And will tell poor people that "hard work let former line workers like Elon Musk become CEOs". (Context: when capitalism came to Hungary, western corporations actively disencouraged self-employment and small businesses, claiming that regular workers at them can be promoted for hard work, and the hardest worker can even become the CEO, also our tax system is set up to screw over self employers and small businesses more, while Chinese battery factories get no taxes.)
“hard work let former line workers like Elon Musk become CEOs”.
Hard work, waking up early, no avocado toast or macha lattes, a small loan of $200 million from daddy the emerald mine owner, a "can do" attitude, and anyone can be a world-renowned CEO!
She's just a liar. Mr President Trump The GREATESTEST has said that economy is A+++++ so she's lying. She must be a democRAT, I mean, have you seen her color? She's clearly not a republican, she's not white enough.
Republicans who supported the modern conservative movement for decades pretending they are part of the resistance, who'll supported practically all the same shit, just under a more neoliberal/neoconservative hat.
Thank you! Far too many people fail to realize these people when MAGA is gone will still be reprehensible Republicans. They supported and worked for W Bush after all. They're not our friends and I'd just be as happy to see both put into a pit with one spork. Then whoever survives gets eaten by lions.
He kinda already did - he was complaining that he can't "get everything done like the president of China", and instead having to wait for other people's approval (like, you know, the Congress).
Idiot voters are much more an output of our broken system than an input. Like we're basically blaming this woman for having a terrible education, being surrounded by misinformation, not forced to but basically highly incentivized into buffoonery. Schadenfreude is an ugly hole, marvel momentarily at it's breadth and depth if you wish but take care not to fall in. There are institutional systems with singular powerful people on top, the puppet masters of these idiots, who are far better targets for scorn.
Aaand I just realized I'm on Leopards Ate My Face. Fuck me lol...See ya at the bottom of the thread!
It's just exhausting to hear "You should have voted for the Democrats" when we did have Democrats 12 of the last 20 years and they weren't some magical panacea for any of this shit either.
"Oh if only you'd just voted differently, everything would be better" is pure liberal cope. Dems from California to Vermont are experiencing all the same problems.
Yeah but I guess everything was great when Democrats were in power or if it wasn't it was Republicans fault.
I subscribed to this community for fun stuff and maybe some interesting news to pop out from time to time but everything is just so depressing and the worse parts I think are usually the comments.
I'm not from the USA so I really have no idea what people over there are really like but honestly seem awfulll based on this. There's just so much hating it's terrifying
She should be just like my mother's boyfriend, whose personal business got annihilated by Fidesz'es new tax policy on small businesses. He's now working overtime for a company for much less, and is also actively campaigning for Fidesz, because he hates seeing black people on Netflix so much.
She needs to stop buying so many pens pencils, and limit her kids to two or three dolls, they don't need more than that.
(yes Mangolini did say that regarding people upset about prices)
Totally her fault for not buying stock and instead decide to have kids she could not afford. But really her husband should be to blame for not making more money. Could he not get a job at ICE? /s
To be fair, even if the Democrats get power back, it's never going to get better. The system is designed only to get worse. We have to tear down everything and start from scratch for anything to get better.
the gop made sure the recent legislation is worst when the dems get back in power, rinse and repeat. republicans have to be continiously be in power while thier legislation is still in effect so they can finally get the blame they deserve,.
My reading: new legislation that will kick the voter in the metaphorical balls will go into effect after the next election, when presumedly the Democrats will be in charge. Voters will be kicked in the balls and blame the party in charge for their pain. This is despite the Republicans being the ones who passed the ball-kicking legislation.
Edit: and the only way the Republicans will be blamed is if they are still in power when the ball kicking occurs.
Thank you. Yeah, legislation like that can be easily be stopped. Proof: Trump's already done it, i.e. the inflation reduction act. Just undo it and call it what it is, an unjust act on the citizens, by an illegitimate administration.
I'm not about to sympathize with these idiots now that they're suffering just to have them screw everything up AGAIN if we're fortunate enough to somehow claw out of this mess with SOMETHING like a civil society left. We didn't get burned hard enough by that when these idiots all voted AGAIN for him in 2024? Having learned nothing?
She's not a pitiable victim - she's a dormant cancer waiting to ruin us again, and continues to be until she sufficiently convinces me otherwise. I don't enjoy watching other people suffer, but she's a threat... one of the millions of tiny knives that are tearing open the bleeding wound of the US. Her suffering doesn't change that.
You very nicely said my reasons for not being overly concerned with their suffering. I know they'll do it again in a heartbeat without realizing they're the one's causing the pain.
In-group behavior is a biologically evolved evolutionary survival mechanism, and is only appalling and destructive when when the out-group is an IMAGINED threat or a scapegoat.
