DHS Secretary Noem says entire southern border wall will be painted black to stop people from climbing it
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Can we stop posting this everywhere?
It isn't like a random Lemmy comment is going to do anything
It keeps people remembering that this is a distraction from the Epstein stuff. A useful reminder, I'd say.
The reality is that the Trump administration doesn't care
You are just spamming. They will not released the files because they would incriminate Trump and some of his backers. It is messed up but the truth is sometimes hard to hear.
Which is precisely why we will never stop demanding the truth.
People will eventually move on
Maybe I'll be surprised but somehow I don't see Trump releasing incriminating evidence against himself.
You'll move on as well. Block them if you don't like it.
The reality is that we don't actually need to wait for the epstein files to be released. We know Trump is a child rapist.
That is exactly my point
The files are going to reveal that the mega wealthier did terrible things. (shocker)
I don't get why people are bent over the Epstein files. There are way more important things to protest like ICE and the attacks on the ICC.
ICE and the ICC target his lieutenants. Epstein targets the fucker himself.
Take down ICE, and he commits his next atrocity with FEMA, or DEA or the Bureau of Land Management.
Take him down, and Corporal Couchfucker can't hold the GOP together.
The couch fucker has all the real money and power behind him. If you think these MAGATs die with Trump, you are gonna be disappointed. We need to crush them in 2026, and if we can’t I’m gonna flee.
I don’t know, man I take issue with a child fucker leading the United States, your priorities may be different, you’re a little bit weird Iwill say that
No
It made me smile and reminded me that Trump is scum.
I'm not doing this because I think Trump will read a Lemmy comment and decide to turn himself in. I'm doing it because I'm pissed off and I want to associate every possible bit of news about MAGA politics with this. They shouldn't be allowed to get away with distracting people, and we should be allowed to express that we're not being fooled, even if it's ultimately just a gesture.
I smile every time I see it, knowing that there are still people not falling for his BS. :)
I want those files like Jonah Jameson wants pictures of Spider-man
As soon as the people in the Epstein file are arrested and go to court then sure.
Why bro, are you on the list, you’re starting to sound an awful lot like Trump right now you weirdo
Ok Epstein.
The bigger issue is that blind people can't read it.
It makes me happy to see the depth of the down votes on your comment.
If they make the wall black, won't ICE try to deport it?
No, but the cops will burn through their entire budget on ammo shooting at it, and several of them will need time off to recover from shouting "stop resisting" too much
Request for medical leave states: Officer suffered vocal chord damage while responding to shootout. 6 to 8 weeks of paid leave.
Add it to the pile of really obviously stupid ideas that can be thwarted with 3 seconds of thought...
The issue isn't about thwarting the plan. The Wall already doesn't work. Even conservative think tanks will admit to that much.
The issue is coming back to The Wall as a cultural rallying point. Build it 10' taller. Build two walls. Put turrets on the walls. Patrol with drones. Add more barbed wire. Unleash sharks with laser beams on their heads into the Rio Grande. Litter the border with radioactive waste.
Anything to get people to turn their eyes south and say "Aaaah! Invasion! It must be stopped!" The Wall is just the latest panacea for a problem these people invented. They're going to keep coming back and re-imagining it in between cooking up increasingly elaborate hoaxes about armies of brown people marching across it to Steal our Freedom.
The percentage of the population for whom 3 seconds of thought is too much to ask is disheartening. But also nothing new.
It's not the quantity of thought but the quality that disturbs me.
It's literally the wall song from Hadestown.
So good Mexico hasn’t learned about gloves yet… or you know… night time. Phew. Close one.
Or ladders, or rope, or digging, or the many other ways they have bypassed and overcome the new sections of wall already.
The whole approach is so backwards. The drug war and neocolonialism have pushed many of USA's problems to Mexico, so many Mexicans wish to move to the US to escape those issues. Best solution: legalize and regulate drugs, treat your addicts, help Mexico to put down the cartels, and work to build a tight friendly partnership with Mexico - a very significant trade and cultural partner with a huge shared border. Win for everyone, immigration plummets. Selected solutions: built an enormous wall, lambast their leaders, threaten invasion. Republicans are still in a 7th-century Chinese solution mindset, 1400 years later. Oh - and pour $30,000,000,000 into your secret police force to find and deport any suspected South American or Mexican-heritage people, primarily without trial, seemingly hurting just as many US citizens as new immigrants - shouldn't forget that brilliant strategy.
