Omg I hated that showā¦ Iād like that saw the bit in Queer as Folk that was amazing at being super critical of commercializing gayness and they decided to make a show out of it like āwait, but what if we could actually make a shit ton of money off of stereotypes?ā
That's fine, but having heard so many times from openly gay people statements like the following, and I quote,
"Gay."
"That is SO gay."
"Gay."
"Gay!"
"Oh. Yeah. Gay."
. . . you have to accept that at a certain level of commentary, the call is coming from inside the house.
TL;DR: I don't know what looks gay because I am some self-proclaimed cis-het expert on gayness; I know what might look gay because I was personally tutored by obviously authentic experts in the field. Just sayin.
Gay folks can be edgy shitheads too, though. I would not let any of my queer friends get away with using the word "gay" as a pejorative. I'm not asking that you push back against them, just understand why I choose to do even if you don't.
Gay folks can be edgy shitheads too, though. I would not let any of my queer friends get away with using the word āgayā as a pejorative. Iām not asking that you push back against them, just understand why I choose to do even if you donāt.
Not every gay person is a self-loather, kid.
Note: I had deleted my two comments because I genuinely did not want to offend, but when I realized that these "gay" observations, made by men my age who are simply glad to still be standing after the debacle that was the latter part of the last century, were being taken for internalized homophobia I put my comments right back. If anything they are celebratory and may they ever be so. Given what these guys have survived they have every right to be happy, and as far as I am concerned so does every gay person. Nothing wrong with being gay at all, and never has been.
So you need to sit down with that self-hating shit, because it does NOT apply to Every Gay Person Ever.
I am gay, i have great taste. I consider myself in the know enough to inform you not all gay people have good taste. Some have no taste. Some have bad taste. Some have really bad taste. There is this bias thing going on where you only notice the times your belief is confirmed. And yes, many people with great taste are gay. But there are exceptions. Some people with great taste aren't even the slightest bit gay. Not sure about Trump though. I consider him someone who definitely has a taste. And all the gold is quite gay. The amount of gold in his penthouses is so extreme it must be some sort of kink. It's beyond overcompensation. Him being gay would explain a lot.
Trump's (and Roger Stone's) political mentor was notorious mob lawyer and gay homophobe Roy Cohn, whose death by AIDS was dramatized in the acclaimed 90s play Angels in America.
Cohn, and conservatives in general, always denied that he was gay, rationalizing that he only enjoyed sexually dominating young blonde men. That wasn't the same as being gay. Okaaaay...
Bottom line is that at the time of their mentorship with Cohn, both Trump and Stone were young blonde men.
Didn't he like specifically take over managing what productions happened at the Kennedy Center or whatever to have them do his preferred musicals? Or am I tripping? i swear I remember something like that happening.
Has anyone ever encountered the concept of Bisexuality on this website?
Also I don't think he paints his living spaces in Gold because he's queer. I think he does it because he's an arsehole who wants to appear like a Pre-revolution French Monarch or Middle Eastern Dictator. He's extra in that sense and queer in the sense he has no picture in his Grindr profile and randomly sends twinks dick pics when he's not on the Deep web.
Do you know how misshapen and lumpy Trump's body is? That man's tailor is a miracle worker to turn that into "wtf is that" into merely "oh, the suit looks too big".
Ok, fair point. But again, his taste is horrible. I've seen gay people with a taste far from mine, but usually they have an eye for it and it makes sense. With Donny, it doesn't and it's just cheap and bad.
That 10% thing was made up by someone in the dark 80s, and it just happened to spread afterwards. tbh I donāt think anyone ever counted gayness scientifically and Iām not sure if itās even possible.
You can't project the % of gay people in the whole population onto the people in the position of president. Less then 2% of all US presidents werd black for example. Or maybe an even more obvious example, there haven't been 23 female presidents.