When they're ACTUALLY, OBJECTIVELY a dangerous problem, it's a legitimate response.
Furthermore, the out-group here CHOOSES to be an out-group. Being a vile, self-serving imbecile is not a "can't do anything about it", meaningless biological differentiation. It's a conscious choice that reflects character.
Uh huh... and are there any limits to your CLEARLY superior magnanimity?
Would you pity a Nazi? A member of the KKK? How about a member of ICE?
Because it seems to me right now your position is either "this isn't big enough of a deal" or "there is NO level of heinous or dangerous ideology that is out of bounds", and I reject both of those premises.
Sorry if that was a mistaken assumption, I'm just sick of "lefties" already running republican apologetics just because Leopard Eating Peoples' Faces party members are finally seeing the leopards turn on them.
"ThIs Is WhY yOu KeEp LoSiNg" said in response to not feeling sympathy for these people is step one
People warned them and they ignored it, since the warnings came from the side of the lady with the weird laugh who the gays and trans voted for. It's unfortunate for them, but I'm not going to shed a tear for people who have helped orchestrate their own demise against all warnings.
Well the explanation would work for one election, 2024.
In 2016, he was a terrible choice on so many fronts, but no especially strong reason to expect he would dramatically shift inflation or pay. And on those specific metrics, his first term was mostly typical, except pandemic, which people can believe to be an utterly freak event beyond anyone's control if they still wanted to vote for Trump.
The global economic shock continued and was exasperated by war. Biden had little to do with it, but it was on his watch, so he gets saddled with blame, so to the extent a voter just thinks about their personal economic situation, they vote for "not the current leadership".
So this term has been marked by utterly predictable economic problems that everyone told them would happen, but they didn't have first hand experience to trust that, and Trump's rhetoric resonated with the "I know smart people say it doesn't work, but 'common sense' tells me get rid of immigrants and tariff all imports and things will be great, making American jobs and getting rid of foreigners taking the jobs".
So now they get to see first hand why those common sense thoughts don't actually work.
Still. I predict next year they'll roll back tariffs to try to create a bit of deflation and also cut checks to everyone to make them feel like winners in the moment as they decide midterms.
Yeah, who ever could have seen the current situation coming, except all the people who were screaming that trump was going to make material conditions objectively worse when he was elected.
Just like he did last time.
Can't really feel much sympathy for the 'fell for it again' gold medal winners. We knew this was going to be the result, but voting for a black woman was a step to far.
We're all doing badly, but you expect people to feel sympathy when they have to face the consequences of their own actions? Fuck that, doubly so when they can't admit this is partially on them for their vote.
Trump voters knew what they were voting for, or were too stupid/racist to see what everyone was telling they'll would happen. They're getting the economy they voted for, and the rest of us are being dragged along with them.
We should all have solidarity with ordinary working class people who can’t make ends meet. Lots of them voted for Trump not because they’re right wing racist/sexist lunatics, but because the Democrats are that bad.
I’m not saying that we should let fake leftists off the hook for refusing to vote against Republicans in swing states, but we need to acknowledge that people understand their material interests and vote accordingly.
They vote for their material interests in the same sense that a man walking at night with sunglasses picks the best path. He thinks it's obvious but he really needs to take the sunglasses off and maybe get a flashlight. He's walking a stupid path and will probably fall into a ditch.
Fox News is probably the sunglasses in this metaphor.
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So she'll vote Rep a 4th time because something something illegals, abortions, lgbtq...
Maybe the fifth time she'll be able to buy food. Or the 6th
or "im not one of those illegals, or [inser skin color, poc, or lgbtq+] people."
And will tell poor people that "hard work let former line workers like Elon Musk become CEOs". (Context: when capitalism came to Hungary, western corporations actively disencouraged self-employment and small businesses, claiming that regular workers at them can be promoted for hard work, and the hardest worker can even become the CEO, also our tax system is set up to screw over self employers and small businesses more, while Chinese battery factories get no taxes.)
Hard work, waking up early, no avocado toast or macha lattes, a small loan of $200 million from daddy the emerald mine owner, a "can do" attitude, and anyone can be a world-renowned CEO!
She's just a liar. Mr President Trump The GREATESTEST has said that economy is A+++++ so she's lying. She must be a democRAT, I mean, have you seen her color? She's clearly not a republican, she's not white enough.
Someone is having the day they're voted for. How delightful.
Except we all sufer
Literally did not vote for this. Campaigned against this.
Still stuck with the shit decisions of our fucked up electoral and FPTP system.
The ones who didn't vote for this shit have my fullest sympathy.
Has she tried not being a poor?
Maybe she shouldnt eat avocado toast every morning and start working
Bet she even has a cellphone.
And a refrigerator.
She should just choose not to be poor
or she can try not being poor, like trump said.
