furry hate in 2005 was 100% homophobia lol it's never really gone away either. it's largely that nowadays too. it's a way to hate queer people without outwardly hating queer people. they think we don't see it. it's also just dumb as hell and a waste of your one life to spend any amount of time literally hating people for a hobby that involves playing pretend and using their imagination. oh no, the horror, they can access something you can't anymore.
You just made that up but okay. And you can't put a whole group of people together and be like "yep they're all drug addicts having sex parties." That's how racism works.
Every furry I’ve known personally has participated in these.
Source: trust me bro
Until I see some statistics, I don't believe you one bit. Also, who cares what they do in their spare time? You are very controlling, just mind your own business please.
Hey, I’m not making judgements here, but it shouldn’t be surprising that fucking people in animal costumes while railing ketamine and MDMA comes across as weird to some people.
"i don't hate them, but the degenerate things they do grosses me out" like this aint even hidden, imagine saying this about any other marginalized group
they are a particularly disliked and misunderstood group, right wingers have already been labeling them as "delusional degenerates" and lots of ppl just constantly shit on them just for enjoying an unconventional hobby
dude lol it's fine. it's a hobby. you know it, i know it, everyone knows it. zoomers are fine with furries, alpha even more so. you're not going to win this just stop. it's so dumb.
zoomers are fine with furries, alpha even more so. you're not going to win this just stop.
Who's trying to win anything? Weird that you think that a bunch of 13 year olds being ok with something means OP is lying about not being ok with it..
For the record, I don't "hate" furries, I won't stop talking to someone because they're a furry, but if you make it impossible for me to look past it, we're probably not gonna get along.
I mean that's ok lol. I have a small number of former and current friends that are or were furries, they wear their foxtail keychain and have their drawings as their phone background and we go about our business. At my college, I had two classes with someone who was not so subtle, and would somehow always find a way to talk about their fursona.. that's their business, I don't hate them for doing it, but they're not the kinda person I wanna hang out with.
If that makes me a bigot I'm generally not a very good one.
Weird that you think that a bunch of 13 year olds being ok with something means OP is lying about not being ok with it…
weird that you're focusing on minors when i mentioned two generations
if you make it impossible for me to look past it, we’re probably not gonna get along
most furries are normal about their hobby is the overall point here, and one that i have seen spread like wildfire online the last 5 or so years. i have seen furry posts on TikTok receive a ton of attention and all the comments are some variation of "why did people hate furries?" or "furries seem cool." it might be cringey but being cringe is not embarrassing anymore. catch up. it's freeing.
I was gonna write a response to this but it was pretty much just a rephrase of my other response. tl;dr I don't hate furries as mentioned and idc if you're amongst the "normal about their hobby" crowd but in more than one instance I've encountered people very not normal about their hobby and I choose not to associate with them. 🤷🏾♂️
in more than one instance I've encountered people very not normal about their hobby and I choose not to associate with them. 🤷🏾♂️
To be fair, there are people like this, probably also on these forums, about almost every hobby. Gun nuts, programmers, “sweaty” card/board/video gamers, etc.
Weird that you think that a bunch of 13 year olds being ok with something means OP is lying about not being ok with it..
Holy shit, is Gen Z the new Millennials? Gen Z is commonly agreed to be the generation born between roughly 1995 and 2012, meaning that the oldest of them would be 30.
Existential crisis aside, my real point is that I've been around the internet a long time - long enough to have seen the start of hate against furries - and I'd like to take your second part and play with it in that context because I've heard it all before somewhere.
For the record, I don't "hate" furries, I won't stop talking to someone because they're a furry, but if you make it impossible for me to look past it, we're probably not gonna get along.
So let's start with the good faith interpretation, as furry is a subculture/hobby, so we'll replace it with something similar:
For the record, I don't "hate" Marvel fans, I won't stop talking to someone because they're a Marvel fan, but if you make it impossible for me to look past it, we're probably not gonna get along.
