Spyke

Surprised I hadn’t seen this emoji representation of Trump before, it’s perfect 🫲🍊🫱

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lemmings.world

I'm honestly torn. Trump is definitely being "handled" by the Project 2025 architects (the Heritage Foundation), but he is such an idiotic narcissistic ass that he also tends to fuck their plans up a bit. Vance, on the other hand, will be a dutiful little soldier boy, and not get in their way so much - which is why the HF got Trump to pick him despite the bad blood between them. I'm really a bit more scared of that - kind of a "be careful what you wish for" situation.

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lemmy.world

You're forgetting that cults don't continue when the leader is gone. Trump doesn't his entire life getting people to believe him and love him or hate him he is good at it. Vance sucks. No one likes him and he will not be able to continue the grift when Donny dies. They have no one past him that can handle the base and the party. There is going to be a lot more pain when he is gone because of all the fighting. Better case unfortunately would be for midterms to happen then he dies then at least there's a chance the GOP won't have full control over the government

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That's kinda what I mean - if Trump dies now, the HF still has plenty of time left before the midterms to do the most damage possible using Vance. I'm sure they have their marionette strings tied to enough Republican Congress critters to get their stuff done even without Trump's bullying & they can coach Vance on the rest. If Trump goes, I think I'd rather it be a LOT closer to the midterm election.

ETA: Don't forget they're the party in power, and can change all sorts of things that will affect their chances in the election, too. Those things don't have to hold up legally, just cause legal delays that let them keep power.

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Buffaloxreply
lemmy.world

All true, but we are very near a point with USA where Vance doesn't need a cult following, he can rule as a dictator supported by oligarchs. He already has the military and intelligence services and the supreme court. The rest will follow, as resistance is weeded out by those powers.

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midwest.social

That is the goal of Project 2025 and the Heritage Foundation.

The goal isn't so much who leads it, as long as it's the wealthy white Christian Nationalists.

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Buffaloxreply
lemmy.world

Oh yes, I don't think Trump planned this alone, he simply doesn't have the brains for it.

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Trump, like the other billionaires involved in HF, definitely had a part in crafting it.

Probably less of a "this is how we do it" and more of a "who do I have to grift to get what I want?"

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I agree. Hopefully without popular support we could get his grip to crumble from within if enough people despise him both internally and externally.

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foggyreply
lemmy.world

Yeah but MAGA doesn't have cult leader boner for Vance. They wouldn't let him shit in their mouths. Trump on the other hand...

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lemmings.world

They're still going to be loyal to the party because they've been brainwashed to think Democrats (who are unfortunately the only other viable option) are out to destroy them & their way of life. It's gonna take a long time for that to wear off for any significant number of them - during which time another acolyte may be found to carry the torch.

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foggyreply
lemmy.world

I disagree. As I said, they will not let Vance shit in their mouths.

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I think the cult will carry a torch for Trump, and Vance - as Trump's "chosen" successor - can be coached by the HF (likely already has been) to rally the troops effectively enough to achieve their goals. I agree Vance is likely to fuck something up enough eventually to turn the base off, but not right away - and that's possibly just enough time to do a lot more damage.

Don't get me wrong - I hope I'm wrong and you're right - but I just can't be sure, and so am hoping for the best while planning for the worst.

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LOGIC💣reply
lemmy.world

I don't want Trump dead. I want to see him pay in some way for his countless crimes.

If he just dies because he's old, then he's never faced any justice.

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lemmings.world

I would prefer that, too, but reality is that's extremely unlikely to happen. As such, I'm more focused on getting through this so the damage can be undone as quickly as possible.

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LOGIC💣reply
lemmy.world

He's been convicted of 34 felonies. If he is removed from his position due to poor health, for example, he can at least be sentenced.

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I think the incredible amount of shit he's been able to get away with demonstrates that there's virtually no chance of him being removed from office by the current Congress. He could probably murder someone, and as long as they were unimportant to Republicans he'd get away with it.

