I think LG had a parent to get that on the works. Roll up phone seems like the ultimate phone honestly. Whatever size you want or need at the time otherwise it's a cylinder like a day sharpie
Considering everyone I know with a folding phone has had a fault with the folding part of it - I don't think its the best idea from a durability standpoint to add yet another folding part.
If one screen or fold point breaks, you're now left with two unusable (but perfectly functioning) screens. Seems like an expensive gimmick to me.
If I saw that obvious issue, what is their fucking problem?
The engineer's problem is that the marketing and sales department started running all of the companies two decades ago. So, they're constantly overruled.
Valid, also the accountanting departments, which is the kiss of death for any company. Never let the accountants run anything, just keep them in their hole, counting the money.
Why did they make the screens fold in? The Huawei Mate XT folds up in a z-shape, which imo makes more sense as you don't need a 'fourth' outer display anymore. Seems more efficient that way.
After reading through the comments and seeing the majority of people are commenting negatively but have never had a folding phone. i feel like i should chime in.
I have owns a fold 3 a fold 6 and now a fold 7, my wife has a fold 5 and we have never had one fail on us. No broken screens, no scratches or bugs. There are also several people where i work who have had at least 2 generations of these phones and also have never had issues.
I know these things break, but so does any phone. Phones breaking tend to be a user problem and not a hardware one. If you dont handle with care then you are the problem.
In fact i have only ever broken 1 phone in my 20+ years of using them and it was entirely my fault. I put it on a book on a table, then without thinking i lifted the book and it slid off and landed in a bucket of water. Pixel 1 not waterproof. My bad.
I guess i just think people are quick to judge these phones without ever having used one and i think thats so short sighted.
I had a fold three for almost 4 years and it was fantastic. And then upgraded to the fold six and had it for about a month open the screen on it and literally didn't even close it and break it and drop it literally just picked it up opened it and it cracked in half I was so pissed. Going through the warranty process they could not get me a six or a seven so they sent me a check which unfortunately would raise my bill by over $100 because I no longer had a phone to trade in at this point so I finally just downgraded to a Samsung 24 plus and in about 6 months I'm going to trade this one back in to get the fold seven because I definitely don't want to pay over $2,000 just out of pocket.
Folding phones are so expensive that I consider it mandatory to have insurance. Samsung Care Plus, in Samsung's case. I switched to a pixel pro fold so I could use Graphene and got whatever googles insurance plan is.
You should only take insurance on things you can't afford to replace (like your house, your car). If you can't replace your phone from savings, you shouldn't buy a high-end phone.
Just because you can replace your phone from savings doesn't mean it's desirable to do so. The monthly payments for these plans are low, and they have saved me money with two full replacements over a period of about 5 years.
Good to know. Almost bought a Fold 6 but decided to fork over the dough for a Fold 7 instead (mainly cause I love how it's as thin and light as any other phone when folded).
Thanks for making me feel a lot better about dropping $2K on this fucking thing. Best phone I've ever owned but I paid out the ass for the privilege.
Good to know, my few experiences with folds (which I was quite fond of) where in the previous era of smartphones (so mechanical keyboard and no touch-screens) and the bending part evidenced always as a weak point in terms of wearing, in one occasion the failure point cause of the phone change. So, is there no evident wearing symptoms in the bending areas of these folding smartphones if treated with love?
I had my fold 3 for 4 years and my wife used it to get a feel for them after me and she very quickly got a 5. I had some of the paint chip off in places after a few years and one time that i got scared by something and jumped a bit and threw it out of my hand to the ground with the inner screen open (only cosmetic damage to the body) it survived a lot. A hell of a lot of engineering went into the hinge so its pretty much the strongest part of the phone. Jerryrigeverything on youtube has tried to snap these phones and they are very strong and so far have not broken in one of his tests.
Any phone can break, but i say if you care for your phone it should last. The 3 onwards have been really solid phones and the fears around them, to me, seem made up.
Everyone I've know IRL with a foldable smartphone has a super obvious crease in the screen where it folds. It's not broken, but it's definitely fucked up.
Yes. There's a crease in the middle of the screen.
But its invisible to the user when looking at the screen.
It doesnt impact using the screen.
Its barely there on the latest fold 7. Definitely more prominent as you go back through the versions. Regardless i have owned 3 generations of the phone and used my wife's one so 4 generations total and the crease doesn't matter. Hasnt mattered on any of them.
What do you think the problem is with there being a crease? What practical issue does it raise? Or is it purely an aesthetic issue? Becaus3 if it is, like i said, you cant see it when you are the one using it.
Fold 7 owner here and I can confirm that the crease is invisible during normal use. You have to purposely angle your phone in unnatural directions under a light to see it. My last phone was a Fold 4 and it was definitely visible then. Not anymore.
This would be the coolest shit ever if these phones didn't have a reputation for breaking so easily. I had the Z Fold 4 and after I left it partially folded for about 30 mins in my car while I was driving, something went wrong with the hinge and it could no longer open fully flat. Unacceptable for a device at that price range.
I want us to go back when it comes to smartphones, not forward. Bring back the holy trinity of removable battery, headphone jack, and SD card slot.
This is a very cool piece of technology. The comments here naysaying about it seem odd to me. If it's not for you that's fine, but many millions of foldables have been bought over the past few years, and they continue to sell very well today
Which foldable do you own? There is no visible crease on my Fold 7 during normal use. The only way I can see it is by placing the phone directly under a light and angling it in an unnatural direction.
That said, my old Fold 4 had an obvious crease. But it's no longer an issue with modern foldables.
it is a very cool technical achievement, but the user experience leaves a lot to be desired with them. most people don't think about comparing. which is the only way i can imagine samsung getting as big as they have.
well that is part of the user experience. the main thing that annoys me though is that the ui tends to go one of two ways for these devices; either it's super-custom to the point that all application developers have to do extra work to be usable on it, or there's too little customisation, which again means apps are not properly usable without extra work. i've not seen a folding device that "just works" yet.
A lot of the issue with foldable is the non-standard aspect ratio. This gets to a standard tablet aspect ratio, so should run out of the box with most apps without additional modification.
