Trump says Putin agrees with him US should not have mail-in voting
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin agrees with him that letting voters send in ballots by mail puts honest elections at risk.
"Vladimir Putin, smart guy, said you can't have an honest election with mail-in voting," Trump told Fox News Channel's "Hannity" after a nearly three-hour meeting between the leaders in Alaska. "He said there's not a country in the world that uses it now."
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You know Putin, the king of honest elections...
Yeah, Putin is a paragon of freedom, justice and integrety in a morally bankrupt world
sadly there are people here on lemmy who say that unironically
You don’t win elections by a consistent 98.6% without doing something right!
I thought they were there to discuss the Ukraine War? How did they get to mail in ballots?
Also, why the fuck would the US care what Putin thinks of how the US elections are run?
Have you watched even two minutes of Trump trying to speak on any topic?
In a paltry 6 months, he's done far more than four years' worth of damage to international relations and American citizens' rights. That's more than fair game for criticism, if you ask me.
Zero.
The number of people mentioning Biden before you. Also, the number of people that give two shits about Biden at this point in time. Like tRump, staying on topic requires a modicum of intelligence and focus.
By the way, illegals can be anything those making the laws says it is. It's a slippery slope, and when reduced to fewer and fewer people determining what is and isn't illegal, the faster it is subject to change. You should hope whatever in group(s) you belong to now never fall out of favor with those in charge.
Get the fuck out of here "illegals don't have rights." What kind of person says that other than a psycho?
Jesus, you bootlickers are sickos.
The constitution says they do. I don't give a fuck about the laws in their country.
Illegals have constitutional rights. Everyone in the US has these rights. That’s kinda our thing.
He has been there for 4.5 years already?
That's the joke. Right now OP has 57 downvotes and no upvote. What's happening?
It does not read as a joke whatsoever.
Read their comment history. Either a troll, or genuinely a Make America God Awful cultist.
Looks genuine but then he must have forgotten a not and some more
I am still surprised by the votes. The following comments were not there to reveal his opinions. Does everybody track users to know that they are pro Trump or was TDS enough of a signal?
I think "TDS" combined with the lack of "/s" was enough of a signal for the first few downvoters, and then it turned into dog piling.
You mean the guy who is all over the Epstein files because he raped teenagers?
Go on about how other people are deluded about the guy.
Most elegant trump has ever been
Putin seems to have more say in our elections than I do.
Take a quick look at Putin/Russia's electoral history for the past couple of decades, and maybe it'll become more clear
Flight of ideas
Yeah, if putin is against it, that essentially means it's a good idea.
They were discussing a lot of things, including business.
Sweden does, and probably other EU contries aswell.
Canada does, and all we have to do is request a ballot be mailed to us (in or out of country).
Some US states do this as well. Here in Colorado they mail you your ballot a few weeks before election day as the default. You are able to mail it back, but most people drop them off at secure boxes around town on their own time. You can still vote in person but its way more of a pain in the ass to do, idk why anyone would. Mailed ballots are far better
I can't ever imagine going back to filling out a ballot at the polling location. It's so much easier to do at home, when you can take time to actually research all eleventy-billion candidates for federal and state and county and city, then props and measures and....
Voting isn't like a test, where the questions are unknown before you get your hands on it. Sample ballots are available well before you go to vote, allowing you to research all the candidates and ballot issues as much as you want, before showing up at a polling location.
And as far as I'm aware, every state lets you bring a "cheat sheet" with you, in case you don't remember who you preferred for city council position #5 when you looked up the candidates last week.
I spend a day or two making my cheat sheet so that I don't have to figure out what all the down-ballot stuff is the day of.
And with mail in ballots, you can just put a stamp on that cheat sheet and your job is done. No need to stand in line and re-copy everything again.
This is one of the most terminally online things I've ever seen...
If anyone reading this is stressed about voting in person (and don't have a viable mail-in option), you need to know that your anxiety is completely unfounded. You will be just fine, trust me.
If the first time you're seeing the candidates/issues is when you step into a voting booth, you're doing it wrong.
