewhat more likely with a Democrat majority.

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lemmy.world

I don't normally like seeing violence / gore. It makes me queezy and upset. I don't click on NSFL links ever.

But I would watch this. If the current potus was assassinated by someone (especially a foreign contract for hire), and it was captured on video, I would watch it on repeat, at various speeds, and I would relish in his pain as he capitulates to the cold clutch of death's grip.

I would save the video and revisit it from time to time as a reminder that sometimes people do get what they deserve.

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With such a video I'd definitely be recreating the NSFW version of Kevin Costner's famous scene in the movie JFK every night.

"Back and to the theft. Back and too the left... Oh that's nice.... Back and too the left... oooooh yeah"

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lemmy.ca

I don't want Trump to die. I think a fitting end to him would be jail time, then a stroke rendering his body crippled but his mind as fit as it can be.

Him sitting alone, with no good way to communicate, in a prison of his own mind, in prison getting smacked around by other inmates makes me happy.

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lemmy.world

He's doing more damage to the republican party that probably anyone else could.

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It feels like there are about 100 million of us in the states scratching our necks like Dave Chappelle and saying "y'all still got any of that 'regime change' we been handing out?"

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lemmy.world

Honestly, I'm not entirely convinced that the bullet missed at all.

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Zierreply
fedia.io

Well he was brain dead before the attempt, so it's hard to tell if they missed or not.

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It’s really disconcerting that our president can’t even pass a fucking Turing test.

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hectorreply
lemmy.today

There was no bullet. A shot somewhere, his ss detail pull him down and scrape his ear on something, the ss agents atart blasting and hit the people, they cover it uo.

Not 100 pc on this like I am kirk being Israel's superfan faction doing it as the official story is impossible.

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Someone above and behind him got shot. You can see it in the videos that it was with the fist shot.

I’m saying he wasn’t the target.

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Iranian Religious figures already declared a fatwa against Trump declaring him an enemy of the religion and posting a bounty that's already like 40M dollars for his execution.

You could probably donate to that bounty, although I am sure if you are a US citizen it runs afoul of some domestic laws.

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mlg
lemmy.world

People forgetting even if Trump will be or had been assassinated, Vance would just take his place and continue the train. Besides, Iran has been claiming they can do this since forever with nothing to show for it.

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jaybonereply
lemmy.zip

The hope is Vance doesn’t have the charisma to keep the cult together.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Neither does Trump. I don't know where the argument that he has some kind of Magic Secret Fascism Sauce comes from. Republicans fucking love idiots and have been rabidly supporting them for decades now, and they'll blindly follow Vance just like they're blindly following Trump. It could be a sentient mop with a bucket hat, they literally do not care. Trump didn't win the election, project 2025 did.

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I don’t know where the argument that he has some kind of Magic Secret Fascism Sauce comes from.

Charisma isn't a universal thing, it is about appealing to a large chunk of the population but not the population as a while. In this case he has been the face for the fascist MAGA movement for like a decade now with people who constantly ignore how his policies harm them directly and still support him. He has charisma when it comes to hateful morons who want to hear a fat old white dude spout the racist shit in their heads without any kind of moral compass that would lead to being embarrassed.

They won't follow Vance because Vance doesn't have the same belligerent and arrogant delivery despite saying the same hateful stuff because it is clear Vance is a try hard spineless wanna be grifter and not someone who has been an entitled shit their entire lives because they were born into wealth. Vance isn't the strongman that the Republican party has been stoked to follow.

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Gsus4reply
mander.xyz

He doesn't need to, he's already elected and he's been awarded god powers to do whatever he wants...by the SCROTUS.

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Corkyskogreply
sh.itjust.works

And then all the politicians do the calculus that he doesn't have the mojo to back primary candidates and then they just impeach him.

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Fine, that's a good point, I hope so. But like the other comment says: trump is just a way for them to wash their guilt away, it could be anyone and they'll still oblige and then you'll find out that they weren't being forced by anyone all along.

