Spyke
lemmy.world

So what I'm hearing is that this moron didn't learn his lesson about fucking around with vehicles after he got hurt just a few months ago.

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nah he does it on purpose to claim self defense when he does his premeditated murders.

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hectorreply
lemmy.today

You see, you are a fucking troll. Is this your alternate account from hexbear?

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You’re a fucking dumbass. People were posting that link across these stories as if that was the same person. I merely called it out that it wasn’t.

🤷‍♂️

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Tedeschereply
lemmy.world

Part of being a good comedian is understanding concepts like time, place, and audience. You clearly do not understand these things.

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She did that on purpose. Now he has a target on his back, and if someone attacks him, MAGA can claim outrage. Just seeding the yard, see what grows.

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Gates9reply
sh.itjust.works

It’s a mixed blessing to have such a brutal criminal regime staffed by complete morons and incompetent failures

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lemmy.today

I've been saying this from the beginning: they will eventually be undone by their own virtuosic incompetence. Nobody does more self-owns than MAGA. Eventually it will be fatal. A "Give'em enough rope, and they'll hang themselves" kind of thing.

They've got enough rope, and the Dump Apes are trying to figure out how to tie a noose, but they'll get there eventually.

The problem is the damage they'll do along the way, so we have to do everything we can to speed up their downfall.

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lemmy.world

I think she just helped the cause, inasmuch as she just stuck a very public foot in their retention and recruiting.

Those ICE goons aren't the sharpest, but they understand pack law very well. They travel in packs, they work in packs, they spend their off-hours in the same hotels, they support each other in packs.

So this administration has gone hellbent to get them all to this point in order to eventually be able to declare martial law, and now that they're here, committing open murder in the street, this stupid bitch just proved to them that she does not have their backs.

She literally just offered him up to mounting public rage right after he committed murder for her.

I'm pretty certain his pack, which is comprised of all his fellow heavily armed high-impulse low-self-control antisocial thugs, some of them LEOs like Ross, will not fail to take note. They may find her rush to dox enraging and act out in unexpected ways. It will be interesting to see how it shakes out in the long term.

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Some sources are saying Jonathan E Ross now, it's like they are intentionally giving misleads (not you guys, you're awesome!)

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feddit.nl

Let him feel unsafe for the rest of his natural born life.

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xtareply
lemmy.world

I'd rather he be prosecuted to the full extend of the law and spent the rest of his days in jail, like not being a menace to society anymore.

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Sorry to sound condescending, but the full faith on the law has already gone past in the US. Americans should prepare for a potential civil war.

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damn that'd be crazy if he could feel unsafe in the afterlife too

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lemmy.world

Mods removed it last time. Here it is. An actual picture of the guy from Facebook.

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Sure would be a shame if someone geolocated his house based on his social media image posts and published the address everywhere alongside the story about how he murdered a random lady (who was a natural born multi generational US citizen, though that part shouldn’t matter one bit).

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But it’s the only bright colorful garment men are allowed to wear :(

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Same ice agent that got dragged while trying to forcefully break into a vehicle before huh? Hmm 🤔 perhaps that should be taken into consideration when determining if he was justified in unloading multiple bullets in the head of a woman who had just dropped her child off at school.

Or, here's a novel fucking idea: Perhaps if this motherfucker could STOP BEING AN OCCUPYING TERRORIST AND TRAITOR TO THE UNITED STATES he wouldn't have to worry about getting run over while he's terrorizing people for a fucking dictator.

Vance defending this shit is like Gaddafi trying to claim the dudes he paid to ride around on horses whipping protestors during the Arab Spring, were simply innocent victims who murdered people in self defense because they had become "fearful" of being pulled off their fucking horses.

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dragged 50 yards

If I’m recalling that incident correctly, he wasn’t “dragged”. Someone drove away, he grabbed the handle and didn’t let go. “Dragged” implies the victim did not have any control in the matter.

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lemmy.ca

He zapped the driver with a taser after breaking through the car window of the back door and was surprised the victim was no longer in control of a vehicle in movement, from what I'm reading. The court papers claim he was breaking the window to open the door, but if he was able to use the taser in that way he must have been already wielding it. It wouldn't surprise me if what actually happened was that the moron used the taser and that it caused the driver to compulse and press on the accelerator. It's not like he isn't gun-ho.