Washington State uses only mail voting, it’s fantastic. You get your ballot in the mail, a voter booklet with candidate statements, and you can use a drop box or USPS to return your ballot. Then you can check your ballot status online and get a text when your ballot is received! It’s wonderful when your state actually wants people to vote
republicans only do it in person, thats probably why the gop banks on thier votes, and they dont voter suppress thier districts either, they do it in a democratic county though.
I have seen a lot of Republican states making it harder for voting
remember densantis, when red districts were hit hard by a natural disaster, he had voting booths stationed all over the place, but none in blue areas.
Tons of Republicans voted by mail in 2020
In Switzerland about 90% of people submit their votes by mail.
Poland have it. After you regiester, the national mailmen will come to your house on electiin day, but you vote in the sealed envelope and hand-deliver it to the balot box... Becouse, you know, disabled people exist. They have the right to vote. Any system that doesnt create the real opportunity to vote for people that have the right to vote is not democratic.
We all are going to be disabled at some point.
Same for uk
Germany too
Australia does too
Portugal does it too.
Spain does
Belgium does as well
He meant among the countries with fair elections. You know....Russia....North Korea....did I say Russia?
The US uses it, too
Just to provide some non-sarcastic comments mail-in voting is a source of liberty and democracy for the citizens of the United States. It is a stalwart safeguard against being bullied and harassed at the polls.
Don’t you feel better when you’re protected by ICE at the polls and they make sure you’re not accidentally voting while looking un-American?
It also protects against intentionally underfunding polling locations in minority areas to suppress votes. No one should ever need to learn the phrase "if you're in line when the polls close, stay in line", because voting backups shouldn't exist in the first place.
Who gives an actual fuck about how Putin thinks the US ought to do things?
Just Trump. It's always just Trump.
Putin also thinks that it's okay to jail your opponents in an election. I bet Trump doesn't mind that idea either.
The US government obviously does.
Trump and the usa clearly.
The president of the fucking United States taking democracy lessons from Russia...
This means we absolutely SHOULD have mail-in voting. Basically take anything putin and drump say and do the opposite and you'll be correct.
Wow. Trump (Krasnov) pushing usa policy with advice (orders) from Putin! Holy shit!
We don't give a fuck what Putin thinks. He's the example of what not to do.
The US declared on Friday that they were now allied with Russia and the response from the media was that Trump appeared "weak". We can't even acknowledge reality.
why in the fuck are we asking him anything?
Yeah who the FUCK needs his advice on elections other than "how to rig them"
Goddammit Alaska you've got so many guns...
Red state, they like him there. give it time, tho
There were so many liberals protesting tho, and even they've got guns up there!
there were, relatively speaking. but Anchorage is a really small place. the crowd that gathered there are a sadly stark minority, even as nice as it was to see them.
however, the kind of civilian that tends to live in Alaska is generally a little unusual. if there would be an aspiring leftist assassin, it's one of the only places that value the cultural norms that would create one. so it's not entirely unpossible
... you think Trump asked him?
At this point daddy Putin said here's the marching orders and please for the love of god try to stay on script.
Who knew they were discussing how to subvert democracy instead of what they were suposed to discuss. Putin is definitively Trumps handler.
Yes, blindly listen to what Putin says and ignore all the countries that do have working mail in voting.
in France, people abroad can vote online, otherwise you have to present yourself to vote, with paper, in transparent box, and you're free to participate in the counting
That's... actually surprisingly few. I thought it would be more common.
There should probably be another cour on the scale for countries that don't have voting at all, like black or gray or something.
Sweden has postal voting for everyone.
That map is wrong. Spain have postal voting for everyone. You do not need to meet any requirements.
Well I know that map is fucked showing Missouri as green...
Russia has mail in voting lol
I see at least one state on here that should be yellow. Where did they source their info from? (Edit: sorry I'm on mobile so digging into it would take a while. I can look from my computer later)
Just taking some notes on democracy from an actual fascist dictator. No biggie.
Holy fuck, who cares? Trump is in the Epstein files
Of course the fascists want everyone susceptible to voter intimidation. Yawn.
