Marjorie Taylor Greene Calls For United States to Be Split Up, Declares Country ‘No Longer Safe’ For Anyone
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They really just can't comprehend that they're violent far right religious extremists...
Can they?
Like, if you translated what Christian Republicans and the Taliban wanted into a neutral 3rd language, I really don't think people would be able to tell which is which.
These dumbfucks don't even realize "God" and "Allah" are literally the same fucking dirty and they agree on 99.9999%.
It's like when one far right extremists shoots another far right extremist in the neck because there's 2-3 details they disagree on.
If anyone isn't exactly the same, they're "them" and an enemy.
If we did actually split the country, their side would just keep picking new groups to run out of their territory until there's no one left on their side.
Everything you said combined with a room temperature IQ.
And a large pinch of mental illness
It’s also interesting how her statements mirror leftist thinking on this:
Government won’t save you. Trust your neighbors and build mutual support networks.
A lot of these fucks come from backgrounds where such thinking is either the norm or was built up historically but largely forgotten in modernity. If you stripped them of the propaganda they would greatly resemble the union men and women of old.
https://youtu.be/l3fAcxcxoZ8
"it's not safe for anyone"...... Because you're actively making it that way, Margarine Thermometer Greed. Jfc conservatives are so fucking stupid and disingenuous. Repeated school shootings aren't a major issue, but as soon as the bullets start landing on them, the pearls get clutched. It's so transparent and pathetic.
Traitor was right there... 🤦♂️
😦
Look at the bright side.
At least Republicans are finally upset about a school shooting.
Split up the USA… who would benefit from that most? Ah yes Russia and China. As if any more proof that the US government are assets.
Regardless of what would benefit anyone, a (supposedly) democratic country cannot continue having such a massive divide between its government and its citizens. Something has to give.
I would hope the government would give. There’s a lot more of us than them.
Well, it's pretty clear that democracy is what we gave up.
I mean, have you ever worked on a Russian engine? They suck.
I kind of agree honestly. We dont have the kind of leadership that brings people together. We could have, but we dont. Until we have more Bernie Sanders types (aka, responsible adults who consider everyone a stakeholder) there is no hope for unity.
No way the red state faction stays peaceful, as soon as they fuck something up they'll deflect blame on to the blue state faction and start doing airstrikes on us to distract
e; Also, this red state faction could never ever ever be allowed to have a nuclear arsenal or we would all be very fucked, so that's another big hurdle to any kind of breakup plan
As soon as they realize all the money went with the blue states they'll start invading.
Exactly. The biggest reason the United States is a wealthy place with the ability to pay for a good social safety net* isn't because we have the best system of government or regulations or people or any of that nonsense politicians and pundits will say, it's because we never had WWI and II play out across our territory and we haven't had to waste a bunch of money protecting ourselves from Canada or Mexico.
Fuck a lot of what my country has done throughout history, but it's got a great foundation for building something that doesn't suck.
*Of course it's definitely not doing this currently, but there's potential here
Exceptionalists don't want to admit it, but that's only half the story.
The other parts are a large population, room to build new factories at will, and being the largest producer of oil in the world from the moment it became the most important resource in the world.
America has benefited from a century and a half long gold rush but the thing is it's running out.
Yes, but blue states also physically house or contain a massive amount of military hardware and bases.
For example, broadly speaking, there are not too many major naval bases in red states, there are not too many major army bases in blue states.
Where are which air wings, at the moment?
Which units and commanders pick which sides?
Who gets which nukes?
... Who knows?
We would be far from the first country going through a civil war or balkanization or coup or revolution or even the first time in our own history where things like this would come into play.
Also, it probably would be less about money, per se, as to where would be potentially invaded... as it would be... water, areas with any kind of major manufacturing hubs, extractable natural resources, arable land, large power plants, etc.
It is also highly unlikely that there would be a clean break along state boundaries... lines would almost certainly be redrawn, in one way or another.