Also DEX support on-device means it can run fully windowed applications and use mouse and keyboard natively, which is a big boost in functionality for productivity applications.
personally my experience with anything samsung is that it's locked down to hell so i don't know how useful dex actually is. the idea is neat though, wish someone else did it.
DEX is actually pretty good when used with a keyboard and external monitor. I also dont love thr Samsung walled garden, but I end up buying their products because I use my phones for several years at a time before replacing them so top end hardware specs are a priority and especially cameras.
I would go Sony but the data band support in the US is incomplete, and I can't get caught out by poor cell service while traveling.
I am considering going Pixel next but Graphene hasn't been announced for Pixel 10 yet so I'm a bit on the fence, I guess I could buy an older model and give it a try wifi only for a bit to see how I like it.
i've flipped between sony and lg for my past three phones (which is a period of 14 years at this point), and been forced to use samsung stuff for work. the main difference i've found is that not only is samsung hard to switch from due to their walled garden stuff, they're hard to switch to.
Impressive from an engineering standpoint and it's only going to get more refined. Give it 5-10 years and maybe they will be durable enough for regular use.
I think the problem with 2 folds is that you get a square screen, which sucks for most websites, videos and games optimized for 16:9 screens, either landscape or portrait.
If you're looking at a website designed at any point in the last 10 years it will be able to adapt the layout. Fixed layout were a relic of the past even when I was working in the industry 15 years ago.
Yes, but they still have problems. But I'm noticing a trend in foldable phone designs, and I'm worried that by the time foldable phones get really good, the ones that fold smaller aren't around anymore.
Get a Fold 7. It's the same size as your average flagship when folded. But be warned: Once you get used to having a tablet in your pocket, there's no going back. It's especially great for restaurant menus, mobile games, and YouTube.
I know a person who has some Samsung foldable phone that is as of right now (2025.12.03) about a year old. According to them, everything was fine since February when the phone was bought. But last week we got below 0C weather, so the fold line on the screen got layers separated.
Z Fold 7 is 2000 euro. They might have Z Fold 6, I am not sure. Regardless, that is way too expensive of a phone to breaks under a mildly cold weather.
I only dumped my flip 4 because the winters can get - 20f and plastic and bendy glass hates that. If I lived in a nicer climate, I'd totally have one still. Never gave me issues even in the cold though
its like curved screen gimmick, prone to defect, failures because of the awkward construction making it prone to failures, plus screen protectors have a hard time being placed on them..
What is the point of current folding phones? I still fail to grasp that. This, however, seems more clear. It's a phone that can become a full on tablet. This is a true transformation into an otherwise disparate device. A phone that becomes a slightly bigger phone is the real mystery to me.
Unfold the phone, then go into Developer Options and increase the Minimum Width setting until you have the screen real estate you wanted. That'll solve the issue of things not properly being zoomed out when you unfold it.
Next, fold the phone and increase the setting again until you're happy with how that one looks too.
I don't want to have to do this every time I find a page that's too wide. I just want to pinch out to zoom out and then zoom back in when I'm done. It should have a zoom stop at 100% so it's easy to find the setting to zoom back to normal after zooming in or out. It's such an easy concept, yet nobody implemented it.
Honestly I feel this was always the goal (one of several), but R&D is expensive. Shipping an odd phone that people still buy keeps the shareholders happy while the multi-year research process can eventually produce more usable results.
Single-flip phones were the awkward teenagers, now this phone can be the 18-20 age young adult, fully featured, but needing refinement. Next gen or the one after this will add a lot more robustness.
When you start needing reading glasses, you'll know. I have a phone for outside the house and a tablet for home. I would much rather just have one device be both.
Pretty soon Samsung is going to release a foldable that can become an imax screen. You just need to unfold it 1000 times, and you're set. It also needs to be unfolded 4 times to be able to answer a call, or use the 1.2 back screen to do that.
Woah, I cant believe Samsung created something that Huawei released over a year ago (I do belive the Huawei Mate XT Ultimate was the first tri folding phone although it didnt release outside china)
Nah its perfect, I always forget or dont wanna carry my tablet, trifold is the perfect size for reading comics when I feel like it. Also a decent size screen for shows and android desktop potentially. Android desktop seems to be moving towards linux support maybe. I stopped following along.
I actually like this idea. It provides more girth for when I make pro-Google threads on Lemmy, set notifications to vibrate and shove the phone in my asshole.
20-folded phone, or they can make a phone like a dice next, then dodechedron, and then a 20-sided dice phone thats probably thier next marketing gimmick.
I would totally buy it if I had money to waste, I would love to be able to take my tablet anywhere with me like this and don't care about the size of phones, they fit fine in my pockets.
My pixel 6 is dying and I'd like to get something for graphene or another less monopolized distro but there's no support for phones released this year as far as I can tell from most distros so I'm looking for one more normal phone until hopefully that ecosystem is better off.
Even the new pixels look weak from several angles
It was hard to get want them after all the reviews came in.
It's comments like this that make me worried about literacy rates and reading comprehension.
I want to replace my Pixel with a cutting edge phone that is user friendly, repairable, highly private, has all the features I like, and whose company is owned by its workers and not evil.
That phone doesn't exist.
So now we talk priorities. With Google looking to close down android, I want something more open than stock android. My options are very limited. Graphene only works on the pixel line and not even the newest pixels, which are very underwhelming, so that's not a great fit. LineageOS doesn't seem to support any new phones albeit I didn't cross reference every phone. The nothing phone, and every other competitor, seems lackluster as well.
So I've resigned to settling for any phone that's cutting edge. If this is going to hopefully be my last mega evil corpo phone, I've been flirting with going with multiple screens because I doubt in 3 years there will be a non-corpo folding phone option if the normal slabs are still struggling. Samsung only "comes to mind", and this might surprise or confound you, because we're commenting on a thread about a Samsung phone.
If anyone has better recommendations for a last corpo phone out now or on the horizon, I'm all ears. And if someone wants to try and convince me there's a great phone out there that can run a non-stock OS and still be a largely enjoyable experience I'm also ready to be wow'ed. But I've looked around a bit and failed to find anything.
