Rep. Mace to introduce resolution authorizing Charlie Kirk to lie in honor at U.S. Capitol
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Politics aside, this is extremely sad and pathetic. Something is very wrong here. Far beyond politics.
This is their martyr to do everything they want. This won't end.
Correct, they will beat this dead horse into oblivion to try and make him their martyr. I am hopeful it isn't going to work though. There'll be some fanfare for the next week or two, but it should calm down
Agreed. Should dump the remains in a hole, cover it up and forget the spot like a shit in the woods. Pretty sad that the people responsible for running the country (in theory) are wasting time on him.
Oh it's not just theories, they are running it... to the ground !
Wdym "politics aside"? All this is is politics
It’s really crazy how he is being treated as if he was a high ranking military officer or an elected politician. He was just a hateful guy with a podcast.
This is the face of extremism- falling over each other to be the most subservient and loyal to the cause. It's groupthink in a nutshell, they egg each other on and compete to be the most extreme because if you don't shout hard enough then maybe you're a traitor.
This is how you get nazis and holocausts.
I was about to post the same thing.
Its a fucking charade. a desperate downward theatrical spiral to show who can be the most ridiculously "True to the cause" because the person/persons who show the least effort will inevitably become the out group.
It is not just about being a traitor or not. This attempt at declaring this guy a martyr is basically trying to prove you are one step more extreme than him on a meta level so you can absorb his influence and supporters to your being.
It’s because conservatives legitimately don’t actually know the difference any more. There are several people in my town who have their flags at half mast.
They think Donald Trump is a great leader, and they probably see him as a great “military officer” too.
The rules have changed.
It's like seeing those crying people in North Korea after Kim Jong Il died, it went on for months and was so over the top theatrical. It's how indoctrination works. The most extreme view becomes the line which if you don't exceed excludes you from the group and makes you a target.
The thing is, he's a nobody. But it only takes one of the cultists tearing their hair and making him out to be a martyr for the next to try to outdo it to show how even more patriotic they are, and it snowballs into this moronic shit where you get hundreds then thousands then tens of thousands then hundreds of thousands then millions of people basically canonize some random asshole.
They've lost all grip on reality.
You sure that wasn’t for 9/11?
Yes, sadly. The same people still have it at half mast, and it’s 9/12.
People around here have also never put their flags at half mast for 9/11, they actually don’t put their flags at half mast for literally anything at their houses. Post offices, schools, government buildings, and some businesses, yeah. Houses, no.
So this is extremely performative for certain conservatives.
Wait people have full on flagpoles in front of their houses? That is not normal human behavior, I must emphasize that.
Oh definitely! Plus, tons of people who don’t have a full-on flagpole still hang a flag outside their house at all times.
The people who live across from me put up a comically-tall flagpole after Trump won last year… the first flag on it was a Trump flag. They now have an American flag up all the time (and it’s currently at half mast).
They’re all totally bizarre. Rarely have bad Americans announced themselves so clearly, right in front of their houses.
Oh yes. I can think of several houses with them.
I know one that has the US flag at the top, then a Trump flag right below it. Every time I go by the house it's there.
The sad part is we don’t even know anymore. It’s probably a mix of both
We havent viewed good people as good for society for some time and times have been good enough to only focus on petty shit. So they want to pretend that they have been special and amazing just for complaining constantly and making large amounts of money as that is what we say is useful to society.
They need to lie to themselves that what they are doing is good to keep themselves as self hyped as they can. Look at how Trump keeps worrying he is rightfully going to hell. They need to tell themselves and apparently the rest of us that what they are doing is good for the world cause they dont want to do anything else.
He was brainwashing kids and pushing Shitler approved propaganda
To be fair, given how Lemmy is filled with posts about this guy he wasn't "just a guy". Must be even more scary on more popular platforms. Really, you better stop praising him.
Because he was a racist who was treated like he is going to resurrect today.
If Charlie Kirk gets entombed in a place of honor I'll make it my life's mission to excavate that fucker's body in the least respectful way possible.
That's a gofundme I can get behind.
I will donate a jar of piss. I'll piss in a jar. And then figure out a way to transport that.
What happens with that, and Kirks grave, is beyond what I can control. Do with it as you will.
Don't worry. Nazis were also given honorary graves during the second World War. Look how many of those survived after 1945. In the end nazis will lose and everything they created will be destroyed.
This is correct, and it’s legitimately insane to me that the Nazis themselves never see it.
In fact, they will completely deny it afterwards.
I recommend reading They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-1945 by Milton Mayer. This is my favorite quote but the whole book was eye-opening:
"They said the leopards would solve the problem of having too many faces, but I never imagined they'd eat my face!"
There is no guarantee that they will lose, that's the problem. Give them enough chances, they only have to win one time and that will be it. One could argue they already did, because democracy and rule of law are not in effect any longer, there is only one way this can still be stopped.
Look at the history. Shit like this always happens. They rise, then they fall. The world gets right, then gets left. It gets a mess, then it gets stable. Etc etc etc
Edit: the bad part is that it will always come at a great cost. So right now it's the question what the price will be, that we as humanity will have to pay. We can go as far as mass extinction these days. I thought we couldn't go there, as during the cold war we didn't either. But now that I know how close we came, what tiny things there were that prevented it... Right now we have a lot more radical, religious and dumb people in places of power. I don't know man.
But if it doesn't come to that, it will go back to the left but goes too far, then it will go more to the right again but people still remember so it won't go too far right, then people see it doesn't work and chose a more stable left. Then there will be a period of stability, until everything starts to happen all over again. It's our human nature.