They wouldn't be able to uphold the industrial capacity without blue states. At least Russia has oil and Siberian resources. The fuck would they have? Texas is barely holding together and oil extraction may not be maintained on a large enough scale and Alaska is weird and would probably join the blue states.
Lots of guns and zero humility or acceptance of their own mistakes. Also, Florida sinking into the ocean probably isn't going to make anyone in that territory more well behaved.
Also also - it wouldn't be fair to the rest of the world to let this red state country come into existence, because when they aren't attacking us they'd probably be flinging shit at places like Mexico and Cuba. Also, you know their environmental policies would be a fucking disaster that the global climate really can't afford.
Worst case scenario you chuck a couple sabateurs over the boarder and have them blow up the water infrastructure. Try being uppity without water.
In Republican's fever dream scenario, they'd consider splitting the nation up to be marooning 200 million people at gunpoint stranded to die standing room only on a military embargoed Puerto Rico. They'd call that perfectly fair and not mass murder.
Get your logic out of here as to why that isn't possible.
And as if they would even be content with their own land and wouldn't continuously try to spread their nonsense in every possible direction regardless of whether people want to hear it or not.
Source: am in Canada
We need to build.. a wall
/s
Oh, suddenly it's not safe for everyone when one of their own gets killed...
It's not safe partly because this treasonous little troll hasn't kept her mouth shut for the past dacade.
Well, looks like Putin's 4D chess worked even better than he could have anticipated. The US want to dissolve themselves now. Crazy how the world changed in just 10 years.
It’s not at all crazy- it’s been happening for two generations in slow motion with warning signs along the way. Literally everyone watching has been telling you you have been on this exact path for about 30 years.
You responded with “shut up, you’re America’s hat,” renamed french fries, and gradually got shittier from there.
Who are you talking to? Rupert Murdock?
Assholes like this crazy bitch have been saying this kind of thing for years.
I'm glad she doesn't feel safe anymore
That always works in horror movies to boost safety: let's split up!
We'll sacrifice the weakest states to survive.
so, beneath the sarcasm, you are very essentially correct.
So some statistics on MTG's 'No Longer Safe' for anyone:
https://web.archive.org/web/20250911012550/https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/what-nij-research-tells-us-about-domestic-terrorism
Huh....
Yeah... because of you...
The USA is currently united in the same way the DPRK is democratic, and Nazi’s are socialist.
Sounds like a scam.
Anyway, I don't think we should tolerate red states letting kids grow up hungry or get bullied to death.
That's what federation was for.
NGL, everyone here who is ready to throw the browns, gays, and neurospicies, and 70% bottom earning sapiens from half of u.s. states under the bus instead of slaying the gerrymander that's choking everyone to death...?
Idk. Sounds kind of like "If I sacrifice the other family to the face eating jaguar the face eating jaguar won't eat my face and my family next month."
Sounds too familiar. We all know how that goes.
Red states would probably let you emigrate, blue states would almost certainly let you immigrate. Your typo however, was an awesome mix of both words
Anyone under the delusion that splitting a country can be peaceful should research any split since the idea of nationalism took hold. India and Pakistan are still the odds on favorite to kill us all with a nuclear winter.
This reminds me of the spike in cellular biophoton emissions during mitosis.
Biophoton emissions, basically a faint glow of light emitted by living cells due to metabolic processes, increase sharply at the moment a cell replicates into two cells. It appears as a flash if observing these emissions.
There is a lot to learn about our ideal society by observing our biological processes. The human body is a good example of a functioning mass-scale social substrate. The representative sample that guides the body is billions of neurons. Considering a human body has around 37 trillion cells, and roughly 170 billion brain cells (86 billion neurons + 85 billion non-neural brain cells), that gives us around a 200:1 representative sample. For every 200 cells, there is 1 representative.
Fascinating, isn't it? Dunbar's number states humans can only keep track of a limited number of relationships. That number is a cognitive limit of around 150 stable relationships that we can keep track of. The limit's range has been stretched to 100 - 250 stable relationships.