They could have also reread my original message. They could have also commented something meaningful even with the wrong initial reading.
They could have asked for clarification, additional context, or anything else useful.
Instead their comment was... Idk how I would describe it. An attempt to insult? An unhelpful observation?
Its the opposite of being an ally, of helping people break from their chains, to misread their position and then write something snarky. Idk, I think people who make online spaces exhausting or worse deserve a few more insults in their life. Especially if they're not being helpful.
Graphene now supports the newest pixel just so you know, Google held up the update that they needed to support it for a couple of months, but it's out at last.
There's always Fairphone and Shiftphone if you're living in the EU. Not cutting edge, but should be more than good enough for most people. (Oh, and my Fairphone 5 is honestly built like a tank.)
I mean I'd love to buddy. When someone releases a phone with all the modern features I want and the best processor and a repairable battery (or any other of the consumer friendly practices we all want) I'll buy it. But don't act like I'm choosing to not get the ideal phone when it doesn't exist. It's compromises everywhere.
What are those? Because the difference between midrange and top of the line has been shrinking from year to year.
the best processor
What do you do with your phone that needs the best processor? Maybe you have some special use case, but the vast majority of people don't need the best processor - often that's a case of chasing the shiny new thing.
all day battery, doesn't seem Fairphone hits this exactly. When I'm vacationing I'm using my phone constantly to map and translate and record so it's the single biggest thing I want in a phone.
a great camera, until I get a standalone shooter this is what I got. This is a great argument for a Fairphone because it's on the cheaper side.
a large screen, ideally the largest I can possibly get. I joke that I won't be happy until I can unfold a 72 inch OLED from my pocket. So bright, colorful, OLED, fast refresh and variable refresh, and big.
wireless charging. I really like the idea of the pixel snap feature. That would be a big selling point for me.
great processor. I don't play phone games a ton but my current phone turns into a toaster on an idle game and that's unacceptable. Would like to not worry about performance.
USB C, think everything has this these days.
dual speakers, I listen to things when cooking so good speakers are actually nice. All the casting that used to be so easy seems like it's gotten harder these days.
if someone other than apple would offer the lidar camera setup they've got, or whatever allows them to get a good topographical scan that would be a big selling point.
Again, not really exhaustive, but I'd consider myself a pretty normal consumer with a larger budget and a recognition that I use my phone more than any other device in my life so I might as well make it good.
Fair phone is compelling, especially compared to getting an expensive folding phone, but I'm not sold yet. You guys have definitely given me something to think about though as my screen continues to dim.
damn! I love my fold 5, but only cause the front screen is slim. not a fan of the standard screen size on the front of this one but a 10 inch tablet in my pocket is intriguing....
ill wait for the second or third generation to come out before I consider this
It's really not. The screen is 4k OLED. It's a perfect display. The tech had one tiny downside when it first launched which wasn't the crease was relatively noticeable, that's a long since fixed issue.
The only people who think folding phones are a gimmick are people who have never had them. Or and apple users who want one but can't get over the fact that Apple doesn't make them.
Who wouldn't want a phone that can change size on demand. How is that not a useful feature? Sci-fi is full of transparent screens which are objectively terrible, but folding is useful.
Sure buddy, whatever keeps the iPhone nightmares at bay for another year. But does the battery last three times as long? Who cares about screens if I have to charge twice a day.
You know that fat British guy that someone is posting shorts of on Youtube/Tiktok? "I was working for a company and their main product wasn't selling. They asked me if they should lower the price, I told them 'no, make your entry level product more shit.' So they took their entry level product and added roofing nails to the seat cushions. Overnight, sales of their main product skyrocketed because no one was buying their entry level anymore." That guy? He said he likes Samsung's folding phone because "I'm old and my vision is failing, so I like the larger screen of the Fold. But you can't sell that, because it's not cool to sell products for the old and infirm."
Can't speak for the TriFold, but I easily get a full day out of my Fold 7, even with Battery Protection set to 85%. I usually end my day with a 40% charge, which is considerably better than my last phone (Fold 4). Easily over 1.5x more battery life.
That said, I miss the pre-Android/iOS days; back then I was charging my phone maybe once a week.
The outside display is just about 21:9 and internal about 4:3, sounds like it's an ultimate retro gaming handheld. Lack of SD card support is a pain though
For folds, I like the old flip phone style flips better. The only puzzling thing with those ones are why keep the front facing camera when the rear cameras have a display on that half on the phone. The outer display on this is 6.5". It's not a compromise in size at all like the flips/razrs. Internal screen shouldn't have a selfie camera either
I don't give a shit what most people want. Most people don't know what the fuck they want, and if you ask them they'll start making up even dumber shit because you asked. A keyboard on modern day phone actually has value though for people that know what they want & need. Just because a lot of people use cars doesn't mean NASCAR should be looking at everyday drivers to design their cars. We're talking about a triple-fold touch screen here, basically proving my point about what happens when you ask dumb rich people what you should do next.
People vs most people. Also, like I said.. a lot of people don't even know what they want when it comes to these things or what is fictional. I'm sure if you ask a lot of them if phones should have a ghost scanner, a lot of people will say they should.
I want a keyboard, but not one with little keys with small travel. Give me a real keyboard, with real (preferably buckling spring) switches, and good travel. It still needs to fit in my pocket though - which is why I suffer with a touch screen so often. Sure I have a nice 60% Bluetooth keyboard (Cherry switches are not ideal but a large step up from most keyboards) , but it doesn't fit in my pocket and so I schelp it only when I expect to type a lot.
What I want isn't even physically possible. I still want it though. I settle for various compromises because I can't get what I want. This phone might or might not be a step in a better direction.
Yawn. Samsung can have more money and attention from me when theyhave something i want. Give it 5 years.
A few ideas: A) projector! They are like $99 on Amazon now, put in phone. B) and app that pairs w Google glasses to count calories and nutrition of everything I eat all day. C) faraday cage setting D) no bloatware C) idk, im content... anyone else have ideas?
