Deal to end government shutdown in reach
It sounds like a bunch of Democrats want to cave in exchange for no concessions whatsoever. Edit: Bloomberg has more details
Current likely Democratic votes for this:
- Shaheen - NH
- Hassan - NH
- King - ME
- Fetterman - PA
- Peters - MI
- Durbin - IL
- Warner - VA
- Kaine - VA
- Ossoff- GA
- Warnock - GA
If you want to change things, you need to call their DC office NOW, and leave an email if you can't.
Edit 2: enough Democrats joined the Republicans to reopen the government with no real concessions.
The list:
- Durbin
- Hassan
- King
- Cortez Masto
- Kaine
- Shaheen
- Rosen
- Fetterman
- Schumer
- Gillibrand
There was a caucus meeting right before this, so the bulk of the Senate Democrats were likely OK with giving in, even if not willing to vote for it in public
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Fetterman is a disgrace I flipping hate this dude
Hes not your enemy. If you're a constituent, he is your employee. Give his office a call and let them know how you expect him to perform.
Does calling his office actually do anything? Doesn't that require him not to be a traitor?
Calling Congress tends to result in a report from staff about constituent sentiment. It's a meaningful thing which can sometimes shift things on the margin — it's rarely enough on its own.
If they bother to pick up the phone. Which is more than I can say for my two senators.
Nothing wrong with showing up at their local office in person with a crowd. Ive done that before
Our their homes. At their kids birthday parties. Whatever it takes.
So I am one of Jeanne Shaheen's constituents (and, NH being a small state, I've met her more than once)
I just sent her office a constituent note
This letter is better written than 90% of politicans can speak.
We need more fucking leftists running for stuff. Local elections!
We MUST form the left Tea Party and fucking get rid of all the dead democratic weight that's blocking progress
Shaheen is more leftist than me
It’s not like I can tell him not to come into work on Monday and hire someone else
He is a disgrace and a disappointment. But, who was he running against? Oz. Oz didn't even live in the state who and was more pro-Trump than Fetterman the time. So, the choice was between overtly pro-Trump Oz who was living in New Jersey or Pa-living Fetterman who wasn't overtly pro-Trump until after the stroke.
You mean these Dems are in cahoots with the GOP. There's no fucking reason why to back down now when the pressure is on unless their handlers are telling them to.
TBH I think they are weighing the pain to their constituents of losing ACA benefits, versus shutting down air travel and tens of millions of hungry families.
It's pure evil but it's MAGA
Yes, but caving will still continue the decline. There is nothing to gain unless they make a deal with something to gain.
Like ACA.
I hate the Democrats so so much. They never fight. Every time it looks like they might fight, it turns out that they’re not fighting. Their relentless cowardice is why we have trump and the fascists dismantling everything and hurting people.
"Vote for the lesser evil"
But why vote for the lesser evil if the lesser evil will vote with the greater evil anyway?
Vote in the primaries. Get involved in local politics and find out who actually wants to help people, has good ideas, and has a proven track record in their community.
Elect the good leaders in your kid's PTO to the school board. Get to know your local scout council (both boy scouts and girl scouts), elect them to your city council. Follow your school board, city and county council, see what they are doing, who is actually helping the community with good ideas, and then send them to the state house, demand they continue to fight for the people. The good ones in your state house should go to the Capitol for no more than 3 terms, then they can come back to the state house to be the local senior leaders.
The problem is, no one does that first part where they pay attention to the local stuff, demanding local change and building local leaders and helping to ensure our candidates aren't evil.
As sad as it sounds, the race for President doesn’t seem to have the greatest impact on American lives.
The Democratic Primaries are where people should be focusing their efforts.
democrats will just move the goal posts in the primaries or run an additional 15 establishment candidates to split the vote and ensure nobody but the establishment ever wins. It's what they did to bernie.
they say not to vote 3rd party because it will "split the vote" but it's just projection. It's what they would do.
It's why Cuomo ran as an independent when he didn't win the nomination, and most were unwilling to back the actual nominee until the day of the election.
They will ratfuck you then wonder why no one likes them.
Not just the primaries! My city is pretty purple. We tend to vote republican by a slim majority in larger races (think 51/49), but in the mayor and city council race that just happened, the republican mayor won at like 66/33. Vote every chance or you cede your power to the people who do.
The fix is to start local. Bob's right: that school PTO experience will be on the candidate's bio when they run for mayor, even if they are the karen-est karen, and it will sway a few people. That (R) mayor has power over a huge amount of how the city is run and many of the things people are locally unhappy with are a direct result of them electing a rich asshole. If we elect Dems locally, we might be able to sway people to our side when the situation gets better under our leadership.
