Hegseth orders rare, urgent meeting of hundreds of generals, admirals
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The Pentagon has summoned military officials from around the world for a gathering in Virginia. Even top generals and their staffs don’t know the reason for the meeting.
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There is no way this is a good thing. Summoning a single general to a meeting without giving any context is not a thing that is done. Summoning all of them and not stating the meeting purpose or providing read ahead charts or pre-briefs... that's incredibly ominous.
I'm hoping it is only him directing them to call it Dept of War (DoW) on all official comms instead of DoD.
Its also ridiculously irresponsible.
There is a lot of discussion to be had over the actual value of a general in modern warfare (where individual soldiers have tactical value and so much decision making happens at the company or even squad level). But no discussion is required to say what a ridiculously juicy target "every high ranking military official" is and the massive damage to morale and organization that would ensue.
Yeah that’s a lot of HVT in one area.
I wouldn’t be super shocked if this turns into loyalty pledge-a-palooza.
That's my guess as well. "Swear a blood oath to King Trump personally or you're fired right now".
I'm skeptical of that.
This will be hundreds of "military men". Yes, the vast majority are pencil pushers who are in worse shape than the average divorced dad "trying to get back out there". Even if they are bringing every single chud they can find, they are still going to be the "weaker" group. And chuds hate feeling weak.
If it were just the inevitable loyalty oaths, I would expect that to happen in more isolated groups. And while it is always possible that they could batch the generals into the room to kiss the skidmarked ring, that still feels like a risk when they might not get the photo op they want at the end.
My money is on "planning how to secede from the United Nations". Aka "planning to go to war with basically all of NATO and a bunch of Global South countries who want revenge". Whether that goes anywhere is a different discussion, but "all of our generals made some great plans" is a talking point they would want.
When Saddam took power he called a meeting of the party leadership and publicly arrested those he suspected of "treason". He even had the event recorded.
Yeah but Drunky Smurf is a total coward
Vance and Hegseth arent, though...
What, with the current administration, is not ridiculously irresponsible?
They have not yet decided to ban speed limits and seat belts, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that
You could call it Pentagon Secret Pizza Service
Or PSPS
Do you deliver to Virginia?
I mean I'd pretty much have to.
Would you be willing to deliver to MD? Do your drivers have any drone experience?
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Drunk texted them accidentally?
Fucking hit "Reply All"
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Don't think so, there was no journalist in the chat group...
He brought them in to help him find his keys
Or declared war to NATO (meaning ourselves) on Discord, brown out drunk.
My guess is about 1/4 are about to be fired for not being enough of a sycophant. Everybody is being called for two reasons; that’s how the corpo’s do layoffs now and, more importantly, as of right now the admin has zero fucking clue which 1/4 they are going to fire yet. That list is going to have more day of changes than a Vince McMahon era PPV.
If they do replace them they will be incompetent boobs who will screw up at every turn. Might be a good thing?
That's generally how fascism works, and doesn't last.
I would think it to be good. That would push the Blue States to hire the none-evil leadership into their ranks. We will need skilled and good people to lead us against the Neo Confederates.
Doesn’t take much intelligence to order the go ahead on another civilian boat bombing. If anything, the dumber for the better that type of evil.
There were two meeting rooms on the email! (/silly joke)
But don't they do mass firings by text and just locking you out of your machine these days? The US Aid workers were left stranded for a while— not sure if they got help getting back or just got abandoned and had to get friends and family to pitch in for flights home...
Or being black or a women.
We're going to war with somebody.
And all the times I've heard MAGA tell me Biden and the Dems were warmongers.
But, I could be wrong. I always admit that.
It's always projection. 100% of the time
Maybe it’s like the department of justice: find me a war that will help me politically. I’ll fire anyone who doesnt.
But shit, Venezuelans need to be stocking up on supplies. Effing MAGAts have already been laying the groundwork
Epstein's Law: every accusation from a Conservative [of being guilty of a thing] is a confession [of being guilty of the thing]
It's polulist tactics 101: blame all your wrongdoings on your enemy/opposition. All they can reply with is "no you!" Wow, strong defense, as if anyone is going to believe that.
