Black Panthers in Philly...listen up
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Black Americans are the only demographic that massively voted against the pedonald. They are responsible of almost everything americans takes pride in. In music, they invented blues, rock, jazz, techo, hip-hop and much more. In sports, they are the top athletes in many disciplines. In politics, you may not be a fan of Obama's politics overall, but he was by far the least crazy president USA had over the past 40 years. All of this while being treated as sub-citizens.
Bro, the US was quite literally built on the backs of black people.
Country music too! Almost all bluegrass traces back to Mississippi John Hurt
Appalachian folk music, even. The sing-along traditions of Irish and Scottish settlers in the region melded with the Instrumentation of black music.
When runaway slaves would flee into the mountains, they brought their drums and banjos with them.
and we still sing those songs. and people who know what the fuck they're about sing them with the perspective of "i still remember that you are my neighbor and friend. our time of separation will not be forever"
Appalachia has always been a coalition of rejects just trying to survive. the daughters of the confederacy have corrupted many communities into misunderstanding their local history. but my homeland cannot be free until every Black person is free, regardless of where they are or where they're from.
True Rednecks, the kind that understand that the red bandana represents a coalition of Native Americans, Black people, and white working class folk, are the future of Appalachia. it's just a lot of people aren't knowing that yet.
Just to piggy back off of this, I want to recommend a really wonderful book called What You're Getting Wrong About Appalachia by Elizabeth Catte
It's an introduction to the region, its history and culture, and its highly extractive relationship to the rest of the United States.
There's also a whole chapter dedicated to ripping JD Vance's Hillbilly Elegy to shreds, which is incredibly satisfying
talking about my feelings on James Donald Bowman would leave me in violation of my instance rules
For techno, who you must be referring to is "The Belleville Three"; but they actually got their inspiration from a German band called "Kraftwerk" that was making techno music.
I was indeed thinking of the Detroit school (this city is something else when it comes to music). I'm actually a huge Kraftwerk fan (Trans-Europe Express man, what an album) but although they're definitely pioneers and inspiration of almost every electronic music genre, I wouldn't qualify them as techno artists. They're more a synth-pop / kraut/experimental band, with a lot a vocals and usually slower tempo than proper techno. Same goes with house music, I always thought it was a German thing, but it's actually another Black American subgenre born in Chicago.
That said, if we really want to go back to the origin of electronic music and instruments, we would be in Germany (sound synthesis) and France (sampling) in the 50s and 60s with the work the elctroacoustic / musique concrete composers like Stockhausen and Pierre Henry (check out Messe pour le Temps Présent, absolut classic). I am totally passionate by all this and actually teach in music history and sound creation at a College in Montreal.
Then why did you credit black americans for techno?
Also, africans are generally better at sports, not just americans.
Least crazy... yeah i'll give you that one. Still a US president though.
Did you even read what I wrote?
So on a comment about the things black Americans have given us your first thought is "Kraftwerk, some white guys, actually invented techno." Which is factually untrue. Yes, Kraftwerk and other Kraut rock bands were an inspiration to all forms of electronic music but what they were doing was not at all techno.
Ah yes and here we have the inventor of the Moog synthesizer, Reginald Jackson
Obama's birth certificate was found in a pocket of his tan suit.
When the Black Panthers started protecting citizens in California back in the 60s and 70s, the Republicans all of a sudden got really on-board with gun restrictions. Funny how that works.
Gun control for thee, not for me
that is genuinely how gun control works here. our government makes sure white terrorists have as many guns as they want, but that the people they are terrorizing don't have the means to protect themselves
You want to correct the ideology of the pig.
I love all of this.
He said if you are going to legally arm yourself. I can get where you heard otherwise, though.
Yeah it was sped up apparently
Honestly I don't care how someone arms themselves. Legally or otherwise.
Hell, doesn't even have to be someone.
I would support the unions having a communally owned missile to scare CEO workarounds.
