I'm not going to ignore fancy royal shit. I want to embrace it. I want to normalize fancy shit as a way for people to build a unique and definable personal fashion statement. The rich like it because it's inaccessible to the hoi poloi and the poors.
I want to infringe on their culture. Appropriate it for us normal people. Make the fashion of the rich pivot to something minimal and encourage them to really pull back because there is nothing they can do except spend more to get less. I want to rob the rich of all their comforts starting with how they see themselves.
Youtube videos to learn and estate and garage sales for the sewing machine. So many Nana's have a family that doesn't know how to use her well loved hobby machine.
Still better than a suit and tie. Also the guillotines got us into this situation in the first place. (Not that I want the kings back, just some of their fashion)
I thought that it was after the French decided that their kings were to pompous and started wearing military outfits (after the king mysteriously disappeared). I could be wrong tho, the British royals could use some less gold.
Client: Hey I’m a villain in an anime setting who is looking to intimidate an everyman protagonist.
Tailor: Will you be saying “Muhaha?”
Client: Oh most definitely.
Tailor: Better add the cape then.
Oh man, did you know that the capes thing was actually in-world propaganda/disinformation in the movies? Syndrome killed all the people listed as having cape accidents, so it was like a go-to coverup that they died in cape related ways, like the people making the cover stories didn't have the creativity to come up with anything else. And it just ended up making capes seem like a bad idea.
Wait, does the movie actually show that? Are any of the same heroes cited by Edna as cape accidents also shown in Syndrome's database as being killed by him instead?
This got me curious enough to go re-watch the scenes involved. The five supers Edna names are not shown in Syndrome's records (at least not the ones Bob looks up).
The man's coat is some variation of the traditional go-to celebratory attire of Georgia and other Caucasian cultures. Originally also used as a military garb, afaik, if not an everyday dress even. It's called chokha or cherkeska.
I love that Americans think Caucasians means white people. Actually, scratch that, I hate it because it’s based on 19th Century pseudo-scientific nonsense that literally claims that “mongoloid” is a sub-race of humanity.
That's one of the reasons but there's also the fact that we had no fucking clue where white people were from and most of the oldest artifacts from before the Iron Curtain were found in the Caucasian mountains. Given that the Hittites were the oldest known and best researched Indo-European group and their proximity to the Caucasian mountains you end up with a bit of a weird bias.
While a lot of this shit has origins in 1800s racism the ones that stuck around did so because of long term misunderstandings. There was also a short lived hypothesis that different "races" evolved from different species of ape, though that one didn't survive particularly long.
I sent this to my friend along with a message about how much I’d love to see men start wearing this sort of thing, and his response was nothing but “that would get so dirty”
😭 quit being practical! Get it professionally cleaned between use, like a tux! Rent it or smth! Wedding dresses drag on the floor too, but you, the man, are too good to get dirty?????
I do larp, so I wear an above average number of capes and cloaks. It's super inconvenient, but at historically capes would end up at the lowest around your calves, because yeah this gets dirty.
And historically, that meant you'd drag it through literal shit that was in every street, not just road-dirt. It would get destroyed pretty quickly too. Also, as a dutch person, capes have the problem of not letting your a bike, which is a terrible thing of course.
We’re still slowly working our way out of a doldrums era where male clothing has to be undecorative and functional. C’mon lads, we can do this! Let’s peacock again.
I think I saw something with an older Orson Welles in something kinda similar a step or two less dramatic. English noblemen wore something less embellished for a while. I think one of the Louie's wore a cape with heels and mostly nailed it.
You're just afraid to work and experiment with the realities of your body and what works on it visually.
The thing i like about this outfit is the dark esthetic with a sharp profile. Rounding it out wouldn't be as cool imo and adding embellishments to mimic the sharp angles would make it over sized.
On the one hand: It's downright regal and impressive. Imposing, even.
On the other: I don't own enough land, or run enough countries, to pull this look off.
For a fun photoshoot, sure, but we'd better have other costumed people and a movie set to contextualize it as something wholly fictional and otherworldly. Otherwise, as this thread illustrates, people are going to draw their own conclusions and they're not all going to be nice.
Eh, I'd say it just takes the right event. Beers with the boys at the blue-collar bar? Probably a bad idea. Any event that says 'semi-formal' to 'formal'? Fuck it, we ball.
men "abandoned their claim to be considered beautiful" and "henceforth aimed at being only useful".[3] The Great Renunciation encouraged the establishment of the suit's monopoly on male dress codes at the beginning of the 19th century.
Btw, has this anime archetype a name? You know, with a weird hat and a saber or canons, usually a general or something, often a endboss, always dangerous.
