Panic Spreading Through GOP After DOJ Reveals Epstein Files Are More Damaging For Trump Than They Thought: Report
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We know it's bad. All we had to do is notice how desperate Trump has been to keep this buried.
It's going to be fun finding out what it is that he did exactly.
He's already been proved in court to have committed rape, and very credibly accused of having raped a 13-year-old.
I'm not saying that what's in the files is not even worse. But what's already in the public record is already enough and then some.
The damaging part is the thousands of videos the FBI seized.
My favorite conspiracy is that he & Epstein have been trafficking girls, young women, and even boys, and using the product to blackmail GOP leadership into "supporting" him. How many times since 2015 have you asked yourself, "What does Trump have on [X]?" after a private meeting and abrupt policy flip? Blackmail material is useless once it's public.
That’s like… one of my least favorite conspiracies. You have odd preferences.
Yeah, my favorite is that Jim Morrison agreed to fake his death to get the US government off his back for how his music fueled counter culture at the time. He laid low for a little, and then re-emerged as his new persona, Glen Danzig, the leader of the horror punk band, The Misfits.
https://xkcd.com/1400/
For me it’s the Gunpowder Plot but probably only because it failed.
Enron is a pretty good one too, since it resulted in the collapse of one of these shitty megacorps.
Most conspiracies are just depressing shit though like the Reichstag fire and the Business Plot.
At least MK Ultra gave us some wild stories.
My favorite conspiracy theory is that the NBA draft lottery is rigged. People always say "oh no it couldn't possibly be rigged because it's overseen by the accounting firm Ernst & Young". It used to be overseen by the accounting firm Arthur Andersen until they got busted aiding and abetting the Enron scam.
When I was an accountant my shred box had "Arthur Andersen Audits, 2000-2004" on the front of it. Big laughs every time someone saw it
I always imagined the Business Plot going down like...
this war hero who gave his entire life towards serving his country walks into congress exclaiming "by god you all need to hear this, these unscrupulous businessmen came to me trying to get me to pull a coup..."
congress goes - ...slow blink... no need for a coup, they already own us. the war hero leaving with his entire reality shattered as he knows noone (no common man, atleast) would believe his story, especially not after the story is spun by the media conglomerates that were a part of the plot
then in a followup phonecall congress exclaims... "godfuckingdamnit JPM, do you really have to pull this prank on every other innocent (in the conscious sense) war hero we got? doesn't that ever get old?"
So thats why Glen is such a dickhead
I think Jim Morrison re-emerged as Val Kilmer.
I mean I've never seen Jim Morrison and Glen Danzig in the same place at the same time, that probably checks out
That would be tricky given the difference in height.
Guvment stole his inches
I could absolutely see Mother as a Doors tune.
I can’t tell their voices apart.
Personally mine is a JFK conspiracy. There were no shooters. JFKs head just did that
There is without a doubt a giant black mail ring that encompasses a bunch of politically powerful people.
, Thiel i believe in the late 90s was associated with epstein, i think.
Spoiler - he was actively involved in trafficking kids, not just raping them. To such a degree it might as well have been called the Trump Files. A lot of the trafficking went through Mara Lago, and a lot of the girls were picked from the international beauty pageants he used to run, by Trump himself.
There ya go, do with this information what you will. Think it will budge the evangelical Christian support? I don’t.
But maybe we can turn people against the Christians when it doesn't. Also good.
1: doubt
2: and they want me dead for shit that I dont control that hurts nobody, so I would like it to be less socially acceptable. The more there are the more important it is that it be hated.
Many evangelical Christians see kids as property. This helps a lot with their cognitive dissonance.
Support increases. Imperfect vessel guys!
I doubt we will until after he and his fellow shitheads that are in it, are dead. His taxes were never formally released. He's in a lose-lose situation if he releases them, because they're going to be very bad.
Bad like diddles kids bad, or bad like trafficks kids bad, or bad like is actively part of the blackmail scheme the trafficking and diddling kids enables bad? The last one is the only part that explains the "loyalty" his party (and to lesser extent the opposition party leadership, certain media enterprises, etc) has been providing him.
Cliche, but yes.
Yup
Probably the last one, which is why so many people involved are pushing against it. Mossad wants their laundry to be clean
He was one of the most prolific child sex traffickers in history. Not only did he rape them himself, on hundreds of occasions, he bought and sold them as sex slaves. And the vast majority of his victims were white, American, Christian children.
his pagent was a front for sex trafficking, erika kirk was in one of his pagents.
