Texas becomes seventh state to ban lab-grown meat: The new law establishes civil and criminal penalties for selling the product.
“This ban is a massive win for Texas ranchers, producers, and consumers,” Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller said in a statement following the bill’s passage. “Texans have a God-given right to know what’s on their plate, and for millions of Texans, it better come from a pasture, not a lab. It’s plain cowboy logic that we must safeguard our real, authentic meat industry from synthetic alternatives.”
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Texas joins Indiana, Mississippi, Montana and Nebraska in enacting new laws this year; Alabama and Florida did so last year. In March, the Oklahoma House approved a similar bill that did not advance out of the Senate this session.
https://stateline.org/2025/06/30/texas-becomes-seventh-state-to-ban-lab-grown-meat/Open linkView original on lemmy.world438
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That's the small government party at work
As someone who is morally aware but also morally lazy and eats meat, this gives me hope that cultured meat is actually a threat to the meat industry at this point. Otherwise they'd not be making it illegal.
I 100% would replace all of my meat consumption with cultured meat as long as its reasonably umami/fatty/tastey/varied. Because I know how awful the meat industry is.
Plus it'd even be safer and healthier, especially given the destruction of food safety in this country. Little to zero communicable disease risk.
I unfortunately live in one of these prohibition states though. Just reinforces the idea that I need to get the fuck out of here, this place fucking sucks and the people here can suck shit.
To be fair, the republicans make lots of stupid shit illegal even when it’s not a threat at anything. They love virtue signaling through regulation and love creating laws that are based on conspiracy BS.
They made sharia law illegal in some places, even though there has never been the most remote chance it could come to the USA. They’re panicky fucking snowflakes. All conservatism is driven by fear.
Bathroom bills, chem trail laws. So many dumb examples of people trying to protect themselves from a boogeyman man that conservative media tells you to fear.
Well otherwise Medina ohio would absolutely have sharia law /s
The shit they push is the closest anything in this country has to Sharia. That's the irony of it all.
Eh, I'm not nearly so optimistic. They also got terribly worked up over the word "milk" and labeling plant based burger "burger".
It's more about bending over backwards to protect the meat and dairy industry from facing any possible missed revenue opportunity than protecting their actual bottom line, and more importantly about demonstrating their continued utility to the industry.
Kinda like how they'll work hard to prevent gun regulations that no one is actually proposing because the perception of the possibility of a threat is unacceptable.
I'll side with them on the milk thing. If I want milk in a product/recipe/dish, I very, very clearly do not want the water infused-flours that they are trying to call milk. I limit dairy as much as possible, but it absolutely does not get replaced in a recipe.
The Forme of Cury, a cookbook published in 1390, mentions almond milk. There's no "trying", we've been referring to non-dairy milk as milk (Middle English: mylke) for at least 650 years.
Shakespeare mentioned "the milk of human kindness"...
Wait, what were we talking about again?
It's a freak out because they've been called milks for an exceptionally long time. "Milk" has never exclusively meant the product of lactation in English. It's always referred to something white and more opaque than not.
http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/grec31.htm
As another reply mentioned, we specifically have recipes for almond milk from before modern English.
It's hardly a new thing, just something gaining popularity.
We have specific regulations to prevent consumers from buying the wrong thing within reason. Because most people assume milk means cow milk in the US, that's what the standard of identity for milk refers to. We don't need legislation specifically saying that plant milk can't use the word because you already can't pickup two jugs labeled "milk" and be unsure if they're the same thing. Same as goat milk, sheep milk, milk of magnesia, 2% milk, whole milk, skim milk, vitamin D milk, lactose free milk, chocolate milk or strawberry milk.
Hell, "muscle milk" is only technically barely a milk product, absolutely isn't milk (two milk derived proteins that using prevents a product from being labeled cheese and relegates it to "cheese product"), and would be stupendously unsuitable for cooking. No one complains about it, nor how it contains no muscle at all.
I'd find concerns of consumer protection a lot more credible if they had insisted that other animal milks couldn't be labeled as such, or at least objected to things like "coconut water", "rose water", "cactus water", "birch water", "maple water", "water chestnuts" or "watermelon". Consumers are evidently only confused by plant milk though, which also prevents them from reading the name of the product. Works fine for other animal milks though, and anything that isn't milky.