They need to christen their newly renamed Department of War with a war of some sort. Otherwise why go through all that trouble of renaming it. That would just look stupid.
Let's just hope it's not against US citizens.
Better Americans fight Americans than anyone else. Fix your shit.
trump is already at war with them.
yeah it better be just some more brown people! this is american tax dollars after all
They renamed the Department of Defense to Department of War. So yeah, you're probably wrong. It's probably just a military high tea with a karaoke contest or something.
"Antifa" they are going to war with American citizens. They are going to purge anyone who objects
Two things can be true at the same time. I know this must be shocking news to you.
“Okay boys, who’s in on the second Trump self-coup? Also, if you say no you’re going to the ICE camps.”
My guess? Loyalty pledge.
'Murica right now:
Murikkka
That or/and a purge
If I were a general I'd be worried about some sort of culling a la Saddam.
Saddam was a hell of a lot more competent than this bunch. I actually consider it a significant blessing that they want to jump us over the cliff and into fascism, but they're in a Pinto that needs new tires, and they seem unaware enough that they are trying to make it work anyway.
Not to say it definitely won't work, I am glad for people getting out and raising hell about it. But it is a blessing that they are so stupid.
Fum fact: the cybertruck is 17x more dangerous than the pinto was
I remember hearing a story about some country's leader started gathering their legislators and then claimed he had uncovered a list of names conspiring against him, then announced the names one by one, got the soldiers to lead them to a hallway, and executed them, then the remainder of them pledge loyalty to the leader.
Something like that, forgot what country it was. But this sounds so familiar. Uncanny parallel.
A video of that event exists. It was Saddam Hussein.
Yeah, definitely talking about Iraq. Here is Hitch talking about it.
But these are the Generals, not congressmen...
Smells like a purge.
The kind where they'll call names, take them outside, and summarily execute them for some invented treason.
I mean... the US military is supposed to be anti fascist, and if you're a general you've been there longer than just trumps term, so really they are all anti fascists.
Antifa is a terrorist organization now, so he'll round em all up, charge them with treason, and install new generals who've never served in the military before.
The military swears an oath to the constitution, not the president or any man. Which is what my air force friends have been telling me - don't worry, the forces won't go fascist. Trump apparently came to the same conclusion and is reducing their forces while he massively ramps up ICE, his new domestic army that DOES swear allegiance to him.
Which seems like it has implications but I'm no analyst.
Technically, all of the admin did the same pledge and we see how that's going.
I mean, there’s funding, sure. But I’d put my money on a marine with nothing but flipflops and his privately owned rifle over a ICE goon any day.
How many ICE goons are (ex)military?
I could be wrong here, but I feel like anyone in ICE who was in the military are the military rejects, or couldn't get into the military.
If they were good ex military there would better jobs than ICE.
right, the air force has no extremists
i remember the AFB he was stationed at's response to this. it was nothing.
Every org is going to have extremists, but you are talking about a former military member that was discharged with a less than honorable discharge, who then committed and was sentenced for murder.
What do you think the AFB should have done here?
he was active duty when it happened
And he was discharged, tried for murder and sentenced to over 40 years in jail.
What do you think should have been done by the military unit that would have made this better?
anything more than jack shit would have been nice.
Its actually illegal to be a "Nazi" "Communist" or "Member of a Totalitarian Party" when someone becomes a US Citizen, so I think we should revoke citizenship of all the magats.
Which will basically be like Tsarist Russia, which was humiliated countless times in the 19th century and ww1 in no small part due to their big military officers being appointed due to noble rank rather than merit or ability.
Telling them we are invading Venezuela probably.
Or New York City.
The generals in Europe wouldn't care if we invaded South America. He's doing something bigger. My bet is invading Ukraine, Russia, NATO, or the US. And I couldn't guess which one. Maybe more than one.