Okay but fuck the Lincoln project.
Republicans who supported the modern conservative movement for decades pretending they are part of the resistance, who'll supported practically all the same shit, just under a more neoliberal/neoconservative hat.
And they apparently are willing to give blue check money to Nazis.
Thank you! Far too many people fail to realize these people when MAGA is gone will still be reprehensible Republicans. They supported and worked for W Bush after all. They're not our friends and I'd just be as happy to see both put into a pit with one spork. Then whoever survives gets eaten by lions.
The modern Republican movement is an outgrowth of what the Reagan Republicans created.
She should also make sure she's wearing jeans.
I just want people to be honest and admit they made a mistake, take accountability, and work on fixing themselves.
I refuse to coddle these people who will not learn. You can't keep hitting yourself in the head with a hammer and blame others.
Has she even told Our Great President thank you?!
Next orange dementia grandpa will say democracy is a democratic hoax.
He kinda already did - he was complaining that he can't "get everything done like the president of China", and instead having to wait for other people's approval (like, you know, the Congress).
I mean, it's right there in the name! Only Demon-crats support democracy! /s
Idiot voters are much more an output of our broken system than an input. Like we're basically blaming this woman for having a terrible education, being surrounded by misinformation, not forced to but basically highly incentivized into buffoonery. Schadenfreude is an ugly hole, marvel momentarily at it's breadth and depth if you wish but take care not to fall in. There are institutional systems with singular powerful people on top, the puppet masters of these idiots, who are far better targets for scorn.
Aaand I just realized I'm on Leopards Ate My Face. Fuck me lol...See ya at the bottom of the thread!
It's just exhausting to hear "You should have voted for the Democrats" when we did have Democrats 12 of the last 20 years and they weren't some magical panacea for any of this shit either.
"Oh if only you'd just voted differently, everything would be better" is pure liberal cope. Dems from California to Vermont are experiencing all the same problems.
Yeah but I guess everything was great when Democrats were in power or if it wasn't it was Republicans fault.
I subscribed to this community for fun stuff and maybe some interesting news to pop out from time to time but everything is just so depressing and the worse parts I think are usually the comments.
I'm not from the USA so I really have no idea what people over there are really like but honestly seem awfulll based on this. There's just so much hating it's terrifying
She should be just like my mother's boyfriend, whose personal business got annihilated by Fidesz'es new tax policy on small businesses. He's now working overtime for a company for much less, and is also actively campaigning for Fidesz, because he hates seeing black people on Netflix so much.
Sounds like a wanker.
She needs to stop buying so many
penspencils, and limit her kids to two or three dolls, they don't need more than that. (yes Mangolini did say that regarding people upset about prices)Totally her fault for not buying stock and instead decide to have kids she could not afford. But really her husband should be to blame for not making more money. Could he not get a job at ICE? /s
You joke, but we never see the "I voted for Trump three times and now I'm a fucking billionaire cause I bet on the ponies".
Even though that's exactly who is propping up the conservative movement.
Vote for a black woman? Hell no.
sounds like she's just lazy. she should try getting a job that pays better.
Oh look, an image of a social media post that refers to actual journalism.
Sucks to be you, bitch.
To be fair, even if the Democrats get power back, it's never going to get better. The system is designed only to get worse. We have to tear down everything and start from scratch for anything to get better.
the gop made sure the recent legislation is worst when the dems get back in power, rinse and repeat. republicans have to be continiously be in power while thier legislation is still in effect so they can finally get the blame they deserve,.
Can you reword that in English?
My reading: new legislation that will kick the voter in the metaphorical balls will go into effect after the next election, when presumedly the Democrats will be in charge. Voters will be kicked in the balls and blame the party in charge for their pain. This is despite the Republicans being the ones who passed the ball-kicking legislation.
Edit: and the only way the Republicans will be blamed is if they are still in power when the ball kicking occurs.
Thank you. Yeah, legislation like that can be easily be stopped. Proof: Trump's already done it, i.e. the inflation reduction act. Just undo it and call it what it is, an unjust act on the citizens, by an illegitimate administration.
The saddest part here is that nobody on Lemmy is sympathizing with here.
Three words are all it takes.
"I was wrong."
I'm not about to sympathize with these idiots now that they're suffering just to have them screw everything up AGAIN if we're fortunate enough to somehow claw out of this mess with SOMETHING like a civil society left. We didn't get burned hard enough by that when these idiots all voted AGAIN for him in 2024? Having learned nothing?
She's not a pitiable victim - she's a dormant cancer waiting to ruin us again, and continues to be until she sufficiently convinces me otherwise. I don't enjoy watching other people suffer, but she's a threat... one of the millions of tiny knives that are tearing open the bleeding wound of the US. Her suffering doesn't change that.