We individuals have the power but it's got a bit of a lag-time to it. Become informed about how the DNC structure works (best done by joining your local precinct, even if you do nothing more than joining a few meetings). The precincts vote for who runs the county, the counties vote for who runs the state, the states vote for the nation and it's all based on head-count of participants: a large precinct by population might only have a relative few people engaged and will not have as large an impact when voting in upstream elections. If we're mad at DNC leadership or the options we have for congress/president, the fix is to ensure people at the precinct-level are the right ones.
This comment is a direct response to anyone saying "both sides", "dem's are still corporate shills", or similar defeatist comments. The "spineless dems" currently have power at the top of the party, but we can fix that. It will take work. It will require time, and that time will be hard to justify with little immediate result. This is the battle we need to fight right now, though. It just needs to be constant and not only complaining online and voting every 2-4 years.
Slightly better PR and the color blue.
I don't know about "better PR" these days, this is pathetic.
Well you get a different army of brainwashed masses defending them, using more complex words a Republican would never use because it's above the 6th grade reading level.
Well at least the shit in that case is verbose.
They don't need House Democrats to pass any legislation. They did need Senate Democrats.
Pissed does not help your joke of a nation. This was surrender, and now this administration will push harder.
Probably need to get your lenses checked, because how you took that comment speaks a lot to how you see things and it sounds like you need a new prescription. This is a post about Democrats caving to the GOP once again, so the comment fits the context.
Are they wrong in stating that the cowardice and unwillingness of Democrats to put up a real fight for the average person paved the way for not one but two Trump presidencies? Trump is a symptom.
Alright, enjoy demonizing your allies because your views are so binary. You're just as much of a hindrance to the leftist movement as the people you complain about.
I'm not sure how to simplify it further for you. It's not the fault of the Democrats, but they're partially responsible. It's entirely fair to call them out for doing it again.
If someone comes to your door and says "let me in I'm going to rob you", and you say "no" but don't close the door, lock the door, or do anything to stop them (similar to the performative opposition we see from the Democrats) do you bare no responsibility for the outcome? Sure, you're not the robber, but you were warned and didn't do anything.
You seem to think criticism of the Democrats = someone saying they're Fascists just like the Republicans. Sure, that idea is out there, but now you're just painting everybody with that brush. You and MAGA seem to share more similarities than you think.
Narrator: Not literally, but expected to be taken as such.
Are “The Far Left” in the room with us now?
I read the room, mate.
So do you think the Democrats giving the GOP what they wanted was a good thing here?
They are just rooting for their "team" like a good two party system enjoyer.
Mods are cowards for removing this. Civility is what got us into fascism.
You weren't being kind to start with, so golden rule.
If you don't see the difference then you're operating on vibes rather than substance.
They're to the right of Biden, so anyone who wants the Democrats to fight the GOP it's actually a secret double agent for the GOP.
These spineless Democrats do not need to cave. The GOP can end the shutdown anytime they want.
Moderate Democrats know the filibuster is a powerful tool for stopping progressive legislation, and if Republicans nuke it to end the shutdown, they have one less excuse.
The GOP can remove the filibuster and the DNC can put it back in the second they’re back in power. It has no value to the DNC right now if they cave.
Or rather, a Democratic majority Congress could USE that power to fix some things, and then shelve it.
Would they actually do that? X•doubt
🤣 This would be such a DNC thing to do.
Republicans remove the filibuster and ram through a bunch of vile shit.
People revolt and vote in Democrats.
Democrats, citing the need for decorum and bi-partisanship put back the filibuster.
Republicans block any progress on anything useful.
People are mad and vote in Republicans.
And round and round we go....
People are acting like it's total capitulation. It's not. Per NYT :
It's absolutely 1000% unacceptable unless the Republicans get nothing they've tried to extort and make some additional concessions on top of it. That's what a compromise is, not letting the fucking thieves and saboteurs get away with half their goddamn crimes!
Trans people lose ALL their healthcare. For my family, these democrats helped the GOP kill them. These concessions are WORSE THAN NOTHING
Why the fuck did they start offering concessions and bargaining after they swept the state elections last week?
More evidence that moderates are not allies and are just as fearful of a leftward popular swing as the Republicans are.
They don’t have to worry about polling now, so it’s back to the spineless status quo for these useless fucks.
