Yeah our generation was short of the -68 hippie love generation so we got the sex drugs and rock'n roll decade. Millennials seems so much more at ease with their (bad) feelings.
I mean, fuck. I was just thinking it through -
In the U.S., Most millennials started out in the wake of the war on drugs and the damage it did to communities. From there, you have the racial tension of the 90’s, the death of truth with Fox News, the rise of school shootings, 9/11, the start of the rightward/authoritarian swing of the U.S., the ‘08 recession, citizens united, loss of democracy, COVID, another recession, inflation, housing insecurity, the loss of the illusion of democracy.
I remember back in 1999, when I was a kid, hearing folks talk about how in just a few years weed was going to be legal and so was gay marriage. I remember thinking that the future was going to be bright and not some authoritarian hellscape. Now there are license plate readers at the grocery store parking lot.
I mean. If we didn’t know how to manage the feelings we have about the future we were promised and lost, and all the trauma we’ve experienced along the way, I guess we’d all wind up driving Dodge Rams with U.S. Flags on them.
But the covering up with music part is still less common for millenias, who are more likely to be able to openly discuss their struggles and emotions with friends
Millennials most certainly go to therapy too, there is a shortage of psychologists and it ain't the boomers going and genz can't get a job with health insurance. I joke but that's not really funny, now I'm sad, let me call my therapist.
I spent $1500 of my student loans on it the first half of the year before realizing I qualify for sliding scale and now have medicaid covering everything... I've been kicking myself for the last month, but hey, I also realized there's tons of food banks in my area so at least I'm saving money in a few ways now 😅
And just as PSA for anyone else, even if (or especially if?) not in the States, if your insurance doesn't cover therapy, a TON of therapists/counsellors offer sliding scale. Don't be afraid to ask.
I always used to say to other guys who were freaking out about something on a job site “HEY! YOU WAIT UNTIL AFTER WORK AND CRY IN YOUR TRUCK LIKE THE REST OF US!”
9 times out of 10 they laughed and calmed down a bit. And like it happens when your working camp jobs and long hours, everyone gets frustrated.
No, boomers don't go to therapy because they believe it's for weak people. Millennials don't go to therapy because they can't afford it. Same result, different approaches.
It’s the days you rawdog life and go home without music. Thems the days.
Go to therapy y’all. Even if you had a perfect upbringing and zero trauma or adversity, you can still unlock more of your own potential and understand yourself better. Even an imperfect outlet like a NA group setting like is better than white knuckling it.
you can still unlock more of your own potential and understand yourself better
Which is why I avoided saying “full potential” like it’s a life panacea and any failure to achieve 100% is your personal failure instead of the program’s.
Yes please only go to board certified professionals for mental health and/or therapy, and please please puhhlease don’t make an LLM or authority figure like a priest your therapist…
I don’t disagree with what you said, but most therapists will have a degree in counseling or social work. Psychologists and psychiatrists usually do not work as therapists, although there are exceptions.
Too much of it and yet I also don't care too much anymore. I've learned to just let things go. Forgive? Maybe. I'll be nice to you. Forget? No, I won't be betrayed twice by the same person.
Not trying to be a dick, but it's gonna sound it: Yes, absolutely, just by that comment there are benefits worth the price. I hope you are able to seek the help you need dude.
Till then try not to close down, it's hard to open again after.
I'm only closed to people who have deleted several years of my life expectancy tbh. I'm pretty open to most people. Perhaps one day I'll have time to get therapy. Till then I'll have to vent to friends and strangers on the Interwebs. At least my friends and family are very supportive, so they know what's been going on.
Sure, compared to food or shelter it’s in the ‘nice to have’ category. But for me at least it’s shown a lot of things that I would never have understood or probed deeply enough to address. Better relationships, more understanding of self/finding your actual self, handle adversity better, etc etc
You don’t have to sign up for endless sessions, you can quite viably do a few introductory sessions and ask for takeaway homework/tools to use. Return as needed or when you’ve found a new topic that you feel needs work.
The most helpful thing about therapy, for me, was the ability to talk about things going on in your life with someone who's not your family, not your friend, and has no skin in the game beyond trying to help you make healthy decisions.
non-secured bandpass box with 2 15’s and a ungodly oversized amp hastily wired in place, all in the trunk of a clapped out Chevy Lumina blasting Crazy Town - Butterfly has entered the conversation…
You know, I posted that comment sort of unthinkingly, but you are right.
There’s a book called “Why does he do that? Inside the minds of angry and controlling men” that’s on my reading list. (A good summary of the book is available here)
The author repeatedly highlights exactly the point you brought up - that abusers will wield therapy language to perpetuate their abuse. He instead suggests the only real way to change abusers (who are not necessarily the same as sociopaths, mind you) is to put them in programs tailored to abusers to more or less make them realize how much they need to learn empathy, and equip them with the ability to use that empathy.