Milky way, milk thistle, milk weed, milk tree, dandelion milk... The list goes on. Oh, and don't forget cream of wheat or tartar, for when your milky substance is also thick.
I'm sorry, but if you don't alter the recipe to account for your chosen omission... your cooking must be absolute shite. 🥲
Milk has been used for crushed plant products with a milky consistency for millinia; longer than the English language, that's for sure. You bought a stupid argument sold to you by the dairy industry. The word for milk from a cow is dairy, not specifically milk. Milk of magnesia, poppy milk, and all kinds of other things are called milk, and they're not dairy substitutes, because that's not what that word means.
You should always stop and think, and maybe do some research, before making up your mind, especially when it's people who make money off of it trying to convince you of something.
Keep an eye on the Seattle election. If the progressive wins the race there will be a lot of gearing up for a huge influx of people. The people are expected either way but the progressive want to do something to house them and the conservatives want it all to be a surprise.
My family is interested in going international however.
Washington is where I will end up once financially stable again.
You might wanna check out those property & income tax stats, etc. first, though pretty much every state founded by those seeking to evade the long arm of the gov't back in the day is uniquely renowned. Just gotta find the place that makes the most sense for you. ✊🏼
Absolutely. I've done research and already know some locations, been up there half a dozen times easy. I was supposed to already be out of my fucked up state and up there, but life got in the way.
Well then! 🤘🏼 Good on ya! Feel free to ask for pointers re: this Upper Left Coast 🤓
All the information I’ve been able to find is that lab-grown meat scaling to anything like the commercial meat industry is a pipe dream. At least in the current state, the industrial requirements make economies of scale impossible.
I think this is more Texas republicans giving their ranch-owning donors a meaningless gesture of fealty.
ETA: here is a link to an article with more information https://thecounter.org/lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-scale/
I think that's the key. The cost has been going down over time, it'll get there eventually.
Its kind of like solar power. That seemed like a pipe dream for a long time as well but it just kept getting cheaper and cheaper.
This kinda feels inaccurate somehow.
Admittedly I don't know much (anything?) about this and in the 5 minutes I've spent skimming articles online it's been difficult to cut through marketing.
However, it seems like there's people producing and commercially selling specialty synthetic meats right now.
It's natural that initially, only specialty / expensive products will be commercially viable, and it seems like that's where we are right now.
I will be very surprised if synthetic lab-grown pork mince is not cheaper than the real stuff in 10 years time.
The barrier here is that hundreds of millions of years of animal evolution has extremely optimized their form, and the nature of growing only the muscle cells de-optimizes the system. Animals have immune systems; lab cells have to be kept in a sterile environment, a significant cost. Animals have digestive systems and can power cell growth and all other functions from common plant materials; lab cells have to be fed pre-digested and carefully proportioned material, a significant cost. Animals have circulatory systems that efficiently perfuse oxygen and nutrients, and remove waste; lab cell containers have to be centrifuged in small containers because the forces required in large containers damage the cells. And so on.
Lab-grown cuts are sold as a luxury good now, and I expect as the price comes down from 1000x animal-grown meat to more like 10x animal-grown meat they will become more widely eaten by rich conspicuous consumers.
The real opportunity for equal-tasting, cheaper, better for the environment "meat" is development of and efficiencies gained by scaling the lines of plant-based imitations like what Impossible and it's competitors are doing.
To your point, the value I see is if this process can be used to duplicate exotic meats, that could protect some species from over-harvesting and poaching. Of course, that supposes a circumstance where the environment that produces the natural specimen is not a fundamental requirement to make the meat desirable.
I've had impossible burger and while they're OK tasting they're not equal tasting. Further, after eating one I felt very strange, like my body had some sort of reaction to it.
You're talking about the cost to grow boutique lab grown meat that is the same as animal meat but grown in a vat. That cost 10,000 dollars a kilogram right now.
Go taste an impossible meat burger someplace and check the price and see its only slightly more expensive than animal meat, even now in the relatively early days. Beyond meat is a 4 billion dollar company. Its a viable business model.
