More Than 20 Million Americans Are Set to Lose Health Care Coverage on January 1
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Remember when the government was shut down specifically because the Democrats refused to go along with a bill that ended the health insurance subsidies, and they had the Republicans up against the ropes because no matter how much they tried to dodge the responsibility, the majority of people blamed Republican intransigence for the shutdown?
Then remember how the Schumer-led Democrats just completely folded, passed the bill, then stood idly by as the chance to extend the subsidies vanished?
Every single one of those stinking traitorous shitbags needs to be primaried.
So, the problem is the “primaried” thing isn’t enough at this point. People are going to die because of these choices. Eye for an eye.
definitely a comment that would get you banned from reddit
And even though it won't get you banned here, it surely is being documented by Palantir and putting us all on "lists."
Fuck Palantir, it's Google that's the devil.
Don't fear the state, fear the profit driven corporations.
They're the future, and it begins now.
I don’t think you understand the depth and breadth of what Palantir does, and who uses them.
I am fairly confident that's what all these AI companies and GPUs are for to make their own Palantirs or just to run their software. Palantir is basically creating Skynet or any of those cyberpunk type movies where a cop plugs in a persons name and it gives every detail of who they are and a summary of what they did the last week.
That has basically already been done to Palestinians with Microsoft Azure.
Which is strange since Republicans usually love bible quotes.
Fuck this self-righteous political violence
You only say that because you’re in favor of, or not directly affected by, the direction we are currently going.
Paid shill or useful idiot. Either way they should join their masters when the time comes.
The guillotines are thirsty.
The political violence has already been perpetrated upon us. What we are talking about now is political defense against a violent aggressor.
Yes, primary all of them, but ESPECIALLY primary Schumer and Jeffries. They are absolutely toxic to democracy. If someone is claiming it’s a bad idea to primary them, that person is working against the people on behalf of the rich and corporations. Just like current Dem leadership.
Everyone who voted to end it isn't up for a primary, or so I heard back when this happened.
It's like... It was planned.
schumer was protecting the dems that are up for re-election next year, i think there is at least 13 dem seats up(its likely these that are also supporters.
schumer and his DINO acolytes are pretty much gop lite from the start. they had no interest in trying to upset the status quo of the donors. he specifically chose the 8 dems that are retiring or not up for re-election in '26, in order to protect the DEMS that are up for re-election next year. if 8 of them wernt chosen, then 13 wouldve voted to open the govt. look at those 13 DEMS, if they are in your state they need to be primaried.
the airlines are getting nervous so they reminded SCHUMER and thier pets to open the govt back up.
So you are saying this is all the fault of Democrats?
Of course not. Don't be a simpleton.
The Republicans rather obviously bear the lion's share of the blame.
However, that was the Republicans' designated role from the start. Their job was to represent the interests of their plutocratic cronies and patrons by killing a program that spent money to benefit poor people, so they were just doing what they were meant to do and what they were expected to do.
On the other hand, the Democrats' job was to protect a program that benefitted poor people, and they miserably failed at that job. In fact, they didn't even simply fail - they forfeited. They gave up even trying.
And they very much deserve condemnation for that.
the schumers and the dinos were most certainly not to protect programs for the poor, they are to play the "paid opposition of the gop" when its convenient. schumer is at least worth 80+million right now, he has vested interest as any gop to end the govt with no benefits for the constiuents. also the shutdown was indirectly hurting the ISRAEli narrative as well.
You didn't need to add that... This is Lemmy, not Reddit. Come on, now.
Yes - this is not Reddit.
Which is exactly why I'm not going to stand for a poster trying to saddle me with some asinine strawman version of my actual points.
The other poster self-evidently believed that I was either so stupid that I actually believed that "this is all the fault of the Democrats" or that I was so stupid that I'd let that ridiculous strawman slide. And in either case fully deserved a verbal smack upside the head, and that specifically because this isn't Reddit. Leave that sort of cheap, intellectually dishonest bullshit there.
What? The media was making the democrats out to be the ones shutting down the nations airports.
Go ahead and turn on the democrats and further empower the republicans. You might be a russian troll...
So?
Exactly as I already said:
That's what the polls consistently showed, and notably that was in spite of the fact that so much of the media tried to pin the blame on the Democrats.