I ride a bicycle in traffic in a city that is ranked pretty bad for drivers across the continent. I'm not sure if that is therapy or an indicator of needing better therapy.
Meanwhile, boomers rev their Harley Davidson motorcycles to drown out their thoughts.
I know the post is a joke, but millenial is the generation that paved the way to normalising mental health and therapy. Of course, not everyone would be on board. I know some of my peers who are stuck to the old ways and probably too afraid to even do therapy without even considering they don't have to tell someone they went to therapy.
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This seems like more of a Gen X attribute to me. I'm an older millenial, and I know heaps of people my age who go to therapy.
I dunno, this seemed accurate to me - not because millennials don't want to go to therapy, but because they can't afford to.
That's an American thing. Where in from, health insurance covers it completely. But you'll need a while to find a good, available therapist
Yeah our generation was short of the -68 hippie love generation so we got the sex drugs and rock'n roll decade. Millennials seems so much more at ease with their (bad) feelings.
I mean, the alternative was to crumble.
I mean, fuck. I was just thinking it through -
In the U.S., Most millennials started out in the wake of the war on drugs and the damage it did to communities. From there, you have the racial tension of the 90’s, the death of truth with Fox News, the rise of school shootings, 9/11, the start of the rightward/authoritarian swing of the U.S., the ‘08 recession, citizens united, loss of democracy, COVID, another recession, inflation, housing insecurity, the loss of the illusion of democracy.
I remember back in 1999, when I was a kid, hearing folks talk about how in just a few years weed was going to be legal and so was gay marriage. I remember thinking that the future was going to be bright and not some authoritarian hellscape. Now there are license plate readers at the grocery store parking lot.
I mean. If we didn’t know how to manage the feelings we have about the future we were promised and lost, and all the trauma we’ve experienced along the way, I guess we’d all wind up driving Dodge Rams with U.S. Flags on them.
But at least you got the good music in the 90s and early 2000s, Gen X didn't get that, but was born into the hellhole you describe
I think it depends on whether you can afford therapy.
Very fucking good.
Yep.
But the covering up with music part is still less common for millenias, who are more likely to be able to openly discuss their struggles and emotions with friends
That's a Boomer-ass decal that Millennial has on his window.
Millennials most certainly go to therapy too, there is a shortage of psychologists and it ain't the boomers going and genz can't get a job with health insurance. I joke but that's not really funny, now I'm sad, let me call my therapist.
I go to therapy every january.
The therapist assures me that we will be able to deal with my intense and labyrinthine shit.
The therapist suggests some pithy bullshit.
Then my inaurance runs out for the year.
What‽ Therapy is our thing. We can't afford a house but by fuck we go to therapy even if we have to cut down on avocado toast
I spent $1500 of my student loans on it the first half of the year before realizing I qualify for sliding scale and now have medicaid covering everything... I've been kicking myself for the last month, but hey, I also realized there's tons of food banks in my area so at least I'm saving money in a few ways now 😅
And just as PSA for anyone else, even if (or especially if?) not in the States, if your insurance doesn't cover therapy, a TON of therapists/counsellors offer sliding scale. Don't be afraid to ask.
This guy is most definitely listening to Creed.
Nickelback
What's your current gear?
Stolen from Gen-X.
Lame
Yeah, I've been doing this since 1987.
Men have been doing this since cars had radios lol
Go to therapy
This is the most gen x post ever
This is correct. Genx plays music loud. Millenials gently insert their earbuds so they can quietly listen to soft sad music and not bother anyone.
I'm a millennial who put his headphones on to loudly play music... to not bother anyone with it.
Yes I have hearing damage. Not it's not just from the music.
Normalize not passing on generational trauma
But it's tradition, we need to pass on the culture.
I always used to say to other guys who were freaking out about something on a job site “HEY! YOU WAIT UNTIL AFTER WORK AND CRY IN YOUR TRUCK LIKE THE REST OF US!”
9 times out of 10 they laughed and calmed down a bit. And like it happens when your working camp jobs and long hours, everyone gets frustrated.
Millennials damn near invented therapy with all their mental wellness shit—tf is this post?
No, boomers don't go to therapy because they believe it's for weak people. Millennials don't go to therapy because they can't afford it. Same result, different approaches.
Yes, the cycle continues for as long as humanity exists.
https://historyhustle.com/2500-years-of-people-complaining-about-the-younger-generation/
Looks at all the reboots of tv shows and movies coming out of Hollywood geared towards millenials and Gen Xers
*Not yet
OP seems to think so
Talking shit on here is my therapy. That and screaming at sky tempting god to show himself so I can kick his ass.
Sky god always hides the coward.
Yeah, gods a bitch.
God's dead. What do you think Armstrong and Aldrin were doing on the moon?