Kind of a weird statement, as there're weird people who take it too far in any fandom, whether that's Marvel, trains, anime, furries, or whatever else, but not the weirdest thing to say by any means. But, knowing the history of the internet in this regard, let's take your statement and change it to represent what the anti-furry sentiment actually is:
For the record, I don't "hate" gay people, I won't stop talking to someone because they're gay, but if you make it impossible for me to look past it, we're probably not gonna get along.
That's right, the furry hatred was thinly veiled bigotry all along. There's a reason that they used "furfag" in the old days. It's been a longstanding thing for hating furries to be "cool" because it was an easy way for bigots to hate minorities openly. Furries have major minority populations in the fandom (I think like twice the size compared to the world? Probably even higher), and so hating on furries was an easy way to hate on minorities - especially LGBT people as the fandom is commonly connected to the LGBT community in the cultural zeitgeist. So when they said that the OP isn't going to win, I believe it's in relation to that history - especially the whole "it's cool to hate furries" thing that still seems to pop up amongst young kids even today.
There’s a reason that they used “furfag” in the old days
Dude, that was a 4chan thing. It wasn't about "bigotry." Everything had fag added to the end of it. Newfag, oldfag, furfag, gamerfag... hell, I even saw gayfag thrown around a few times, though I'm pretty sure those were fully ironic since only a dolt wouldn't realize the idiocy of it.
And 4chan was filled with bigots. It was a major part of the alt-right pipeline that put America where it is today. Just because it was used ironically doesn't mean that it wasn't also used seriously. There's a whole essay on the furry hate that revolves more around the damage done by that one CSI episode (and I'm pretty sure another similar show a few years later) that characterized furries as sexual deviants than anything else, but the use of the 4chan furfag moniker was also a part of it, and that spread outside of 4chan.
4chan for its part, though, really proved the saying "say something ironically enough times and eventually you start saying it unironically." Although that's less related to the furry thing and more to the whole edgy teenagers posting racist jokes growing up to scream about Jewish space lasers creating climate change.
I don't really care what you think it sounds like. I let the people who actually know me and myself be the judge of my character. If you spent 45 seconds in the same room as me you'd feel pretty silly for implying my homophobia.
Hmmmm... In that scene he was lying. He very much did care. So the meme is really saying that you do care about what people with anime profile pics say, but you just don't want to admit it... 😆
Some of the best advice on cryptography comes from a site full of furry illustrations. A good chunk of infosec community intersects with a furry community.
Cop guns really are like "the call of the void" aren't they? All I know is if I'm ever trapped in a Groundhog Day time loop, one of the first things I'm doing is grabbing a cop's gun. I don't want to grab it and shoot anyone with it. I just want to grab it and run off into the distance, cackling with glee like a madman.
I'm sorry, but if it isn't a bronze age statue head or a girl in a bikini laying on the hood of a sports car, I assume this person doesn't have the IQ sufficient for my wit and wisdom.
100%, furries get way too much hate. Especially considering how chill they're usually are.
Though honestly unless your pfp betrays some insane political affiliation it shouldn't have relevance on how you see someones reply. I know this is a shitpost but people do that for real. I think my favorite are the xitter boomers dismissing people because their avatar isn't a selfie and they don't using their real names.
as someone who's barely watched any anime and doesn't really get furries at all... uh, what. of all the things people can be into, these are the some of least relevant to one's opinions.
someone who has "AI" "art" as pfp? someone who has a flag as their pfp? someone with greek statue or roman soldier as pfp? tell you so much about the person and how fucking worthless their opinions must be. furries? they're just into anthropomorphic animals for some reason dude, i don't care.
it’s 2025 and people still pretend to hate furries lol
Bro thinks this is 2014 frfr
furry hate in 2005 was 100% homophobia lol it's never really gone away either. it's largely that nowadays too. it's a way to hate queer people without outwardly hating queer people. they think we don't see it. it's also just dumb as hell and a waste of your one life to spend any amount of time literally hating people for a hobby that involves playing pretend and using their imagination. oh no, the horror, they can access something you can't anymore.