I'd settle for something like the Red Magic 11 with better cameras from them. Saving a couple millimeters instead of having a bigger battery and flat back is silly.
If a projector is $99 it's rubbish. And what kind of light source would fit into a cellphone that is bright enough to throw a picture from 2m away from the wall, possibly during day light hours, without eating the battery in 5 mins?
You want 2-3 phones instead of a folding phone. Light pocketable phone for actual mobile purposes. Can get a data only esim phone with voip to supplement voice/text phone, and have independent enabled data. independent charging. Backup when broken/lost phone. I suggest:
1-2 lightweight phones for mobility.
1 large possibly rugged phone for video or rugged adventures. Can be steam deck on a stand that is better setup as a dashboard. email + web tickers/discord. samsung and other phones also have a "desktop multiwindow mode"
3rd phones, can help with having 2 separate phones act as bluetooth keyboard and trackpad. Keep banking/secret stuff seperate/more secure during travel. Keep one in a locked tilt/swivel stand near bed most of the time. mod to alternate os.
2 or 3 phones is much more storage/ram and audio quality than including a tablet, with better portability options in both packing and daily use. It's also much less $, and can leapfrog upgrades.
This is going to be like shaving razors, isn’t it? How soon before quad-fold phones?
I’m waiting for one that unrolls like a bamboo placemat.
Behold, the iRoll!
🙄
It will come with an optional $400 fork that does nothing.
Tubelet computing
I think LG had a parent to get that on the works. Roll up phone seems like the ultimate phone honestly. Whatever size you want or need at the time otherwise it's a cylinder like a day sharpie
Imagine a phone you literally scroll.
A phone you can crumple up like a receipt before you put it in your pocket
That would finally be a convention to replace slamming the phone down in rage.
"Fuck you!"
crumples the phone
Well phones already vibrate so they're ahead of the curve in that regard.
I'm waiting for the twelvefold myself.
Not sure if we're talking about phone, razor blade, origami, or sword-making.
anything is a dildo if you’re brave enough
The Samsung Origami
What about 6 minute abs?
6 little Samsungs twirling on a branch
Eating lots of iPhones on my uncles ranch
You know that old children's tale from the sea
Dick stuck in Samsung and I have to pee.
When you said shaving razors, I thought you were going to go with disposable, but you went with multi blades. Good head fake.
Nice, it has twice as many failure points as previous folding phones.
Why have a single point of failure when you can have multiple?
Redundancy!
Whose brilliant idea was it to demo this with a wallpaper that looks like a shitty diagonal screen fold?
It’s to make a subtle "Z"
Commitment: 10/10
Execution: 0/10
😲 Zorro is real!
thats not the wallpaper... someone just had nails.
You had me and then you lost me.
How is screen?
Why are you confuse? Battery will last a day? Maybe half of day. Screen? What about three folded screens? The power is immense.
Considering everyone I know with a folding phone has had a fault with the folding part of it - I don't think its the best idea from a durability standpoint to add yet another folding part.
If one screen or fold point breaks, you're now left with two unusable (but perfectly functioning) screens. Seems like an expensive gimmick to me.
Then they can replace more devices. Capitalism at work
Mine grew a visible line at the foldy bit that you can see at an angle.
I like the phone though, just know what you're getting into.
My understanding is that's normal on all foldable. It can be more or less, but it's on all of them.
From the moment I saw it, I knew what the problem would be, and surprise! That's the problem.
BTW, I'm a musician, not an engineer. If I saw that obvious issue, what is their fucking problem?
It's not a problem, it's a business opportunity. The more they break, the more they can sell you a 2000 dollars phone.
The engineer's problem is that the marketing and sales department started running all of the companies two decades ago. So, they're constantly overruled.
Valid, also the accountanting departments, which is the kiss of death for any company. Never let the accountants run anything, just keep them in their hole, counting the money.
I’d love to see a Japanese fan style phone 🪭 Maybe it folds up into a reusable straw?
Not that I'd ever buy it, but I'm looking forward to the price tag so I can have a good laugh.
Why did they make the screens fold in? The Huawei Mate XT folds up in a z-shape, which imo makes more sense as you don't need a 'fourth' outer display anymore. Seems more efficient that way.
Because they're fragile. You don't want your screen to die on the first drop.
and you don't want it full of scratches, since cover glasses and protection cases will probably be quite complicated for these monstrosities?
You know, it’s like 3 screens, so they can push you triple the amount of ads and bloat ware! Yay!
😦
At least we know the folding will stop at 7.
inb4 rolled phone
Perfect for snortin’ lines lol
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After reading through the comments and seeing the majority of people are commenting negatively but have never had a folding phone. i feel like i should chime in.
I have owns a fold 3 a fold 6 and now a fold 7, my wife has a fold 5 and we have never had one fail on us. No broken screens, no scratches or bugs. There are also several people where i work who have had at least 2 generations of these phones and also have never had issues.
I know these things break, but so does any phone. Phones breaking tend to be a user problem and not a hardware one. If you dont handle with care then you are the problem.
In fact i have only ever broken 1 phone in my 20+ years of using them and it was entirely my fault. I put it on a book on a table, then without thinking i lifted the book and it slid off and landed in a bucket of water. Pixel 1 not waterproof. My bad.
I guess i just think people are quick to judge these phones without ever having used one and i think thats so short sighted.
I had a fold three for almost 4 years and it was fantastic. And then upgraded to the fold six and had it for about a month open the screen on it and literally didn't even close it and break it and drop it literally just picked it up opened it and it cracked in half I was so pissed. Going through the warranty process they could not get me a six or a seven so they sent me a check which unfortunately would raise my bill by over $100 because I no longer had a phone to trade in at this point so I finally just downgraded to a Samsung 24 plus and in about 6 months I'm going to trade this one back in to get the fold seven because I definitely don't want to pay over $2,000 just out of pocket.
Folding phones are so expensive that I consider it mandatory to have insurance. Samsung Care Plus, in Samsung's case. I switched to a pixel pro fold so I could use Graphene and got whatever googles insurance plan is.