Making a new one?
It wasn't an addition.
Looking for Sentinel Prime
Only thing I miss about the Midwest is the sky sometimes showed you gods in the form of a real good storm head
It’s the days you rawdog life and go home without music. Thems the days.
Go to therapy y’all. Even if you had a perfect upbringing and zero trauma or adversity, you can still unlock more of your own potential and understand yourself better. Even an imperfect outlet like a NA group setting like is better than white knuckling it.
That "unlocking your full potential" sounds more like personal coach pseudoscience than actual medical practice, though.
Be sure to go to actual collegiate professionals with a certified degree in psychology or psychiatry.
Which is why I avoided saying “full potential” like it’s a life panacea and any failure to achieve 100% is your personal failure instead of the program’s.
Yes please only go to board certified professionals for mental health and/or therapy, and please please puhhlease don’t make an LLM or authority figure like a priest your therapist…
I don’t disagree with what you said, but most therapists will have a degree in counseling or social work. Psychologists and psychiatrists usually do not work as therapists, although there are exceptions.
Therapy costs money. What's it gonna do for me that's worth the cost?
Depends on your damage.
Too much of it and yet I also don't care too much anymore. I've learned to just let things go. Forgive? Maybe. I'll be nice to you. Forget? No, I won't be betrayed twice by the same person.
Not trying to be a dick, but it's gonna sound it: Yes, absolutely, just by that comment there are benefits worth the price. I hope you are able to seek the help you need dude.
Till then try not to close down, it's hard to open again after.
I'm only closed to people who have deleted several years of my life expectancy tbh. I'm pretty open to most people. Perhaps one day I'll have time to get therapy. Till then I'll have to vent to friends and strangers on the Interwebs. At least my friends and family are very supportive, so they know what's been going on.
Sure, compared to food or shelter it’s in the ‘nice to have’ category. But for me at least it’s shown a lot of things that I would never have understood or probed deeply enough to address. Better relationships, more understanding of self/finding your actual self, handle adversity better, etc etc
You don’t have to sign up for endless sessions, you can quite viably do a few introductory sessions and ask for takeaway homework/tools to use. Return as needed or when you’ve found a new topic that you feel needs work.
The most helpful thing about therapy, for me, was the ability to talk about things going on in your life with someone who's not your family, not your friend, and has no skin in the game beyond trying to help you make healthy decisions.
Laughs from the generation where everybody and their brother installed an amp and a couple of 12-in kickers in their car.
Well 4 12 inch Pyles and Miami Bass Wars in the cassette player but yeah totally …
non-secured bandpass box with 2 15’s and a ungodly oversized amp hastily wired in place, all in the trunk of a clapped out Chevy Lumina blasting Crazy Town - Butterfly has entered the conversation…
I think I knew you in high school.
Every millennial I know is in therapy.
I do not associate with people who decorate their vehicles that way. I find they act like sociopaths.
Ergo, people who put flags like that on their cars are in need of therapy.
I’ve declared it to be true. Spread the word.
Sociopaths in therapy only learn to become better sociopaths
You know, I posted that comment sort of unthinkingly, but you are right.
There’s a book called “Why does he do that? Inside the minds of angry and controlling men” that’s on my reading list. (A good summary of the book is available here)
The author repeatedly highlights exactly the point you brought up - that abusers will wield therapy language to perpetuate their abuse. He instead suggests the only real way to change abusers (who are not necessarily the same as sociopaths, mind you) is to put them in programs tailored to abusers to more or less make them realize how much they need to learn empathy, and equip them with the ability to use that empathy.
Black and white flag? That's a paddlin'.
(Every generation loves this, no?)
Not millennials, we’re about going to therapy.
I am millennial as well! I guess this is a both/and scenario
I ride a bicycle in traffic in a city that is ranked pretty bad for drivers across the continent. I'm not sure if that is therapy or an indicator of needing better therapy.
It's more affordable than therapy.
This guy: Creed
Me: Mad Caddies
Yes.... But I also go to therapy
you guise have vehicles?
What vehicle? I do the same, but at home.
I thought that was to drown out the engine
Grinding brakes*
Why would I want to drown out the sweet sounds of an LS V8 purring out of my catback exhaust?
Bought too many avocado toasts, had to sell "the vehicle". What do I do?
Meanwhile, boomers rev their Harley Davidson motorcycles to drown out their thoughts.
I know the post is a joke, but millenial is the generation that paved the way to normalising mental health and therapy. Of course, not everyone would be on board. I know some of my peers who are stuck to the old ways and probably too afraid to even do therapy without even considering they don't have to tell someone they went to therapy.
I do both. Need all the help I can get.
Is this what you call “tuff only in Oklahoma”?
That sounds all to familiar
this is also how we deal with vehicle issues
I think I have his shades. Not his beard though.