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jballsreply
sh.itjust.works

He already was sentenced for that. He can't be re-sentenced. Unfortunately.

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How did I miss that? I thought his sentencing was simply delayed. "Unconditional discharge"? Fuck that.

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piefed.social

He wasn’t sentenced (given the terms of the punishment) yet right? The judge, put that step on hold for after his term.

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No, unfortunately it was not a hold. It was an unconditional discharge. Basically a sentence of nothing. There will be no consequences for him committing all those felonies.

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There's a pretty high chance that he will go unpunished until the day he dies, so you're going to want to plan for getting justice in other ways. Probably from people who are still alive at that point.

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Cybersecreply
piefed.social

I have no hope for him to face real punishment. My greatest hope is that her suffers real badly in the polls and is terribly unliked - so badly his consonant dissonance has to be at full steam trying to gaslight out of it.

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cowfodderreply
lemmy.world

I also don't want him dead. I want him locked in after a massive stroke.

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He could be double locked in. Locked in syndrome while locked in prison.

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With his caretakers who are relatives of those he whose lives he ruined and secretly torture him whenever no one else is around and he can't tell anyone.

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LOGIC💣reply
lemmy.world

The same could be said for any crimes, yet we still punish those criminals. I simply think he should be held to account like any other human would be.

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igloureply
programming.dev

At this point it is more important to not have him damage the world any further than to get justice. I'll be happy if he stops being president even if he doesn't get any sort of justice coming for him. This just has to stop.

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They won't get far without the support of Americans. Vance won't rally the Trump cultists.

It's not an actual dictatorship. Yet.

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lemmy.ca

There are more important things than that you get to see an old man unhappy. In the grand scheme, it doesn't matter compared to the ongoing global chaos and harm to humans.

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Punishing Trump is about the ongoing global chaos and harm to humans. The people most responsible for perpetrating these crimes see themselves as beyond the law. They need to see that there are lines that, if they cross the line, they will die in disgrace like a common criminal.

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Notyoureply
sopuli.xyz

What the fuck was he reviewing? I watched a couple of his food reviews before, but never had the honor of seeing whatever thing from Popeye's.

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I went and did the work I should have before asking. It wasn't their chicken sammy, it was the cheddar biscuit butterfly shrimp.

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Well JD said he was ready to step into the president's position. Maybe he was disappointed, or ahead of himself a bit.

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If I won the $1B powerball and Trump also died, Im confident I know what Id consider to be the best thing to happen to me this week

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I forgot that I even bought a ticket because I was so excited about the mere prospect of that bastard dying

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seathrureply
lemmy.sdf.org

Yeah, his makeup actually extends back past his ears. Which means some other poor soul probably had to do it.

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null_dotreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Nah, I think there's a pretty narrow window on the "stroke seriousness" spectrum which would allow you to be walking around but still have "stroke energy" just several days later.

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arrow74reply
lemmy.zip

Window is expanded when you have immediate access to the best Healthcare possible

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somewhat perhaps, but I still think most strokes are either unnoticeable or catastrophic.

If he was effected they wouldn't let him shuffle around tripping over stairs and what not.

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My grandpa has had a few strokes over the years. He's still going and it's not very obvious that he would have had a stroke let alone multiple.

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He probably just stuck his head further into the horse feeding bag full of Cheetos that the White House kitchen prepares for him each morning for breakfast.

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Good, shouldn’t be quick Though, ideally he’d be grossly physically disabled but still cognizant, at least in so far as he currently is

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lemmy.wtf

This is unfortunate news. Though I've read that the black hand can be a sign of heart failure.

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Dropping dead of organ failure is the single patriotic duty he could ever perform in his life. Bone spurs won't save the bastard this time.

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I saw people saying on Bluesky that this was from a month-old video, can anyone confirm?

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Let's hope so. He is the oldest president ever elected, so there's a solid chance.

