Health Secretary Kennedy, Trump link circumcision to autism through Tylenol
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Has Tylenol sued the Trump admin yet? This can't be good for their sales.
Honestly, anyone who is influenced by this absolute bullshit was probably already taking horse dewormer or pet drips behind the neck from the farm/feed store anyway.
Nah, their patent on acetominaphen is expired, so they have little real interest in defending it today. Slap another brand on their various meds that don't contain it, and call it a day.
People who believe the administration and drop Tylenol for Motrin, Kenvue is happy either way.
Also they continue to own the brand that is demonized by the administration that some people will stick with precisely because this administration demonized it.
Also reap a bump of people stockpiling because they think the government might take it away.
I mean, when the profits for all of those drugs funnel to the same company...
They're still constantly using their brand name, rather than the generic chemical name. I think they'd def have grounds to sue.
I agree they have grounds, but I was approaching it from the angle of if they would bother, or need to for that matter.
Trump is as friendly with big pharma and the big corpbrations as any politician - behind closed doors he'll likely say or do anything to keep them happy, and they know it. Their lawyers may contact his lawyers, but we'll likely never hear of it unless both sides decide to leverage legal/political theater to their mutual benefit somehow, at the taxpayers/consumers' expense.
It's about time we get paracetamol here in the States. It's much more effective and has a charming accent.
I wouldn't know, but I hope you're right, categorically.
This wouldn't be "defending it" like a copyright claim. This would be suing for damages. It doesn't matter how much they care about the brand. They'd sue to get money based on a loss of potential sales (future and present) and any other harm done.
I could see them not wanting to rock the boat, but I don't think it's a smart play. They'll go down either way if the Fascists want, and they clearly don't care about them enough to not damage them.
They are saying Tylenol, not acetaminophen aren't they? What typically happens when you defame a brand?
You get sued out of existence for damages.
This case? The supreme court made the president untouchable as long as it can be claimed as an official act, and he said it during a white house press conference so it will be deemed an official act.
So after their entire legal department quit rather than be associated with a case against the supreme leader, they'd find an ambulance chaser to file the lawsuit and trump would look at them like south African diplomat from leathal weapon 2 and say "presidential immunity" then the FDA and CDC would launch health and safety inspections and the IRS would audit the company and every employee from the CEO to the janitor in Booger Hole, WV.
Your question is the kind of thing I expected to find out with my own comment, but the answer barely matters when it comes to whether they will take action or not. Either way its their product originally, something they invented/discovered.
Probably doing great from panic buying.
Is there EVER a time when Republicans AREN'T thinking about the dicks of children??
Tricky one, tricky. It's very doubtful but maybe it's possible for them to do that when they are busy raping little girls...?
Yeah, wheen they're defending female youth sports. They need to check the locker rooms in case there's any secret children's dicks ah god dammit nevermind
I showed this to my autistic friend. He laughed so hard I thought I broke him.
You didn't break him, the Tylenol and circumcisions did! It's all in the article. Try to keep up, bud.
The woke Trump administration again persecuting Christians and attacking their rites
Most Christians don't do the dick chop, it's a US and Jewish thing (maybe Muslim too?)
It’s quite common among Christians in the u.s. Probably somehow related to Kellogg and Graham, of cereal and crackers. Those types were obsessed with preventing masturbation and pleasure.
Not in the US. About 80% are circumcised in the US, including most Christians.
I guess I meant an inclusive and, meaning Jewish or US American, but it would have meant an either or situation there.
Where I live, chopping dicks is predominantly a Jewish thing, and is the butt of many Jewish jokes. Personally, I'm anti-baby-dick-chopping.
To give some perspective on why this is the case from an American, it isn't that a bunch of parents are asking / going out of their way to get this done, it's that the doctors almost always offer it with the justification that it's a preventative measure against infections, and the parents generally don't question it due to how commonplace it is already. The cultural reasons that started this haven't been popular for decades and it's only the medical establishment that's keeping this going.
That figure absolutely staggers me. The fact that it’s so commonplace to irreversibly mutilate the genitals of a baby that has no capacity to consent to such a lifelong alteration really says something. Conservatives being up-in-arms about trans kids taking hormone blockers to prevent puberty but not about taking a scalpel to babies’ penises would be genuinely baffling if I didn’t already expect that without double standards, they’d have no standards.
Yep. Blew my mind when I learned about it, too. Unfortunately it's not unusual or even difficult for these people to hold two completely incompatible opinions at the same time. I should add that female genital mutilation is not commonplace in the US. It doesn't make it better, just less horrible.