Oh! Well, if Putler says it, I guess it's right, then.
Trump is such a bitch.
My question is why the fuck would Trump and Putin be talking about elections during a negotiation for peace for a country being attacked who isn't even present.
Because Trump can't stay on one subject for more than about 30 seconds. He was probably rambling while Putin nodded along.
Why would Putin get a red carpet treatment from the US in the first place? Putin and Trump announced to the world they are now allies.
My mommy let me visit my friend Vlad and were were talkin', ya know. And he said, you know what? I agree with you that mail-in voting is bad. And I said, yeah, right? See I know my friends agree with me. I'm going to go back and tell mommy what my friend Vlad said and say "See, mommy, even Vlad agrees!"
Fucking toddler child loser leader of MAGA losers. WTF is wrong with these people?
Who the fuck cares what Putin thinks about anything?
Other dictators. They care more about each other than their own people.
Right? In a way, though, i do kinda care: if Putin says it is bad, it’s probably good.
Two obituaries I can't wait to read.
Kinda bummed nobody tried something. In a country with so many guns you think there would a single rebel in this death star of a country. Not even some rogue canadian.
"See this dictator agrees with me.."
We don't give a fuck what Putin says! He doesn't live here! He's not our president, fuck off!
I really wish that orange turd would just kick the bucket already.
Release the Epstein files.
I don't give a fuck what Putin, or Trump for that matter, says. Fuck them both. They're lying as usual.
Vladimir Putin said that voting in general is putting honest elections at risk.
Like Putin is an expert in free and fair elections.
that's evidence you're wrong, you fucking muppet
Remember when Taco had the audacity to call Hillary the puppet?
Projection. It's always projection with the cons.
Maybe because Russia barely has a functioning road system to even get the votes mailed?
Headline: Trump says Putin agrees with him US should not have
mail-invotingFTFY Subby.
HEY TRUMP, PUTIN SAYS RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES.
“You shouldn’t have mail in voting, because we can’t hack mail. So ….get rid of it”
I hate this cuntery.
Postal voting isn't a secret ballot so there is concern wherever people aren't entitled to a private residence of their own. However the accessibility and the presence of paper ballots for recounts (which reduces conflict and increases trust) is such a larger social insurance.
Its obvious why free countries embrace mail in ballots especially in a heavily rural country like the US.
Secret ballots are really important. There should be an effort into making in person voting more accessible and ending postal voting imo. Not american though, but i know my country historically had a very big problem of people being coerced to vote for certain candidates. The vote now is secret, spreaded all around the country and public transportation is free on voting days, which are on weekends.
Those two agree on it. How much more proof it's the easiest way to cheat does one need?
Well, he literally lied in the next sentence. So there's that, too.
What a fucking demented weakling.
Trump being a pedo isn't enough, he still needs Putin's approval
trump, and the co-pedophile, ghislaine is free on WORK RELEASE.
Yeah, Putin is definitely the person Trump should be taking advice from about mail-in election ballots. 🙄
Ah yes, Putin. A man of who strongly believes in democracy. He won with 88% of the vote in his last election. His opponents are so shaken by his leadership that they keep looking themselves.
If republicans living in the 80's could see what they would become, their minds would shatter.
I don't think it's fair to criticize Putin for this, it's consistent with his stance on other forms of voting.
Mail in voting is more trustworthy that electronic voting.
Especially given the suspicious actions around the last US election ..
Especially given the suspicious actions around the last US election ..
i only hear VOTING machines in red areas, its definitely designed to be rigged by the gop, you cant do that with paper ballots, thats why they use all sorts of voter suppression in the last election. like stop counting early, not registering the ballots that already mailed in, closing polling places early(especially during election night), plus the counties that went to harris, but sitll went for Trump somehow?
by the way this is the same thing happened to mitch mcconnels election.
More like puttin has some nice dirt on trump
Something about a guy with an island ...
Why aren't there anymore protest in the US? Were the Kings Day protests really the only thing we are going to get? Those obviously never were going to do jack ahit. Is the general population actually ok with what's happening? It's hard to get a good reading on the general vibe over there from far away. I just can't phantom why DC is not being overrun with protesters right now.
