Jensen Huang says relentless negativity around AI is hurting society and has "done a lot of damage"
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Man whose finances are reliant on scheme really wishes you'd all stop talking about downsides of scheme, more at 11
Leave him alone, he hasn't even crossed the $200,000,000,000 threshold. He's basically a poor. Can only afford one jacket :(
Gahds the news cycle is so ridiculous now. Forgot about this asshat.
Never forget this mother fucker
Stop linking to twitter. Jesus christ
Oof, he gets roasted thousandfold. On X! I had to scroll hundreds of responses down to find the first alt-right comment and I'm not even sure if that was a parody account.
BTW better to use farside.link: https://farside.link/https://x.com/rittenhouse2a/status/2009019649191768113
better to link to bsky https://bsky.app/profile/joncooper-us.bsky.social/post/3mcf4yhkzzs2j
And he looks like a member of LGBTQ+ now. Could also be the illegitimate child of Vance and Kirk
That little shit is from Lake County. I'm only pointing this out to remind anyone thinking a waterside photo is projecting status. In Lake County there is more water than land at a 2:1 ratio so this is a poor man's attempt to appear to be rich. You can't piss in a yard in Lake County without it landing in one of the many lakes.
Jensen Huang is hurting society and has "done a lot of damage"
It's stealing our water, poisoning our land, is helping erode trust in institutions and each other, hallucinates, gives bad advice and worse summaries, bothers our hearing, raises our electricity rates dramatically, all but ensures we won't meet our climate goals, offers us nothing of value, is something none of us wanted and most of us hate, is constantly being pushed down our throats, and is intended to allow the wealthy to access the benefits of the talented while preventing the talented from accessing the benefits of wealth.
AI is a cancer and must be destroyed.
Hey, you're harming thought leader Jensen's profits, how can you live with yourself?
And the shareholders ... think about the shareholders!
*bagholders
It does offer value. It can code up some simple functions that I would need to spend actual time to write. As an experienced coder, I know what to ask for to get decent results that save me time
I agree that for some coding things it's handy and saves time. It wrote me a WordPress plugin for an abandoned radio streaming plugin so I could get usable stats. It would have taken me a long time to write the SQL and php code by hand, for something I'll likely never do again.
It didn't get it entirely right first time though.
You're right, it doesn't always get it right the first time. But neither do I, so I'm not saving time doing it myself
No, Jensen, you got that backwards, GenAI itself is hurting society and has done a lot of damage, the active and well-deserved pushback against it ain't hurting anyone.
Your grift is what's killing the world, asshole.
Damn tootin.
Not enough negativity, we need
I say relentless Jensen Huang is hurting society and has “done a lot of damage.”
Counterpoint: fuck off
Respect is earned, not granted. You don't earn respect by telling people to glue pepperoni onto their pizza, or saying there are 5 R's in strawberry.
Says the guy who runs a 4,9 trillion dollar company mainly because of AI, what damage? WTF!
relentless negativity aroundAI is hurting society and has "done a lot of damage"it’s hurting profits!
The shorter the headline the better 👍
AI Kills Civilizations
Define damage. Damage to shareholders and C-suite executives or damage to the rest of the economy and environment?
Here is a clue. Jensen Huang is a billionaire.
Oh fuck off with that. Y’all are promoting the technology with the promise of replacing human jobs. What did you think the response would be?
That is not to mention building it by literally stealing the wealth of human thought and then being surprised that we’re mad you want to sell it back to us with brand new monthly fees. Fuck off with all of that.
All AI models should be required to be open sourced to compensate humanity for this theft of our labor and ideas.
They're taking care of that for you. Without ads, they don't have enough income to stay afloat. With ads, they can't compete with open source models.
Let me rewrite that: Man who makes trillions manufacturing Ai hardware, says "people expressing how shitty Ai is and how it makes life harder" is going to cause me to lose money.
Its hilarious how hard tech bros are panicking over underwhelming AI revenue after they bet the entire economy on it.
Hey guys, I think the guy who stands to make a mint on all this AI stuff has a point, we should be nicer to the plagiarism machine
I think he's more concerned about losing a mint, which is probably the more likely result.
Lol. Negativity around AI has done damage, but draining water and electricity in magnitude not seen before has not?
P-lease
Not to mention there is no answer to the elephant in the room... What happens to an economy where workers have been stripped of yet more jobs and all of manufacturing is in China?
Oh, sorry. Is it negative to talk about the needs of millions of people and not our thoughtful billionaire class?
Let's also not mention the potential data collection/spyware-esque potential. Noooo, that'd never happen. More negativity in my imagination. I should go get a prescription for that...
With you at every step.
Oh, and about that prescription. I know an old French prescription that would suit our needs just fine
Are there gangs of people following this guy around and berating him non-stop? because he deserves that
Soon we can do that with Tesla robots.