Back in the 70s-80s many Christian Americans were circumcised because it was thought to be cleaner. Doctors would often just do it once the baby was born with little to no input from parents.
That's fucked up. It's still fucked up if the parents ask for it. My body my choice and all that.
US thing = American Christian thing = American thing
I mean I'm all for ending circumcision, but being a fellow acetaminophen-american, I can certainly say it does not appear to be a factor for me being that I'm not cut.
It seems very strange that lacking foreskin would have a relationship to executive functioning in the brain, but I'm not an expert like they claim to be.
DICKBUTT 💀
Is this a copypasta or AI generated? It's several orders of magnitude better written than basically every Lemmy comment I've ever seen.
They say men think with their dicks, but I thought it was a metaphor!
There's conclusive evidence that male Trump supporters think stunted thoughts, so draw your own conlcusions from that.
Ngl I thought this was a stroke headline. These are a whole bunch of unrelated topics strung together in a sentence with Elmer's glue.
No, Elmer's doesn't have enough fumes. I think it's rubber cement they've been sniffing
Weapons grade modeling glue that they stopped selling in the 80s.
Well, they don't have foreskins, do they?
well... (nsfw image warning) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clitoral_hood
Well... ::: spoiler nsfw My wife and I have definitely very much enjoyed the process of me acquiring the intimate familiarity I have with the matching area of her anatomy, but if I started calling that a foreskin my access pass would likely be revoked faster than you can say "and you can kiss goodbye to..... wait, no, you canNOT kiss goodbye"
:::
female genital mutilation was practiced in the USA, and thankfully banned, for the same reasons male genital mutilation should be.
If I had boys, there's no way I would agree to them being circumcised at all, but you need to know that FGM is much, much worse than circumcision. Most circumcised men can perform happily sexually, but need lube to masturbate. Not so women who have endured FGM.
This is the equivalent of removing the glans or dickhead. Its purpose is to remove pleasure from sex.
Includes 1
This makes sex very painful. There isn't a deliberate equivalent for men, but men with severe phimosis also experience pain. Phimosis is usually treatable without surgery, and even after surgery (circumcision) sex is pleasurable. Paraphimosis is an urgent medical emergency where the foreskin is trapped behind the glans, cutting off blood supply, but no one is doing phimosis or paraphimosis to people deliberately.
I.e. botched, deliberately or accidentally.
So...
The normal outcome of circumcision, "I wish wanking were easier" isn't the same as the normal outcome of FGM, "I wish sex wasn't traumatisingly painful".
Pretending that circumcision is as bad as, or equivalent to FGM, or even that they're bad for the same reason, REALLY undermines your case to the point of making you look heartless or ill-informed.
I had actually researched both types of genital mutilation and "corrective" mutilation of intersex folks; and totally agree with what you're saying. I didn't mean to justify FGM in any capacity. I can't speak to the effects of MGM or FGM exactly, but I find the idea of mutilating the genitals of someone unable to consent for aesthetic or "religious" reasons absolutely vile. I wasn't trying to pick favorites here. I would not want FGM to be legal, even if MGM remained legal; or vise-versa.
Republicans are NOT Anti Semetic! They just think Nazis are OK and that Jewish Traditions (ASIDE from Bombing Refugee Camps and Hospitals) are WRONG!
I'm not antisemitic and I think circumcision is wrong. It's sexual assault, normalized.
I get the traditional and cultural reasons why it was done, but that time is gone.
I think historically, intersex people would have an operation to assign a single gender. Nowadays, we wait, as it is considered cruel to assume. Why is it different for religion? Why do we have an exception for people who are not medically trained to perform what is essentially an operation.
The only reason it is tolerated and legal and common is due to cultural memory. If some new religion required all children to have their appendix removed preventively, we would not do that.
Hadn’t thought of appendicitis prevention as an Avenue for cultists’ insanity. You may have just written into being some new bs for 2030.
/s
At least they would be removing something pointless, not something like human rights.
fully agreed, but I will note that "corrective" genital mutilation on intersex folks is still very much a thing.
Wow all that blood loss seems to be making his face smaller and smaller
This was my thought as well. Seems like a very thinly veiled antisemitic thing to say.
Thank you for this information Children's Penis Expert RFK Jr.
If this is a round about way to banning genital mutilation except for doctors reasons then I guess they can have this one.
I admire you for having this much blind optimism after the last ten months or so.