I start to get tired of these jokes, if they are jokes at all. What's to get from them, with them? While I don't think it hurts his base at all, it does occupy others and stirs some of them wrong. Like that meme playing into the stereotype of gay people being grotesque and shallow movie-esque characters. Playing with that bone thrown to non-believers is not productive, even Epsteing files are irrelevant because him sucking off Clinton or diddling kids in the past does nothing to his current reign, destruction of economy, mass imprisonment. He can eat a cock, a pussy, or shoot a person on Main St., but nevertheless the damage he does right now, his cult and his friendly elites are what really matters. His supposed blowjob is a nothing-burger, but also a cutting board to break lemmy-like communities around how homophobic these, present assumptions are, and they do sound ill-biased.
That group of men who were probably gay yet had turbulent relations with women.
Roy Cohn had several girlfriends and apparently thought about proposing to Barbara Walters. Everything points to him being gay. He was a bullying, brilliant sociopath. Helped out significantly with McCarthyism.
Trump. Just seems to use women, talks trashy about them, but canāt seem to have a decent relationship with a single one. Narcissistic sociopath, definitely not brilliant. Anti-socialist at least.
Possibly John Wayne. Beat the crap out of women, with several relationships and wives. Loved hanging out with men (John Ford and his buddies) Rabid anti-communist, also supporting McCarthyās Red Scare.
Wonder how many other men were internally and externally destructive thanks to being forced into societyās mold in conflict with who they really were.
::: spoiler Transcription
When you accept him as gay, the hair, makeup, ballroom, and Liberace-themed decorations suddenly makes a lot more sense.
[A picture of Trump and Zelensky meeting in the Oval Office, in a wide photo showing the background filled with an ornately-decorated background including portraits of former US Presidents in gold-trimmed frames, a fireplace with many ornate golden trophies displayed on the mantelpiece, and other bright gold decorations.]
:::
We just have to accept it! Trump is our first LGBTQ president. He just happens to be the closeted kind. So at every moment where their secret could come out, they double it down on lies and deception. Not everyone is like that, but I can see why. I've heard that Hitler was also a gay person.
And I heard on NPR last night that he had a micropenis and undecended testicles. This doesn't make you or anyone a bad person at all. What is relevant is that we're all suffering due to the personal suffering and vendettas that some random asshole has.
Well I got down voted. But this might be an unfortunate truth and we're missing it. Trump is at least bisexual if he's giving blow jobs on the side. And he obviously doesn't want us all to know about it.
I'm looking forward to someone at some point taking a photo or video at the decisive moment when orange man realizes he is truly gay, unique and the president of the God damn United States. As a gay or bisexual man he could unify the country and truly make America great again (assuming he's fucked it up real good so far, which is a good assumption). Please be bi! Please be bi! Please come out as bi! He's got 3 more years as president and just possibly just a handful more as a human bean. He has the potential to uplift us instead of antagonize us. All he has to do is realize he's gay or bisexual and tell us all about it after he pardons himself again for abusing underaged people.
The ones I know? Ok they arent. But I have seen and interacted with plenty of gay senior citizens. Probably have over 15 years working a couple blocks over from my cities gayborhood. Even the ones who arent dressed to the nines have nice haircuts.
I thought gay people were supposed to have good taste
Normally yes but he might be a closeted/selfhating boomer
You ever go so deep in the closet that you give Bill Clinton a blowjob? Hate it when that happens
He found a gloryhole at the back of the closet
I think it's why Liberace was mentioned. In the closet and (what I would describe) as gay with bad taste.
he was gorgeous baby
Please stop stereotyping us like this. We are not all a bunch of fucking Queer Eye characters.
Omg I hated that showā¦ Iād like that saw the bit in Queer as Folk that was amazing at being super critical of commercializing gayness and they decided to make a show out of it like āwait, but what if we could actually make a shit ton of money off of stereotypes?ā
That's fine, but having heard so many times from openly gay people statements like the following, and I quote,
"Gay."
"That is SO gay."
"Gay."
"Gay!"
"Oh. Yeah. Gay."
. . . you have to accept that at a certain level of commentary, the call is coming from inside the house.