So your claim here isn't just irrelevant - it's actually part of the support for my position. Yes - the captive media tried to blame the Democrats. But the people weren't buying it.
But Schumer and the Democrats folded anyway.
Nobody is empowering the Republicans more than Schumer and Jeffries and the rest of the establishment Democrats, who can't even be arsed to do their jobs
lol
Soon there will be a critical mass of people who have nothing left to lose
I both welcome and dread the day.
Yeah, I think a lot of people want to speedrun this happening without realizing that in reality it's just gonna lead to a lot more crime and a lot lower quality of life.
The glorious revolution that results in a brand new glorious era for America is not that likely to happen in this scenario. Most revolutions don't really turn out that great, if you ever even get to the revolution phase as everyone is just robbing and killing each other out of desperation.
We already got the 1% robbing us blind into the grave. It would be nice to make this into an mutual arrangement.
Cement for the vents and doors would do fine.
Jackhammers also exist. The cement would only need to be there for like few days.
Fer sure. There are plenty of people that need to suffer consequences, but suffering is an equal opportunity employer.
So like any day of the week ending in "day".
Unfortunately a non-zero percentage will just say we need to keep doing the same shit except more and harder.
And keep voting Republican
Without question or hesitation
The question is: how broken will their spirit be by the time that happens?
Will they just lay down in fear and exhaustion rather than rising up against the people and system that abused them for so long?
It's going to be another tough year funneling taxpayer money to billionaires and corporations. Midterm elections are the best most peaceful route to making 2027 a better year. In the meantime tighten your belt and hunker down.
And help your community in any way you can.
I'd rather people get to work on fixing things now than wait until November.
Me too, big time. But our officials elected and otherwise seem to be mostly riding it out. Except quite a few non-supreme court judges.
I don't mean elected officials. I mean us. You can't beat fascism by hoping someone else will fix things. Ordinary members of the populace need to start flexing their political muscles all the time, not just during elections. We always have power but representative democracy tries to convince us otherwise.
The trouble is we as individuals can't do it alone. If hundreds of people start marching towards DC to physically remove rogue officials from office I'll join them.
It’s incredible how Democrat sentiment is so bad in the face of this. Millions poured into consultants, and they can’t figure it out?
Their vocabulary should be two words:
Epstein.
Trumpcare.
That’s it.
That’s all they need to say to win.
If they’re feeling frisky, sprinkle in a “huh, you know, maybe a few near-trillionaire buddies of the president shouldn’t rob you with AI?”
They were literally handed a actual pedo cabal and a direct existential crisis even hardcore Republicans are feeling anxiety over, on a silver platter. And somehow they’re messing that up?
I’m dysfunctional as hell, and even I couldn’t mess that up.
The BEST Route is to NOT get Political and ALSO not use ANY Leverage we may have as THAT will be Seen as Political! Run on PARDONING the Pedophiles and TRYING to Bring down Healthcare Costs we Caused to skyrocket!
-Highly Paid Democratic Strategists who KEEP losing but somehow STILL get Paid MILLIONS!
the oldguard DNC arnt risking biting the hands that feed them.
Centrist Democrats are paid to lose.
Centrist is being extremely generous.
I have a feeling, that those consultant might be "double agents".
consultants, probably think tanks/ donors of both parties.
Lemmy users are not representative of the average voter.
The issue is that democrats would rather lose elections than make healthcare affordable. It's not bad strategy, it's the logical consequence of their interests
You don't understand that the majority of americans aren't willing to pay for any tax increase to pay for public healthcare. As soon as you mention it the media and opposition go off on socialism and taxes and the voters go "Omg! Evil socialism!!"
USians don't need to pay for tax increases to pay for public healthcare, USians already pay exceedingly expensive healthcare. Government expenditure doesn't come from taxes, the federal reserve can literally create money at will at a keystroke. Expropriation of the existing hospitals and clinics by the state would already make healthcare much cheaper than it is, because right now the wealth is siphoned off to rich people and corporations.
"Why aren't people having kids anymore?"
So glad we ended the shutdown and got nothing out of it because democrats were promised a vote on this that they knew they wouldn't win on.
A promise we all knew was a lie the moment it was said.
Oh, and the bill they voted on also made hemp-derived THC products illegal.
I wonder which democrat was holding out for that.