If the US could just stop shooting itself in the feet the wounds might heal.
It was always performative to convince idiots that something is done, and as patronage for the companiies being paid insane amounts of money to build the wall.
Bingo, it's a Mafia boondoggle. You pay Company [exorbitant amount of money] to build an ever larger, ever more complex project so you can funnel cash to them without it looking like a gift. All Company has to do is have 4 or 5 guys be up on scaffolding "building the wall" a couple days a week to make it look like progress is being made.
Right now there are more people leaving the US than entering, so I think it's more to prevent people from escaping. You know, like North Korea.
I would say give your countrymen (and especially women) some credit. Mexico has been marching steadily forward over the past decade or so. I met a lot of very competent people working very hard to better the country as a whole in my time studying there.
The roadblocks are many and the dangers can run high at times but that’s not stopping people. As it shouldn’t. Mexico is coming into her power. Just wait.
Even your remark, even if you feel a little beat down, is a testament to the times. Solid foundations aren’t built in a night. They’re hard fought and won with consistency. And what is Mexico if not resilient?
Qué es un glove? Un globo? 🤔
That clip of her standing in front of it, talking about how tall and deep it is, "almost impossible" to scale or dig under, then triumphantly proclaiming that they're going to paint it black to make it harder to climb. Right after saying it's almost impossible to climb.
Oh, and it's already black.
Don’t blame them. MAGAs don’t see color.
They're actually blind ..... blinded with rage
More like stupidity.
Just black and white.
When I was leaving Mexico after a few months down there in my RV I was diverted from my usual border crossing location (Sonoyta) to a much larger one (Yuma) ~40 min away. I had to wait in a 2 hour line to get to customs, and in that line I was inching forward next to the border wall. In this large city in plain view of everyone, mind you, I watched 4 seperate teams of mexican brothers get over the wall in under 5 min. The magic weapon? Rope 3 of the times, a jank looking ladder the last time. Billions of dollars defeated with a rope. The facepalm would send me into orbit rn.
'K... ish... I mean, I get the physics, but, doesn't this murican know the concept of nighttime?
Or… gloves? I mean climbers use gloves sometimes I’m pretty sure…
Rock climbers don't, they need skin contact for good grip. Crack climbers do, but they're the opposite of what you'd expect, they only protect the back of the hands.
Ice climbers wear gloves because it's usually too cold for bare hands.
Or gantes even.
What happens when they have oven mits or you know, just gloves, or just wait until night when the metal is cooler and they have cover of night?
Whatever, I guess I shouldn't care about that $500+ million that goes to put on a single coat that peels off six months later because they didn't prime the surface.
Where those Epstein files at??
Good thing DOGE saved us so much money that we can now easily afford to pay for completely logical projects such as this.
Right... Because black paint is going to stop them how exactly? "It absorbs the heat, so they will get burns when touching the fence".
Ever heard of night?
Crossing the border is a 9 to 5 day job, everyone knows that
Or gloves
Yes, but at the same time. A reduction of attempts during the day means you can have a concentration of manpower at night. And with the forcing day jumpers to wear gloves and long sleeves and pants. They are more likely to subcome to heat exhaustion. Because once over the other side they won't really have time to stop and strip off the extra layers when running from border patrol.
Hell it can probably make thermal cameras more effective to having g a cooler body with the back drop of hot as hell steel.
Shit, I didn't realize that angle grinders were so sensitive to black paint.
As someone who lives somewhere that just got up to 120° f hot metal is no joke. We had a ton of people hospitalized a few years back because they went to open gates to their homes and weren't expecting scolding hot metal when it was already like 11pm.
I'm not going to hate this because it's a idea that doesn't work, I'm going to hate it because it's just another method to harm people who want to come to the land of the free. On top of it border states like to charge people for leaving out water so just anything they can possibly do to be vindictive and hateful I guess.
I like the mental imagery --- it's not scalding hot, no, the metal is actively chastising you.
"You KNOW better than to touch me when I've been in the sun all day!"
Because if there's anything people have learned about Mexico, it's that they don't have any blankets. Or anything like rope or fabric covers that can easily just be tossed on it.
What happened in 1855?
If it's that hot, I imagine the metal is gonna be hot regardless of what color paint
No, it's the southern border of the US.
What country do you mean? Canada? Mexico?
Ever heard of night time?
So you think that Canada is in the south? This is a discussion about the southern border wall.