TL;DR: I don't know what looks gay because I am some self-proclaimed cis-het expert on gayness; I know what might look gay because I was personally tutored by obviously authentic experts in the field. Just sayin.
Gay folks can be edgy shitheads too, though. I would not let any of my queer friends get away with using the word "gay" as a pejorative. I'm not asking that you push back against them, just understand why I choose to do even if you don't.
Not every gay person is a self-loather, kid.
Note: I had deleted my two comments because I genuinely did not want to offend, but when I realized that these "gay" observations, made by men my age who are simply glad to still be standing after the debacle that was the latter part of the last century, were being taken for internalized homophobia I put my comments right back. If anything they are celebratory and may they ever be so. Given what these guys have survived they have every right to be happy, and as far as I am concerned so does every gay person. Nothing wrong with being gay at all, and never has been.
So you need to sit down with that self-hating shit, because it does NOT apply to Every Gay Person Ever.
I am gay, i have great taste. I consider myself in the know enough to inform you not all gay people have good taste. Some have no taste. Some have bad taste. Some have really bad taste. There is this bias thing going on where you only notice the times your belief is confirmed. And yes, many people with great taste are gay. But there are exceptions. Some people with great taste aren't even the slightest bit gay. Not sure about Trump though. I consider him someone who definitely has a taste. And all the gold is quite gay. The amount of gold in his penthouses is so extreme it must be some sort of kink. It's beyond overcompensation. Him being gay would explain a lot.
Only bubba had good taste.
Just some context:
Trump's (and Roger Stone's) political mentor was notorious mob lawyer and gay homophobe Roy Cohn, whose death by AIDS was dramatized in the acclaimed 90s play Angels in America.
Cohn, and conservatives in general, always denied that he was gay, rationalizing that he only enjoyed sexually dominating young blonde men. That wasn't the same as being gay. Okaaaay...
Bottom line is that at the time of their mentorship with Cohn, both Trump and Stone were young blonde men.
Do with this information what you will.
This could also explain the diapers.
Liberace was great on the piano. Sucked on the organ.
Ba dum-tss
https://youtu.be/8eXj97stbG8
the actor in me loves it. the musician in me is horrified.
Not to mention his obsession with The Village People.
Musicals too right?
Musicalsā¦ probably not so much. But that odd little ādanceā move where it looks like heās entertaining 2 well endowed gentlemenā¦
Didn't he like specifically take over managing what productions happened at the Kennedy Center or whatever to have them do his preferred musicals? Or am I tripping? i swear I remember something like that happening.
Feels like I'm back in the early aughts with all the homophobia and tired, moronic gay stereotypes in this thread.
Fuck everything about all of this.
So an lgbt person is not allowed to make these jokes about a man who has treated the lgbt like enemies?
Cause if a homophobe is gonna get mad cause I called him a cocksucker, im gonna happily keep calling him that just to piss him off
Fucking right
He also gets mad if you call him a paedo, and thats actually a bad thing to be though...
This itās like when a white persona tells me to stop making jokes about Latinos, even though Iām Latino.
In what way?
I find that a lot of straight liberals will practically foam at the mouth to identify a Bad removed that they can be homophobic towards.
Remember all of those homoerotic images of Trump and Putin that libs loved to be openly disgusted by?
Has anyone ever encountered the concept of Bisexuality on this website?
Also I don't think he paints his living spaces in Gold because he's queer. I think he does it because he's an arsehole who wants to appear like a Pre-revolution French Monarch or Middle Eastern Dictator. He's extra in that sense and queer in the sense he has no picture in his Grindr profile and randomly sends twinks dick pics when he's not on the Deep web.
He even got the most enthusiastic beard he could find
I mean I definitely canāt imagine him loving a woman (ew gay, right fellas?)
Heās a manās man through and through
He's a real manly man, you little boys just wouldn't understand
We're manly men. Men in tights!
Tight tights!
We roam around the forest / looking for fights!
'fights'
Yeah he's a man. Till you say something he don't like and all his toys are out the pram. But that's a man, innit?