The law is talking about lab-grown animal protein, not vegetable derived meat substitutes like Impossible or Beyond Meat.
fair point
I don't think it is yet, but they want laws on the book protecting them before they have money to lobby against them. They don't want a fair fight. They want to make sure they have the upper hand before the fight even starts.
Same.
I will never go Vegan but if Lab Grown Meat becomes an option I'll do that.
What's so dumb is that there is more than enough money sloshing around in the industries associated with the SAD to probably buy into cultured meat and profit anyway...
If you leave then it will always remain shit, kind of the only thing keeping me in the states as a whole. Volunteer for parties who oppose Republicans, whoever has the best chance of winning. Go door to door. Talk with people like real people, change their minds.
I get the motivation to try and stay around and make things better but I'm well past that. I've been trying to change minds for a while, I can only assume I'm just bad at it.
I also don't really owe this place my time and energy. If people in this state want to wallow in shit that's their prerogative but I'm not getting pulled into that shit if I can avoid it. Though it looks like economically I wont be able to avoid it. Moving is expensive and if I move I'll need a new job and the job market is terrible right now.
If this was about knowing you would have been passing labeling laws.
You don't need a law to stop people who already don't want to do something. This isn't for millions of Texans it's for a few rich assholes who want to shut down competition.
If we're talking about the kind of cowboys that get a corrupt government to back them up as they crush their rivals and bleed the people dry, then sure.
Theocracy confirmed.
Made me laugh out loud
Bro its a common expression
Nah.
Maybe try going to a civilized state.
Literally "God-given right" is just a common turn of phrase, they use it in blue states too.
Don't be the guy from the "When the Atheist realizes he's playing God of War instead of Science of War" meme
These are theocratic fascists. There is no benefit of the doubt for them.
Still no excuse to be cringe
Oh no, wouldn't want to be seen as cringe while trying to defend my country from fascism 🙄
I mean unironically yes.
It's called not alienating potiential allies.
I say it everyday as I drink beer out my 10-gallon hat on my horse who is also wearing a hat while riding into the sunset, also wearing a hat
They don't want lab grown meat because they don't know what's in it, but they voted to allow crops to be watered with recycled fracking water
https://cleantechnica.com/2025/06/12/texas-approves-use-of-fracking-wastewater-to-irrigate-crops/
Chicken bathed in chlorine, meat filled to the brink with antibiotics and now also crops containing waste from the petrochemical industry? Glad to know what's on the average plate in Texas, don't mind me enjoying a lab-grown piece of meat for which every component has been accounted for.
The fuck guys...
Free market my fucking ass
Freedom to fuck over certain groups of people who threaten their power. So brave.
You are free to bribe a politician and influence the market all you want /s
I'm pretty sure this is a huge self own and in a decades time Texans who enjoy knowing what's on their plate will be envious of their interstate bretheren enjoying tastier healthier cuts at a reduced price.
Congratulations, you understand every Texas legislative session since Ann Richards was governor.
Reduced price seems like a massive stretch.
The costs of production are decreasing dramatically.
The most recent development is switching to a plant based growth medium instead of fetal bovine serum (?) which will reduce costs by 80%.
So long as there are multiple producers they will compete on price.
The fact that you think it'll be cheaper shows you havent been paying very much attention to capitalism.
Everytime a thing like this comes along, that promises a cheaper, better solution.. It ends up being neither .
The goal is ALWAYS a more PROFITABLE product, with good marketability potential.
Quality, service, reliability, affordability, etc., are all secondary. It's nice when they are positive, too, but they can all be compromised for more profit.
Yep.
All that matters is profit.
And they arent gonna leave profit hanging on the vine by pricing their producting below the product they are competing against, even if their hypothetical costs are 90% less.
Right, which is why if there were more than one company producing lab-grown meat, they would in fact compete against each other.
Of course, anti-monopoly legislation is rarely enforced in the US, but sometimes it is.
If cutting profit per sale in half results in 2.5x more sales they will.
This isbpatently false, and disregards the fundamentals of economics. Well done.
Oh well, if you say it, it must be true.. even if it flies in the face of established capitalist behavior and precedent.
Yes capitalists are profit maximisers.
However, many competing producers will minimise the cost to consumers.