You very nicely said my reasons for not being overly concerned with their suffering. I know they'll do it again in a heartbeat without realizing they're the one's causing the pain.
Behold, in-group behavior
In-group behavior is a biologically evolved evolutionary survival mechanism, and is only appalling and destructive when when the out-group is an IMAGINED threat or a scapegoat.
When they're ACTUALLY, OBJECTIVELY a dangerous problem, it's a legitimate response.
Furthermore, the out-group here CHOOSES to be an out-group. Being a vile, self-serving imbecile is not a "can't do anything about it", meaningless biological differentiation. It's a conscious choice that reflects character.
The most non-Maga maga style comment I've ever seen
Uh huh... and are there any limits to your CLEARLY superior magnanimity?
Would you pity a Nazi? A member of the KKK? How about a member of ICE?
Because it seems to me right now your position is either "this isn't big enough of a deal" or "there is NO level of heinous or dangerous ideology that is out of bounds", and I reject both of those premises.
I'd rather feel bad for people who have to deal with this shit who didn't vote for the fat pedo
And that's how you keep losing in politics
Because the left refuses to coddle the right as the children they constantly act like?
Yeah, make it as if I'm attacking all the left
Sorry if that was a mistaken assumption, I'm just sick of "lefties" already running republican apologetics just because Leopard Eating Peoples' Faces party members are finally seeing the leopards turn on them.
"ThIs Is WhY yOu KeEp LoSiNg" said in response to not feeling sympathy for these people is step one
These are mostly just ordinary working people who voted for him, not traitor lunatics.
They also had ten years to figure it out...
They are voting according to their material interests. What is there to figure out?
People warned them and they ignored it, since the warnings came from the side of the lady with the weird laugh who the gays and trans voted for. It's unfortunate for them, but I'm not going to shed a tear for people who have helped orchestrate their own demise against all warnings.
That doesn’t include you?
They voted directly against their material interests, as is evidenced by every single post in this com.
And that info wasn't hidden, as the entire campaign was policy that would obviously raise costs,
If you believe the working class is too stupid to understand its own interests and deserves what it gets, you are not a leftist.
Then you have not been paying attention. The propaganda is relentless.
In what way exactly are they voting in their best interests, he ran three times on racism
Voting for rich guy will make me rich?? This is a myth. Rich ppl don’t get rich by giving money to others.
Well the explanation would work for one election, 2024.
In 2016, he was a terrible choice on so many fronts, but no especially strong reason to expect he would dramatically shift inflation or pay. And on those specific metrics, his first term was mostly typical, except pandemic, which people can believe to be an utterly freak event beyond anyone's control if they still wanted to vote for Trump.
The global economic shock continued and was exasperated by war. Biden had little to do with it, but it was on his watch, so he gets saddled with blame, so to the extent a voter just thinks about their personal economic situation, they vote for "not the current leadership".
So this term has been marked by utterly predictable economic problems that everyone told them would happen, but they didn't have first hand experience to trust that, and Trump's rhetoric resonated with the "I know smart people say it doesn't work, but 'common sense' tells me get rid of immigrants and tariff all imports and things will be great, making American jobs and getting rid of foreigners taking the jobs".
So now they get to see first hand why those common sense thoughts don't actually work.
Still. I predict next year they'll roll back tariffs to try to create a bit of deflation and also cut checks to everyone to make them feel like winners in the moment as they decide midterms.
Yeah, who ever could have seen the current situation coming, except all the people who were screaming that trump was going to make material conditions objectively worse when he was elected.
Just like he did last time.
Can't really feel much sympathy for the 'fell for it again' gold medal winners. We knew this was going to be the result, but voting for a black woman was a step to far.
You mean dumbasses?
dumbass *traitors
Fake leftists who hate the working class? Yes I do.
One party is rounding up immigrants without due process and you want me to feel sympathy for their racist voters for getting their face eaten?
We're all doing badly, but you expect people to feel sympathy when they have to face the consequences of their own actions? Fuck that, doubly so when they can't admit this is partially on them for their vote.
Trump voters knew what they were voting for, or were too stupid/racist to see what everyone was telling they'll would happen. They're getting the economy they voted for, and the rest of us are being dragged along with them.
We should all have solidarity with ordinary working class people who can’t make ends meet. Lots of them voted for Trump not because they’re right wing racist/sexist lunatics, but because the Democrats are that bad.
I’m not saying that we should let fake leftists off the hook for refusing to vote against Republicans in swing states, but we need to acknowledge that people understand their material interests and vote accordingly.
They vote for their material interests in the same sense that a man walking at night with sunglasses picks the best path. He thinks it's obvious but he really needs to take the sunglasses off and maybe get a flashlight. He's walking a stupid path and will probably fall into a ditch.
Fox News is probably the sunglasses in this metaphor.