This is pretty much the formal attire / fashion style from Code Geass, for the Brittanian royalty... but made for actual human beings with actual human being proportions/postures.
Somebody actually made a take on a formal empress dress for I guess CC?:
Let us not forget the GOAT of both fashion and being a shameless marketing insert, the OG squishmallow, CC's actual, one true love:
Cheese-kun.
(Brought to you by Pizza Hut, which somehow exists in Geass' widely divergent alt-history, don't think about it, just buy some pizza, and body sized plushie!)
Everyone around me has agreed that I NEED that outfit with the heraldry of my Houses on each shoulder and the pendant. I'm just not sure which House to give the pendant.
I could absolutely bullshit my way into a modern House with that outfit.
For anyone wondering, House Rice, House Wellington, and House Tudor. All broken from the main house in 1660 to 1670.
Good point. Not sure I could rise to that level of villainy either. You can't just go walking around in a getup like that if you're a mid level henchman.
Maybe not this particular getup but I remember seeing some earthy tone capes that looked a bit like what you'd expect Aragorn or the hobbits to be wearing, but not that similar that it looks like a cosplay, and those looked pretty comfy and practical (didn't drag on the floor).
late XIX early XX military fashion is so cool actually, idk. And this costume in particular is better than a plain classic men's wedding attire anyway. Like, women got all those different cool-looking wedding dresses, different forms, different shapes... And what men got? A plain effing classic suit, the same you'd wear to a business meeting. Yuck.
I think if we drop the Epaulettes and Chains maybe we could figure something more generally acceptable out. What do we think of an asymmetrical cape and left arm embellished black Pauldron?
Normalize male fashion that isn't boring
that's just a royaltyslop version of the great male renunciation. we can go better once we get the guillotines
I'm not going to ignore fancy royal shit. I want to embrace it. I want to normalize fancy shit as a way for people to build a unique and definable personal fashion statement. The rich like it because it's inaccessible to the hoi poloi and the poors.
I want to infringe on their culture. Appropriate it for us normal people. Make the fashion of the rich pivot to something minimal and encourage them to really pull back because there is nothing they can do except spend more to get less. I want to rob the rich of all their comforts starting with how they see themselves.
do it, feel free to ad more colours and flare.
claps you make me wish i could really sew.
Youtube videos to learn and estate and garage sales for the sewing machine. So many Nana's have a family that doesn't know how to use her well loved hobby machine.
Still better than a suit and tie. Also the guillotines got us into this situation in the first place. (Not that I want the kings back, just some of their fashion)
didn't the Great male renunciation started by British royalty? seems like guillotines could have saved us.
Beau fucking Brummel.
I thought that it was after the French decided that their kings were to pompous and started wearing military outfits (after the king mysteriously disappeared). I could be wrong tho, the British royals could use some less gold.
thought it started with Victorian England. I'm too tired to double check or get in a rabbit hole right now. either way the guillotine is worth a try
Men, get yourself a male corset. You can thank me later.
For anyone with mild dyslexia: corset and escort are not the same
True, but you're allowed to have both.
It's going to either be useless or uncomfortable. That's a no for me dawg
They're quite comfortable. Can be too warm in the summer.
I mean either it is shaping you and that's gonna be uncomfortable or they're not in which case... what's the point
It tends to force good posture.
Just try one. There's some fairly affordable ones on Aliexpress.
I'm good
Burn George Brummel at the stake
Client: Hey I’m a villain in an anime setting who is looking to intimidate an everyman protagonist.
Tailor: Will you be saying “Muhaha?”
Client: Oh most definitely.
Tailor: Better add the cape then.
Oh man, did you know that the capes thing was actually in-world propaganda/disinformation in the movies? Syndrome killed all the people listed as having cape accidents, so it was like a go-to coverup that they died in cape related ways, like the people making the cover stories didn't have the creativity to come up with anything else. And it just ended up making capes seem like a bad idea.
Wait, does the movie actually show that? Are any of the same heroes cited by Edna as cape accidents also shown in Syndrome's database as being killed by him instead?
Yeah, it doesn't point it out, but if you check the names, they are all there.
This got me curious enough to go re-watch the scenes involved. The five supers Edna names are not shown in Syndrome's records (at least not the ones Bob looks up).
Ah, nevermind then. I was taking it on word from someone else. Guess I shouldn't do that, even for something that would be weird to make up.
Always remember that people can just go on the internet and say shit.
Is this image playing at about 396fps, or is my lemmy browsing app not able to handle this image right?
This reminds me of this Georgian wedding attire:
I too need a vest of throwing knives.
Every girl's crazy about a sharp dressed man.
hahahaha nice
The man's coat is some variation of the traditional go-to celebratory attire of Georgia and other Caucasian cultures. Originally also used as a military garb, afaik, if not an everyday dress even. It's called chokha or cherkeska.