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bthestreply
lemmy.world

Remember the bloodbath of reprisal killings that MAGA was promising to deliver for Saint Charley? What ever happened with that?

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To be a martyr you typically have to believe in something bigger than yourself. Trump can't do that. He's too self serving and everyone around him knows it because they wanna be just like him. He could get killed and people might try to make him a martyr, but he only pushes division and hatred and self enrichment, good luck getting anyone aside from the proud boys to rally behind that. They tried to do it with Charlie Kirk too and that amounted to fuck all.

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"chilling"...

I'm tired of the media calling normal human rights heartwarming and news like this "chilling"

An 80 old woman being able to go on retiremen or a child being able to pay for prosthetic limbs because of charity is not heartwarming. These are the real chilling facts.

An action against a President who does not respect international law should be heartwarming although it's drastic

And yeah.. I might be on a list now and not able to enter the USA... 🤷

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And yeah… I might be on a list now and not able to enter the USA… 🤷

Might consider that a plus these days...

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Zahille7reply
lemmy.world

I think South Park was onto something here

(Disclaimer/explanation, cause apparently it matters: it's a link to a YouTube clip from the episode of South Park "Put It Down," where President Garritrump keeps tweeting that Tweek, the 4th grade gay school kid with ridiculously high anxiety, will be the one to absolutely wreck North Korea)

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jaybonereply
lemmy.zip

I don’t think Tweet is gay, and neither is Craig. But there’s an episode where the girls are drawing pictures of them together in a gay relationship. Maybe that’s what the commentor is thinking about?

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It is canon that Tweak and Craig are gay and in a relationship. The episode you are referring to is when it started, but they have been together since.

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lemmy.world

I'm gonna say something unpopular: canonising your worst enemies as martyrs isn't gonna end well for anyone

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village604reply
adultswim.fan

I really, really hope he dies of natural causes on live TV.

If he's assassinated things are going to get much worse.

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TaeKwonDohreply
lemmy.world

Wouldn't it be nice to see Trump go down like a sack of potatoes mid self-aggrandizing rant at a press conference or something, and the bonk of his head off the podium to be sampled into a thousand EDM tracks from that moment until the next election?

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lemmy.ca

I think him falling asleep during some televised brief, at a table with a large group, of people would be better.

Hammer in that point he does nothing of use and would have been literally sitting there dead for 20-minutes before anyone noticed.

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Or even better in '16 when Cunty McCuntface could have been squashed like the cockroach he is.

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As if the rabid mob wouldn't immediately create some conspiracy in that case...

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I dunno, they've already done the spin up for if Trump dies even from natural causes they'll claim he was assassinated. No matter what happens things are going to get much worse.

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Can the reaper please hurry already? The guy is already standing with one foot in the grave, his mind is gone and his body is falling to pieces.

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lemmy.ca

Chilling? Do you mean arousing?

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What about the governments of Iran and the USA start a deathmatch, one versus one, and then they all explode?

I'll chill the champaign!

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I can only fathom this was the plan from the beginning. Why else would the Americans elect such a bunch of unlikable dicks?

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Instead of a bullet make it an ICBM and we are golden! One that could take vance and hegseth out as well.?

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tal
lemmy.today

Frankly, if I were about to initiate a conflict with the US, I'd rather have Trump running the country, but you do you.

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Buffaloxreply
lemmy.world

I think the idea is if the next president doesn't play ball, he will be taken out too.
That also seems to have been Trumps entire plan for Venezuela.

It's a stupid plan, but I don't think the Iranian regime is much smarter than the Trump administration.

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hectorreply
lemmy.today

Venezuela was an agreement with their military, to be the de facto rulers. There is a plan, filled in their names on the cold war coup template.

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Buffaloxreply
lemmy.world

Seems the plan for Venezuela went down the toilet when the new president refused to play ball.

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The military of venezuela, the generals are in charge, not their vice president is my point.