Fair but if you're going to be open carrying firearms, it's best that you acquire them legally or it's one more thing to worry about
Guess what law will be coming soon. You have three guess but most will get it in one.
More racist gun control?
Mandatory face tattoos and brandings to identify felons of color in public?
Visual identification of legality is tough to do. After that, everything is legal.
If you're a felon and someone who knows that notices you in public with a rifle it would be bad news bears for you.
Honestly at this point what's left to lose? The result is the same, just on a different timescale.
Edit: being a felon isn't the only way to illegally arm yourself.
I mean, I won't encourage people to break or not break the law. Yall do you. But Felon was the example I was speaking of. I'm sure there's others.
It's really not great advice, though. 5.56 is very accurate and for the average person would be a better choice than a semi auto shotgun.
when dealing with ice a semi auto shotgun has a useful purpose: knock em back without killing. but i will point out the man with the shotgun was bracketed by a man holding a 7.62 and a man carrying a 5.56. there's clearly more consideration and coordination going on here. you're absolutely right about what's best for the average person, who i presume is not yet a member of a community defense group, but once you're in a community defense group, take a listen to what the whole group needs more of.
I know nothing about guns. I do know that ICE has body armor.
Yeah but it's improperly worn most of the time. Most of them have basic ass gun range beginner shooting stances that expose their unprotected sides to who they're facing (You're supposed aim with your chest square with the target when wearing armor)
Even with billions of dollars on hand they're still too cheap to get ++size armor and carriers for their extra big boys. Some of them are wearing plates that are pushed out to a 45 degree angle by their freakishly large beer bellies LMFAO Enjoy those copper jackets that'll lodge in your cerebellum after severing your carotid arteries you worthless Nazi fuck.
Gotta get that spalling directed to their faces
Seriously? That feels counterintuitive. But my intuition is to always protect my nuts first. It makes sense though.
more reason to go 5.56 instead of shot or slugs
slugs pack a wallop. even if you can stop it from penetrating, you have to stop it from moving
see my other comment in this thread about slugs or shot as part of a communal collective presentation of face. ideally your crew has mostly 5.56 with one person with slugs. they all have their use, but you should be defaulting to 5.56
personally i lust after the .338 so the semi-auto shotty also speaks to me. i understand the practicality of having something that you can move, aim, and afford to shoot, but something about the big boom booms just draws me.
Aim for the mask.
Or go guerilla tactics and aim for the lower limbs.
Maybe the best gun to use, is the one you don't need to shoot?
Not in this timeline, it seems.
I see you have never CQB'ed before.
Ohhh yeah, now this is the radical leftist I want to see.
I'm not American, but as an outsider this is what I feel the second amendment was really for ✊
It literally specifies in our constitution that we have the second amendment to protect ourselves from our own tyrannical government. This type of thing is exactly what it's for.
The Declaration Of Independence has entered the chat.
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security
Jefferson: "This government will become corrupt and need to be overthrown as well, but hopefully it will hold up for, oh, 250 years or so."
They will come for their leadership just like they did in the 60's. I hope they are prepared.
RIP Chairman Hampton.
This is how civil war starts and how fascism will be defeated.
The way ICEtapo operates right now doesn't leave them much room for escalation, they're already cranked fascism up to eleven. They will come for everyone sooner or later unless stopped. There is still hope that it can be done legislatively, but I don't have a lot of faith in Americans anymore.
You can't actually believe that though? 11 would be ICE shooting protesters on sight. Not much room for escalation? What are you talking about?
Guy never heard of tanks and APC and thinks LRAD is something from computer games.
They already kind of doing almost that. The step above would be actual drive by shooting, and the final step is full on dystopia with torment nexus and all. There is room for escalation, sure, but once your government backed paramilitary group starts disregarding laws, there is not a lot of that room left
They don't need to with those pussies not even putting up a fight.