He likes women (well, little girls) too, he's bi. But we don't want him
I think he only loves himself. Homoerotic levels of narcissism for sure.
No they don't.
Gay people generally have taste.
Homophobia but it is drumph
Y'all can do better than this. 0 stars.
Itās not that heās gay, itās that heās tacky and rich.
nope, he's bi
he raped women
Rape is about dominance and power. If a guy rapes another guy in Prison, that doesnāt mean heās gay.
men wanting dominance over other men sounds quite gay
Girls too.
By "women" I meant people who are female
Not age-specific
But yes
He hates Hillary so much because Bill married her.
No they don't. Usually gay people have taste and eye for fashion. They wouldn't wear suits too big or decorate like this tacky monstrosity.
Do you know how misshapen and lumpy Trump's body is? That man's tailor is a miracle worker to turn that into "wtf is that" into merely "oh, the suit looks too big".
Ok, fair point. But again, his taste is horrible. I've seen gay people with a taste far from mine, but usually they have an eye for it and it makes sense. With Donny, it doesn't and it's just cheap and bad.
Thereās plenty of gays with terrible fashion sense.
To be honest, I never truly believed that the Republicans would be the first party to elect a president who sucks cock.
Actually, there have been stories about Abe Lincoln for years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_of_Abraham_Lincoln
Isnāt the stat for any population something like 10%? So it would likely be more than just him.
That 10% thing was made up by someone in the dark 80s, and it just happened to spread afterwards. tbh I donāt think anyone ever counted gayness scientifically and Iām not sure if itās even possible.
You can't project the % of gay people in the whole population onto the people in the position of president. Less then 2% of all US presidents werd black for example. Or maybe an even more obvious example, there haven't been 23 female presidents.
That's an interesting read. Thanks for the link
Lincoln was a republican right?
Lincoln was a champion wrestler, so I'd be careful making jokes.
No one wants to get choke slammed by a ghost.
https://nwhof.org/hall_of_fame/bio/128
i beg to differ
Wrong clip
maybe your games with ghosts have less slime?
Nah keep that boy straight, we don't claim the tangerine fĆ¼hrer
I start to get tired of these jokes, if they are jokes at all. What's to get from them, with them? While I don't think it hurts his base at all, it does occupy others and stirs some of them wrong. Like that meme playing into the stereotype of gay people being grotesque and shallow movie-esque characters. Playing with that bone thrown to non-believers is not productive, even Epsteing files are irrelevant because him sucking off Clinton or diddling kids in the past does nothing to his current reign, destruction of economy, mass imprisonment. He can eat a cock, a pussy, or shoot a person on Main St., but nevertheless the damage he does right now, his cult and his friendly elites are what really matters. His supposed blowjob is a nothing-burger, but also a cutting board to break lemmy-like communities around how homophobic these, present assumptions are, and they do sound ill-biased.
Man, imagine being Bill Clinton. He may become the first person to get two different presidents impeached because he got a blow job.
Double barrel Bill
And the dick sucking
And the wife who doesn't want to be there.
Donāt forget his love of the Village People.
I knew a few people who are gay and none of them have felt the need to redecorate their house in incredibly tacky gold leaf.
So heās intrinsically homosexual but enough of a sociopath to rape teenage girls just for the dominance kick?
Has anyone on this god forsaken earth ever heard of Bisexuality?
No us bisexuals don't exist
Narrator Tidus: "I had forgotten... about bisexuality"
Please stop trying to humanize that douchebag who never should've been born.
Do you think gay people somehow lack the ability to be cartoonishly evil sociopaths? I assure you, they do not.
Peter fucking Thiel, Jesus Christ.
Underage girls do look more like men than adult women do. ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
South park had it right all along with Mr.Garrison. as the 2016 president š
Which season/episode was that? I haven't seen it yet.
The most recent season that came out this year.
Thanks, I'll look for it.
That group of men who were probably gay yet had turbulent relations with women.
Roy Cohn had several girlfriends and apparently thought about proposing to Barbara Walters. Everything points to him being gay. He was a bullying, brilliant sociopath. Helped out significantly with McCarthyism.