In other words...the ratio of brain cells to other cells is nearly the same as Dunbar's number. It is reasonable to conclude, then, for a functioning society (because human bodies are far more functional than our planetary society), we need to have a ratio limit on representation. That limit is 200:1. For every 200 people, we need 1 representative.
For the US, for example, with 347 million people, a stable government would need 1.7 million representatives. Sounds crazy, doesn't it, compared to the ass backwards mechanism at play now? But think about it for a bit, and you will find why it is so stable.
That is too many people for an elite to control. It is too many to be corrupted. It adds redundancy. It adds direct accountability, each rep would have a personal relationship with their people, because it is within the Dunbar limit of what they can keep track of.
Something to think about.
Very interesting. The problem then is how 1.7 million people can do politics. How can they debate? How can the decide anything. I guess multiple levels? The 1.7 million are represented by 8500 and they are by 42.
Any level with a low number can be controlled by elites. Debate can be done on forums. Good ideas go up, bad ideas go down in flames.
Czechoslovakia was a combination of two historically distinct ethnic groups, so there was relatively little "sorting" during the partisan in the wake of the USSR's collapse.
Compared to the break up of Yugoslavia or the "Two State Solution" in Israel, it was utopian. But that's a hold over of the pre-WWs ethnic make up of these regions. You don't have anything like this in the much more internally diverse and mixed populations of the US.
Furthermore, over the last five years, the high rate of undocumented immigration and smuggling has lead to Czechnia tightening its border. We may see a rise in ethnic nationalism create friction in the future.
To add to the other response the leaders of both nationalities were veterans of the Prague Spring. They had no appetite for more violence. Could you truly say the same of the US?
Congratulations on finding a split I missed though.
States would have to be split as well, and random chunks of states. And soon as anyone says, "how do we split up the national debt" people would say huh, impossible to split.
Canada calls dibs on the west coast!
California resident here. I would be SO down with that- as long as there's an impenetrable wall to our East.
Pls take us Michiganders 🙏
Cascadia calls dibs on Canada 😈
You know, if you guys stop being so goddamned violent, everyone would be very safe.
JFC, this isn't rocket science.
As much as many of us would welcome it, the reality is that the new MAGA country would declare war on us immediately.
Lol, just using the same language where they justify bombing any other country. We have to kill them so they can have our freedoms.
Sounds like a win-win situation to me.
bingo
I like the idea of red and blue splitting up. Let's see how long those shit holes take to fester and rot from within. Red states are nothing but a drain. Fuck em.
Red states already suck and Texas oil isn’t about to solve that problem for the rest of them. They’d crumble immediately.
Unfortunately, the hypothetical blue nation would have a food problem, especially if some red parts of blue states go over. Both such countries would have serious issues.
West coast would be fine. California grows over 50% of the fruits and nuts, and 30% of the vegetables for the entire US. The "farm belt" states mostly grow cash crops for animal feed, energy production, and overseas export.
But how would eastern California go? I feel like if states were breaking from the nation, that eastern California is risky to go with the red half.
California farm country is loudly libertarian. And most of California. Not just yellowbelly flags, but coin operated toilets at fuel stations. Not kidding. The west coast is only blue in the cities.
All three countries, you mean. West, central, and northeast.
But we'd buy the food or offer to let a breadbasket join us as long as they abide our laws. Like a Puerto Rico but with flatlanders and a parent country that wants workers to be healthy earners for longer.
How can we save Colorado and New Mexico from this hypothetical "Central States of America" hell hole?
https://usabynumbers.com/states-ranked-by-agricultural-production/
The CSA would still need to sell their products.
Lol sure
As a show of good faith, call back ICE from all the blue states and never send them back
In that the two biggest calls for a split are from Elon and this hag, I'm going to say it's not in our best interests and work against it.
CASCADIA NOW!!!
I don't think that's such a bad idea. The richest states are blue, the poorest states are red. The entire country is a failed state already, might be good to start with a clean slate. And doing that without the need of a bloody revolution sounds good to me.