You should only take insurance on things you can't afford to replace (like your house, your car). If you can't replace your phone from savings, you shouldn't buy a high-end phone.
Just because you can replace your phone from savings doesn't mean it's desirable to do so. The monthly payments for these plans are low, and they have saved me money with two full replacements over a period of about 5 years.
Typically an insurance doesn't save you money. If it did the insurer would go bankrupt.
Unless you know you will claim much more than a typical insuree, because you break a lot of stuff.
Good to know. Almost bought a Fold 6 but decided to fork over the dough for a Fold 7 instead (mainly cause I love how it's as thin and light as any other phone when folded).
Thanks for making me feel a lot better about dropping $2K on this fucking thing. Best phone I've ever owned but I paid out the ass for the privilege.
Fool! This is the only folding phone any true man could need
That doesn't look like a razr
As another data point, I'm writing this from my fold 6 which is about one year old, with no scratches nor marks of any kind.
Good to know, my few experiences with folds (which I was quite fond of) where in the previous era of smartphones (so mechanical keyboard and no touch-screens) and the bending part evidenced always as a weak point in terms of wearing, in one occasion the failure point cause of the phone change. So, is there no evident wearing symptoms in the bending areas of these folding smartphones if treated with love?
I had my fold 3 for 4 years and my wife used it to get a feel for them after me and she very quickly got a 5. I had some of the paint chip off in places after a few years and one time that i got scared by something and jumped a bit and threw it out of my hand to the ground with the inner screen open (only cosmetic damage to the body) it survived a lot. A hell of a lot of engineering went into the hinge so its pretty much the strongest part of the phone. Jerryrigeverything on youtube has tried to snap these phones and they are very strong and so far have not broken in one of his tests.
Any phone can break, but i say if you care for your phone it should last. The 3 onwards have been really solid phones and the fears around them, to me, seem made up.
Everyone I've know IRL with a foldable smartphone has a super obvious crease in the screen where it folds. It's not broken, but it's definitely fucked up.
Yes. There's a crease in the middle of the screen.
But its invisible to the user when looking at the screen.
It doesnt impact using the screen.
Its barely there on the latest fold 7. Definitely more prominent as you go back through the versions. Regardless i have owned 3 generations of the phone and used my wife's one so 4 generations total and the crease doesn't matter. Hasnt mattered on any of them.
What do you think the problem is with there being a crease? What practical issue does it raise? Or is it purely an aesthetic issue? Becaus3 if it is, like i said, you cant see it when you are the one using it.
Fold 7 owner here and I can confirm that the crease is invisible during normal use. You have to purposely angle your phone in unnatural directions under a light to see it. My last phone was a Fold 4 and it was definitely visible then. Not anymore.
But what about 4 folds? 5? 6! Why stop there! 7-minute abs!
I have owned 3 foldable phones and any of them failed. 2025 is a year of Samsung. Fold7 and this TriFold. Amazing technology.
*foldable tablet that can also make calls
Phones have been tablets, well phablets, for nearly a decade now.
My first tablet had a 7" screen. Huawei Mate 70 Air is 7"
What else is 7"? 😏
Wow, haven’t seen anyone use ‘phablet’ for years!
Because phones now are bigger than what we called phablets 12-13 years ago lol
Galaxy Note II (2012): 5,5 inches Pixel 3a (2019): 5,6 inches
Exactly! :)
That's absolutely phabulous!
This would be the coolest shit ever if these phones didn't have a reputation for breaking so easily. I had the Z Fold 4 and after I left it partially folded for about 30 mins in my car while I was driving, something went wrong with the hinge and it could no longer open fully flat. Unacceptable for a device at that price range.
I want us to go back when it comes to smartphones, not forward. Bring back the holy trinity of removable battery, headphone jack, and SD card slot.
i have a feel foldable phone would have more weakspots.
This is a very cool piece of technology. The comments here naysaying about it seem odd to me. If it's not for you that's fine, but many millions of foldables have been bought over the past few years, and they continue to sell very well today
And they will continue to have big ass creases visible in the folding part
Only in real life, not in any of the marketing materials. So you only know how it really works after purchase.
Almost no one buys a super expensive phone that has a totally new form factor without trying it out in real life before buying it
Which foldable do you own? There is no visible crease on my Fold 7 during normal use. The only way I can see it is by placing the phone directly under a light and angling it in an unnatural direction.
That said, my old Fold 4 had an obvious crease. But it's no longer an issue with modern foldables.
it is a very cool technical achievement, but the user experience leaves a lot to be desired with them. most people don't think about comparing. which is the only way i can imagine samsung getting as big as they have.
Statement with no substance. What do you desire that's not there?
Aside from the screen being softer and easier to scratch, name a practical difference between this and another 10" Android tablet...
If a 10" tablet meets your desires, and your desire to fold it and put it in your pocket, what's left?
well that is part of the user experience. the main thing that annoys me though is that the ui tends to go one of two ways for these devices; either it's super-custom to the point that all application developers have to do extra work to be usable on it, or there's too little customisation, which again means apps are not properly usable without extra work. i've not seen a folding device that "just works" yet.
A lot of the issue with foldable is the non-standard aspect ratio. This gets to a standard tablet aspect ratio, so should run out of the box with most apps without additional modification.
Also DEX support on-device means it can run fully windowed applications and use mouse and keyboard natively, which is a big boost in functionality for productivity applications.
personally my experience with anything samsung is that it's locked down to hell so i don't know how useful dex actually is. the idea is neat though, wish someone else did it.
DEX is actually pretty good when used with a keyboard and external monitor. I also dont love thr Samsung walled garden, but I end up buying their products because I use my phones for several years at a time before replacing them so top end hardware specs are a priority and especially cameras.
I would go Sony but the data band support in the US is incomplete, and I can't get caught out by poor cell service while traveling.
I am considering going Pixel next but Graphene hasn't been announced for Pixel 10 yet so I'm a bit on the fence, I guess I could buy an older model and give it a try wifi only for a bit to see how I like it.
i've flipped between sony and lg for my past three phones (which is a period of 14 years at this point), and been forced to use samsung stuff for work. the main difference i've found is that not only is samsung hard to switch from due to their walled garden stuff, they're hard to switch to.