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lando55reply
lemmy.zip

He zapped the driver with a taser after breaking through the car window

You have a source for this? I'm interested to know if this individual is just really unlucky or if his reckless abandon truly knocks things into twelfth gear.

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lemmy.ca

It's not that clear, the possibility is just what I pierced together from the facts mentioned in https://www.newsweek.com/jonathan-ross-ice-agent-shooting-minneapolis-minnesota-11332093

The article comes with the slant from the prosecutors, which seems to suggest he broke the window and then the driver started to accelerate, at which point during the struggle he used a taser that did strike the driver. However, if someone was struck by a taser I doubt they would be "weaving to shake him lose", they would be convulsing from the shock which would cause a similar effect, including possibly stepping on the accelerator. Considering how much they are lying about Renee Good, I'm not going to give the prosecution's slant much authority except for the core facts.

During the June 2025 operation, Ross got his arm stuck in the window of a vehicle as the driver tried to flee an immigration arrest. He was dragged roughly 100 yards down the street before breaking free. Prosecutors said Ross fired his Taser during the struggle, striking the driver, but the shock failed to stop the vehicle. Ross was taken to a hospital with a “significant cut” to his right arm that required 20 stitches and another wound on his left hand that needed 13 stitches.

The driver later claimed he did not know Ross was a federal agent. A jury rejected that argument last month, convicting him of assaulting a federal officer with a dangerous weapon. Prosecutors said the suspect accelerated after Ross broke a back window to unlock the door, dragging the agent for more than 100 yards while weaving to shake him loose. Ross eventually broke free but suffered severe injuries to his arms and hands. ...

  • "Ross broke a back window to unlock the door"
  • "Ross fired his Taser during the struggle, striking the driver"
  • "He was dragged roughly 100 yards down the street before breaking free."

Like I said, it wouldn’t surprise me if what actually happened was that the moron used the taser and that it caused the driver to compulse and press on the accelerator. That would cause the driver to start convulsing and, regardless of the prosecution's claims, that would cause a lot of the behavior they accuse the driver of. Normally, one might assume that they've already dismissed this possibility, but the US is not living in normal times and under a working system of law.

The court records are probably the best source if you want to dig at it.

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lemmy.ca

“Ross broke a back window to unlock the door” “Ross fired his Taser during the struggle, striking the driver” “He was dragged roughly 100 yards down the street before breaking free.”

None of that is in the videos.

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He tried to grab the handle and it slipped out of his hand because doors autolock. He was never dragged, and if he keeps claiming that, he should be referred to as a drag queen.

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AreaKodereply
lemmy.world

Violence is never the best option. But sometimes you get pushed far enough into a corner that it becomes the most likely.

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lemmy.world

One time the nazi leader even demonstrated that on himself! Probably won't be that lucky today. Though it would be nice.....

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lemmy.world

The only time you'd get Trump to put a gun in his mouth is if it was strapped to the crotch of a guy named Bubba.

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I don’t know (and I don’t want to know) if trump would ever even consider the art of cunnilingus. He seems the sort to want to be serviced as a god, not deign to care about the other party at all. The bubba thing would only be an initiation/hazing/forced blackmail event.

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samus12345reply
sh.itjust.works

Since violence is never the best option, what was the best option to deal with the Nazis in Germany that would have resulted in them being removed from power?

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lemmy.zip

I have a feeling mr. Ross may be a little afraid at the moment. As he should be.

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sopuli.xyz

Or it might kick off his own Rittenhouse celebrity tour. Conservatives are prone to hero worshipping this type

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lemmy.today

The notoriety of Rittenhouse and George Zimmerman has not been kind to them, and will only be a anchor as they age. It's not a good club to be in.

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sopuli.xyz

Really? I haven't kept up on them. How's old shit-for-brains doing? Zimmerman, I mean. I'm not as curious about the killsburry dough boy

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lemmy.today

Some domestic violence stuff, he tried selling some paintings but got shut down because he stole the designs, sold the murder gun, got banned from Twitter for revenge porn, tried to sue his victims family for $100 million, tried to sue Mayor Pete and Liz Warren, all dismissed immediately. He seems to have gone off the deep end. Hardly surprising.