Once again pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory. All they had to do was literally nothing, but they couldn't even be trusted to do that.
I don’t understand what the calculation was here. People were hurting, but a whole lot more people are going to hurt without health insurance come next year. They got:
Hard to imagine a moderate winning a national primary after this. And what the hell is the republican answer for why it was so important that people not get slightly more affordable healthcare that it was worth starving people.
I hope that at the least, the re-establishment of SNAP will be quick.
Immigrants. It was always immigrants. They repeatedly blamed it on immigrants "stealing" tax payer money thru ACA even tho that's not really possible except for extreme circumstances that typically account for less than 1% of the funding for the program.
Surely they know that’s not true though (even if they won’t admit it publicly). I just don’t see what the real human rational is. Cut money so you can give more tax breaks to the wealthy? Like how can someone be so callous. How do you justify that to yourself?
They believe the "proper" stewards of society are the wealthy. In order for the wealthy to make the best of things, they need that money, so low taxes.
But the wealthy need something else, a desperate working class that will do anything the wealthy says just so they can eat and have some chance at things like decent healthcare. One of their favorite refrains is "nobody wants to work anymore", and in part they blame government assistance for this perceived lack of workers or workers that are so uppity as to demand a living wage.
Of course desperate people can do something other than nicely do the things the wealthy tell them to. So that's where "law and order" principles come in. Make a big authoritarian police force to discourage the more dangerous path that mass desperation can cause.
The rich ones don't see us as humans and the poor ones like the idea of people they don't like suffering even if they have to suffer, too.
There's your rationale.
They'll use budget reconciliation, which they apparently can use once a year to pass budget-related bills with a simple majority. They used it up this year to pass the BBB.
(Cribbed from Reddit.)
Edit: The way I described it may not be how this works. Sorry, I'm not from the US.
Wow so they can’t even at least posture that they would refuse to vote to keep the government open if they don’t agree to continue to the subsidies…
uhhhh. I guess we'll see. You're more optimistic than some of us.
For those paying attention. It ended when the FAA started to ground private planes due to staffing shortages.
Those mega donors are the ones who pressured the vote. Not for the good of society. But because they started to get inconvenienced.
Absolute fucking pussies.
Fuck Chuck.
Thanks for giving the GOP what they wanted, "lesser evil" members of Congress.
And I had hope they would keep the pressure on the fascists, silly me.
I knew they were controlled opposition but this is going above and beyond the call of duty.
They would support Senator Adam Sutler with taking the new position of High Chancellor if they could. Maybe they'll talk about how awful it is that Chancellor Sutler will be taking charge, but they would cave.
Trump just walks into Congress, after a stroke:
And Dems would write a stern letter while voting yes.
Jar Jar is a very fine representation of the democrats at the moment.
Fetterman looks more like Boss Nass
It's no wonder dystopia / revolution fiction is on the rise.
All this time, just to cave to the word of the Republicans is nasty work and on purpose. There is always a group of Dems who are Republicans best allies.
No.
Remember their names for the PRIMARIES
Learn who's challenging the incumbents, and throw a few bucks their way. Or help with their campaign
https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_Senate_Democratic_Party_primaries,_2026
Most the Losers List above don't expect to keep their seats or are otherwise election-proof to a degree, but it's still important to pay attention in the primary.
Instead of ending up with a DNC-approved corpo-Dem, we need better candidates to win the PRIMARY
Good thing those primaries are not fixed or fucked with at all. I mean unless they where completely ran and ruled by the party, but that would be madness. Really a great thing that they are so important that the process is protected by laws and not completely left to the whims of the very body of established people that would benefit from say stacking the ballots, or back room dealing away "problem" candidates.
I mean only a joke of a nation would have only two parties AND also not enshrine into law the process of how those parties elect representatives. The only thing that would be crazier is if they also invented some sort of "election" collage to further fuck with voting and lock in the same two party system.
Fuck our government! Fuck it all to hell. So this cave means that this extended shutdown and all of the suffering people went through, was for absolutely no reason. Our government has failed us yet again. It all needs to be burnt down.
Let's play a game.
Suppose the Republicans shut the government down in 2026. They want to pass a law that makes Trump president for life. The Dems vote no.
One month passes. What happens?
They don't have near enough votes to amend the Constitution, so it wouldn't happen whether the government were open or not.
Or they can just...you know...ignore that part.
Of course. But proposing a law that will never get passed doesn't affect that one way or the other.
It will pass given the proper incentive. Just need to make the Dems sweat a bit, and they'll pass anything.