But the richest parts of the bluest states are bankrolling this administration. California's Silicon Valley is awash in fascism. New York's Staten Island has an enormous base of Trump support. Washington's Amazon, Microsoft, and Beoing C-levels are all in the tank for this administration.
Also, there are plenty of wealthy red states - Texas, Florida, Ohio, and Georgia are all in the top 10 by GDP. There are plenty of poor communities in these big red states that are disproportionately liberal.
There are plenty of purple states that can't be divided by trivially. What do you do with a Pennsylvania or Virginia or Wisconsin, with a divided government and regular partisan swing?
This wouldn't be any kind of clean slate. Everyone would still be carrying their political baggage with them.
And much of the economy of these states is interdependent. Water rights from the Mississippi and Colorado run through divided turf. California and New York both need access to ports along the Gulf Coast to operate solvently. "Fly Over" states like Iowa and Nebraska produce giant food surpluses. We still need all our transcontinental rail networks, highways, and airlines to function as state level economies.
This isn't a baby you can just split down the middle
So what alternatives would you suggest? All out civil war, or nuclear war with China or something?
Or just do nothing. Huff through it like we've been doing for the last 250 years.
That's far more likely than any radical geopolitical reorganization. Nobody in the US government with enough authority to affect a real secessionist movement actually wants a secessionist movement to exist. They all think they've got the next bite at the White House apple.
Hell, even in the OG Civil War, the first thing the Confederates did was march on Washington. The CSA never intended to be permanently divided. They were going to conquer and subjugate the north just as they'd subjugated Florida and Cuba and Texas and California in decades prior. The momentum among nations has always been consolidation. We only see break ups - like in the Balkins - when the central leadership of the domestic government is decapitated and a foreign country needs to divide in order to conquer.
Everyone wants to wave their fists at China. Nobody actually wants to stand up in that fight.
Douglas MacArthur learned that lesson far too well for any modern military leadership to seriously want to repeat it.
Doing nothing really helped during the 1930s in Germany. /s
Back then there were the mighty Soviet Union on one side and the massive war industry of the US on the other. Together, with other allied forces, they were able to fight back the nazis.
Right now, the fascists have the mightiest army. The largest and second largest airforces in the world (the airforce and the navy airforce). 11 mega carriers, military bases all over the globe.
Who's going to stop them? Euro forces are fragmented as everyone has their own materiel. China could stand up, but who wants them to win. I mean come on, it's China. Russia is depleted by Ukraine, plus fuck Russia. India couldn't care less.
That's a highly abbreviated view of history.
Germany wasn't just magically fascist one day during the 1930s. The country was heavily split between Soviet aligned KDR and Western aligned Conservatives, with Nazis playing both sides against the middle.
Americans like Ford and Prescott-Bush were very friendly with the German and Italian fascists before the war. Hoover was friendly with the Nazis straight into the first full FDR term. The Winter War heralded as a victory for capitalism in many corners of the Western world.
It wasn't until Germany invaded Poland that mainstream public sentiment turned. Even then, you needed Pearl Harbor to galvanize the US to enter a conflict the Soviets had been fighting for half a year.
They always did. US/UK have been fascist at least since McKinley. We were the bad guys during the Cold War. And while we won most of our battles, we ultimately suffered the same fate as our Soviet adversaries - corruption, insurrection, and capture by foreign intelligence services.
The worst enemy of the Nazi state was it's own leadership. They'd destroyed themselves from within before the first boots left German soil.
The country just took a decade to fall apart and killed 80M people as it came crashing down.
As neat as it sounds, the logistics would be a nightmare. Remember, Republicans don't follow the rules, so encouraging Democrats to leave the south is easier than having Republicans leave the west coast for example. They want things to affect us, not them.
I think the nightmare is the point. It's easy to do a lot of stabing and stealing in the middle of Changing Literaly Everything. Why don't we make ourselves vulnerable by putting everything in transition and see how much can get embezzled in a year.