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lemmy.zip

Maybe we can annoy him every second of his existence. Play that Island Boy song repeatedly at loud volumes whenever spotted in public

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startrek.website

Random thought just popped into my head for no reason I can think of: if you know someone's name, and the county they own property in, you can visit their county records (many even have publicly accessible websites) and find the exact plots of land tied to their name!

I managed to track down the former property owner of the place I live now to their new house in another state, since they intentionally hid a bunch of issues from the buyer before the sale that ended up costing nearly half the price of the house and the realtors decided to ignore me when I attempted to get in contact.

All I did was look up "[County I knew remembered they were moving to from overheard conversations during the buying process] county property records" and the rest was super straightforward.

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Well there are public records of him having a property loan somewhere, but I don't know if it's in the same state, there's history of him living near El Paso, TX at least a decade ago, so this is going to be a while before that can be deduced. Good idea though, I commend you for efforts to uphold the rule of law!

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His strategy finally paid off. He was able to justify to himself (no large feat) to shoot and kill someone. They will probably bring charges and dismiss them so a company court in the future can’t prosecute him. Speculation, naturally, but it wouldn’t surprise me.

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lemmings.world

One is so traumatized and proceeds to step in front of a car in a heated situation. Don't make me laugh.

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lemmy.world

Also trying to act like we should be sympathetic to his trauma and understanding that he shot someone given what happened to him. Like fuck you no. Why in the goddamn hell did you put someone traumatized that badly back in the field‽ If he was this traumatized then he was clearly a danger to the public when he was reinstated

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If anything it means that this guy should be in jail and his manager should be as well for creating a public safety risk through negligence.

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If I were one of this woman's older kids, I'd want to look this prick in the face and make him answer for his actions. Even if it takes days of getting in his face, not letting him eat, shop, or work without my presence asking...why? Why are you still alive and she isn't? They'll outlive him, so they can ask him again and again until he dies. We know how hard it is to get restraining orders against actual threats, try getting one against a minor child whose mother you obliterated.

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lemmy.world

There is not statute of limitations for murder in Minnesota, and state-level crimes cannot be pardoned by the president. They may not be able to prosecute him in the current political environment, but there is no end date when he can be tried for this murder.

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Yeah, basically what I've gathered is nthat it's up to federal-level courts to determine his actions to be within reason, then the state charges can be issued. I fear this will go to the us supreme court, which regardless of outcome is a long time to let a murderer roam the streets terrorizing society.

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lemmy.world

I gues you didn't watch the press briefing.. JD Vance says they will take a look at the radical left, who is responsible for all the hate towards ice agents, and also says that the agent who did his duty deserves nothing but respect as all other ice agents who are doing a hell of a job. This administration is fucking insain.

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Right now the FBI is shutting out state law enforcement, but that does not prevent the state from charging him anyway, now or in the future. It may come down to the prosecutor bringing a case with the multiple videos and eyewitnesses, and making a bet that they don't need the actual gun or the other pieces of evidence the FBI has commandeered to make their case.

They have to be very careful how they go about it, but that option remains open forever, as others have pointed out. This murder will never NOT be hanging over that thug's worthless sociopathic head.

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Yeah but state charges can't be pardoned by the president, so there's still a chance.

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lemmy.world

Just going to point out that enough people start shooting them on sight, they can't prosecute us all. It will overwhelm the system. We hold real power but only if we are willing to use it, consequences be damned.

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lemmy.world

What a stupid fucking suggestion. I'm just going to point out that on one should listen to this dumbass, because you will be prosecuted.

Let the keyboard warriors fight.

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Will you feel the same way when it's your wife shot? Will you feel the same way when it's you being hauled off to a concentration camp with horrors that has only been seen in history? How about your children and other loved ones? Will you be saying the same as they are trafficked by the pedophiles and rapists in charge?

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Conscripting all the posters to fight a war is the funniest idea.