No, they can't, because they're only gonna apply it to trans people even when they do have doctors okaying it
I know a lot of folks are against circumcision, but my old boss was 78 and had to be circumcized cuz the sheath lost its elasticity and he couldn't pee and yea that's an old person issue but man. I'm just glad they did it when I was too young to remember. He was not a happy camper
Sure, but the same can be said about pretty much anything. If I were to get bone cancer in my left arm, I'd rather have had it amputated when I was a baby than today. Recovery always sucks.
My only regret is that I have boneitis
As far as I know, people are against forced circumcision. It boils down to mutilating someone, usually a kid, preemptively for… reasons. I don't think anyone care about medically mandated procedure.
so....is the autistic foreskin in the room with us?
obviously not, they were cut off. Do you know what a circumcision is?
is that some kind of honorary knight?
I dub thee... Autistic Foreskin.
thanks for the tip
Whelp after reading that my head hurts so much I have to go take some Tylenol.
Pretty sure I developed a brain bleed from that title sentence.
So if you take too many Tylenol, you become Autistic and your foreskin drops off. Cool trick Bro! Now do Diphenhydramine.
No no, it's when you get circumcision and then rub Tylenol on the wound.. right?
TIL all Jews are autistic
As a Jewish person, yes
Pure genius!
That's a clever way of bringing it back to the Jews. Good job. Pro move. It's always antisemitism, even when you didn't think they could find a way.
being against genital mutilation is about as antisemitic as being against genocide is antisemitic IMO
both have nothing to do with being jewish and everything to do with preserving the physical integrity of innocent people
Is circumcision not a rule in Judaism?
These people are incompetent and selfish and ti makes them cruel.
wat
Kellogg gave me and most American men autism I guess
These people are stupid. I am embarrassed that 40-50% of the US swear fealty to these idioys.
Circumcision? Oh APICs not gonna be happy with that!
Why would they care about American jews? There's Israeli war criminals to support
So can I sue my parents for circumcision now? Or rather sue the U.S. government for allowing genital mutilation to children. The rate for adult males in the U.S. is around 80% of the population, and new borns is declining quickly. About 100 million men.
Let's say we sue for $100,000 a piece, which I would consider a low settlement for a government allowing mutilation of its population. What's that.. $10 trillion dollars or so?
I figure they would claim the department of health isn't a basis for legitimate information to warrant a legal case.
At this point there should just a a bot that posts the billy madison points gif automatically whenever either of those two chuckfucks is mentioned.
Someone needs to sit rfk jr down and explain freshman level science to him. Just the scientific process and learning that correlation does not imply causation would do wonders.
Once again medical access
They want to diagnose women who take Tylenol while pregnant with TDS. Previously RFK Jr said he wanted to put people with mental illness - which he claims TDS is - in camps.
They want to build camps of pregnant liberal women. Do you think they will let them keep their babies? I doubt it.
https://youtu.be/uiFwdT53YRA
the same people believe tylenol=autism, also would believe flouride is poisonous to adults, if they use toothpaste with flouride(its only ever found that children who has consumed toothpaste/high concentrations, have flourosis). they would also believe things like "morgellans and chronic lyme", the latter is made up by 2 different midwestern white moms with no science degrees, and you wonder why most of the believer are of that demographic.
If it takes some misinformation to end the horrific act of infant genital mutilation, I'm kinda fine with it tbh.
No. We could just end it and also not be stupid while spreading misinformation.
Much as I feel genital mutilation is awful and should be a thing of the past this will unfortunately harm people on the way. The religious who believe circumsision is a good idea will keep doing so, but along the way women who are pregnant will have their only reasonable option for pain and fever relief stigmatised, ironically potentially increasing the rate of autism. There is some evidence that maternal fever may increase the likelihood of autism in the child, so not using paracetamol to control fever may increase the rate.
Also, never side with Nazis. If they say the sky is blue you don't say you agree, you say that the sky is blue. They will always try to pull people in to agreeing with them and then change their opinion later and try to pull people along with them.
That's how they get you.
They build your trust with some truth (or at least something believable. Usually half-truths and lies-through-omission nowadays). Add in some fear. Then what you accept as truth changes.
This is why it's so damn dangerous that Sinclair and Nexstar owns almost every goddamn local news broadcast in the country. They didn't just buy the stations...they bought the trust that those stations had earned in the local market. That was the real asset.
Yep, and by broadcasting the same message from many sources they can create the illusion of consensus because of the ten news sources you see 8 of them agree, 1 goes insanely far past those 8, and 1 disagrees with the other 9. The fact that only one station disagrees with the rest and presents reasonable facts makes them sound like the outlier and seem likely wrong, while the insane version makes the 8 in the middle sound normal.