Impressive from an engineering standpoint and it's only going to get more refined. Give it 5-10 years and maybe they will be durable enough for regular use.
sorry I still only hear Hermione
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idk who that guy is, but as a millenial, my head canon on the voice acting of that line belongs to Hermione from Harry Potter
Eh I've watched the HP movies quite a lot, can't remember Hermione having a line like that.
But I do remember seeing a ton of "Love and Marriage" reruns in the late 90's early 00's.
I'm a millenial as well.
Also, Modern Family has been on for a long time now.
And those aren't the only shows Al Bundy has done
Yes, because the dual-fold phone did so great. Clearly the problem was a lack of folds
I think the problem with 2 folds is that you get a square screen, which sucks for most websites, videos and games optimized for 16:9 screens, either landscape or portrait.
If you're looking at a website designed at any point in the last 10 years it will be able to adapt the layout. Fixed layout were a relic of the past even when I was working in the industry 15 years ago.
More unfixable crap for a world drowning in crap. Hooray!
Yeah, even as a foldable enthusiast, I see no reason for this to exist. A second hinge is just another failure point.
Wake me up when the first cylindrical, rollable phone comes out. Until then, I'm happy with my Fold 7.
It would be cool if it rolled into a functional telescope.
I don't want large phones that get even larger. I want a large phones that becomes smaller for my pocket.
This is why I got a Razr. Once the technology becomes common, I dream of a regular size phone that shrinks to a matchbook or something.
Same here. I didn't understand why anyone would want a double thick (or now triple thick 🫨) phablet that folds out into a full tablet.
The razr I bought two years ago is the first phone that comfortably fits in my pocket in like a decade.
They sell those too
Yes, but they still have problems. But I'm noticing a trend in foldable phone designs, and I'm worried that by the time foldable phones get really good, the ones that fold smaller aren't around anymore.
I want a large phone that gets larger but the larger screen is an e-reader.
Huh... That's not a bad idea, actually.
Thanks. It would be nice to combine my phone and Kindle for less money than a regular folding phone. It would cut down a lot on doom scrolling for me.
Get a Fold 7. It's the same size as your average flagship when folded. But be warned: Once you get used to having a tablet in your pocket, there's no going back. It's especially great for restaurant menus, mobile games, and YouTube.
I know a person who has some Samsung foldable phone that is as of right now (2025.12.03) about a year old. According to them, everything was fine since February when the phone was bought. But last week we got below 0C weather, so the fold line on the screen got layers separated.
Z Fold 7 is 2000 euro. They might have Z Fold 6, I am not sure. Regardless, that is way too expensive of a phone to breaks under a mildly cold weather.
I only dumped my flip 4 because the winters can get - 20f and plastic and bendy glass hates that. If I lived in a nicer climate, I'd totally have one still. Never gave me issues even in the cold though
its like curved screen gimmick, prone to defect, failures because of the awkward construction making it prone to failures, plus screen protectors have a hard time being placed on them..
Why?
So they can use the third screen to show you ads
I hate that this is the best reason I have seen.
It sucks. I know its not for everyone and for sure its gonna cost €€€€.
The foldable phone are fine, yet expensive and not so widely used.
I recently bought a flip folder for under $600.
Android version? and how long will the updates continue ? User or new?
I guess i don't really see the point. Is there a strong use case out there, or is this a marge's potato? ("I just think they're neat")
What is the point of current folding phones? I still fail to grasp that. This, however, seems more clear. It's a phone that can become a full on tablet. This is a true transformation into an otherwise disparate device. A phone that becomes a slightly bigger phone is the real mystery to me.
When you try to look at a spreadsheet and there are too many columns even in portrait mode, I open up the phone.
For some reason nobody figured out "zoom all the way out" functionality on the phone yet
Unfold the phone, then go into Developer Options and increase the Minimum Width setting until you have the screen real estate you wanted. That'll solve the issue of things not properly being zoomed out when you unfold it.
Next, fold the phone and increase the setting again until you're happy with how that one looks too.
I don't want to have to do this every time I find a page that's too wide. I just want to pinch out to zoom out and then zoom back in when I'm done. It should have a zoom stop at 100% so it's easy to find the setting to zoom back to normal after zooming in or out. It's such an easy concept, yet nobody implemented it.
You don't do it "every time", you set it once and then never change it again.
I don't want to be zoomed out by default and have to zoom everything
Then pick a middle ground setting that works for you and be done with it.
Also please stop being a whiny little brat. It's unattractive.
Honestly I feel this was always the goal (one of several), but R&D is expensive. Shipping an odd phone that people still buy keeps the shareholders happy while the multi-year research process can eventually produce more usable results.
Single-flip phones were the awkward teenagers, now this phone can be the 18-20 age young adult, fully featured, but needing refinement. Next gen or the one after this will add a lot more robustness.
seems like curved screen gimmick
When you start needing reading glasses, you'll know. I have a phone for outside the house and a tablet for home. I would much rather just have one device be both.
Actually not the first tri-folded phone, but OK
From a fold 7 user. Just buy a fucking tablet, lol.
Huawei: Fuck everything, we're doing five folds.
Imagine the possibilities!
Pretty soon Samsung is going to release a foldable that can become an imax screen. You just need to unfold it 1000 times, and you're set. It also needs to be unfolded 4 times to be able to answer a call, or use the 1.2 back screen to do that.
When in doubt, just add more fold.
Also AI will fake all your pictures and you can gloat that it’s “better.” Fuck Samsung.
Before you downvote, consider this shit.
Woah, I cant believe Samsung created something that Huawei released over a year ago (I do belive the Huawei Mate XT Ultimate was the first tri folding phone although it didnt release outside china)
One plus also have been making fold phones for a while too.
Not only is it available outside of China, this year they even released Mate XTs which comes with a pen.
cant wait for the TeleVone^TM^. a phone that flips to the size of a full 4k television
This technology is wasted on smartphones. We need this on laptop screens.