Rhe point being made is that a law on the books in direct contradiction of the Constitution does nothing. If they want to keep Trump in power past '28 without modifying the Constitution, then a law such as the one suggested would make literally no difference, legally.
Oh, I'm sure that the Supreme Court can think up of something to make it legal. There's a popular theory going around that Trump might go the "first term of the 47th" route to remain in power. If the SCOTUS goes with that definition, then Trump gets a third term without adding any amendments.
Absolutely fucking pathetic
Every time I said they would buckle, I was downvoted. The Democratic party as an institute is not on our side, they use rhetoric to pacify us and prevent a full on revolution that's well overdue.
Wow it's almost like we know how they work and their brainwashed sycophants were conditioned to disagree with any criticism of their party.
The ratchet effect with a massively shifted Overton window as made telling the truth become violence to the state.
As I said before, both parties wanted to cut the programs and fire federal workers because their donors wanted it. They pretend to fight over this wile actually working hand in hand to take money from the poor and funnel it to the 1%. Now that the shutdown was starting to really bite it's time to announce some "compromise". People are still fired, programs are still cut and politicians will keep pretending to disagree over this.
The Democrats could fuck up a wet dream.
“Deal”
Give the GOP everything it wants. Get nothing in return.
They'll get something!
A promise of a vote! Sometime in December... Maybe... If Republicans feel like it and aren't too busy.
A new list of Dems to vote out with new lefties.
This is how a party dies.
this is how a nation dies.
Hopefully, we can build a better one.
Not with ether of those parties
But with blackjack and hookers!
And somehow the gambling hooker party would be 300% less corrupt.
Durbin is on his way out, parting gift to his cronies I guess
Yea, I'm going through and leaving messages for all of these assholes, and Durbin's office isn't even taking messages
Any deal that doesn't put everything in one bill is worthless.
Let's pretend for one moment that Republicans actually joined Democrats in passing the extension of ACA credits and any other concessions they got in the negotiations. Even if they passed the bill, Trump can just veto it. As long as he gets what he needs in a separate bill, he can veto anything else. And if there's enough support for the compromise to overturn a veto, there's enough to prevent it by passing it all as one bill.
But I'm sure Schumer will happily explain how Republicans voting against the ACA credits will be on their permanent record and how that will make this all worthwhile.
My first thought was also, the democrats are pussies and caved again.
My second thought was getting that Epstein vote, coincidentally after some recent Epstein news...
A boy can dream. We'll see if they do some more funny business to block the release.
Open the gov and swear in Adelita Grijalva.
Mike Johnson won't call the House in until after the 2 Dec special election in TN-07 Aftyn Behn is running against a maga candidate for a vacant seat
If she loses the election, then this cancels Grijalva's vote and then it will be 'safe' for the Pedo Protection Party to bring the House back.
When she wins..... Who knows.
The House will stay out until then, which is a major contributing factor to why the GOP was so desperate to peel off the ten Dork Dems on the Losers List above. They can NOT accept anything that would send the CR back to the House because the House is not available until 3 Dec.
Send Behn some dollars if you can, many small donations can have a great impact. She accepts no corp pac or iapac money
https://www.aftynforcongress.com/
Also, she has a substack for posting about issues
https://aftynbehnfortn.substack.com/
Much later edit: Dunno why I had any faith in Schumer to stay the course. Of course they caved.
Traitors
These people are unhinged militant centrists.
It may seem paradoxical, but it is actually possible to be an extreme centrist. The hard truth of American politics is that there are no actual centrist voters. You won't find any significant number of people whose views largely lie right between the platforms of the two parties. What you have instead are voters whose views simply don't align well with the existing party coalitions. Their views may still be extremely strong. Think someone that is extremely pro-choice while also owning a dozen AR-15s. Maybe they have a home in the Libertarian Party, but they have no real home in either major party. They believe passionately on both subjects, they are anything but moderate for both their support of abortion choice and guns. But because their views don't map cleanly to one side or the other's arbitrary grab bag of chosen issues, this voter is called a centrist. But they're not really a centrist. They just have weak partisan alignment.
But people like these? They are actual militant centrists. In many way these politicians are the only true centrists in America. They have formed a worldview that concludes that the right answer to any single issue must lie right in the middle between the two sides. One side wants to raise taxes on the rich while the other wants to cut them? The obviously correct answer must be to keep the taxes steady. Trump wants to turn millions of legal immigrants into illegal immigrants and then deport them, while progressives want to deport no law-abiding person? The correct answer must be to brutalize merely a few thousand innocent people. Progressives want to protect trans rights while Republicans want to liquidate trans people in ovens? The obvious answer must be some roll back of trans civil rights.