It really sucks that democrats are useless. I hate having to vote for them but even being useless I think/feel the worst democrat is miles ahead of the best republican. Man those two words shouldn't ever be used together.
They're complicit. Merely useless would be an improvement.
One that had stock in Phillip Moris.
More likely Anheuser-Busch.
I'm sure they'll pay for the propaganda how this was the lesser evil.
No, you aren’t allowed to criticize useless Democrats! That makes you MAGA on Lemmy!
How dare you use the speech we said you could use in any time that's not
the electioni meanthe primaryi mean any time you call out we support bad things!!If Null, PugJesus, and Rheori are going to mass downvote my account because they got butthurt for breaking rules and not getting away with it, they could be a bit more subtle about it.
Oh well, I guess I don't support the Gaza genocide like Goat does so I guess I'm a tankie now.
Edit: Hey null. How's it feel to be aligned with someone who's pro-genocide?
Edit 2: $50 dollars to Lemmy with From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be Free with Goat's name.
Which INCLUDES Trans and Brown CHILDREN so this is OK with Me!
-Republicans who Follow Jesus Christ!
Conservatives would crucify Jesus Christ if he returned from the dead. Too woke.
I mean his return would go over badly in general... He basically preached how people shouldn't worship him and make a religion out of him like all the time. He would probably shun most of his 2.6 billion followers if they didn't reform the entire basis of their religion.
That's not even to mention supply side Christianity... I don't think Jesus can smite or is even allowed to harm, but I am sure he would have some scathing notes for his dad who is much less hesitant about causing harm.
It's so sad that these republicans can never fully comprehend the depths of how much the Jesus they worship would absolutely loathe them.
There'd be whole books written about feeding the poor, housing the homeless, healing the sick, dining with the sinners, and deprogramming the republicans.
I have a clinical colleague who worked in the US for a few years. I think their description of US healthcare is best summarized as follows. Has the potential to be the greatest on Earth. In reality, the quality of care provided is far below European standards. She was mortified to discover that diabetics routinely had below knee amputations whereas in the rest of the world, with the exact same clinical picture, care would be provided to prevent worsening of diabetic foot.
for type 2 is lack of nutrional education, proper managment as well. because it so expensive, plus you have things like insurance making you pay into your preniums before they fully cover any medical care. mortality for women in pregnancies seems to be worst, and AA people have the worst rates.
Not American here. AA?
Likely “African American” in this context.
Horrifyingly, this seems far worse than as described at a point at only 8-years ago.
The 2nd Amendment is more important than health care. The dumbfucks who voted for this would buy ammunition over insulin shots.
If only we could somehow use the 2nd amendment to ensure access to healthcare.
Yeah, a well regulated militia has well regulated blood sugars, right?
Shoot a 2nd amendment chud in the leg and see how much they care about healthcare. ;)
LOL! Indeed.
The Republican eugenics plan is working.
Ah the sweet smell of freedom.
Pedo traitor party doing what they always do. Which is everything they can to harm average Americans.
Gonna be a lot more Americans that hate America going forward. Let's see how that turns out.
Hey y'all. Stop voting for fucking conservatives or doing things that allow conservatives to have control, like not voting or voting for 3rd party candidates that literally cannot win because they are members of non-viable parties that haven't done anything to make themselves viable.
That's all well and good because at least Musk is on his way to becoming a trillionaire!
Real talk, why the fuck hasn't there been a West Wing-esque or some sort of satirical tv series that literally just showcases exactly what has been going on for the past 2 decades? Sure there was House of Cards and what not, but I'm talking a literal 1-to-1 copy of all the shit Trump and Republicans have done for 20 years?
That would be more valuable than all the fucking ads and text messages we receive from the DNC, combined.
Because the people who own media companies want Trump in charge.
its more obvious now, but before its still leans conservative through traditional MSM copaganda , militaryganda shows.
This is mass murder
Guillotines would fix this lickety split
That seems like a morbid sort of healthcare plan
'Tis a sharp cure, but good for all ails.
No more headaches.
That is utterly brutal. So sad to see.
Are they sick of winning yet?
This is why I hate the holidays. Because depressing shit like this happens on the holidays. They always did.
The MAGA morons would still vote for their fucknut orange savior.
Disgusting behavior MAGAts.
Happy fucking New Year!