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WindyRebelreply
lemmy.world

You’re right they used a cropped old photo, but are you saying he can’t wear the same outfit or ride in the same vehicle he did a few years ago? He’s old and probably a creature of habit, he might have superstition around clothes in sports and the cars may be part of his usually fleet.

I get what you’re saying, but it sounds a little conspiratorial to me.

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oxomoxoreply
lemmy.world

Such a confusing take. You start by saying they used old photo, which is my point, as they are claiming this photo is proof of life, since he hadn’t been seen in three days.

Then you insinuate I am saying it’s not possible for him to wear the same clothes or ride in the same car as 6 years ago.

Sure it’s possible that this is all coincidence and yep he’s got the same SUV and the same clothes and the photographer had to stand at the same location.

I just think the probability is lower that this is proof that Trump is prancing around golf courses kicking balls closer to holes. Just seems a little odd.

Like the probability that someone gets grazed by a bullet and the wound magically disappeared or that politicians create fake files planting the presidents name in them for 30 years. Sure, could happen…

My point is something’s fucky with this whole thing.

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WindyRebelreply
lemmy.world

I’m saying that you posted two articles as proof while calling out the article linked here that had a cropped photo of something that happened in the older article you linked.

I am pointing out that this photo:

And this photo/video:

…are different. Similar, yes, but different. The second is what was cropped for the originally linked article.

I don’t understand what is fucky about the media choosing photos they want for whatever clicks or emotions they want to evoke. This is how it always works.

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oxomoxoreply
lemmy.world

Imagine if you will a scenario in which a photographer, taking more than one picture of an event in time. And then stretch that imagination a little further that said photographer could release some photos in 2019 and then other photos from the same event 6 years later. Then imagine, just for shits and giggles, that a president has a team of people who are managing public perception.

Just so we’re clear my point is it’s weird, not proof of anything, just really fuckin weird considering this guy’s history.

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I understand what you’re saying, but I just don’t think it’s that weird.

The photo in the original says “White House Press Pool” attribution underneath it. I think they just chose a photo without thinking much about it because that’s what the White House released. 🤷‍♂️

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

To be fair, the proportions on the Suburban with the plate ending on 002 are weirdly different. Look at the distance between the recess where the plate goes and the tail light. There's also some weirdness with the top of he hatch. It could be something to do with the angle (or a different model of Suburban), but it could also easily be an image generator's shitty job of trying to maintain a source image and losing the proportions.

Obviously that's not any kind of certainty, but I'd be interested to see the source video that the more recent image was taken from.

Actually, there's a lot of weirdness with this image. Where's the Suburban's tailpipe? Why is the "Suburban" text in the second SUV straight-on rather than at an angle? Did the stairs move? What's going on with the lady in front with knees at two different heights? Why does the guy next to her look like he intentionally twisted up his pant legs as much as possible? Whose head is that poking up from behind it looking like they're standing behind an object with no depth whatsoever? What's with the inverted and blurred reflection of the guy standing behind the first SUV in the same pose as the first image? Why does the guy standing next to Trump have his hand cupped behind his back like he's doing sleight of hand? Why is the Chevy logo on the front car smaller and not centered over the license plate?

Maybe it's just a case of looking at an image for AI generation markers and finding a bunch of things that are actually more normal than they seem, but it certainly does make me wonder.

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WindyRebelreply
lemmy.world

Yeah, it’s all entirely possible. I am just questioning probability. We will see though because you can’t hide something that big (e.g., a death) for that long.

The photo you’re commenting on, btw, is from 2019. The top photo is the more recent one. (Edit: yeah, I’m wrong about this - see below).

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Hazelreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

You've got that backward.

https://sports.inquirer.net/367910/trump-tees-it-up-with-hall-of-fame-golfers-player-sorenstam

https://sports.inquirer.net/files/2019/09/trump-golf.jpeg

This is the 2019 image. It's even in the url.