Look we've only got so many berating gangs to go around, they're very busy.
How, fuckass. How.
Also i don't think you are aware, but society is people.
"Won't somebody think of the CEOs?"
I would have a lot less negativity around AI if the mag 7 and all AI companies agreed to sign a contract to be nationalized once they have automated a significant amount of jobs, with their profits to be used for a national basic income. I would be much more positive in that case, Jensen. Give it some thought.
...but–but that would be COMMUNISM!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
/s
I mean, part of the role of science fiction is to try to look at the future as technology changes it. Not all of it is hard sci-fi, but I wouldn't across-the-board discount sci-fi. A lot of changes have been in sci-fi before reality.
The end of the world narrative pushers are actually the "AI safety" people that work at the big AI companies, and people like Huang himself that like to boost completely made up narratives like "the AI threatened us when we said we'd turn it off!" (Invariably if that happened it's because they... prompted it to...)
OMG11!1!!1!1 Its _sentient.
The disconnect between the corporate elite and society.
Exactly and the stock market is also completely divorced from the retail economy. When it comes crashing down, consumer/retail will be so poor that nothing will be able to bail them out.
Just buy a 5090 bro. Maybe two. Look at this leather jacket.
These guys project like crazy.
Read the article to see if he makes any valid point, couldn't find one.
When 90% of the messaging is all around the end of the world and the pessimism, and I think we're scaring people from making the investments in AI that makes it safer, more functional, more productive, and more useful to society," he said.
So, I was about to invest some money to make AI safer, to avert it's dangers, but now somebody warned me about those dangers, so now I am scared to make the investments to make it safer. That makes a lot of sense /s
Seems to me it's not investments into AI safety you're worried about, it's the investments into the potentially dangerous service you're worried about.
I mean the incestuous clusterfuck of a closed economy they're building between main players about it makes investing a stupid move at this point but yeah sure, blame the boogeymen
Fuck AI.
Jensen Huang can go fuck himself
Maybe if my entire team of 120 wasn't laid off to automatization I would be less sour. Ass.
The negativity aroundAI is hurting societyPlease stop being negative about AI, it hurts my company if you don't all love our shit!
Your feelings and opinions are affecting our bottom line. Obviously it's you that's the problem here.
I'm sorry, what's market research again? That sounds old-school and not involving AI.
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing a song of angry men?
It is the music of a people
Who will not be slaves again!
When the beating of your heart
Echoes the beating of the drums
There is a life about to start
When tomorrow comes!
for the average Joe (people outside of lemmy) it’s hard to be positive towards ai when it increases the price of their general purpose compute. it’s also difficult to be supportive of it when all it does is inaccurately plagiarize and threaten to take away peoples jobs (although we know it can’t really replace anyone as the tech isn’t reliable and needs constant attention)
i hate these CEOs with a passion
Maybe do less harm with it. Maybe less people actively dislike it then. Usefulness aside.
Why does he think anyone care what he thinks? Let's hear the opinions of someone who hasn't vested their entire company's interests into this thing. The utter gall! He's not interested in society one iota; only himself. Stop interviewing this arsehole!
It has not done enough damage if it is still promoted.
To whom?
The Nvidia PR team. They keep trying to spin more data centers and even more of the US GDP being gobbled up by slop generation as some kind of consumer win but nobody is buying it and their whining is starting to annoy Jensen.
SlopVidia
Yea, my next ideo cadd will ne a Radeon. If I can ever afford to upgrade my PC again. Fuck AI.
Clearly not enough damage has been done since Nvidia's stock price is still in the stratosphere.
... to our share holders.
And by "damage" we mean unrealized potential profits.
Jensen Huang? More like Jensen Slop.
This is toxic positivity...
If he wants to ease peoples minds of AI then he should be advocating to regulate it so we can know it's not being used in harmful ways. Regulation and transparency (to a degree).
Cry harder.
Jesus, someone replace Jensen with an AI already. The bots could generate much more nuanced and empathetic responses. /SARCASM
Is he one of those Harry Potter fanfiction weirdos?
Bloody muggle
Remember guys, Jensen Huang is suicidal. The murder allegations are fake. He suddenly gained a conscience one night and ended himself because of all he's done.
Oh look, man coming from a fascist refuge of yore happens to be a fascist and a sociopath, what are the odds huh?!
And there could be a lot more so keep it up?
There is no topic more botted than the AI discussion and I see Lemmy isn't immune.
It's clearly a critical article.
Subtitle: "Won't somebody think of the CEOs?"
It's also clearly not the only writing on the subject on the entire Internet.
Don't tell. Show.
Seems like a standard that isn't possible to meet. If there was a reliable way to detect bots we wouldn't be in this situation where bots dominate social media.
I can tell you that the bot tactic of promoting outrage and vitriol is well known and the topic of AI has some of the most toxic people participating. Always bringing insults, fallacy laden 'arguments' and downvote spamming.