Oh, like a laptop that unfolds into an ultra wide?
Nah its perfect, I always forget or dont wanna carry my tablet, trifold is the perfect size for reading comics when I feel like it. Also a decent size screen for shows and android desktop potentially. Android desktop seems to be moving towards linux support maybe. I stopped following along.
I actually like this idea. It provides more girth for when I make pro-Google threads on Lemmy, set notifications to vibrate and shove the phone in my asshole.
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Sticking with my pixel 3a xl running ubuntu touch/waydroid for a while it seems.
Bring back netbooks you cowards.
PhabletPhoneTabletNice try, Scamsung! I’m holding out for the Quad Fold.
samsung will move onto making a cube phone next.
I patiently waiting for the infinite fold
This is going to end up like the number of razor blades on disposable razors isn’t it?
20-folded phone, or they can make a phone like a dice next, then dodechedron, and then a 20-sided dice phone thats probably thier next marketing gimmick.
1K per screen according to Sammy.
why?
Because when you break it, the repair costs will keep funneling money back to them. I guess.
Can use it to play D&D.
And who asked for it? They very well know that nobody will buy that.
Just get a tablet at this point.
If it didn't cost so much and the hinges and screens were as reliable as a phone without them, I'd buy it.
Having a big screen in the size of a normal phone would be great.
At the current prices and reliability though, the market is sure to be small.
I would totally buy it if I had money to waste, I would love to be able to take my tablet anywhere with me like this and don't care about the size of phones, they fit fine in my pockets.
Find me a tablet that fits in my pocket and I will.
No word on if it's coming to the EU :(
My pixel 6 is dying and I'd like to get something for graphene or another less monopolized distro but there's no support for phones released this year as far as I can tell from most distros so I'm looking for one more normal phone until hopefully that ecosystem is better off.
Even the new pixels look weak from several angles It was hard to get want them after all the reviews came in.
You're looking for a replacement for your Pixel that is also not too monopolized, and the first thing that comes to mind is Samsung?
It's comments like this that make me worried about literacy rates and reading comprehension.
I want to replace my Pixel with a cutting edge phone that is user friendly, repairable, highly private, has all the features I like, and whose company is owned by its workers and not evil.
That phone doesn't exist.
So now we talk priorities. With Google looking to close down android, I want something more open than stock android. My options are very limited. Graphene only works on the pixel line and not even the newest pixels, which are very underwhelming, so that's not a great fit. LineageOS doesn't seem to support any new phones albeit I didn't cross reference every phone. The nothing phone, and every other competitor, seems lackluster as well.
So I've resigned to settling for any phone that's cutting edge. If this is going to hopefully be my last mega evil corpo phone, I've been flirting with going with multiple screens because I doubt in 3 years there will be a non-corpo folding phone option if the normal slabs are still struggling. Samsung only "comes to mind", and this might surprise or confound you, because we're commenting on a thread about a Samsung phone.
If anyone has better recommendations for a last corpo phone out now or on the horizon, I'm all ears. And if someone wants to try and convince me there's a great phone out there that can run a non-stock OS and still be a largely enjoyable experience I'm also ready to be wow'ed. But I've looked around a bit and failed to find anything.
It’s possible to clarify your position without first insulting the person you’re replying to, fyi
They could have also reread my original message. They could have also commented something meaningful even with the wrong initial reading. They could have asked for clarification, additional context, or anything else useful.
Instead their comment was... Idk how I would describe it. An attempt to insult? An unhelpful observation?
Its the opposite of being an ally, of helping people break from their chains, to misread their position and then write something snarky. Idk, I think people who make online spaces exhausting or worse deserve a few more insults in their life. Especially if they're not being helpful.
If you drop the "cutting edge" condition instead, you could grab a Fairphone, which ticks all the other checkboxes.
Unless you game on your phone, you won't notice a thing between modern high end and low end phones as long as they put enough RAM in.
Samsung is the opposite of everything you mentioned besides cutting edge.
Graphene now supports the newest pixel just so you know, Google held up the update that they needed to support it for a couple of months, but it's out at last.
That's great to hear! Google is a PoS for doing that.
It's worth noting that support for pixel 10s is currently in alpha and incredibly buggy
There's always Fairphone and Shiftphone if you're living in the EU. Not cutting edge, but should be more than good enough for most people. (Oh, and my Fairphone 5 is honestly built like a tank.)
If you want something for GrapheneOS wait until the OEM is announced
Screen is dying, can't wait for their supposed deal in 26/27 that sounds exciting.
Then I recommend getting a used Pixel 7 and using it until the OEM is announced
Maybe try a phone that isn't trash as soon as the battery dies. Something repairable.
I mean I'd love to buddy. When someone releases a phone with all the modern features I want and the best processor and a repairable battery (or any other of the consumer friendly practices we all want) I'll buy it. But don't act like I'm choosing to not get the ideal phone when it doesn't exist. It's compromises everywhere.
What are those? Because the difference between midrange and top of the line has been shrinking from year to year.
What do you do with your phone that needs the best processor? Maybe you have some special use case, but the vast majority of people don't need the best processor - often that's a case of chasing the shiny new thing.
I mean I don't have a laundry list but like:
Again, not really exhaustive, but I'd consider myself a pretty normal consumer with a larger budget and a recognition that I use my phone more than any other device in my life so I might as well make it good.
Fair phone is compelling, especially compared to getting an expensive folding phone, but I'm not sold yet. You guys have definitely given me something to think about though as my screen continues to dim.
Yeah, yeah, yeah...
Lemme know when they are able to fold a phone 13 times and break the record.
is 13 times the maximum number of halfway folds you can do?
12 is the current record for folding a sheet of paper.
Couldn't afford the high quality simulation?
damn! I love my fold 5, but only cause the front screen is slim. not a fan of the standard screen size on the front of this one but a 10 inch tablet in my pocket is intriguing....
ill wait for the second or third generation to come out before I consider this
seems like a gimmick.
It's really not. The screen is 4k OLED. It's a perfect display. The tech had one tiny downside when it first launched which wasn't the crease was relatively noticeable, that's a long since fixed issue.