DOGE mercs already walked out with any data they could get. Weird mozilla didn't e-mail me about the security breach./jk
Do it.
Blue states can grab the popcorn and watch red states cannibalize themselves.
But conservatives will use the federal government to go to war to keep the blue states....because they need us.
We don't need them.
chuckles in purple state
I'm in danger
Financially, culturally, technologically... no. We don't need red states. But we do need food.
Food is one of those ”strategic reserve” things, because you can’t just build farms and have them immediately start cranking out staple foods like a factory. The fed keeps strategic reserves of things that take time to create, but which have major short-term needs. A farm will take weeks or months to start producing, and farmers plan their crops literal years in advance.
And that “farms are only a few weeks away from producing” announcement is a cold comfort when people are hungry right now. Most of society is only about three days of missed meals away from violence.
The sad reality is that the south/central US produces a lot of food. Sure, there are other areas that food could be produced, but it’s not already doing so, meaning it would be useless in anything except the long-term. But in order to reach the long-term, you first need to deal with the short-term. And the short-term in this scenario has a lot of people going hungry.
Yes, but (at least according to the above split) the population density would wildly change. The central/south US exports a lot of food because they don’t have a lot of people to feed. California produces 13% of the food, but it also consumes the most because it has the most people. Same with places like New England, which would also be allied with (and thus need to be supported by) California.
The stats would suddenly skew towards the central US having a bunch of excess food per capita, while the east/west US struggled with long term food shortages, supply lines between the east/west through/around the hostile central US, etc…
California is 10% of the US population and produces 13% of the US food. Sounds to me like we'll be ok.
Of course, eastern California might split off to go red since that half of the state is pretty solidly red...
To the extent you have some food production, that population might be mighty grumpy at being more unambiguously a political minority.
It wouldn't be pretty...
Don't be reductionist.
DARVO detected.
...how? lol, you're an idiot
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO
I know what DARVO is, what it means, and I've experienced it before. You can't just throw it out there nonsensically and expect people to take you seriously. Have a nice day, please do better, thank you.
Indoor farming is a thing. Importing food from other countries is a thing (we do it already).
Cool. That will take 2 - 5 years to implement, if folx don't screw off too much.
She's right. It's not safe. Good thing her side gets all the deep red, gun-loving terrorists who've committed all of the recent atrocities. I'm sure her new country will be really safe with all those people in it.
I just don't understand how she sees this happening. We get the cities and they get the farms? She's such an idiot.
We get the healthcare, they got the food. We got the jobs, they got the ... food. We got the infrastructure, they got... hey guys you need to diversify here, we don't do trading imbalances and you're going to need MRIs
Me and the Union guys can renovate that office building into apartments, with a hydroponics farm in the basement, space for a doctor's office, maybe a makerspace and a few resident-centric server racks.
They've got... Dustbowls incoming and ammo stockpikes that may or may not wither during one hunting season or another.
Those hateful, violent psychos would probably blow that shit up just to make sure nobody has it.
1: plenty of nations trade for food
2: https://usabynumbers.com/states-ranked-by-agricultural-production/
Can't trade food for proper education or healthcare if everyone with a brain refuses to set foot in your god forsaken territory
Their large scale public infrastructure would break down within months unless they figure out that they need taxes to raise revenue to accomplish anything.
Jobs will inevitably pay more in more left leaning areas so there will be no work besides picking vegetables for $7/hr
Picking veggies pays way less than 7, it is piecework and it is less than a pittance.
It starts with her then gradually others "decide" (as if they don't already have this all planned the fuck out) to join her. Eventually other states kind of trickle away and Congress and just kind of agrees to dissolve the union.
Red states leave to form "super states"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union
Then this is just a guess but the combined National Guard of the new super states probably eventually just invade blue states regardless of if they try to hold out as part of the union.
Bc it seems like they've been training for this for a while. Blue cities in Red states being used to test authoritarian take over
Mississippi National Guard readies for disaster response drill
People in economically productive cities: "does this mean we can do a gun control?"