Probably gonna ask them to swear an oath to Trump and anyone who doesn't gets a boot
Almost definitely this. And maybe bringing them in person because they have to kneel before trump while saying the oath.
I hate that all these are legitimate possibilities. "We're doing a coup, so you will all be expected to do your part."
That could be an email. Bringing them in person is alarming.
Hegseth is a media talking head. He wants spectacle to garner viewership, so a dramatic in-person meeting would be the way he would do it.
Am I out of the loop? Why the fuck would we be invading Venezuela?
Wagging the dog like every conservative president, really. Something something drugs or whatever reason we are giving for murdering civilians in the Caribbean.
That is seriously ominous
Can anyone added accidentally to the signal group brief us on what happened in the meeting please.
This seems like exactly the type of gathering you want to avoid in a world where hypersonic missiles probably* exist.
* bring on the pedantry over what actually defines a hypersonic missile
Seems like the kind of gathering where you may want to bring a gun and sit near the emergency exit.
I'm not cut out for military. I'd sooner resign than be summoned in this way
Putin is salivating right now. Jerking off to visions of a nuke wiping out the heads of US military.
There's always the state of the union where you could cripple the US government, so it's not like there aren't options for something like that if you were already willing to risk it.
Whole TV series on that too called Designsted Survivor with Kiefer Sutherland. I quite enjoyed it.
I loved it. But season 3 feels... idk, like the government is already fixed so plot is over, not sure why they even made a season 3.
It got very formulaic.
Crisis happens, president makes rash decision that his advisors say is going to be a mistake, mistake happens, he fixes mistake with fatherly talk and “I’m new at this” repeat.
Money, the reason is always money.
"Ok everyone, we're here for a very important reason. Trump is pouty over his UN incident and we need to throw him a proper dictator worship party. I'm going to need all of you in DC pronto so we can really give those boots a good kissing. It's for The Good Of the Country™©®."
Sorry boss, best I can do is a warship party.
-Navy equivalent of brigadier general or above
Trump is declaring war on the UN because of the escalator, starting the stupidest war since Caligula declared war on the sea.
Well Caligula won that war. Really showed Neptune
I mean you don't really call in people from abroad to say "hey, war time" you call in people to tell them they're no longer needed and the others who are also called in get told about the "awesome" restructuring that's going on.
I will make that bet.
I 2nd the bet!
Auto-complete changing Al into All Generals instead of Al Johnson.
Im calling it. Fight antifa which is anyone the administration says it is or anyone posting or demostrating against facism. I carry signs against facism regularly. no kings anyone?
Off to the gulag with you!
Well we had the horst wessel shooting time for night of the long knives?
More like the way Hitler had all the generals summoned in 1935 to take an oath to him personally instead of to the Weimar Republic.
I hope they all brought knives ala the Roman Senate...
Wouldn't that be wild? MAGA world would find a way to blame the left, though.
They are preparing the Military on the fight on Antifa.
I suspect they are informing the generals they are about to begin an invasion of (take your pick) country.
No. This is something else. If it was an invasion plan there would be the usual high level meetings at the Pentagon and Whitehouse. Then orders would be issued via the usual secured communication.
The only reason to bring all of them in is a for a political purity test and or mass firing.
I mean, theoretically, shouldn't a literal room full of top Generals be able to organize and have all their bosses placed under Military Arrest for issuing corrupt orders? Our soldiers are not supposed to obey corrupt orders.
My guess is Venezuela.
Aka: Martial Law
"remember in 2001 when we sent you on a pointless crusade against a nebulous idea? We're doing that again but harder."
Or something like making his horse a consul?
Maybe they're all getting a suprise ice cream party.
I'm thinking red wedding.
well the pizza index was high last night. that market's just opening so keep an eye
How high was the pizza index before us bombed Iran
This is 100% wishful thinking, but perhaps they're taking Russia seriously.
Fuck, I couldn't even muster the cope to think this might be true.
If they were taking Russia seriously, they wouldn’t consolidate the command of the entire US military into one base in Virginia.