Embarrassing
This is fascism at an 8. You wanna see fascism at 11, ask anyone from South Africa what that really looks like. Do you know what a hippo is?
Once paramilitary organisation is given full permission to do whatever they want regardless of the law, that's kind of it, really. Do they throw people into hippo dens, throw them out of helicopters, put them into gas chambers, or just shoot in the face, are gruesome details for future historians and hopefuly-not-so-future-judges to study.
Faith in US sheep?
All they do is bleat.
The normal speed version definitely a lot better than the sped up version in the post, thanks for including that link.
I have ADHD and I found the sped up version easier to process than most videos. I'm glad we both get what's easy for us
Hell yeah brother
Can I join as a white man?
white panther party (catbox)
I mean, weed is cool. But fuck the weed over the purpose. We're there for a reason.
If that was around here, I might start attending again.
They have this on their website.
Where can I donate to this mans cause? I want buy that man more bullets and he should never have to buy drinks again.
I second this.
he might not drink.
It's a turn of phrase. They could buy them a cold sasparilla (spelling?) in that case!
Sarsaparilla in fact.
That’s a good ‘un
Why would you turn a phrase?
(Yes I'm being intentionally difficult, it's funny)
maybe they're writing from a smartphone and they need the phrase to be in portrait
This is exceptionally clever good on ya.
aw ta
All power to the mother fucking people!
Democracy is the government of the people for the people by the people. But the people are retarded.
Wow.. This is the first time I actually smiled from the news since 2025
Ay yo, I'm proud of my fellow Philadelphians ✊️
I'm kinda scared tho, so I'm just hiding, sorry... (I'm foreign-born)
Go Birds! Fuck Ice! Free Palistine! Dickhead!
Lots of angry white dudes in and around Philly though. They hate their city and the people in it.
Philly in the state known as Pennsyltucky, where historically, they had the biggest KKK organization in America.
Philly is extremely diverse, with black folk in all levels of politics. Police still wear crosses. But Philly also has a lot of punk and fuck you energy.
I hung out with a guy online from Philly for a couple years. He was blue collar, laid tile. Union. Brother was a police officer. Other brother was military stationed in Japan. Father also in the union.
He was edgy at first, but became a lot more willing to show his true colors. After a while, it became evident that while he would never admit to being MAGA, he would repeat MAGA talking points all the time. Eventually we got into it and stopped hanging out.
He only had bad things to say about POC and Philly. Talked about the fentanyl issue, would clench his teeth talking about POC, had a pistol and would go for it every time he saw someone suspicious on his home camera when it was just someone walking by or parking their car. Absolutely unhinged. His family reinforced his beliefs, and they were even more racist than he was.
Anyway, my anecdote is just to say that these blue collar guys from the burbs of major cities are dangerous, hateful, and often violent people. They blame minorities for everything wrong with the city.
They still say go birds tho, always common ground
There used to be something called the White Panthers. Thankfully, not a KKK branch; it was basically just the white faction of the Black Panthers.
We might need them even more: part of the reason most black communities have stayed silent is because even peacefully protesting (while black) is enough for racist America to see it as a riot and demand the National Guard.
They can join the Rainbow Coalition if it still exists.
Google the name Fred Hampton and you will learn a lot about what America is.
You are very welcome my fellow human. When you are done with Fred Hampton you can maybe look into Leonard Peltier or Mumia Abu Jamal.
RATM was very influential to me back in the 90's
FREE PELTIER AND MUMIA!
Zach de la Rocha: "Mumia, guan, be free"
Add to the pile:
Judas and the Black Messiah is a cracking film.
You can see why they were fucking terrified of him.
Joining with the rainbow means there will be every color of panther.
The pink panther is my idol.
If you stand me outside this time of year, i'm so white i'll turn pink :)
white panther party
✊
Thank you for sharing the file directly so I can share it around easily 🙏
They have this on their website.
The new logo's a lot nicer!
There's a more info button under that that just leads to the Privacy Policy text above.