People like Schumer, Fetterman, etc. are militant centrists. They will obsessively tack to the very middle of any issue. And this is fundamentally a purely ideological position, the same as any extremist. A militant racist is so committed to theories of racial superiority that they'll want to see racist policies enacted, even if they hurt the country, even if they hurt the racist themselves, regardless of even if white people are hurt. A militant socialist might demand state ownership of every type of business and enterprise, even if there's no market failure and private companies can run those things just fine. You would have to be a pretty extreme socialist to think that the government should be running bars for example.
This is the defining feature of extremism and militancy - a willingness to put one's own ideology above everything else. All that matters is the ideology. It is correct with a capital C. It is truth with a capital T. Any evidence against the ideology is dismissed or explained away.
These people are not moderate. They are militant centrists. Pick an issue, no matter the context or the evidence clear for all to see. They will always tack right in the middle between the two sides. They believe, in their heart of hearts, that the middle path is always the correct one. And they don't care how many people have to die to keep their cherished view of centrism preserved. They are as extreme and militant as any far-right militia member. They just follow the ideology of centrism rather than conservatism.
Even if your Democratic senator didn't vote for this, call them up and call them out for allowing the spinless democrats to once again get fucked by Republicans for nothing.
But they are not the same trust me bro. It is not all performative politics with no real impact. Democrats will save us trust me bro. One more lawsuit bro. One more vote and we defeat facism I promise.
Fuck this shit pathetic
I can't take this anymore. I'm fucking done. Fuck these traders. Fuck my fucking dumbass fucking neighbors. Fuck my fucking asshole family. Fuck all these people. Fuck New Hampshire with the biggest fucking dildo ever Fuck you New Hampshire Fuck you New Hampshire Fuck you New Hampshire
The last election just showed that the shutdown isn't hurting Democrats even slightly.
They're not "caving" they're collaborators that want to help the Republican Party.
BOTH of my senators caved. Ridiculous and embarrassing.
Cortez-Masto and Rosen, for my fellow Nevadans.
Contact their offices and let them know how you feel about it, this hasn't actually happened yet.
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Yep, called and emailed last night, that’s the first time I have ever done that.
Now that it's clear that the Democrats will always surrender unconditionally...
How about the Republicans shut the government down again when the CR expires, and then demand that any Republicans running in the midterms pre-emptively be installed as the winners?
"But the Constitution won't let...", come on you know as well as I do that anything is up for grabs if Democrats caving is a given.
Oh look it’s the pattern that’s been happening my entire fucking life.
And as usual my senator caves.
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Really disappointed to see both my senators (GA) on here. Thank you for putting the link in your post, I'll write them both now.
Call today. A letter won't be fast enough.
So it's the caviest of caves, without even giving the Democrats anything. Are they worried that they were winning too much?
We can't let more Progressives win! People without jobs have more time to vote!!!
Well of course Fetterman wants to cave.
Fuck that guy
With a wire brush
It's inherit because his head is caved in
OP left out Chuck Schumer's DC office number which is at www.schumer.senate.gov/contact
(Kinda doubt I can just post the number on its own without getting in trouble with the mods)
I didn't see Schumer vote for it. The NY times has this quote from him as of a few hours ago
More like "in reach around". 🤌🏼
If they do, they were always going to flip. They just needed a better pocket lining.
The United States is the laughing stock of the world.
Those MAGA voters don't care cuz they have ACA not obamacare so they'll be fine...
I can't wait to see the form letter full of platitudes I receive in response from both of my senators about thsi
Peters isn’t running again, so of course he’s being a fucking bitch. You’re soft as table butter, Gary.
Fr fuck Gary Peters. Taking the cowards way out on a golden parachute.
I really can't think of a reason for them to cave other than worry that Trump will actually pressure Republicans into ending the filibuster and they might have to start doing their fucking jobs.
Or Republicans might lose too hard and then scary progressive things could happen.
Or they fear their constituents who are hungry and can't see gramma for Thanksgiving will punish them as incumbents no matter that (R) did this
As I always say, they are the same party. The shutdown was just for show.
Where are you getting that information & why not cite primary sources? It's on the senate website:
Notably, Schumer voted no.
Schumer coordinated the Yes vote among Democrats
You also missed King
It wasn't on the Senate website yet when I posted
Citation missing?
