Palantir CEO slams 'parasitic' critics calling the tech a surveillance tool: 'Not only is patriotism right, patriotism will make you rich'
Palantir CEO Alex Karp is sick and tired of his critics. That much is clear. But during the Yahoo Finance Invest Conference Thursday, he escalated his counteroffensive, aimed squarely at analysts, journalists, and political commentators who have long attacked the company as a symbol of an encroaching surveillance state, or as overvalued.
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Billionaire says this. Billionaire says that. I don't give a fuck what this parasite says. Him and others like him will face their reckoning day.
Hmmm yes, the OLIGARKHALSHUGGARE
Palantir is a multinational data capture and analytics company.
What exactly is he/it being patriotic to? The US? If so, the company should be banned everywhere else in the world.
Murdering Palestinians with Palantir enabled kill-chains in military networking solutions.
That kind of Patriotism.
Welcome to Year Zero.
To himself obviously. You can even feel the narcissism coming from his fucking face.
Israel
Palantir sounds like it could a russian multinational data capture and analytics company.
Does this make any sense at all? Even if they were able to make it the U.S. never needs to "project force", how does that have any bearing on preventing abuse or the U.S. becoming a surveillance state.
Preventing abuse by giving them everything they want, so they don't get mad and start abusing all of the stuff that was just given to them.
Exactly. It's a power move to change the subject. Imagine addressing people's issues... you're just sitting in their domain. You have to change what people are talking about too. He doesn't need to keep defending against X, Y, and Z if we start attacking his idea of "the greater good" and "agentic force projection."
Leeching off a dying empire with miltech... Now who's the real parasite Alex?
There is nothing patriotic about spying on your neighbors, I thought we learned that several times already.
Ah yes, the old slap some, "patriotic" shit on it.
A word I've been tired of for about 20 years now. I remember once all the bush s*** happened after 9:11 in the invasion of Iraq, Patriot became the new badge of honor of morons.
I remember actually having a few conversations or even debates with people over politics and then suddenly they would shout "what, you don't think I'm a fucking patriot?"
What boring dystopia we've been in for the past couple of decades.
These people remind me of the men who love their family enough to kill or die for them, but not enough to carry their weight in chores, to show vulnerability, to sincerely listen when needs are expressed…
To these patriots the nation is something to kill and die for. It's about big displays of badassery. They aren't willing to volunteer for their country, to give up a portion of their money to ensure everyone eats and gets medicine, to live with uncertainty so that all accused people have their rights respected or so that convicted people have the chance to demonstrate rehabilitation. Their love is tied to machismo, and just as they are bad parents, they too are bad citizens.
Let's be honest. These knobs aren't typically fighting or dying for anything.
Oh absolutely not, they're all talk. But, I do think it's worth speaking as if they were honest here because so fucking what. You'll die for your kid but you won't volunteer at their school or be a scoutmaster or anything like that? A dad isn't a soldier, a dad is a parent, and parents are supposed to be involved in their kids' lives and actively teaching them how to become well adjusted adults
Yup. Being a dad is 100% the most important and involved thing I've ever done.
Violating everyone's 4th amendment rights is unpatriotic
But is it very fascist, and that’s so hot right now.
But didn't you hear, he is making money from it so he should be entitled to continue
"Stop calling it surveillance" These people would be so funny if they didn't have such a negative impact on millions of people
Fortune gives Karp soapbox from which to say whatever he wants, unchallenged. Eventually, though, they get to..
Then, at last, they finally demonstrate some journalistic Integrity and rebut his statement with why those groups make those accusations.... Oh, wait, no they don't. They just end the article with one final quote from him that could just as easily have been from Hitler.
Disgusting scumbag. Fuck off and die.
I’m getting so sick and fucking tired of people tying earnings potential to whether something is good or bad. Same thing with tying wealth to intelligence. It is so monumentally stupid and shortsighted.
This company should be dismantled and Thiel and Karp should be arrested for violations of our fourth amendment rights. Treason. Prosecute to fullest extent of the law
We'll need to ask them if they'd like to waive any other rights along with their fourth. Like maybe their eighth
What? Criminal scum complains about being called criminal scum?
Remind me to never let the people I live with buy a ring camera.
I moved out of my parent’s house a couple years ago because of their cameras everywhere. I had zero privacy.
I'm pretty sure that goes both ways.
I used to think I couldn't hate anyone more than Peter Thiel, but I fucking hate this guy so much.
He reports to Theil. He's just his mouthpiece.
“Patriotism will make you rich.”