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What a stupid fucking suggestion.

Yes.

because you will be prosecuted.

LOL. Only if you're very very lucky.

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I’m mean, you’re kind of right. If you shoot at the Gestapo the Nazi Regime will try to prosecute you.

Dumbass.

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SLVRDRGNreply
lemmy.world

They did a great job prosecuting all the Jan 6th mob..

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That was in one location live broadcasted and watched by millions, and a lot of them didn't believe in masks. It's different when it's spread across the country and people actually try to hide.

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FBI estimated 2000-2500 people were there so no, they did not catch them all.

Dumbass.

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lemmy.world

Because we out number them millions to one. Even concentration camps aren't large enough to hold us. It's why WW2 Nazi's had to use gas chambers to keep clearing them out. And if we start thinning their numbers now they won't ever have enough manpower to get that far.

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MrSmithreply
lemmy.world

Oh my god, stop watching Hollywood films and go outside. This is some absolute delulu talk.

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lemmy.world

Naw I just pay attention to history and know that violence is the answer to our current pattern. Crack open a book.

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MrSmithreply
lemmy.world

Lmao 21% of americans can't read. How about you guys start cracking more books open, and watch fewer superhero films.

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lemmy.world

Alright well it seems you aren't capable of comprehending what you read, so it m not going to waste my time further with you.

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Fedizenreply
lemmy.world

If anything shooting other people who aren't rich is exactly what the oligarchs want. It gives them an excuse to use more force and the people being killed are not the people orchestrating this.

Imo, if Luigi Mangioni scares these fucks more than any head of state on the planet, maybe that's the glowing neon sign to look at more closely.

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athatetreply
lemmy.zip

They’re already using more force. Oh but maybe now they will stop ramping up the violence.

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They're going to do shit no matter what but how much of the public's consent they're doing it with is variable

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Yet he's magnetized to car doors like a fucking moth to a lamp? Nobody will buy that shit. Even Bush (Yes, that Bush) said, "Fool me one time, shame on you, fool me two times shame on me." Implying that when the second time these things occur, even the utmost conservatives know this isn't someone fearful, just a complete fucking fool.

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lemmy.world

Sounds like he told himself if he’s ever in that situation again he’s going to blow the driver away. Then proceeded to seek out said situation.

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lemmy.zip

I thought the exact same thing when I read about his previous incident. If he wants to claim that he’s sensitive to vehicular injury because of what happened 6 months ago, that defense should be blown up by the fact that he approached her car and practically hopped on the hood to get aim at her with his gun. He leaned on the front of it while it was moving. Motherfucker wasn’t scared of shit, he was taking his opportunity.

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“ICE is going after only the worst of the worst.” Along the lines of “every accusation is an admission,” they're not sending their best... They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

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I don't know if it's entirely unrelated. It shows he absolutely has no law enforcement training and is incapable of learning from his mistakes. Seems like he's got an MO of trying to assault people in their cars.

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lemmybefree.net

Well that changes some things

The guy already experienced being ran over and in the action took the bad decision to shoot when it could happen again

That nuanced things, but still it’s probably a mistake, and they don’t assume it

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Paddzrreply
lemmy.world

Tough shit?

Murder with car is okay after all. Murder with guns is only okay for police and ice isn't police!

He should get zero leaniency with this. Fear for one's life doesn't give you right to murder someone. They're armoured thugs.

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Fear for one's life doesn't give you right to murder someone.

USA kinda works like this though

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Taleyareply
aussie.zone

You don't get to kill people because you are afraid

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Electricdreply
lemmybefree.net

When it’s about saving your life, you do. Survival instinct

Or just tell that to people that shoot burglars when they enter their house

You’ve never exaggerated in extreme situations and made mistakes?

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Taleyareply
aussie.zone

I can tell you right now I've never shot someone because my life was in danger. And it has been, repeatedly.

How the fuck is "You don't get to kill people because you are afraid" something to argue against to you?

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How the fuck is "You don't get to kill people because you are afraid" something to argue against to you?

If you believe you’re going to be killed, then you shoot first

And the goal is not to kill, just to fight the threat to be safe from it. Killing is an unfortunate result

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