I managed to find a video from a different angle that Fox released, but you can't really see his face. When he stops to talk, someone moves directly between his face and the camera, which then focuses on her face while zooming, and she stays still until he moves again. When half of his head is visible above the car, the camera doesn't refocus and you can't really make his face out, so it literally could just be anyone.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/videos/president-trump-spotted-leaving-golf-213841602.html

Not to say it certainly isn't him, but it's not exactly substantial proof.

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Ah yes, you’re absolutely correct. That is my mistake and your observations are good ones to definitely scrutinize.

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Uff he’s ancient. He needs to be poopin’ his pants at brunch somewhere with his grandkids screaming “grandpa smells again!” in public really loud, not making a fascist power grab.

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Pfft, I doubt his offspring would trust having that paedo near his grandkids.

"Now, listen, do you remember the rules?"
"Yes, mummy"
"What are they?"
"Don't ever be alone in a room with GrandNazi. And don't ever get into 'grabbing' distance no matter what."

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It’s crazy how I sound like a conspiracy theorist when I say this doesn’t look like him. His nose and neck look off. As another mentioned his makeup looks too good.

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kbin.earth

I caught a bit of the speculation, in the form of a couple threads of people joking how nice it would be for him to pass on a long weekend so they could really party.

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lemmy.zip

I'd be a little bummed, personally. I already get the day off. I want a new day off when he dies!

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I'll wear an adult diaper and shit it during the funeral. It's what he would have wanted. 🤧

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He must be so pissed off we are all laughing and joking about his death. I for one hope he is still alive just to see us revel with glee at the idea of his passing. He deserves it soooo much!

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Devastatingly tragic to hear that the cancer that is killing America still exists.

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It was wonderful to see america regain their hope, even if only for a few short days.

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lemmy.ca

Posts on Reddit saying those were photos from a few years ago. Did they just use stock photos or is the child rapist in a fridge somewhere?

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The photos are current, as far as I can tell - there's many different outlets reporting on this and that all have similar photos, especially with the age of his grandchild who is also in the photos. He's not dead, damn it all.

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Has there ever been an American market President that so many are actively hoping keels over.

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lemmy.today

I totally Missed this whole thing! WTF. You guys need to send more updates and such. Imagine the lost opportunity to feel that emotion temporarily!

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Sorry bud you missed out on your dose of hopium :(

I enjoyed it for a bit, just refreshing my feeds hoping to see the big headlines.

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Its one clip and it keeps surfacing. Its an old clip. Keep holding onto that 10 seconds of video footage MAGA... thats all you got left.

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feddit.nl

Wut. He was seen in talks with like a dozen EU leaders, what, last week?

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ikiddreply
lemmy.world

And the pope met with JD the day before he cratered. Your point?

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I'm thinking of a t-shirt with a body hanging by it's entrails from a lamppost. Caption:

"Has he chosen his lampost yet?"

I'm sure someone will come up with something better.

#DICTATORPICKSHISLAMPPOST

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After reading that, some wild and ungrounded part of my brain: Putin used the Russian version on him of whatever Vance used on the Pope!

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The corpse of Donny 2 Dolls, just keeps getting dragged out by the Heritage Foundation a la Weekend at Bernies.

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This was just some nerd saw Valkyrie for the first time and made a twitter post.

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C'MON Donny!! It's time to bring out the lemonade with cyanide. Time to partaaaay with all your magat shitbirds.

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lemmy.world

Any group sufficiently large will have some dipshits. The concern is how seriously they are taken. Nobody actually believed that Trump was dead just because pizza orders were active around the Pentagon, it was mostly wild speculation and macabre humor. You won't ever silence all the morons, but if you maintain a healthy sense of skepticism and critical thinking, then there's no reason to be embarrassed.

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Nobody actually believed that Trump was dead

I got up to 1% after the obviously not him (alleged) truth social post.

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