And stop sending our tax revenue to unappreciative red states who just take take take, and then whine about it while offering nothing of value.
If the US balkanized along party lines, it wouldn't even be months before they revert to a scavenger society carrying out raids on border towns, and begging bleeding hearts in blue cities for charity.
Begging? You mean come take whatever?
RedNation likes an excuse to shoot and loot. Divorce is just an othering tactic so Fascists can come 'forecefully reorganize' democratic neighbors.
Well yeah, that's what I said. Raids.
The beggars would be the very small contingent of Republicans who haven't completely given into the violence.
Ah who am I kidding
Yourself, mostly, but let's not lie in front of the youngs.
I appreciate the beneficent frame of mind it comes from.
I wish this cookie I'm offering you were actual, but is merely figurative.
let's be fair, this was over a single word.
I just... don't want people caught by surprise anymore. For all our sakes.
He was thinking either the British Empire would reconquer America or that he could never make abolition happen.
You never think she can top her own craziness, but she always find a way.
Shame on me for always underestimating her.
Except this particular idea isn't quite as crazy as her other ideas. It's really gotten to the point that the Red States and the Blue States lack a common purpose or any reason to be united. A gentle split into two countries, one founded on the principles of The Enlightenment and another with the laws and mores of Bronze Age herders- e. g. JesusLand, makes sense to me. As long as the latter doesn't have nuclear weapons.
MTG: Here's a thing Putin wants and coincidentally I want it too.
And Thiel and cronies
Not safe for whom? Is there a split that would divide Kirk and the shooter?
Dead/living
Nah. I personally am enjoying watching the Republican farmers suffer. It is cathartic to see them cry. It is a sliver of joy in my heart to watch them beg. Afterall, this is what they voted for.
Canada could annex the blue states and turn them into provinces...
The great lakes finally united
I declare myself a refugee. Can I get healthcare?
"annex" in the sense of "🥺️👉️👈️"
what people get from foreign invasions is a change of government, so they often even support this. but i doubt canada would be up for it, considering how much stress it could bring to them.
Mostly a comment about Trump's 51st state rhetoric.
Oh, then they could have a real war instead of a civil war, diabolical.
For once, I agree with her. Please let us leave.
only downside is throwing all the minorities in red states under the bus.
if that happens, I hope they get to flee to safety
honestly, they're already under the bus.
That’s the thing. Most black people live in traitor states. We’d have to get them out first.
I see this on signs outside sometimes. I always wonder where the fuck they think the line will be though... The people who believe this shit generally live in the middle of nowhere and all the cities are deep blue so there isn't a red state/blue state divide, it's basically the network city state thing the yarvinists want but even that makes no sense because there aren't really any red cities to form around
Shh, it will be funny.
The thing is the blue states will hold together just fine.
Let's let the red states do their crony network. See how long it takes the rurals to realize they've been played.
Literally fought the deadliest war in US history over this...
Which would matter if she cared about history. Or objective reality.
Don't threaten Republicans with learning history. These kids would be so angry if they could read.
Anyone else find it really jarring that MTG has some good takes here and there lately? First Gaza, now this? I mean, she's still clearly the same awful hag as always, but the cynic in me wonders if she's trying to rehab her image or something after all the heinous shenanigans.
Weaponized stupidly.
Agree, lets all stick the politicians and billionaires on an island in the pacific. Then America will be safe again.
There's an island many of them have visited frequently already...
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler Epstein island :::
I feel sorry for the Pacific.
Split into the conservative leecher states and the progressive earner states? How will they finance their new conservative utopia? Hate only feeds you that long...
slavery, then war, more enslaving, more war. repeat.
Oh fuck of course! I knew this shit was coming. This is exactly what happened in Russia.
Not a surprise bc the heritage foundation was behind that shit too
1989: A Republican in Moscow
1991: Russia House, Trading in Its Name
Paul Weyrich was the co founder of Heritage. One minute he was in Moscow teaching dissidents about holding elections and sneaking in computers and fax machines.