This is true of any technology ever developed.
Lab grown animal cells will always be more expensive than animal-grown animal cells. Animals have immune systems; lab cells have to be kept in a sterile environment, a significant cost. Animals have digestive systems and can power cell growth and all other functions from common plant materials; lab cells have to be fed pre-digested and carefully proportioned material, a significant cost. Animals have circulatory systems that efficiently perfuse oxygen and nutrients, and remove waste; lab cell containers have to be centrifuged in small containers because the forces required in large containers damage the cells. And so on.
The real potential for equal-tasting, cheaper, better-for-environment cuts is in plant-based imitations like what Impossible brand and its competitors are doing.
These laws banning lab grown cells are banning designer lab-grown cuts as a luxury good. Once that market matures, I am sure the wealthy people who jump on the conspicuous consumption bandwagon will not have any problem getting the law repealed or exceptions carved out for them.
Your entire comment assumes the state of the art for lab growing proteins is static and will not enjoy economies of scale.
I used to argue with a guy who thought that nuclear was the only power for the future, and things like solar and wind were too small and inefficient to bother with. I always said that he was arguing about a future where none of these solutions had any development or growth
Sure, back then solar and wind were tiny, but that doesn't mean that you chuck it all out. You stick with it, do the research, and eventually it becomes a viable option, which is exactly what happened.
The same will happen with meat. Now it's cost-prohibitive, but one by one, they'll conquer the bottlenecks and inefficiencies, and eventually it will become a viable option.
That guy was right. And if we completely switched over and ignored the fear campaigns promoted by coal/oil/gas we’d have one of the safest and greenest electrical grids.
i would argue nuclear isn't the only power for the future, but it's a great backbone for a flexible green grid also with solar, wind and hydro.
Not really.
Yes the fear campaigns have been detrimental and it's unfortunate that Nuclear has often been set aside over the decades because of the risk of mismanagement.
However, it's only part of a reliable electrical grid, it's not "the solution".
In Australia for example, our population density is too low. Too much power would be lost in transmission. Perhaps in a few major cities it might be appropriate but it's too costly to support a nuclear industry for only a few installations.
Nuclear might be a great solution in many instances but it's probably not in Australia.
To be fair: People used to argue that Nuclear would get much cheaper and so cheap and safe that you could even power your car with it. They thought that everyone would have their own nuclear reactor at home giving them close to infinite cheap and clean energy.
That didn't exactly turn out that way.
That's the issue with using future developments as an argument. We don't really know where the future leads the technology and which limitations will be overcome with development and which ones won't.
There are thousands of cool things that were posed to become the future revolution. Some of them did, many more of them didn't.
20 years ago, hydrogen fuel cell cars were to become the future. Now the technology is completely dead.
From a current tech standpoint economy of scale is not nearly enough to get the price of lab meat to the price of animal meat. The ingredients are just much more complex and thus expensive.
From a future tech standpoint, who knows? Could be that some revolutionary breakthrough happens. Or could be that it doesn't. And if it doesn't, it won't get cheaper.
I am sure it will enjoy economies of scale. Lab grown meat is currently something like 1000x the cost of animal-grown meat: I am confident they can get that down to 10x, maybe single digits. I am equally confident the inherent inefficiency of growing muscle cells without the integrated functions of the rest of the animal mean the lab cost will never be lower.
1,000×? That’s ancient history. In 2013, yeah, the first cultured burger was $330,000 (Wikipedia). Now?
SuperMeat is running full 25,000 L tanks at $11.79/lb (Green Queen, AgFunderNews) — that’s premium chicken territory, not sci-fi pricing.
Believer Meats is modeling $6.20/lb with TFF tech (Green Queen) — organic chicken prices.
Average industry cost right now is $17–23/lb (Katie Couric Media) and even a conservative academic model puts big-scale production at $28.50/lb (ScienceDirect). Still single-digit multiples, not thousands.