You know not every furry is gay lol
yes, i am aware. i’m a furry.
Furry hate in 2005 was from furry friday posts. I still have a bunch of memes saved from both sides of those flame wars.
I think it’s the drug-fuelled sex parties that weirds people out.
yeah if you're a loser
🤷♂️
You just made that up but okay. And you can't put a whole group of people together and be like "yep they're all drug addicts having sex parties." That's how racism works.
“Racist.” Fuck off, you chose to be a furry.
Every furry I’ve known personally has participated in these.
Clean up your scene and people won’t associate that with you.
I'm sorry, the furry president hasn't been aware of what's going on, but I've sent him an email and it will be dealt with shortly.
Furries are people that like anthropomorphic animals. I'm not responsible for what others do.
Also what's wrong with sex and drugs?
Nothing as far as I’m concerned. It’s the fur suit orgy that makes it weird.
Source: trust me bro
Until I see some statistics, I don't believe you one bit. Also, who cares what they do in their spare time? You are very controlling, just mind your own business please.
I'm not a furry
Like there's less sex at tupperware conventions. Humans are horny a/f, no matter which subgroup you pick.
Hey, I’m not making judgements here, but it shouldn’t be surprising that fucking people in animal costumes while railing ketamine and MDMA comes across as weird to some people.
That's also by far not what the average furry does. Any group will have people like that.
I don't mind being portrayed as weird, because who isn't? I do take umbrage at being portrayed as an oversexed drug addict though.
Yeah I mean, I get that it’s not all of you. I suppose I don’t make that clear in my first comment though. My bad.
I neither hate nor judge them, but all the yiff shit around here grosses me out, block it at every occasion.
Agreed. I just block the stuff I'm not interested in viewing in my feed and move on with my day.
There are so many better things to reserve my ire for that someone posting their softcore fursona doesn't make the cut, sorry to say.
If you're gonna hate, hate productively. Now I'm off to judge someone who pronounces it jif and not gif, should the opportunity present itself.
You pronounce it yiff, obviously.
yeah that’s normal you’re fine
Are you not judging them as "gross"?
Gross to me personally, yes.
"i don't hate them, but the degenerate things they do grosses me out" like this aint even hidden, imagine saying this about any other marginalized group
Lmao furry lives matter!
they are a particularly disliked and misunderstood group, right wingers have already been labeling them as "delusional degenerates" and lots of ppl just constantly shit on them just for enjoying an unconventional hobby
Its 2025 and some idiot ignores people bssed on some inscrutable social cue as well
Just not smart.
Hate? I dont think its hate to be ambivalent.
ambivalence isn’t when you write the opinions of an entire group of people off because they’re weird
Tru. I take it back.
dude lol it's fine. it's a hobby. you know it, i know it, everyone knows it. zoomers are fine with furries, alpha even more so. you're not going to win this just stop. it's so dumb.
Who's trying to win anything? Weird that you think that a bunch of 13 year olds being ok with something means OP is lying about not being ok with it..
For the record, I don't "hate" furries, I won't stop talking to someone because they're a furry, but if you make it impossible for me to look past it, we're probably not gonna get along.
For the record, you sound exactly like the type of person a furry wouldn’t ever want to befriend so worry not, bud
I mean that's ok lol. I have a small number of former and current friends that are or were furries, they wear their foxtail keychain and have their drawings as their phone background and we go about our business. At my college, I had two classes with someone who was not so subtle, and would somehow always find a way to talk about their fursona.. that's their business, I don't hate them for doing it, but they're not the kinda person I wanna hang out with.
If that makes me a bigot I'm generally not a very good one.