If you can’t smell the grift and propaganda coming off of this pile of shit then you’re a dangerously stupid human being.
Patriotic nationalism is a religion that worships dirt.
Surveillance can only ever be used for oppression.
Financial obesity is neurotoxic.
What an asshole. If the same thing that makes your government powerful also makes your government evil, than supporting that thing does not make you a patriot, it makes you a fascist.
Yeah that fucking logic was so goddamn backwards and moronic I couldn’t even stomach it
Why do those billionaires keep bothering us workers?
So they can extract more money from us. In this case in the form of taxes we'll pay so that we can be constantly monitored.
Punchable face.
More like no morals makes you rich. Evil and money are on the same side of the coin in this presidency.
I am completely ok with putting multiple cameras in your (Alex's) home, work place and also making all your emails and messages public. All for the sake of patriotism ofcourse nothing else. Afterall if you have nothing to hide why wouldn't you be ok with people reading your emails.
The glorious nation demands to watch you shit. Glory to Amerikkka home of the patriotic camera.
Or you know if you love America you could remember that those who trade freedom for security deserve neither and that one of our fundamental rights is to privacy from the government.
Patriotism would be auto finding violations of the constitution and bringing up legal action for every one.
If we assess the amount of damage they are doing to society against the amount of benefit they bring .... I think you're in the clear.
It's aelf defense since they continue to make decisions that they know will kill people.
I’d argue it’s morally reprehensible NOT to exterminate these parasites.
It's morally wrong for Alex Karp to exist.
COVID missed a few assholes.
It's literally a tool specifically designed to accelerate and maintain fascism.
This dude looks like the villain of the last gen v season
Fascism and prosperity gospel, both are a circle on the Venn diagram.
Let's leverage the full capabilities of these "tools" to stalk, analyze, and publish whatever it finds on this little CEO, and see how "patriotic" he's feeling after like a week.
It's all "smart investing" and "patriotism" as long as it's used on somebody else.
Real patriotism would be mercilessly stamping out threats to The People's life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
Threats that these asshats and their toys embody without question.
FLAG!!!!
I have a colleague who invested in Palantir. I mentioned to him of the controversy with the company but he just shrugged it since he made some money before selling the shares. I don't really pass judgement on many those who invest in unethical companies simply because the old fashioned way of working and saving simply doesn't cut it anymore. The older generations could party and travel in their twenty's, and buy a house and have family in their thirty's. The younger generation can't really do that anymore.
I also do investing and I realised that it's hard to be ethical under a capitalist system. There are index funds I want to invest in because of lower initial investment requirement, but I don't like the companies listed in those funds. And thus I have to individually invest in companies I like, but I have little gains because my capital is spread out across various equities.
It's honestly kept me from investing at all. I know index funds are the way to go, but I can't in good conscience invest in these evil companies. I'd rather end up living in the street than sell my soul.
There is a workaround to the moral problem like hedging with CFD, because you don't technically own shares and thus not funding companies you dislike, you are simply betting on whether the company's share price will either go up or down. But as mentioned, it is leveraged and therefore betting and gambling. There is also holding fees which eats away at the profits in CFD.
Yeah the more complicated and "gamble-y" it gets the less interested I am.
Depending how one looks at it, even normal investing can be considered gambling. But at the very least, investing is not leveraged, and it is surer and more calculated risk than sports or race gambling. The latter is fixed because of behind the scenes corruption; but with investing, it's more regulated and so long as you invest in trustworthy companies, it'll be fine.
Sure, but for people like me who don't have the time/desire to research individual companies, index funds are the common suggestion. Which brings me to my original comment.
Why do they keep reporting what mirror dimension Taika Waititi said?
Hey Plantir, you keep saying fascism wrong
By patriotic, I guess he means taking money from Eppstein and Thiel and obtaining further funding from Israel to develop an application that is as unethical as possible? Unfortunately, this bastard is successful because there are influential people all over the world who think this is great - or they get payed to think so.
In Germany, for example, one federal state has just amended its police law to enforce the use of Palantir products against applicable law and, of course, against the will of the population – with the support even of (allegedly) leftwing parties whose voters strongly reject this. Well, you don't need to buy the voters, just a few politicians.
It is truly a shame what representative democracies have degenerated into due to the power of a few very influential and utterly unscrupulous billionaires.
No CEO is needed. He should become a better person and quit.
PUTS!
Can he be a victim to a hate crime please?
This dumb curly headed fuck can suck a bag of dicks.
Coked up like a child dizzy on lemonade