There are protests every week, even in my tiny ass rural Appalachian city.
People are actively resisting ICE and the National Guard however they can
And they've already pulled back on federalizing DC because nobody wants to pay soldiers to clear homeless camps
Everyone other than MAGA is furious and terrified in some measure and most of us are doing what we can. This aint France where you can effectively gather people quickly, this country is huge and most of us live in the sticks. We gotta do what we can where we are. Shit, its like a 5 hour drive for me to get to my state capitol, I can't do that all the time.
Most Americans also live paycheck to paycheck, and cannot afford to lose their job (or even ditch work for a day or two)
It might not be France, but you can still learn a lot from them. Stop with one day protests a la the Kings Day protests. Those don't work. A protest with a deadline will just be waited out. If you want change, you stop when demands are met. If only 25% of the Kings day protestors went to DC and just sat there till change happened, things might have actually worked out. Spread over 2000+ locations and one day? Nothing will happen. Only maybe strengthen others in a shared goal. Sadly nobody marched to DC afterwards.
Living paycheck to paycheck sucks, but if you're not willing to commit and they know it. Why would they listen? It's not going to improve like that. It's clear the US gov doesn't gives a rats ass about the wellbeing of the majority.
It's time for a salt march! Bernie Sanders maybe? Mamdani?
Oh I agree. We need to be focusing on direct action.
I think there are protests but coverage and communication is limited. Probably because a lot of news and platforms are owned by shitty, rich, people.
There's supposed to be some september first
The revolution will not be televised.
Find one and join:
https://www.mobilize.us/indivisible/
There is no way in hell im flying to the US right now. And probably never in my lifetime again.
Then maybe understand that people are resisting and that your judgment isn't helpful?
Sorry that I don't feel like being detained for nothing in an country with basically no rule of law left. To fight against a government that's not mine.
To be honest though, I do pass judgment because the time to stand up against the US government was decades ago. I fear it's already way too late now.
Cowards find it easy to pass judgement when their skin isn't in the game.
You're absolutely right, it isn't my skin in the game! Because it's not my country! Weird how I'm not protesting huh? Isn't the American psyche that they can do everything themselves, and better? Go at it!
Just don't complain you can't protest because everyone lives paycheck to paycheck. US citizens have systematically voted all their rights away since the 80's and now the chickens have come home to roost,. And it's too late to do anything.
Check the 50501 comm now, plenty of protests all over the country
Search the term "music festival" to get around censorship. There's also an app called Jaywalk that helps list local protests.
I miss the days when politicians and presidents at least tried to hide their corruption and shady dealings.
Well then he can fuck off to Russia
When you think it's the onion, but it's real life instead
And what do the people want?
Political figures have forgotten that they are supposed to represent all of their constituents.
Well, you and he can go suck each other off in some undemocratic hell hole and leave the rest of us alone. You are the criminals, after all. Get this, the murderer and rapist think things!
Oh, I'm sure that motherfucking PUTIN agrees with Taco on that. How can you scare and intimidate voters if they are able to safely vote from home?
Remember when USAians were terrified of the Russians.
Good for him, I'm glad he has such a supportive daddy.
We don' care. Show us the Epstein files. We know you wont because you know what you have done. All these women are not lying. I doubt any of them are.
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As an overseas voter who lives in hell trying to save for retirement because of asinine IRS laws (can't use Japan's advantaged retirement accounts because basically everything is a PFIC, most brokerages won't touch americans, etc.), you'd best bet I'm using my rights. Fuck you and release the Epstein files, you and all your enabling republican administration.
Weakling asks for permission.
Flood the Zone
They must have a writers' room.
Harder to meddle with I guess
Good thing the states decide how to do elections.
For now
Sorry, The Orange One is getting lessons on fair elections from PUTIN?? That's like going to a lion for advice on going vegetarian.
Well, he probably helped Trump "win" the last election. Why wouldn't he take advice from him?
In Soviet Russia vote mail you in.
trump and the gop already rigged the last 3 elections with the mail ins, what more does he want.