Is there a male equivalent to "Ding, dong, the witch is dead" one could sing/sound/play in hearing range. I found the British way of dealing with Thatcher that way inspiring.
Kirk was so unpopular I'm willing to bet singles and EPs are being written as we speak
Comparing the two is insulting. She was an actual head of state and a true force of evil, this chump was a two bit podcaster, he deserves neither half flags, having a state burial, nor having any type of songs written about him.
Jesus christ, you're playing into their hands.
I don't like being a tinfoil hat guy, but I can't help wondering who this benefits the most. Sure seems like the right is capitalizing on this very quickly.
Other countries could be involved, it could just be a crazy person with a gun, it could be someone who hated his hateful messaging. We don't know.
How about we minimally figure out what actually happened before honoring a podcaster, who got killed, like he is a war hero?
It's reasonable to expect that the conservatives have expected a significant shooting of a right-wing figure was inevitable in the US, and had strategies discussed beforehand to capitalise on the occasion. No need for tinfoil hats.
No strategies even necessary, they are all on board with the fanaticism. They don't even need martyrs, they demonize the left constantly, it's like with narcissists- they accuse you of shit constantly and feverishly, and the one time you actually do happen to be guilty of something that is judgment day and proof of everything else they made up about you.
It's how witch processes go, it's how holocausts go, it's how fascism always goes.
How good a shot was it?
The guy who went for trump took a number of shots and missed (mostly). I don't know enough about guns to understand how hard it was to one shot CK from the distance he was with a rifle.
I've heard they'd at least have needed an hour of practice.
That's dumb. That was a decent distance, people make it sound like it's some super simple shot. You'd need more practice than "an hour"...
I was thinking that the other day. The GOP are talking about ramping up the violence. This will lead to martial law. This is the final step in project 2025 before destroying democracy in America.
I guess that's on-brand for this administration. His sole contribution to society was to piss people off for money by making a lot of stupid noises. It seems to be the only thing they respect.
TIL. Thank.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Wessel
Nothing says "cannon fodder" like this over-the-top response to his death.
I think when senator McCain, the veteran and hero, died, they insulted him.
Oof. MC Cain was a vet and a pow. Hero is a bit far. He got shot down on a mission he wasn't supposed to be on, in a plane any other pilot wouldn't have been allowed near after crashing 3 prior to that and his demand was only possible because his daddy got put in charge of Vietnam after he was captured and told the enemy his dad was in charge.
It's like one of those rare times where nepotism and ego actually worked out ok.
He saved the affordable care act with his thumbs down mavrick move. I'd say that qualifies
No that's a political ploy and apparently one you bought and regardless we're talking about his military career.
Okay but he was a lot more civilised than his successor...
That's not heroic that doesnt even imply he's a decent person just less shitty then the one before.
You can bend over backwards to call the guy a hero but you're going to have to chop that definition down until your cashier is a hero because they didn't steal your change.
I don't think I called him a hero?
You didn't but that also means you aren't following the conversation.
https://lemmy.ca/comment/18901984
True. My lemmy client is crap. Doesn't show the full context. Sad!
Why not, he lied everywhere else he went
Someone please play yakety sax while this is happening
Or sad trombone
Or any other number of sonic shitposts
Carotid Artery Charlie: he lived by the shitpost; he died by the shitpost; his memory will be made fun of in shitposts.
Fucking clown world
I was wondering where the urinal was in DC
Oh, nancy, being loud and obnoxious like kari lake isnt going to get you on TRUMPS favour.
She won’t even be able to get close on her knees anymore, I doubt the 79 year old still gets hard
if he takes cialis.
So they can hide the Epstein Files in his casket?
They can use his corpse to build a fountain with the water shooting out his neck.
What a disgrace
what a joke
They lay his ass in state at the capital and somebody is going to set it on fire.
promise?
I'm not allowed near hydrocarbons after the Paris thing... but I'll see what I can do.
Did she spray-tan herself pink to match the dress? I can't tell if that is a natural skin tone
She's turned that carnivore diet pink.
This would be a good remembrance statue
What does it feel like to suck so bad?
Gross.
What a disgrace.
Is he getting a state funeral at this rate?
Scum
He lied about everything else but he does not deserve to lie there.
I don't see what's Oniony or even unexpected about this. He'll join the ranks of e.g. Huey Long.
Hey, Huey did shit still. This guy wasn't even useful enough to be truly corrupt.
seems fitting to bury him with the other fascists
so where's the new shitter? in DC? road trip
How is this not the Onion
THE NATION OWES ETERNAL DEBT TO THIS HERO OF THE REPUBLIC, THIS GUARDIAN OF THE FLAG, THIS MARTYR OF THE UNION, THIS SAINT OF THE CONSTITUTION WHO CARRIED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ON HIS BLUE RED WHITE STRIPED SHOULDERS, WHOSE FACE SHALL BE ENGRAVED ON THE MOUNTAINS AND WHOSE NAME BE SUNG BY ANGELS AS HE ASCENDS THE HEAVENLY THRONE TO BE EMBRACED BY THE ONE TRUE LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS SACRIFICE WRITTEN WITH ASTRAL FIRE AND FOREVER ECHOED THROUGH THE CHAMBERS OF POWER AND ANNALS OF HISTORY AND RETOLD BY THE LIPS OF PATRIOTS FOR MILLENNIA!
...because I was being completely serious, of course.
You sly dog
Hey, being a conservative Christian on here is my job!