Trump. Just seems to use women, talks trashy about them, but canāt seem to have a decent relationship with a single one. Narcissistic sociopath, definitely not brilliant. Anti-socialist at least.
Possibly John Wayne. Beat the crap out of women, with several relationships and wives. Loved hanging out with men (John Ford and his buddies) Rabid anti-communist, also supporting McCarthyās Red Scare.
Wonder how many other men were internally and externally destructive thanks to being forced into societyās mold in conflict with who they really were.
::: spoiler Transcription When you accept him as gay, the hair, makeup, ballroom, and Liberace-themed decorations suddenly makes a lot more sense.
[A picture of Trump and Zelensky meeting in the Oval Office, in a wide photo showing the background filled with an ornately-decorated background including portraits of former US Presidents in gold-trimmed frames, a fireplace with many ornate golden trophies displayed on the mantelpiece, and other bright gold decorations.] :::
all jokes aside, i'm not sure krasnov views others as human. i'm not sure there's a paraphilia for that.
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I wouldn't say gay. I would say drag queen. The overdone makeup and hair are a dead give away.
Okay, but aside from maybe like the few women drag queens, how often you finding one that isnāt the gayest man youād ever meet?
The gay people I know do things tastefully (looks, perfume, design). So I doubt it.
Please stop stereotyping us like this. We are not all a bunch of fucking Queer Eye characters.
i try hard not to stereotype.
In your defense, you did say the gay people you know.
I did that on purpose, because, as I stated, I do try not to stereotype.
You failed
No
In my experience gay people usually have a better taste, not this shallow, birdlike love for shiny things. Still a freak!
Heās definitely a Proud Boy.
Tacky cunt
I found a photo of him at the weekly meeting of the āfellated bill clintonā support group. Trump is the only one who misses that Arkansas sausage.
No matter. He's a POS, pedo is more important.
We just have to accept it! Trump is our first LGBTQ president. He just happens to be the closeted kind. So at every moment where their secret could come out, they double it down on lies and deception. Not everyone is like that, but I can see why. I've heard that Hitler was also a gay person.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_of_Adolf_Hitler
And I heard on NPR last night that he had a micropenis and undecended testicles. This doesn't make you or anyone a bad person at all. What is relevant is that we're all suffering due to the personal suffering and vendettas that some random asshole has.
Wasn't Abram Lincoln suspected of being a lil' bit gay?
Possibly?
Well I got down voted. But this might be an unfortunate truth and we're missing it. Trump is at least bisexual if he's giving blow jobs on the side. And he obviously doesn't want us all to know about it.
Oh, here's an upvote, friend. At least you're now breaking even. š
Also, if he's bisexual, I'm not claiming him. I'm also disowning Alex Jones, who is possibly bisexual and into swinging.
Alright sounds good.
I'm looking forward to someone at some point taking a photo or video at the decisive moment when orange man realizes he is truly gay, unique and the president of the God damn United States. As a gay or bisexual man he could unify the country and truly make America great again (assuming he's fucked it up real good so far, which is a good assumption). Please be bi! Please be bi! Please come out as bi! He's got 3 more years as president and just possibly just a handful more as a human bean. He has the potential to uplift us instead of antagonize us. All he has to do is realize he's gay or bisexual and tell us all about it after he pardons himself again for abusing underaged people.
If he came out he would win quite a few confused LGBT votes and lose quite a bit of conservative votes that are also confused
Ok, but he needs a white suit with a cape and tassels.
How is the hair gay? Most gay dudes I know have great cuts.
Might be because the gay dudes you know are not his age
The ones I know? Ok they arent. But I have seen and interacted with plenty of gay senior citizens. Probably have over 15 years working a couple blocks over from my cities gayborhood. Even the ones who arent dressed to the nines have nice haircuts.
True, but how will you explain the stench?
I knew it! That's why he makes Melania wear those men's hats! /s
*bi
...omg it makes sense! š¤Æ
cringe homophobia