The only people who think folding phones are a gimmick are people who have never had them. Or and apple users who want one but can't get over the fact that Apple doesn't make them.
Who wouldn't want a phone that can change size on demand. How is that not a useful feature? Sci-fi is full of transparent screens which are objectively terrible, but folding is useful.
Sure buddy, whatever keeps the iPhone nightmares at bay for another year. But does the battery last three times as long? Who cares about screens if I have to charge twice a day.
You know that fat British guy that someone is posting shorts of on Youtube/Tiktok? "I was working for a company and their main product wasn't selling. They asked me if they should lower the price, I told them 'no, make your entry level product more shit.' So they took their entry level product and added roofing nails to the seat cushions. Overnight, sales of their main product skyrocketed because no one was buying their entry level anymore." That guy? He said he likes Samsung's folding phone because "I'm old and my vision is failing, so I like the larger screen of the Fold. But you can't sell that, because it's not cool to sell products for the old and infirm."
Can't speak for the TriFold, but I easily get a full day out of my Fold 7, even with Battery Protection set to 85%. I usually end my day with a 40% charge, which is considerably better than my last phone (Fold 4). Easily over 1.5x more battery life.
That said, I miss the pre-Android/iOS days; back then I was charging my phone maybe once a week.
The billion dollar co-op huawei has a bifold tablet that includes a physical, detachable keyboard.
But go-off Samsung. Now they've got 3 times the screen to auto- install their shitty games on
I don't need origami for a phone. Just bring back classic flip phones or stop. FFS
The outside display is just about 21:9 and internal about 4:3, sounds like it's an ultimate retro gaming handheld. Lack of SD card support is a pain though
For folds, I like the old flip phone style flips better. The only puzzling thing with those ones are why keep the front facing camera when the rear cameras have a display on that half on the phone. The outer display on this is 6.5". It's not a compromise in size at all like the flips/razrs. Internal screen shouldn't have a selfie camera either
For God's sake, people want a keyboard on a phone not more folds. Add a keyboard & become a hero.
We did have that briefly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Droid
A lot has changed in 15 years. I personally liked the keyboard on the Sidekick.
Sales figures and market trends suggest most people do not, in fact, want a keyboard.
You might want a keyboard on your phone. Lots of people here might want a keyboard on their phone. People on Lemmy are not most people.
I don't give a shit what most people want. Most people don't know what the fuck they want, and if you ask them they'll start making up even dumber shit because you asked. A keyboard on modern day phone actually has value though for people that know what they want & need. Just because a lot of people use cars doesn't mean NASCAR should be looking at everyday drivers to design their cars. We're talking about a triple-fold touch screen here, basically proving my point about what happens when you ask dumb rich people what you should do next.
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People vs most people. Also, like I said.. a lot of people don't even know what they want when it comes to these things or what is fictional. I'm sure if you ask a lot of them if phones should have a ghost scanner, a lot of people will say they should.
I want a keyboard, but not one with little keys with small travel. Give me a real keyboard, with real (preferably buckling spring) switches, and good travel. It still needs to fit in my pocket though - which is why I suffer with a touch screen so often. Sure I have a nice 60% Bluetooth keyboard (Cherry switches are not ideal but a large step up from most keyboards) , but it doesn't fit in my pocket and so I schelp it only when I expect to type a lot.
Sir it sounds like you want a laptop phone. Or do you mean small keys but with mechanical switches?
What I want isn't even physically possible. I still want it though. I settle for various compromises because I can't get what I want. This phone might or might not be a step in a better direction.
Well, you could actually float the keyboard when unfolded
No thanks. I want actual buttons like the Sidekick had.
Yawn. Samsung can have more money and attention from me when theyhave something i want. Give it 5 years.
A few ideas: A) projector! They are like $99 on Amazon now, put in phone. B) and app that pairs w Google glasses to count calories and nutrition of everything I eat all day. C) faraday cage setting D) no bloatware C) idk, im content... anyone else have ideas?
I can help with the Projector phone part.
I'd settle for something like the Red Magic 11 with better cameras from them. Saving a couple millimeters instead of having a bigger battery and flat back is silly.
If a projector is $99 it's rubbish. And what kind of light source would fit into a cellphone that is bright enough to throw a picture from 2m away from the wall, possibly during day light hours, without eating the battery in 5 mins?
Have you never used a modern-day LED flashlight they can make them tiny with small dials and still make them brighter than the goddamn Sun lol
Ight, this shit is just getting loony.
If I can't crumple it up and score 3 points to impress my coworkers, I'm not buying
I look forward to trying it whenever it gets below £1000 refurbished.
Oh, that would be nice if the folds weren't still extremely fragile 😂
I won't buy a phone with any fewer than 16 folds.
You want 2-3 phones instead of a folding phone. Light pocketable phone for actual mobile purposes. Can get a data only esim phone with voip to supplement voice/text phone, and have independent enabled data. independent charging. Backup when broken/lost phone. I suggest:
1-2 lightweight phones for mobility.
1 large possibly rugged phone for video or rugged adventures. Can be steam deck on a stand that is better setup as a dashboard. email + web tickers/discord. samsung and other phones also have a "desktop multiwindow mode"
3rd phones, can help with having 2 separate phones act as bluetooth keyboard and trackpad. Keep banking/secret stuff seperate/more secure during travel. Keep one in a locked tilt/swivel stand near bed most of the time. mod to alternate os.
2 or 3 phones is much more storage/ram and audio quality than including a tablet, with better portability options in both packing and daily use. It's also much less $, and can leapfrog upgrades.
I like the cut of this man's jib.
I mean, are foldable devices even something settled in the mobile market?
seems more pricey than a normal one, and it seems women are more into it then men?
But...why?
Same reason Gillette gave us that third razor
I do love the idea of having a 10" tablet that fits into my pocket.
I'm still waiting for the tech to mature more, come down in price, and increase in durability though.
Can't wait to laugh at the first person I see using this monstrosity.
Android? Yeah. Big nope.
Linux?
Waiting on the answer to see if OP is based or sucks