Like yeah okay? lol
weird that you're focusing on minors when i mentioned two generations
most furries are normal about their hobby is the overall point here, and one that i have seen spread like wildfire online the last 5 or so years. i have seen furry posts on TikTok receive a ton of attention and all the comments are some variation of "why did people hate furries?" or "furries seem cool." it might be cringey but being cringe is not embarrassing anymore. catch up. it's freeing.
I was gonna write a response to this but it was pretty much just a rephrase of my other response. tl;dr I don't hate furries as mentioned and idc if you're amongst the "normal about their hobby" crowd but in more than one instance I've encountered people very not normal about their hobby and I choose not to associate with them. 🤷🏾♂️
i would also not associate with them, you're good.
To be fair, there are people like this, probably also on these forums, about almost every hobby. Gun nuts, programmers, “sweaty” card/board/video gamers, etc.
Holy shit, is Gen Z the new Millennials? Gen Z is commonly agreed to be the generation born between roughly 1995 and 2012, meaning that the oldest of them would be 30.
Existential crisis aside, my real point is that I've been around the internet a long time - long enough to have seen the start of hate against furries - and I'd like to take your second part and play with it in that context because I've heard it all before somewhere.
So let's start with the good faith interpretation, as furry is a subculture/hobby, so we'll replace it with something similar:
Kind of a weird statement, as there're weird people who take it too far in any fandom, whether that's Marvel, trains, anime, furries, or whatever else, but not the weirdest thing to say by any means. But, knowing the history of the internet in this regard, let's take your statement and change it to represent what the anti-furry sentiment actually is:
That's right, the furry hatred was thinly veiled bigotry all along. There's a reason that they used "furfag" in the old days. It's been a longstanding thing for hating furries to be "cool" because it was an easy way for bigots to hate minorities openly. Furries have major minority populations in the fandom (I think like twice the size compared to the world? Probably even higher), and so hating on furries was an easy way to hate on minorities - especially LGBT people as the fandom is commonly connected to the LGBT community in the cultural zeitgeist. So when they said that the OP isn't going to win, I believe it's in relation to that history - especially the whole "it's cool to hate furries" thing that still seems to pop up amongst young kids even today.
Dude, that was a 4chan thing. It wasn't about "bigotry." Everything had fag added to the end of it. Newfag, oldfag, furfag, gamerfag... hell, I even saw gayfag thrown around a few times, though I'm pretty sure those were fully ironic since only a dolt wouldn't realize the idiocy of it.
And 4chan was filled with bigots. It was a major part of the alt-right pipeline that put America where it is today. Just because it was used ironically doesn't mean that it wasn't also used seriously. There's a whole essay on the furry hate that revolves more around the damage done by that one CSI episode (and I'm pretty sure another similar show a few years later) that characterized furries as sexual deviants than anything else, but the use of the 4chan furfag moniker was also a part of it, and that spread outside of 4chan.
4chan for its part, though, really proved the saying "say something ironically enough times and eventually you start saying it unironically." Although that's less related to the furry thing and more to the whole edgy teenagers posting racist jokes growing up to scream about Jewish space lasers creating climate change.
My favorite Tshirt says, "Be Gay. Do Crimes."
I love the LGBTQ community and am often mistakenly assumed to be a part of it, to which I take zero offense (and usually don't bother correcting).
People that make every aspect of their personality revolve around being gay annoy me and I usually don't associate with them.
People that make every aspect of their personality revolve around being a furry annoy me and I usually don't associate with them.
Precisely.
Yet multiple people are coming out to let me know that I'm homophobic, bigoted, etc.
Can we also just take a moment to acknowledge that we're in the shit posting community?
Reeks of, "some of my best friends are black!"
I don't really care what you think it sounds like. I let the people who actually know me and myself be the judge of my character. If you spent 45 seconds in the same room as me you'd feel pretty silly for implying my homophobia.
Hmmmm... In that scene he was lying. He very much did care. So the meme is really saying that you do care about what people with anime profile pics say, but you just don't want to admit it... 😆
Also I'd rather care about the opinion of anime addicts and furries that about the opinion of intolerant assholes.