That doesn't happen on other topics where people disagree, even in this community.
We know bots are a big problem on social media. We know the tactics that they use, they infiltrate both extremes and use those positions to sow division and anger and, in my experience, this is the topic that receives the most comments fitting that tactic.
Well, we're pissing off the right people.
Maybe if the majority agrees on something, you should pay attention instead of doubling down. We know this tech is to put us all broke and give your class of rich fucks the best life at our expense.
Eat the rich.
Wait until the bubble bursts to see how much damage.
good
Suck my dick, Jensen!
"to our stock price"
it's not doing any damage at all. look at the fucking goddamn tech industry right now. it's absolutely rampant. it's being adopted like crazy.
any company could use it well enough that they can pretend that they don't use it and then the problem is solved how about that
What's wrong with hurting artificial societies?
On a personal level, I like AI. I use it regularly as a tool to handle mundane tasks. I also have friends who use it successfully as an artistic tool. I’m aware that this platform tends to dislike that kind of usage, and that’s fine.
Bandwagon behavior is a serious issue on platforms like Reddit and Lemmy, and that comes with the territory.
However, the claim that this negativity has meaningfully harmed AI adoption is nonsensical. If this person genuinely believes that AI has been hurt, even slightly, by negative online discourse, then he is clearly out of touch with reality. All available data points indicate the opposite.
what mundane tasks do you find it useful for?
so far the only useful thing I've found (outside of being another search engine) is processing image to text, but I'm pretty sure it's just using existing OCR tools to do that (not sure, I haven't used it much because I only needed to do it once like a year ago)
I use it primarily as a text editor for grammar checking and for analyzing confusing or poorly structured text. I also use it as a search engine quite frequently. I can ask direct questions and receive the information I want, presented in a way that suits my needs. I have used it to help construct responses to inquiries from several companies I work with. It is particularly effective at generating corporate-style responses that appeal to middle management, which has been genuinely useful over the past couple of years. I no longer have to sit and overanalyze how to phrase emails. What used to take a significant amount of time and mental effort is now handled efficiently. In that regard, it has been extremely helpful.
I also use OCR on my phone every single day. It's really great for copying and pasting model and serial numbers and doing very quick basic searches. Although I find this to be more of a convenience than anything else.
Where AI features have failed specifically on my phone is the text-to-speech and the autocorrect for typing, especially on the Google keyboard it oftentimes tries to guess what the best words would be and it fails miserably most of the time.
At the end of the day it's just a tool and a tool is only as good as its user. I work in the repair industry and I utilize very expensive high quality tools and I also have some very very cheap ones because they have some unique use cases only they are suited for.
thanks for the detailed reply. the proof is in the end product - as long as it is used with an appropriate understanding of its output, anything can be useful.
obviously I can't say for sure how many AI emails I have gotten, but I can say that I've gotten some that are obviously AI where I skip over it because of that. it's just excessively wordy and if somebody couldn't have been bothered to be concise, I can't be bothered to read it - I very much ascribe to the belief that somebody should not have to put in extra effort because the person requesting something didn't. but if you have it working for you, then great. I do think that that is a good use case if it is dialed in — if it's got the right style and verbosity, it's much easier to just review something and tweak it than it is to write it all out from scratch.
I have found it helpful as a search engine when I don't know the exact terms that I need to be searching for, but that's about it. It's just the initial search, and then once I know where I'm going I can use regular means to get the rest, because it really breaks down once you start asking it very specific stuff in my experience (engineering stuff). but again, I haven't really needed to use it too many times.
One other time that I did find it helpful was when I didn't know a particular API function call, and I just could not figure it out from the documentation or what I knew of the API. it got me the function I needed (although did not at all understand how to actually use it lol, but that was fine because I just needed to get there and then use the documentation for the rest).
I have a demo for an AI tool soon that is supposed to automatically create engineered parts drawings. I am very skeptical, but we'll see how it goes. my expectation at this time is that it will only be good for very basic parts, not even moderate complexity, which means it's functionally useless for me. if it's turning out drawings at the quality level of a junior designer, that doesn't help me — I need those juniors to turn those out so they can improve and do the same on the moderate complexity stuff. if they don't have the opportunity on the simple stuff, then they won't improve to handle the more difficult stuff that the tool cannot. and those simple drawings can be churned out in a minute each, often, so the time savings are just not there on that type of part.
Indeed, I don’t use AI for anything complex. It can’t physically fix an appliance, aside from providing technical data. It can tell me the ohm range for a thermistor or the microfarad rating a capacitor should have. Surprisingly, it does this far more reliably than Google or other search engines. Ironically, AI is better at delivering accurate data in this domain precisely because traditional searches are increasingly cluttered with low-quality AI-generated content.
Butlerian Jihad When?
What "society" he is talking about? More like his social circle of techbros and fucking shill-bots on X.