Yes I've heard of night just like I said in the quoted text people were getting severe burns and needing to be hospitalized because they were not expecting the gate to their house to be that hot at nearly midnight.
Then what country of the free are you talking about? Have you seen the US? Nothing free about that country.
Yes I'm sure you've never heard of the American national anthem that still calls the US the land of the free during all of this. I brought up hazardous heat conditions and tied that into this new policy to point out a criticism of America. I brought up the fact that the national anthem calls it the land of the free to point out hypocrisy.
So far you haven't done anything other than try and tell me that 11pm isn't night for some reason and to criticize me for pointing out the words of the national anthem.
So what exactly is your point here? What issue do you have with what I have been saying?
And how does that stop a ladder?
Or the dozens of tunnels.
Or a simple stack of milk crates?
So she knows someone who sells black paint. Didn't take a lot to figure that out.
Oughta be illegal to be that stupid
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but we have a 34x felon and convicted rapist, very very possible child molester in the Whitehouse.
No shit Sherlock. Still oughta
Take a step back from the fascism, human rights violations, kidnappings, and concentration camps and just think about the fact that these people are in charge of the government. Regardless of politics, these people are just objectively stupid and have virtually no understanding of anything outside of knowing how to give speeches and spread propaganda.
I know things are bad and will continue to get worse before they get better, but I do take some solace in the fact that these people are so incredibly stupid that they will never be able to run a productive or efficient government. It's like watching as your boss makes his son a manager and seeing everything go to shit around him.
The problem is that people voted for them.
If you ever have a fair and free election again within your lifetime, how do you propose to overcome this demented voting behaviour?
While contemplating that, how do you propose rebuilding your country that has been damaged in the collateral and insidious manner by policy decrees made by an orange man in a red hat?
From where I'm sitting on the other side of the planet, you have your work cut out for you.
Simply bc Trump thinks it'll make the fences too hot to climb. This was attempted and failed in Trump's first term. The paint peeled after a year.
Hence the need to repaint….
I wish
All 65 miles of it?
One of his buddies sells paint. Grifted.
Yes but what about the Epstein files?
would be fuckin hilarious if they painted the US side and completely forgot about the Mexican side.
then when they go to paint the Mexican side, Mexico says, "no, that's our side"
They're probably painting the US side black to stop americans from leaving.
lmao
like Americans could climb anything other than a cholesterol chart.
In this bizarro back assword timeline we're living in, it's not only "hilarious", but also quite plausible. Paint and labor paid by yours truly, via taxes
Of course nobody in Mexico has ever heard of a tarp...
Only thing I can think of is the black paint would absorb more solar radiation and make it hotter. But the sun isn't out at night which is when many people make that crossing, so I'm not sure they've really thought it through.
Thoughts are long gone by the time their ideas reach their mouths
The same way a fence prevents someone from flying in on a currently not-yet-expired visa. The whole announcement is an exercise of putting lipstick on a pig.
You see. As it is right now, the mexicans can't see the fence, and so they stumble around and accidentally find themselves on the american side. If it's black they'll much easier identify the american border, and thus avoid crossing into that shithole of a country.
If black makes it hotter, then why are red, orange, and yellow called "hot" colors?
Checkmate, conservatives.
Hilarious. Let’s waste more money. Can we try the Joker-method next? Just torch a big pile of cash and call it a day.
I see a red wall and I want to paint it black...
This is the same border wall they've been pulling down with Toyotas?
I think it's the one they can slip straight through.
Ya and there are many gaps. Or angle grinders can cut the lower part of the poles no problem.
Coneheads movie was ahead of it's time: https://youtu.be/yGNSxME5Z_s&t=14:40
If you own that movie already and connect your account to movies anywhere so YouTube will give it to you for free your link will not take you to the timestamp. It will just take you to the beginning of the actual movie, just letting you know.
Oh look CBS news, the presidents personal boot licking journalists.
Is that why my fake news and/or conspiracy/conservative blocklists block CBS News? I wasn’t sure but I just let it continue to be blocked.
Do you want more children murdered?
Good time to invest in glove stocks
So there is a market for white spray paint South of the border? Got my new side hustle!
Magas think that Mexicans hate black as much as they do
Stupid is as stupid does.
Wait, I thought she loved BBC?
Im really interested to see what kind of manual labor workers they get to paint the wall....like you know the US Federal government is gonna go with the cheapest bids, which will most likely be immigrants potentially of illegal status.
In fairness to her, you don't often see anyone climbing on black people either!
Wut?