And isn’t there still that stupid law in place saying you have to have health coverage and get like a 1095-C stating which months you did, otherwise they penalize you on your taxes and potentially jail?
Nothing like a double whammy.
No
When did they repeal that?
2017 I think.
Not that it was ever that stringent or widely enforced to begin with.
Thanks. Thats really annoying that they send out the 1095-C forms then. Just a waste at that point.
Cancer, injuries and other illnesses are just your own fault. Every man, woman and fetus for themselves.
/s
noo it's not your fault...god wants it this way (:
FREEDOM!
Propaganda is a hell of a drug.
If I were you, I’d take a hard look at rising right wing extremism across the EU, and spread the word. Before it happens to you, too.
its all funded by putin, why do you think the sudden rise is all at the same time around election years. marine lapenne, PP in canada,,,etc
"rising" not winning. So far the right wings havent had a lot of success in Europe, even though now both russia and USA are trying yo manipulate our People to vote for their crazy agenda. What usa has become, is a scary example of how the right wing will fuck up your country once it goes there way. We can only Hope we are better than this. I see a stronger, more unified EU now, than before trump got voted in for the second time. I only see the right has most of their success with the boomer generation and in eastern european countries, which apparently has a more laissez faire relationship with russia in the first place. But we will see. We are undoubtly not allies with usa Anymore, so we have to create our own future with what we got now.
We have already been through that just fyi
That’s what I’m saying!
It may be fun to make fun of the US, and justified. But I think it’s a distraction from what’s happening in your own back yard.
Don’t be us. Please.
If the US learned anything of Europe they wouldn't be in this mess.. Europeans are already very aware of it. edit: you are warning us about what we've already been through and we warned YOU about. the ignorance and arrogance of you people are staggering.
US has always been pretty right wing for a western country, its just hopium to think it can move left in any form.
"people who did not vote for this must suffer because i am not one of them and i want to watch the dumpster fire from afar with glee"
Well, that is how democracy works, the majority of boomer voters, gets to choose which direction your country chooses to go for. I really don't care about "fake news" a corrupt voting system, manipulative social media etc. We are all trying to get fucked by russian and american interests when we go to vote, in all western society, so this is no excuse. You decided to turn your back on the western world, now deal with it.
I'm watching this dumpster fire from afar in horror.
Surely those Americans who claim not to want this will band together and put a stop to it soon?
Over half voted for this and the others did nothing and still wont do anything.
so you can't do math and you only get news from the television? am i understanding you right?
What makes you say that?
You sound like a child.
womp womp
the grass roots culture across the us is "stay off my property or I will shoot you". so what'ya expect? the largest cultural influences we have are pioneer culture and capitalism. it isn't a mature society by any measure, it is the pinnacle of what you get from colonialism.
Whenever I see those crazy, deranged Israeli settlers in the West Bank, I can’t help but think about how the people who colonized North America were just as horrible. Cut from the exact same cloth.
Africa, NA, Central America, SA, the Carribean, Asia, the Pacific, Australia and everything else. Alcohol, disease, war, food, drugs, minerals, sex, amd labor. Everywhere you go, it happened, and is still happening, even in the culture that replaced what was destroyed. There's always something to steal or take advantage of, for the greedy.
israel is just a western colonial proxy power.
It's hard to care about the outside when I have to constantly be vigilant to how my closest neighbors are trying to fuck us.
And how Are we "fucking you" exactly?
It’s what the people wanted so let them have it. MAGAts need to feel the consequences of their own actions.
It’s what less that 30% of the population wanted.
A problem is that with our system of government, if you have .001% majority in all three branches the other 49.9999% get absolutely no say in anything.
I mean. That is also how it works in most countries? If you have a proper majority you can do basically anything.
The problem in the US is how the representation is assigned, is it not?
Part of it is that many many people did not vote, after that it’s really a winner take all system. If you can get a 1 person majority in both houses and the president the minority party with 49% representatives gets zero say in anything.
It is what it is. Nobody here would be complaining if dems had the same .001% majority.
Because that would never happen, left or center left leaning people are the majority
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Can't lose what you dont have...
20 million George Carlin Americans who will be losing shitty, yet at least some medical coverage, due to their own Idiocracy and the complete incompetence of the Democrats who continue to capitulate in the face of adversity.
Color me not that sympathetic.