Eurovision champion Nemo returns the winner’s trophy to protest Israel’s inclusion
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Maybe it's time to see Eurovision for what it really is. I think Americans are starting to see what the Nobel Peace Prize is all about as well.
What? What are either of these things really? I'm so confused.
I'm not exactly sure what they're getting at, but I did see someone from the Nobel Peace Prize committee call for Maduro's removal just as the US has been ramping up its "anti-narcotics" operations in around the oil and lithium rich country, complete with extra judicial killings of Venezuelans, telling other nations to avoid their airspace and very recently seizing an oil tanker ship...
So it kinda feels like the Nobel Peace Prize committee is trying to add justification to the cause for war that the US is trying to drum up, which is wantonly egregious, so maybe they're implying that both the Nobel committee and Eurovision are tacit supporters and backers of imperialism.
I mean Maduro is pretty bad. If that statement was just about him, I don't see the issue. They seemed to quite dislike everything Trump was doing.
The most confusing part about that statement was Americans seeing what the Nobel prize is. They especially should stfu after electing that shit-show XD
The peace prize did seem pretty pointless since Obama won it for doing nothing. Like don't get me wrong I voted for the guy and wanted him to win, but it was pretty dang empty to give him the peace prize, especially since he then went on to be in charge while some really ugly stuff went down.
Yeah in hindsight it was a silly award that felt like a “thanks for not being Bush and Cheney” prize.
Now look into how many bombs were dropped under Bush/Chaney, and then how many were dropped under Obama. You'll quickly understand what the Nobel Peace Prize was for.
Or, you know, that 8 years is longer than 6 years.
They gave it to Kissinger too.
Oh wow that's really gross, I had no idea
The fact that they gave the peace prize to that fucking war criminal says all you need to know.
He didn't do nothing, he specialized in illegal drone strikes.
They gave him the peace prize way before that though. Almost like a prize for winning the election
Yeah, this was my point with the "nothing" statement. Obama oversaw and approved some absolutely horrendous things.
USA pllitics aside, the world would be a little brighter with Maduro and his regime out of Venezuela
So you say. But it's up to the people of Venezuela do decide that and then act upon it, not the deranged USA administration.
Of course, but thats another thing. Americans are sick people.
The problem with ellection in Venezuela is that they are stupidly rigged. It is said that Maduro lost the last one 70-30, and expatriates were not allowed to vote alleguing bs reasons. (Those are ~5 million voters that were heavily sided against maduro). If thats true, Venezuela has to "decide" by storming the streets at this point
Still up to them. Being a foreigner you may even cheer for either side, as long as you don't send armies there to plunder and murder.
I will state this cause i think it may be subject of misinterpretation: i stated "decide" in comas because maduro lost the last 2 elections (the first one may be arguable, the second one was scandalous) and nothing changed, not because they should be "coopted to decide" or something.
And just to clarify, the USA should stay out of venezuela
I thought I read they did storm the streets of Caracas, during the last Trump admin, in support of Maduro, during a previous coup attempt.
Like the US got caught sponsoring mercenaries and trying to ship in a load of guns to start a coup. I don't imagine everything is peachy in Venezuela, but I do wonder how much of that is due to meddling by foreign powers versus corruption.
News in Latin America is hard to trust one way or another, because it always seems like it's being twisted to support one goal or another. Like, I know the state media is biased, but I also know the Western media is eager to support bloodthirsty actors who want to pillage their resources.
People said the same of Sadam. Trust me, more imperialism can make it worse.
in most cases yes… but not if the plan is just to turn Venezuela into an all you can eat buffet for the American regime
So long as fucking tRump goes with him.
Maybe someone can convince them to hold a cage match to determine the winner? Or some other form of 1v1 duel?
You mean like how Libya is so much better now without Qaddafi? 🤡
No? Are you slow or something? You people have to stop watching the world in black and white.
You need to learn from history.
You need to touch grass
Why is that? The woman who won the prize is a car right extremist. What has Maduro done badly?
It's political.
Think about it like wrestling. Everybody is a character, nothing is real, but they really need you to believe it is. It's all an act to keep your attention.
It's all fucking keyfabe. On television all the politicians will act like they hate each other however as soon as the cameras are off. It's buddy, buddy time.
I understand in a democracy, there has to be discussions and comprise. The problem is that politicians don't do it on television to dispel the fantasy that they all hate other.
Reading about the "Cultural Cold War" will very quickly explain it to you. They're both a propaganda arm of the MIC.
if there's something i love more than allah it's eurovision
they loves gays
Can Germany also return all their losses?
ouch that is a savage burn!
There is a conspiracy that the German organizers intentionally want to lose, because if they win they have to host the next Eurovision, which always runs at a great deficit.
We would've totally given back our trophy... But you know.
Monarch 👑 I love them!!
Good move!