Im willing to go so far as to suggest that he might not have been directly involved but that he’s now protecting someone like a Bill Gates, Warren Buffett or the now deceased Prince Philip.
Lol you think Trump would protect anyone but himself? The guy famous for refusing to pay people who do work for him? The guy who has betrayed everyone he felt like he could benefit from betraying, even a little tiny bit? He doesn't give a fuck who else would be implicated. He would probably murder Melania on live television to get out of it if he thought it would work.
Yes, I believe he would protect other pedos whom might have evidence of his roles in other crimes such as supplying Epstein with children to traffic.
I'd rather LOSE ALL MY HEALTHCARE AND FOOD then to Allow Trump to be found GUILTY of RAPING LITTLE CHILDREN!
-Literally EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN VOTER!
Fixed it for you.
"then" is incredibly accurate for the spelling and grammar level of MAGA peons though.
Call your elected officials and tell them that so they hold the line
He was quite obviously a trafficker and a child rapist. How do these people get through a day?
🎵 🌈 Cognitive Dissonance 🌈 🎶
Birds of a feather flock together.
Obliviously. Kind of what the hate and lashing out is for.
They get through the day because they think the other side is lying about everything. Just like your side thinks they are lying about everything. The real issue is that everyone hates each other so fucking much, that Trump and cunts like him, are able to get away with so much. If you all stopped the "youre a cunt" stuff, you might all see the real villains that surround us all.
Something, something, something, divide and something...
Youd all rather downvote me, than admit that you fell into the culture war trap... Thats just sad. Youre being shown to your face, how Trump and those like him get away with it and all you can do is double down because you are terrified of being wrong. You are them, they are you, and the elites of the world are fucking laughing at you all.
Only one side has evidence though
Congratulations on missing the point
Nah
Release the Trump/Epstein files
So we might even get to see it.
It might be too late to go back. Everyone knows they're Nazis now. This is his second term.
Yeah, how many people in his movement change their mind, how many decide it's all fake news, and how many decide it's just the cost of doing business is a real question.
People outside the MAGA movement have already been sidelined, of course.
it's so obvious what's about to go down, when trump finally croaks (or in the unlikely event R's grow a pair of testicles and finally turn on trump).
those old guard ghouls of the previous establishment republicans will crawl out of the woodworks, with many establishment neolib dem hands helping them along the way. like those of their billionaire buddies Newsom and Pritzer, who have had so much media success "keeping it real" vs. trump (all while ICE rips into their poor communities unfettered).
establishment R and establishment D will come out in force to impose order, attempt to reign in that conservative propaganda machine, placate progressives away from true reform etc. in the vain hope of trying to return to that unsustainable constant ratfuckery
and the worse part is it'll probably work
I don't think so. The old ideologies are dead.
And Trump is not really the one in charge, he's merely the front man. The real power in charge are the oligarchs.
IIRC it mentions right in the article nobody else can really cleanly replace him. There's tons of different subfactions with different ideas and the personality cult is the main thing holding them together.
I suppose if Vance could get enough signatures to declare Trump unfit for office, he'd have a decent opening to consolidate power. If.
Yeeaaaahhh, doesn't matter. I still want to see each and everyone that profited from trumps crimes in anyway locked up.
they cant afford to side against trump or his magats will do death threats and primary the gop from congress with more magats.
they cant afford to side against trump or his magats will do death threats and primary the gop from congress with more magats.
These will never be seen. This is the kind of stuff people get assassinated over ... Likely people already have been assassinated over it.
I know of at least one person who's been assassinated over this.
Does his last name start with an "E" by chance?
This is the guy, he knows too much!
So they are just getting up to speed on what the rest of us have known for years now. Cool. Do something about it.
Just fucking release them. Stop teasing.
The DOJ is under Trump, so that's a non-starter. Speaker Johnson is keeping the House closed down so our new Congresswoman from Arizona can't get sworn in and cast the deciding vote to force release.
This is Trump's DOJ and reps from Trump's party reporting this?
MAGA is all about fire hoses of horror and disinformation. If conservative-owned, left-leaning mainstream media is reporting on this and info is being attributed to assumed loyalists, then there is something WAY worse going on or about to happen that isn't being reported, isn't there?
At this point, I can't tell if I need to take off my tin-foil hat or if Rowdy Roddy just nut-smashed some glasses on me. Good lord, I need a nap.
No need for tin foil hats, it's really bad in those files.
Yes, but the fact that every time we hear about something unimaginably horrible and shocking, it turns out that something even more horrible and shocking was happening in the background.