It looks like they might have lost the domain? I know there was something there about a month ago.
That 1.3x playback speed is a disservice
Zoomers gotta go fast!
Black Panthers owe those lukewarm libs who did absolutely nothing for them ever nothing.
Sorry I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther party.
One thing about meeting the president is that you get as many Dr Peppers as you can drink. I must has had me about 16 Dr Peppers.
Now this is based
Holy shit. Beautiful to see. Hopeful.
I'm so happy to see them out. Pigs ain't gonna fuck with a crowd of dudes with automatic shotguns
"You dig," Yep and carry on Black Panthers.
Why does this guy kind of resemble Luigi Mangione?
Is this reality so broken that the simulation is starting to reuse assets?
20th century was the century of the moustache.
21st century is the century of the eyebrows.
(And that's plural, Brezhnev.)
Finally it's my time to shine!
Aw crap...
Much love to my ML comrades in the BPP. Will be interesting to see if the YLO, AIM, or other groups from the Rainbow Coalition experience a similar revival or are simply reincarnated in spiritual successor groups. Either way, now's the time.
Funny. This kind of counter protest suggestion usually gets downvoted on Lemmy. Good change.
Counter protest?
Opposition to counter protests
So... a protest.
No....? I guess you're dumb on purpose here. So i'll leave it here.
I didn't understand what you meant, but at least now I know either you're an asshole or you like saying things you don't understand.
Either way, definitely worth a block.
I can tell that you don't understand. Thats why i called you dumb on purpose, as i don't see how you could misunderstand.
You need guns at a protest to stifle the counter protestors that also have guns. There you go.
I know one thing that ICE doesn't: never fuck with anyone from Philadelphia. I learned that lesson long ago. They do not fuck around.
All I know they're known for is being racist
I imagine you heard about the MOVE bombing once and assumed most Philadelphia residents supported and still support it.
Look up a racial demographic survey for Philadelphia sometime.
That is indeed only your imagination, I hear people mention how racist they still are.
And that's a feat in a generally racist shithole.
The fact that there is more or less diversity in a place says nothing about how racist they are.
That is a ridiculous argument.
The former Philadelphia eagles stadium had a jail in it because fans would get so drunk and rowdy. They have to grease the light poles when the eagles win a super bowl to prevent people from climbing them. Eagles fans put batteries into snowballs and threw them at Santa during the Christmas parade. Don't ever fuck with anyone from Philly.
IDC about your silly gay rugby or their teams.
Bring them to any country that has real football ⚽ and let them fight hooligans.
They will get absolutely butchered.
americans have a big mouth but they suck at fighting
I wonder what ratio of protesters + guns is enough to deter ICE.
Like if there was only 1 person there with a semi automatic shotgun, how much more likely are they to attempt something illegal than if there was 20.
If that ratio could be figured out, then it'd be easier to coordinate and ensure enough armed people are everywhere.
Substance of the video aside, does anyone know this group's relationship with the actual historical Panthers? My understanding was that the original Panthers were dissolved at some point?
I don't think this calls their legitimacy/validity into question, I'm mostly just curious.
There are a number of modern panthers orgs that claim to represent a continuation of the historic panthers. Though they range from actual Maoist Communists to weird Black Israelite types
my understand is it never went away
SDS reformed about 20 years ago, so maybe we can do some real Rainbow Coalition again.
BPP staying based as fuck for half a century plus
Fuck yeah! More of this please!
Any other organizations doing this? I'll help.
Wakanda forever!
✊🏼
Everyone who has a gun and open carry laws should be coming to their protest visibly armed.
And stand in the front.
Mutually-assured destruction is the only path forward.
common W
Whole profile is gone now....ha!
You support pedophilia.
Ok so you accept pedophilia, gotcha.
Open your holes for daddy Trump
No, I don't think I will. What the fuck is this comeback bro 😂
Ahahahaha