According to the website
King isn't a Democrat.
Fair. Still, where did the other names come from?
Me looking at cspan screenshot during the vote.
And there is no way Schumer wasn't coordinating this; he held a caucus meeting right beforehand, and the Yea votes were all Democrats who have 4+ years to their next election
From this Senate vote & video?
So…citation missing & speculation conflicting their no vote & statement in the CSPAN post?
While you clearly know how to edit a post, you still haven't corrected it. Why are you doing this?
Yeah, this is absurd, who are all the accounts voting him up when the misinformation he posted isn't correct and he isn't even bothering to edit it? It's would be so easy to correct to, he just needs to put notes on why they should be included. Here, I'll do it for him:
Democrats who voted yes:
Additionally:
Completely wrong about Gillibrand, it's simply a flat out lie that he voted yes. He joined in along with Schumer on the counter-offer, but the Republicans did not agree to that and this is not what this vote was. A lot of people are mad at their attempts to reach bipartisan compromise, but even though that's probably where a lot of the claims that they negotiated a "yes" vote are coming from, that was still something that needed to make the rounds again back at the House and had nothing to do with this vote.
Personally, I think Schumer is getting blamed as a escape goat, he doesn't hold a magic stick that can force other democrats to vote like they did. US parties are basically more of an alignment towards certain groups of lobbyists than what other countries would consider political parties. What likely did so was money, influence, and power, the US has been an oligarchy for quite some time now.
I emailed mine last week, begging them to hold the line. As usual, spineless fucking cowards.
A deal?! 🫢
Is it impeachment? Prison? Beheading? Any real consequences???
Not sure how to feel about this, people were going hungry and planes were being stopped. Yes there is nothing stopping the GOP from doing this again, but it's mostly a charade already - they could have abolished the filibuster and got what they wanted anyways.
The Dems have this attitude that if the people suffer enough they will learn they were wrong for not voting for them, but it feels like ground hog's day with that strategy because misinformed people always learn the wrong lesson. At the end of the day it's more important for our leaders to do good than to prove they were right.
Edit: It seems food stamps were back on, so now I'm just pissed they wasted everyone's time and energy.
The American Voter, voted Republicans back in after starting TWO illegal wars, destroying our public standing and crashing the economy.
People relying on Americans learning anything need their heads examined.
"Doing good" means fighting back against the fascists, not rolling over and giving them everything they want just because they threatened to hurt innocent people. That's all the more reason to fight.
I stg, are liberals really just that bad at negotiations? You can't apply this extremely short term, base utilitarianism approach to the real world, it's just fundamentally wrong.
Like a cheap suit. Stay classy.
Totally expected Catherine Cortez Masto (NV) to be on that list
Oh, she's not on this list but suspected part of the cabal.
https://prospect.org/2025/11/08/why-does-schumer-keep-trying-to-cave-government-shutdown/
She's on the list:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/09/us/politics/government-shutdown-senate-vote.html
Time to get busy supporting your favorite third party candidate.
Or primary them, steal their D
I don't think Democrat leadership has a dick. Or a vage. They lack hardness, depth, and warmth.
They are the Barbie dolls of the political world, and have become the Turdpublican's playthings.
Bullshit! This is more losing strategy than not voting at all.
Democrats need to be primaried just like the Republicans were by maga.
We need the same, except a left version that's willing to stand up and fight for the people.
Been playing that shell game for 40 years. Nope.
So… exactly what people have been saying to do since the 90s and hasn’t happened and then we still have to vote blue no matter who.
Stop thinking this is going to happen. It’s never going to happen.
Saw this coming from a mile away.
Well fuck me, I was 2 miles away and saw this coming
Where's the dissenters in this thread?
Premiums affected refers to those using the public market state options via Obama care. Aka direct purchase plans, which is 10.2% of Americans w/health insurance.
Not quite. Only about 307million Americans have health care, so its 10.2% of the 91% who have Healthcare. So 3 mill less than your number.
Point? I just hanging on jerboa.
Oh that makes it okay then!
Both VA senators saw the statewide sweep and thought to themselves, ‘nope can’t have that.’ What a rug pull.Edit: I thought the list at the top was definitive, Mark Warner has come out Against the bill, although that’s probably only because they agreed he gets to sit out since he’s up for re-election next year.
Bought off with private deals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFejM5qHa5M
Good! That way in the Midterms Voters can Remember that Democrats
SHUTDOWN the Government and Forced us into INTENSE Hardship for LITERALLY no Reasonended the Shutdown!