I love that Americans think Caucasians means white people. Actually, scratch that, I hate it because it’s based on 19th Century pseudo-scientific nonsense that literally claims that “mongoloid” is a sub-race of humanity.
That's one of the reasons but there's also the fact that we had no fucking clue where white people were from and most of the oldest artifacts from before the Iron Curtain were found in the Caucasian mountains. Given that the Hittites were the oldest known and best researched Indo-European group and their proximity to the Caucasian mountains you end up with a bit of a weird bias.
While a lot of this shit has origins in 1800s racism the ones that stuck around did so because of long term misunderstandings. There was also a short lived hypothesis that different "races" evolved from different species of ape, though that one didn't survive particularly long.
It's not our fault, all our standardized tests growing up had us pick that bubble if we were white and it never came up anywhere else.
I would like both these outfits please.
Square Enix has entered the Fashion Industry.
Invest in belt stocks, hurry!
“Do you take your spouse until the end of time? As your final relationship? Your final fantasy?”
This is also my dream.
Wanna just do it?
I sent this to my friend along with a message about how much I’d love to see men start wearing this sort of thing, and his response was nothing but “that would get so dirty”
😭 quit being practical! Get it professionally cleaned between use, like a tux! Rent it or smth! Wedding dresses drag on the floor too, but you, the man, are too good to get dirty?????
Smdh.
I wore a cape to university one day as a bit. A guy in a passing car threw a drink at me in protest.
I'm not saying he was wrong, but I am sorry it happened. If it helps, someone once threw a kebab at me in a passing car. It was mixed grill.
Damn, that’s expensive
I know!
Bon appetite!
That sucks. People suck. How’s men’s fashion ever going to improve if people are so shit about anything outside the norm?
Isn't it the thing about fashion that it never improves, just endlessly changes? So men's fashion, not changing, has simply left the wheel of samsara.
I feel at one with my dad jeans with holes in them, and t-shirt with a jumper that should have probably been washed a few days ago
I do larp, so I wear an above average number of capes and cloaks. It's super inconvenient, but at historically capes would end up at the lowest around your calves, because yeah this gets dirty.
And historically, that meant you'd drag it through literal shit that was in every street, not just road-dirt. It would get destroyed pretty quickly too. Also, as a dutch person, capes have the problem of not letting your a bike, which is a terrible thing of course.
I'm not going to lie. I love it.
ty for being honest.
I’d love to marry a dude rocking this. He better walk down the aisle too tho
Walk nothing. I'll be on a palanquin carried by my groomsmen.
are they in formal attire or just a loincloth as is custom?
It's a formal occasion so loincloths, French cuffs (not the shirt, just the cuffs), and bowties. And formal sandals.
That's called Chippendales.
Okay then
I never saw Chip, Dale, Monterey Jack, Gadget, or Zipper dressed like that.
Foreal dude, this is savage
We’re still slowly working our way out of a doldrums era where male clothing has to be undecorative and functional. C’mon lads, we can do this! Let’s peacock again.
DANDY TIME
The only thing I could pull off with that outfit is the hairstyle.
Ahh to be overweight and the ability to make anything seemingly cool look like a holloween costume.
There are options, you just need a different cut.
This, OP's image, wouldn't work for me. Not saying there isn't anything that might be as cool. Im thinking, full mech suit.
I think I saw something with an older Orson Welles in something kinda similar a step or two less dramatic. English noblemen wore something less embellished for a while. I think one of the Louie's wore a cape with heels and mostly nailed it.
You're just afraid to work and experiment with the realities of your body and what works on it visually.
The thing i like about this outfit is the dark esthetic with a sharp profile. Rounding it out wouldn't be as cool imo and adding embellishments to mimic the sharp angles would make it over sized.
There's options, man.
Yes, mech suit. Im ready.
Gives real gonna get shot in Sarajewo vibes.
So if you're lonely, you know I'm here waiting for you / I'm just a cross-hair, I'm just a shot away from you
Bulletproof capes when?
Okay which manhua is this outfit from?
You can't see it but it's probably got little belts just above the biceps.
On the one hand: It's downright regal and impressive. Imposing, even.
On the other: I don't own enough land, or run enough countries, to pull this look off.
For a fun photoshoot, sure, but we'd better have other costumed people and a movie set to contextualize it as something wholly fictional and otherworldly. Otherwise, as this thread illustrates, people are going to draw their own conclusions and they're not all going to be nice.
Eh, I'd say it just takes the right event. Beers with the boys at the blue-collar bar? Probably a bad idea. Any event that says 'semi-formal' to 'formal'? Fuck it, we ball.