The next the Soviet Union had collapsed and the Heritage Foundation had helped create the first of its kind go between for U.S. and Russia business as Russia embraced "capitalism."
Real life fucking Hydra
The Heritage Foundation needs to be disbanded and treated like the terrorist organisation it is.
Yeah but it's not just Heritage. The offshoots that sprang from Heritage are like the entirety of the current Republican party.
Like that guy Paul Weyrich died in his 50s, but he helped create so much shit over his relatively short career. He also founded the Free Congress Foundation and the Council for National Policy, which is like the most shadowy organization of right wing extremists and business men. Somebody wrote a book about it a few years ago, Shadow Network
This isn't even his complete list of political affiliations
Anyone saying they agree with the idea shouldn’t be. It won’t turn out how you imagine if it actually comes to pass under this admin.
Pakistan and Palestine would like to weigh in
Even better. Slice it into three parts. East, west and middle.
East and west can be one and middle can be on its own.
Does this mean Dixie goes its own way with a shiny new government? Hmm.
I mean, slavery is technically over and you either believe in self determination or you don't.
if folks don't count unpaid prison work, underpaid disability work, wage gap, starving wages, immigrant labor abuse, outsourcing to "economic opportunity zones" where labor laws are suspended, domestic and sex trafficking ....
sorry, what were we on about?
As soon as they are free from the Federal government, at least some of those red states are going to reinstitute some form of slavery.
Sounds like a justification for an invasion to me
They'll literally need freedom
Does this mean they think they are going to lose it again and wants to ensure they get to keep half?
Indeed, with the Nazi-US GeStaPo roaming and randomly arresting, the USA is no longer safe. The MAGA States of America can keep them, so that normal people can live in peace.
Silly question. Would they get called NUSA (Not so United States of America)?
That isn't meme-able.
Needs to be some dumb shit like
FROG: Federation Reborn Outside Government
Then they'll share more Pepe memes
DSA (Divided States of America).
That would cost to much in rebranding. UnUnited States of America can still use the same T-shirts.
MTG basically wants North America to have small countries like Africa.
Agreed
I actually don't disagree (which is twice now that MTG and I agree on conclusions, albeit for incredibly different and opposed reasons--i can't tell whether this is just early onset dementia, which runs in my family after all), but i can't help but doubt she understands how utterly economically devastating this would be for red states. Nevertheless, sure, northeastern autonomy--from the tippy tip of Maine down to DC and west to Philly.
Economic devastation is an inevitable result of making policy divorced from objective reality. Let the religious lunatics feel the FO part of FAFO.
I am down with that, I'll stand with all the productive blue states, GOP Nazis can take the bible belt and Southern 'confederacy'.
I'll happily trade houses with someone in the West who wants to join their conservative bretheren.
Pretty sure they're going to form super states like post Soviet countries, weaken the remaining union as much as they can, and then send national guard from super states to invade blue states.
Fuck man, I'm in the middle of all that fucking bible belt out. you'll have a lot of us trying to get the hell out.
Honestly, we still are now.
Right? Guess we don't matter? Except if we leave, the random queer and neurospicy kids grow up with 0 examples and are completly PTSD'ed even if they do make it out.
Sounds great. /s
Too many people still intuit that people they percieve as stupid will produce inferior offspring. We're more like apple trees --- There are a lot of things can't be cut out of nature by humans even with crispr. There's a lot of emergence, and odds.
The first and last 6 minutes of Idiocracy need to be reshot to demo the effect of chronic poverty on human development instead of Eugenics "dumb ppl make dumb ppl like disney boygirl offspring looks like parents". All that environmental and emotional and nutritional neglect add up to medical grade damage for everyone, in diverse effect.
I don't disagree with that, but more to the point I was putting is there's going to be a fast refugee crisis for the blue states for those of us that see the writing on the wall if the states fracture.