Which is why I say with paranoia, "tin foil hat's saying there's something worse than the thing that's worse than Polaroids of Trump with naked children."
How can it be worse than we all thought?
Did they honestly think he was only in the files thousands of times (I assume it’s that high since they had that many agents redacting his name) just for being best friends with the pedophile running a massive human trafficking ring?
If they’re drinking their own koolaid they’re fucked.
I checked r/conservative.
No panic is spreading.
the russian mods suppress any news critical of trump, or any that does not adhere to russian backed propaganda, like they did with luigi, and remember when trump was railing on putin, and putin retaliated by using his propaganda machine to post all epstein related news against him.
There was a lot of anger about Epstein files a few months ago but how they just post anti-immigration propaganda
Are the conservatives ok?
Something along these lines?
Is that Donald j Trump, current president of the United States, and Jeffrey r Epstein, Best friend and fellow child rapist?
Is there another article about this? The Daily Boulder doesn't have the best credibility
Anytime you see "X group is panicking over Y" they're almost certainly not.
Look at conservative news outlets and you'll see articles claiming that liberals are panicking over some random bullshit that nobody is actually talking about in liberal circles.
Whenever you see oppositional coverage or gross over editorializing you can be safe in ignoring it because it's just slop propaganda.
https://newrepublic.com/post/202813/department-justice-admits-republicans-epstein-files-worse-donald-trump
Government is shut down anyways - best ever time to make a new one?
This is actually the Republican plan.
It's lots of people's plan. Nearly every actual human dislikes the corporate-owned government, and it's been an oligarchy for ages.
A successful revolution will need the support of many people who were right about the problem but wrong about the solution.
They were publicly available
If you mean revolution, nobody is anywhere close to credibly being able to try.
If you mean just big change next election, I can't say it's impossible, although I suspect the playing field will be made pretty uneven.
What do you mean, like John Connor or something?
More like a group. Any group that would even contemplate it is a joke in the US. And hivemind revolutions where everyone rises up independently have never happened; there's always a counterelite giving orders and enforcing internal compliance with them.
I mean, you can barely get people to vote spontaneously, forget risk taking a bullet. The whole idea of it being spontaneous basically comes out of propaganda written after revolutions (good or bad) to manufacture legitimacy. Now, a coup by someone already in power is another matter. That's basically in process already in the US.
What if we rely on direct action that makes each participant better off, like unions? IMHO the problem with relying on people to vote spontaneously is that it's cooperating on a prisoner's dilemma.
Yeah, I do activism as well. Particularly the boring kind nobody else shows up for. It doesn't really contradict any of this.
Although if I was in America I don't think I'd bother. Who knows if unions will even be legal in a few years? (Well, I'd guess the MAGA ones will last, but it's an example) Edit: Getting out would be the main priority, and maybe helping others do so.
What do you mean? There's no penalty for voting, and more or less anyone can run, so it's not like there's nobody to vote for. The only good reason not to is just the hassle.
That's exactly it. To a selfish individual, the time cost is far greater than the benefit of one additional vote.
Exactly. And the cost only goes up from there. There isn't really an easy solution to the world's problems unfortunately, because we made them in the first place. I try anyway.
its probably because hes represent probably half the visitors there, probably epsteins most frequent client.
He's probably a coconspirator
most likely he used his beauty paegent as a pipeline to epstein, erika kirk was in one of them.
Everyone holding up their release is an accessory. Obstructing evidence is a felony.
He is an equal opportunity pedophile. Boys aren't immune
No shit!
Republican Nazis: "Are we the baddies?"
Panic should be spreading through Republicans and Democrats. If it's not then we know this is all just marketed drama and will be used to the advantage of rich people.
America isn't something you should hand your life over to with trust.
Honestly, that idea goes for other nations too... But America is clearly infected by darkness/crime/immorality and politics will not save it as long as they keep allowing business and capitalism to mold and set their citizens on paths that lead to dead ends. The individuality they sell you is marketed bs. The lifestyles and narrow ideations of freedom are bullshit. You people are human beings.... Human beings should be living above that manipulation.
America doesn't give more of a fuck about you than hr at a ghetto McDonald's. That same bullshit ideology is scaled up and that's America. It's not about humanity. America is business and so much hr style bullshit is manipulating people to not quick the job.
It's time to quit the job... Aka the American branded identity.
There will be marketed fear against this reality and understanding. And it up to you to get in tune with what is actually right as human, not as an American or an under values and underpaid worker.
Always put humanity above everything. Otherwise it's all just gang wars based of feelings and ego.