Looks cool, but I've got my heart set on "sexy clown."
let's normalize this nice ass shit as normal man clothes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Male_Renunciation
Goddamnit, I just watched a video yesterday where this topic was mentioned and now I see it everywhere
The Baader-Meinhof phenomenon.
Because it's time for a counterrenunciation! ![email protected]
TIL thank you.
maybe we need an unrenunciation.
While that does look awesome, it also looks incredibly high-maintenance and hot. I'll stick to jeans, thanks.
It does look hot!
And $$$
And the cape would get stuck in car doors, office chairs, etc. Seems like a royal nuisance.
I mean ... it's late fall. "hot" isn't exactly a huge issue right now. Dare I say, this actually looks too cold? A warm coat would ruin the look.
Btw, has this anime archetype a name? You know, with a weird hat and a saber or canons, usually a general or something, often a endboss, always dangerous.
They give me vibes of Western European (French and Spanish) high-ranking Naval dress in the 1700-1800s, just embellished and almost caricatured.
Between what?
What is life and love if not a permadeath game of Fire Emblem with me as the caped protagonist and my wife, the canonical love interest.
Anime villain look
From the Millardo Peacecraft collection we offer Zech's very own wedding cape.
Thank you. I was struggling to figure out which anime this reminded me of the most.
Say what you want about Zechs, but he really made that neo-regency (?) style work.
The Legend of the Galactic Heroes collection. For when you absolutely have to upstage the bride.
Right. My "marriage". It's the costume that's the problem.
Definitely need to marry an anime obsessed girl, for this and all the other reasons.
Although I personally am not a cape kind of guy, I will readily admit that this looks damn good
Its ok, we can start you off with an overcoat/duster/trenchcoat/peacoat, much more stereotypically masculine, more practical.
This is pretty much the formal attire / fashion style from Code Geass, for the Brittanian royalty... but made for actual human beings with actual human being proportions/postures.
Somebody actually made a take on a formal empress dress for I guess CC?:
That's crazy I saw this post and immediately thought Code Geass as well
Let us not forget the GOAT of both fashion and being a shameless marketing insert, the OG squishmallow, CC's actual, one true love:
Cheese-kun.
(Brought to you by Pizza Hut, which somehow exists in Geass' widely divergent alt-history, don't think about it, just buy some pizza, and body sized plushie!)
Holy drama.
Everyone around me has agreed that I NEED that outfit with the heraldry of my Houses on each shoulder and the pendant. I'm just not sure which House to give the pendant.
I could absolutely bullshit my way into a modern House with that outfit.
For anyone wondering, House Rice, House Wellington, and House Tudor. All broken from the main house in 1660 to 1670.
Go on ...
Fuck it if men don't want capes I'm taking them. Theyre too god looking to be gendered anyways.
It's not that men don't want capes. We're just not sure we're enough of a superhero to wear them :'(
Someone wearing that cape is not a superhero. Villans always get the beat outfits after all.
Good point. Not sure I could rise to that level of villainy either. You can't just go walking around in a getup like that if you're a mid level henchman.
According to edna its a bad idea. Gets snagged to often.
Maybe not this particular getup but I remember seeing some earthy tone capes that looked a bit like what you'd expect Aragorn or the hobbits to be wearing, but not that similar that it looks like a cosplay, and those looked pretty comfy and practical (didn't drag on the floor).
That's the most beautifully gender-neutral item of clothing I have ever seen
Reminds me of the clothes in otome isekais
This is my dream.
It's cool and all, but a little too...
early 20th century...
german military for my tastes...
late XIX early XX military fashion is so cool actually, idk. And this costume in particular is better than a plain classic men's wedding attire anyway. Like, women got all those different cool-looking wedding dresses, different forms, different shapes... And what men got? A plain effing classic suit, the same you'd wear to a business meeting. Yuck.
I think if we drop the Epaulettes and Chains maybe we could figure something more generally acceptable out. What do we think of an asymmetrical cape and left arm embellished black Pauldron?
sound like you're describing Ezio's attire lol
still way cooler than whatever we have now
whatever floats your boat bro
If you dont get married, you have a financial firewall for when the Healthcare system comes to suck you dry like the vampire it is.
You don't need that in civilized countries
Coward. Your gender are all¹ fucking cowards!
Except the guy pictured wearing this in another reply
I meant for daily wear!
Sure, let's make wedding industry even more expensive, we've all got cash to spare.
Idk personally im not a fan of monarchist clothes, granted im also not a fan of the capitalist suit
I like shorts and flipflops and don't care what government or economic structure that's from.
Same :3
(Unless its tech bro style shorts)
It's clearly meant for an campily arch anime villain, mwahaha