And the vp decrying the us is hardly refusing to play ball. What else are they going to say? They will sign over concessions under the watch of the military, there will be resistance, the military will help crush it, and operated paramilitaries for what they don't want to do directly, like run through villages in areas where they've had attacks on oil infrastructure and run death squads on them, funded with cia backed illegal drug and gun sales.

This is not just random speculation, it's informed by what we spent the entire cold war doing. They filled in the blanks on the template.

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Democrats may sue for peace instead of engaging in conflict. Iran has no interest in invading US, they just want their hands off Iran

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This will probably be effective on Trump because he's an idiot. Everyone else knows it if you want someone dead you don't tell them about it first.

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I'd prefer some death note shit go down but I'll take anything at this point

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floofloofreply
lemmy.ca

Unfortunately, we're going to be feeling less keen to let Americans in while Trump is actively threatening our country.

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I mean its always ironic when that happens.

Russian dissidents want to leave the war machine and they are banned from visiting European countries to defect.

And the US deported a russian dissident back to russia.

And now the US banned 75 countries from coming to the US, including Iranians who want to flee the regime...

So I guess fuck those people?

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lemmy.ca

It's difficult to know who's a dissident and who's a spy or terrorist.

Iran just threatened to kill the leader of another country. Yeah fuck Trump and all that, but you aren't going to open the doors to anyone from a country that's issuing threats, especially a country that's complicit in a lot of terrorist acts.

Russia is engaged in a sabotage campaign in Europe, so the reasons for blocking Russians from Europe is similar.

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I mean I undestand the fear of enemy agents... but still...

As a Chinese Immigrant to the US, I honestly fear that if a USA-PRC war break out, I'd immediately get treated as a potential "spy", so this is why I really hate the idea of "If you are from that country = Potential Enemy", cuz I'm very much opposed to the CCP.

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How do you figure? Those that idolize Trump already hate muslims. The greatest change I'd imagine is not necessarily 'more' islamophobia but more overt hate crimes arising out of it.

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emotionally: very satisfying

strategically: not so much

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It’s BS cause real killers don’t call in threats

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Agreeing on anything with those nutcases... Wouldn't expect that to be a case. And it is. Yes, please!

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sh.itjust.works

Please don't make him a martyr. The maga death cult would go absolutely insane and be pushed straight into psychosis. Charlie Kirk was a mini example of that.

We need whatever all those MRIs were for to speed up

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The cunts waiting in the wings are SALIVATING at the thought of Trump getting shot.

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Bullshit, someone on tv said something inflammatory? We have blowhards yelling to assassinate their leaders all the time, including govenment officials.

To say nothing of Israel openly advocating final solutions. Amazing how arrogant one can become when you have child fucking blackmail on a critical mass of rulers of the superpower, and specifically against the president.

Unless it is the ayatolla this is more israeli aligned neo fascist cassus belli, cause for war. Once again showing no respect for your intelligence and or character with this transparent yellow journalism.

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It will be funny if they manage to provoke him into putting boots on the ground.

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Lumisalreply
lemmy.world

And I'd like to imagine people aren't as stupid and naive as you.

Yet here we are.

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MBechreply
feddit.dk

I too would love to live in a fantasy utopia, unfortunately we live in the real world, where the only solution to fascism is murder.

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I guess you are right about that. Imperialistic fascists only deserve one thing.

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lemmy.world

Political violence shouldn't be encouraged regardless of how dispicable the representative. Eventually we as a society will need to evolve past this sort of barbarism to solve our problems.

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Gsus4reply
mander.xyz

This is not domestic political violence. This is one leader of a country threatening another and the other threatening back.

In other words: let the two of them fight and end up both dying.

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qualiareply
lemmy.world

I'm just hopeful one day we begin to question whether might genuinely makes right.

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Everyone who doesnt live in russia, murica and maybe China already knows that that is the path to hell.

In other words, it is not surprising that the largest powers believe in "big fucks small", but disparaging international law like I see all the time online because "big" doesn't follow it is something that only benefits the "big" players and reduces everyone else into mere vassals.

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