Can't lie Nemo is based
Nemo broke the code to be just kinda awesome.
Its like a modern enlightenment but songified.
Great job. Make the bully realise no one likes him and won't come to his parties
Dont worry, what citizens think, feel doesn't matter to the governments we elect to "represent" us.
Why not go somewhere the government ist not elected then?
Fucking wow, that’s true gangsta shit right dur
Well done
Nice.
Well this person certainly has some moral grounding, talent, and some kind of look!
I don't really get what would have changed from last year.
The ESC winner of 2024.........
The attack on Israel was 2023..........
Israel has been in Gaza since 2023... This was already brutal in 2024.........
Israel was part of ESC in 2023 and 2024.......
Looks like a publicity stunt.......
I mean... They've been in there for much longer than that
Nemo was outspoken back than as well.
I believe he was Beta back then, Demo released a bit later
Thank you for correcting my autocorrect.
It's in response to the decision last week to let Israel keep participating, which was followed by the boycott of the competition by Spain, Iceland, Denmark and this decision by Nemo. Others countries have since decide to boycott it as well (not Switzerland).
Refusing to participate is a less powerful message with a smaller audience
Winning and refusing to accept the prize would be a much more powerful message with the biggest audience.
This is a stunt.
bla bli bla blupp
This is why the left is doomed at the moment.
Someone stands up for the left side, they receive: "fuck off you're not perfect enough"
Whereas any branch of the right will get behind another if they're even slightly nudging the way they want.
I kind of find it funny all these countries with genocidal history getting on their high horse through a music competition, y’all a disaster.
Fun fact: 100% of countries have done fucked up shit.
I'm not pointing that out because I think that excuses any of the fucked up shit. It doesn't.
I'm pointing it out because by the standards of "shut up if your country was ever genocidal", only people from countries with very little power and influence are allowed to try to do or say anything to make the world a better place for those of us not in favor of genocide.
TL;DR: STFU with that ultra reductionist edgelord bullshit. You're not helping and you're not being clever.
Perspective, you are being very reductionist. Not that i disagree necessarily. Creating a country rarely came from lets all get together and sing happy songs, but there are vast differences among formation of countries, colonialism, and genocide.
Im indigenous so 🤷♂️
Can’t really guilt me into disliking all the colonists and their hypocrisy
Are you saying that indigenous people never warred with others/neighbors and wiped out other tribes? Never raped, never put their enemies into slavery or sold them to other indigenous, or never tortured those they were at war with?
Because, to me, it sounds like you’re making that case with your comment and that is a bullshit case to be made. Humans are historically awful.
Racist asshole, to think you are actually calling native peoples colonizers
Are you suggesting that indigenous peoples have never done any of what I said above?
I’m not trying to guilt you into sympathizing with colonization. I’m trying to get you to understand that, “I’m indigenous, so only bad things ever happened to people like me because of colonization” is a naive idea to have.
No, you're trying to equate to genocidal, "wipe out all indigenous people" with let me check... warring tribes can grouping them all as "all countries do bad things." Which vastly outweighs the evils of the two approach.
You're not trying to guilt him, you're just trying to wash away your colonialist guilt than anything else.
No. I’m really not trying to equate that at all. Using “I’m indigenous” as an excuse to imply that you’re beyond criticism is bullshit. Everyone can be criticized. Everyone has skeletons.
You’re trying to pull words out of nothing. All I was responding to was the whole “ Im indigenous so 🤷♂️” comment.
How do you compare warring tribes to the racial genocide of 60+ million? That in itself is why I called you a racist, it’s the low key colonial racism that’s inbeded in your core. No matter what side you take in politics, there are racist takes like that inside you that you don’t realize should stay in your brain.
Because I’m NOT comparing it. You need some serious reading comprehension practice. You’re all riled up for the entirely wrong fucking point that I have repeatedly said I am not arguing.
Good gravy.
You shouldn’t seek validation from others, even your mom.
What a dipshit take.
There is not a single patch of land where humans have lived where atrocities haven't happened. Not one.
Some countries, though, are committing atrocities right now.
Equating them is absolutely moronic. What kind of Old Testament whacko are you? Put that "sins of the father will be paid by the son" bullshit in the bin where it belongs.
Your language and rhetoric invalidate al your points
It really doesn't, but it that's how you want to run away from the truth little guy then go ahead.
Why are you getting so riled up? You have used so many swears and personal attacks that I think you are not in a good mental state. You should limit your internet usage.
It all lip-service actually. These countries (EU and US) have all the political, economic, legal and military power to actually punish Israel but instead they choose to do these meaningless acts. In fact they benefits from this genocide/colonization.
When someone is at the (benefit) receiving side of colonization process, of course, they would not want to be punished for sins of their father, but they will also not give up on the jewels looted by their father too.
Now let the downvotes shower begin.