I'll be honest... I HOPE I'm wrong... god I fucking hope I am... but I'm not seeing a "United States" being the case much longer after this administration. Partly being one living in this area... I do not see how we come back... there is no middle ground left.
There hasn't been that much real middle ground for a long time.
If the usa takes a hard left, and mean citizen occupation -- only a few useful people are running for typical election -- this fall coming next spring, we may trade a full blown, unchecked, fascism for a messy reconstruction.
Basicaly we may get a second chance to NOT DROP THE BALL on reconstruction, like after the civil war. (tl;dr Jim Crow won, with redline icing on top)
If fraudulent finance is still on control at capitals the coming summer, the evil will be entrenched, and it will be a lot more blood and ashes before we make it to warcrimes trials.
Sorry. I traded almost all my hope for scholarship. But I keep the kettle fresh, and sometimes the oil lasts an extra day, even if it's mere luck of helpful weather.
I also gave up on leaving and joined all the queer and smart clubs around. I try visit the metro to soak uo queer friendly culture regularly. Not like me leaving would fix anything. Not really even for muself, as hard as it is to make a relocation stick if you're not wealthy. And I like the biome I'm in anyway.
It would mean they get the means of food production.
Mtg like when pond scum catches the sunlight at golden and hour and just kind of completes the scene.
It's weird that this woman has said, four things I agree with lately, but in the light of full day pond scum is still pond scum.
Called this reaction from MTG, she's afraid the president kills her, like he did with Kirk.
What's this about the president killing Kirk?
Trump killed Kirk because Epstein.
This is my favourite rumour.
She's done it before.
I've been calling it the Untied States for months, I think few people have noticed
I don't think the country can afford to pay for everyone one to move to a star of their color choice.
You're forgetying we just do genocide rather than pay invoices.
Fascists would do the Trail of Tears again on a weekend just for fun. (Deathmarch)
It will be true that it will be way more expensive for Red Staters to move to Blue states. Since Red States already have shittier and weaker economies.
"Anyone" means her. O well
My little part of the world certainly isn't safe for her specifically.
Hmm glad those states aren't on board with some kind of far right conspiracy plan.
Mississippi National Guard readies for disaster response drill
No idea if this is just coincidence, but kinda weird this "drill" took place a few months ago on the border between TN and MS right outside of Memphis. Where Trump currently happens to be deploying the national guard...
How would it work exactly? It's not like most people could just up and move. Unless you do it by id system. Blue you get out in a national healthcare type system. Red you keep paying the health insurance companies.
Blue vs blue crime, blue judge. Red vs red, red judge. Red vs blue crime the criminal to go face whatever the victim or plantiff is.
But as far as a leading president, no idea how that would work
Yeah, people are gonna have to move if they want, just like they can now but with a deadline.
Yeah it's gonna suck.
Then Republicans best get on board with huge handouts to help with this move. For everyone. They do that. Fuck ya I'll leave. Hopefully Colorado would be a blue state
You mean making a dreamboard and doing research but then all your money gets eaten up by car repairs, healthcare gaps, and little emergencies because living options are actually for the middle class? And minimum wage is for starving a little with too many roommates?
Careful what you wish for.
I agree, you can go to Greenland with the rest of your wacko cultists and the rest will stay here.
I don't think Greenland would welcome them.
wdym? They would definitely send a welcoming party
That cunt gives Sasquatches a bad name.
She's not wrong. I don't understand why our country hasn't gone through divorce hearings yet.
Awesome, let me know when the estate sale starts.
If a blue country does come about. , let's just all agree religious places of worship are just banned and religion is never talked about publicly. Anything public is a heavy fine.
Intolerant hate speech is also no longer allowed except towards nazis
And religion, apparently
France's right to freedom from religion seems a decent starting point, though I think it needs some work in regards to religious dress.
Banning religion really isn't a good idea. Look at what happened in the Soviet Union. But banning and rigorously enforcing religious interference in politics is a much more sensible and fair strategy. It's also one that the United States used to have until numerous administrations refused to enforce the ban.