I see we're picking and choosing which shit posts we take seriously here
As a wise man once said:
fake taking it serious for the meme
Some of the best advice on cryptography comes from a site full of furry illustrations. A good chunk of infosec community intersects with a furry community.
But hey, you do you.
Woawsers, one terminally online group deadass interacts heartily with another terminally online group???
How does this happen??
How could one kid about such a pairing???
personally i think its the tism (im an autistic software engineer who also runs into both groups online constantly, dont kill me)
maybe you got the tism as well
Yup, doesn't mean I won't meme about it :)
You must be very fun at parties
Very perceptive, yes, a skill helped by my ability to take teasing as jokes rather than rectal insertions!
Stick: Removed from ass
Party: Time
Bro I don't even like anime, I've just grown out of the "mock someone for the thing they like" thing.
That's some good bait, right there.
Some have called me a master at baiting! It's all about that quality stuff that you know people can't resist!
You're truly the master baiter
Thank you for showing us how to master bait 🙏🙏🙏 visual learner btw
Bait for what? I don't get it
It's an interesting source of data. This post currently has 508 upvotes and 148 downvotes so I guess about 22.5% of lemmy users like anime.
Ohh look who cares SO MUCH what other people's avatars look like
Imagine the flak you get looking as gay as a rainbow online, SMH my head
As someone with an anime profile Pic, that's fair
Alack, alas, I am bound by the terms of my own meme. So even though you show great wisdom,
I just turn off profile pictures. I don’t care what anyone looks like, if I did I’d be on Instagram or some other garbage corpo shit.
I didn’t even know there were profile pics? I’m guessing that’s not an enabled feature for Voyager maybe?
Voyager has no PFPs because it’s pretty much Apollo from Reddit which also had no PFPs
Um not sure if there’s an option only because I haven’t seen one
I’m on Mlem for iOS.
Me neither. Firefox on Windows. Who knew?
Some of them can be funny, one user has a gif of a loading icon that gives me a chuckle every time I see it
Don't they know it's pronounced "gif"?
What's your point?
Weeb detected, opinion rejected
Cop guns really are like "the call of the void" aren't they? All I know is if I'm ever trapped in a Groundhog Day time loop, one of the first things I'm doing is grabbing a cop's gun. I don't want to grab it and shoot anyone with it. I just want to grab it and run off into the distance, cackling with glee like a madman.
Its a way of being
Unimaginably based
Oh well, thank you for your service
chat can we not just post thinly veiled bigotry? is respecting other's interests too hard now?
This guy has been hating on furries for no reason for a long time now. In fact I feel vindicated in one of my previous comments made at this guy
I wasn't aware you could be bigoted against just furries, but if so, this is fully unveiled, get it right!
Furry anime avatars get a block.
And I thought Lemmy was an open and accepting space
This genuinely sounds like an interaction between two „gigachad super based“ 14 year olds. Op even replying with a gigachad image.
"Another turning point, a fork stuck in the road Life grabs you by the wrist, directs you were to go..."
I think you might be surprised how round the diagram is of specialists, weebs, and furries is.
Unless the specialists are scientists, most of us present like normies
How about a spinning skull gif?
gifcities.org
I'm sorry, but if it isn't a bronze age statue head or a girl in a bikini laying on the hood of a sports car, I assume this person doesn't have the IQ sufficient for my wit and wisdom.
Based, this fella gets it.
HE'LL YEAH BROTHER!!!!!
I am curious what is an acceptable avatar now
What the fuck is an avatar, do those exist on lemmy?
Avatar, profile picture, pfp, icon. Same thing.
You can't fool me, Zuko!
Grey scale 5x5 pixels of actors that have never grossed over $5,000 for a movie. Everything else is just posing.
The last Airbender, the animated series.
jokes on you, the last thing I want is people taking me too seriously
Same lass!
Anime people are the best. I am downvoting.