Russia wouldn’t even need a nuke at that point. Just conventional bombs on a couple ICBMs or SBMs would effectively decapitate the United States government. Hell, just a few spies with a Uhual full of explosives could do it without risking retaliatory launches.
The idiot just rang the dinner bell for any foreign government that wants to cripple the United States. This order alone should be a fireable offense on the grounds that it blatantly weakens national security.
Not to mention the general softening of the battlefield with every other aspect of government serving the people being gutted.
More likely, he's giving the orders to invade Greenland, or Aberbooboo.
trump takes his orders from Putin, and as such he will be invading Norway
Well since we’re all here howabout a quick game of Frag the Drunk Nazi.
We're resegregating the military.
I am sure they will share it on signal again. If not it will get leaked real fast. These numpties could not keep a secret if their lives depended on it.
Military take over of sesame street
I fucking knew it
In construction we refer to this as a pizza party… pink slips to follow shortly. Hope you’ve been paying into that unemployment boys.
There’s a government shutdown looming, who’s to say it doesn’t have something to do with that? Y’know, since their paychecks come from the government.
The defense budget is basically unlimited
It's the department of war now, so calling it a defense budget seems wrong.
We invading Argentina?
Probably Illinois
If the drunk loser wants a war he can go himself, maybe he can finally get some qualifying experience and get shot a few times by the Taliban
Looks like we're headed to war......with Kerplakistan.
Is it a meeting or a happy hour?
Here's a good article on what this might well be about: https://www.jackhopkinsnow.com/p/how-to-read-hegseths-mass-recall
That article is honestly kind of nonsensical and reads like AI. What does Watergate have to do with any of this?
Nixon purged the DOJ to cover his ass from watergate.
Trump might be preemptively purging the DOD to cover his ass for a dictatorship.
I was a bit lost on what you are referring to... Is it these three lines as one of the mentioned historical echoes that aren't mentioned in the rest of the article?
If something else, it would be interesting knowing what.
And pure 100% conjecture. ChatGPT does a better job at citing.
It reads like an AI that had "write in the style of a crazy conspiracy theorist" as part of its prompt.
Is this going to be like Squid Game, Pentagon Edition?
This is one of those headlines that freaks me out, but ultimatly this meeting probably won't effect me in any way. This keeps happening. I should just stop monitoring this stuff.
They don't do this sort of thing. It's very convenient for avoiding a paper trail though. Don't need to send out a memo saying to gun down protestors, just tell them all to their faces.
One of the few things I trust the military to do is to have the high ranking officials know what constitutes an illegal order, and to ask for a written order to cover their own asses.
More trusting than I then. We will see.
Remember, I'm not saying they wouldn't do it, just that they wouldn't line up eyes open to take the fall if it goes sideways.
These are the people who in a very real sense give the government power against popular resistance. They're not going to agree to commit a crime without at least an assurance that the people they're doing it for go to the gallows with them.
Hell, the CIA put the name of the law they were violating right in the orders multiple times.
He wants to tailor butch new uniforms and enact stricter eye shadow guidelines?
Link to the leaks please
I read the comments and first of all—you guys are hilarious 🤣
So I'm going to be that guy and tell the truth: It's almost certainly related to what's going on with Russia invading Poland (or at least violating their airspace) right now.
No. There is zero reason to bring all generals in person over last week's drones.
I'm of the mind it's either a mass firing (they already put plans in place to cut the top 20% or so of military command) with loyalty pledge, going to full blown war, or a favor to Putin to take all of the US command down at the same time. From most likely to least.
Edit: Something else occurring to me now, would be a great time for Putin to attack NATO with everyone flying back to the USA.
I swear to god America IF that's what happens, you're going from schizo friend who is currently psychotic to outright, full blown enemy. I mean that. Every last one of you. Unless you actually do something.
Drones in Poland. A Russian warship discovered off the coast of Denmark, and drones buzzing Danish airports. An attack on NATO would make sense.
Russia's been invading every airspace around them for decades. It never triggered more than a "could you not?" reaction from anyone.
There's a promise to shoot down jets now