Holy macaroni, the seething. Remember this thread next time Lemmy wants to pretend it's better than Reddit.
Some people can't take gentle trolling at their expense, is sad
Was thinking the opposite, thought lemmy was above the unprompted furry bashing and this post made me doubt the maturity of a lot of people here.
You're on the shitposting community. Unprompted bashing is the norm, you're not supposed to have a meltdown about it.
People with quark as their profile pic are super sexy and really good with gold-pressed latinum, I mean money.
It's because they can't stop getting boners when being reminded of the hentai they watched earlier. No biggie
As a weeabo, fine, make fun of us. But I'm tired of people crusading furries and I'm not even one of them.
100%, furries get way too much hate. Especially considering how chill they're usually are.
Though honestly unless your pfp betrays some insane political affiliation it shouldn't have relevance on how you see someones reply. I know this is a shitpost but people do that for real. I think my favorite are the xitter boomers dismissing people because their avatar isn't a selfie and they don't using their real names.
as someone who's barely watched any anime and doesn't really get furries at all... uh, what. of all the things people can be into, these are the some of least relevant to one's opinions.
someone who has "AI" "art" as pfp? someone who has a flag as their pfp? someone with greek statue or roman soldier as pfp? tell you so much about the person and how fucking worthless their opinions must be. furries? they're just into anthropomorphic animals for some reason dude, i don't care.
Is a meme, please take it deadly seriously
"it's a prank bro" in the year of our lord 2025? do better
I know it's crazy to imagine people being silly online, but it's still possible buddy :D
it's also possible for people to be dumb online, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to try to put a stop to it.
Thanks for giving an example
it's just a meme bro... i was memeing! you can't say it's stupid if i say i was memeing!
Turns out, i was also memeing! How's abput that? Boom, memeinception
Guy dressed as a giant wolf, doing backflips and juicing up the crowd at a high school football game: Based, Cool, Epic Bacon
Guy dressed as a giant wolf, doing backflips and juicing up a crowd at a high school hentai club event: This I have a problem with
🤔 Maybe check yourself.
speaking of checking, maybe check my comment again and point to me where i said i have a problem with it.
except for programming cause the anime pfp people are usually cracked at that
for me it doesnt applies to furries, furries are infact more likely to be right in my personal experience :3
It's true
You got me. I almost got really mad before realizing this is shitpost community
I'll get ya next time :)
Oooh, you struck a nerve with this one!
I care not!
Depends on the anime, IMO. PFP of Yusuke Urameshi or Yang Wen-li/Reinhard von Lohengramm, or even Zero/Lelouch? You might be saying some real shit. 🤷😅
hi sorry can someone who speaks weeb please translate??
I'm just being a weeb elitist, nothing more to it! 😂
I was just quarter kidding, I loved Code Geass, I love seeing the calculating characters!
Anything else you can reccomend that scratches that "checkmate, asshole" vibe that is similar to Geass or Death Note?
Legend of the Galactic Heroes, definitely. 👍
Incredibly based, you got them to crawl out lmao. How did such a bad bait work so well?
Is my furry pfp okay though?
Straight to jail I'm afraid.
"Me when the person I'm talking to isn't white"
"My deviance is totally the same thing as ethnicity or gender"
😜
Guess I'll just block you then 🤷♂️
Double-checked that the username wasn't a LatentFurry
Nine tenths of the anime I see on lemmy is little girls. Most popular? Little girl lesbians kissing. I can no longer take anime fans seriously.
And this is from a guy who started on Robotech as a teen! Anyway, here's my wife.
Also applies to virtue signalers with fragile masculinity.
Edit: you know votes are public? Fragile ass
No way you called someone fragile after looking up the name of the user who pushed the meany button on your comment
Bitching about downvotes? That’s a downvote.
Ooh! Ooh! Post my downvote next! Pick me!
Goddamn, that's quite a shitty way to use Lemvotes. Add my downvote to your edit, please