So no — we’re not talking “someday maybe.” We’re already at 2–4× conventional chicken for the best setups, and the price curve is still falling. Will it ever be cheaper than farm-grown? Maybe, maybe not — inefficiency is real. But “never” is a bet against tech that’s already crushed costs by over 99.99% in a decade.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosa_Meat
https://www.greenqueen.com.hk/supermeat-cultivated-lab-grown-meat-cost-process
https://agfundernews.com/supermeat-offers-glimpse-into-a-future-where-cultivated-meat-can-be-produced-at-scale-for-11-79-lb
https://katiecouric.com/news/sustainability/what-is-lab-grown-meat-benefits-and-challenges
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666154322000916
You've really just enumerated some of the advantages traditional production has over synthetic meats.
Animals need arable land - something which will be in very short supply given climate change.
Animals are a significant source of greenhouse gas production.
Raising animals is in many cases unethical.
Synthetic meat production is not as dependent on regular climate cycles.
Animal husbandry is a mature technology with little opportunity for advancement.
I wish my stomach could handle impossible meats but they just immediately go through me. For me going towards a more plant based diet will require avoiding highly processed meat replacements.
That's interesting, I hadn't realized they affected some people that way. I have noticed their "beef" and "pork" products include a lot of fat, maybe the greasy slipperiness contributes to the effect? I'd like to think use in dishes where the other ingredients are low-fat would balance things out, but if not that's sad for that brand.
In my case it’s the pea protein isolates. That burger spent so little time in my belly that I doubt I digested much of it.
edit: pea proteins are a known problem for my family
that explains a lot. there's that restaurant down in santa nella that you either love or it gives you the runs and i never thought it was a heritable pea protein thing.
It's specifically the ultra processed isolated proteins from peas. I can eat cooked peas or raw in pod peas without a problem but vegan pea based "ice cream" is in my belly for minutes at best. For ice cream replacements it has to be oat or coconut based.
thank you for sharing more info. i've not explored it too much myself.
It's about appeasing the rich cattle ranchers, just like their lax environmental and zoning laws for oil and industry. The gulf of Mexico around Texas is extremely polluted.
You follow the meat, you get butchers and meat eaters.
But you start to follow the money, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna take you.
Google AI awnser
Texas leads the United States in cattle production, holding the top spot for beef cows and overall cattle inventory. In 2024, Texas had 4,075,000 beef cows, accounting for 14.62% of the U.S. total, according to the National Beef Wire. Texas also ranks first in the number of all cattle and calves, with 12.2 million head. This represents a significant portion of the U.S. cattle population, with Texas alone accounting for 14% of the total. Here's a breakdown of Texas meat production by numbers:
Texas's dominance in cattle production significantly contributes to the state's economy and the overall U.S. beef supply.
So y'all would be on board with a law to have meat packaging list everything the animals had been injected with, right?
I think they missed a word. We have a God-given right to know what's allowed on our plates here in Texas. They won't feed us, but they'll sure as shit knock food out from our hands if it affects their bottom line.
..he's right over here mr ICE officer, sir. I cant smell any patriotism on him and he's threatening the food supply. Probably a member of antifa and peta too.
Cowards.
Lab grown meat is a dead meme imo but acting like Texan beef comes from grass fed cows in pastures and not from hellish factory farms where they get fed corn until their liver dies sure sounds stupid
Ah, the cattle ranchers bribed the legislature into letting them have a bit of ye olde protectionism. Great. /s
This sounds a lot like anti-vaxxing, where people want to "know" what's in their vaccine. Like it's a conspiracy.
I bet the lab folks could tell you what's in their product much better than ranchers and meat processing factories ever could. A lot of science goes into it though and some people seem to be allergic to that, at least based on the sorts of claims they make.
Yes, that’s basically the idea, I guess.
Like with vaccines.
It doesn’t fit in a Tweet though.
A scientist telling you the name of every compound of some food doesnt make you actually know whats in it. Theres a big difference between knowing the name and knowing the thing and how it affects your body.
Well if it really mimics the real thing it will probably be a type 1 carcinogen too.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. Are you suggesting that lab-grown meat wouldn't be controlled by existing laws on what can be in food and will contain some chemical with unknown effects on the human body (outside of those in natural meat)? And that we know all about the effects of whatever contaminants or bio-accumulants may end up in natural meat? I don't believe either of those. If we went further and listed everything that went into the animal and the culture that grew the meat, for which we would know more about the effect on the human body?
To reiterate, I bet the lab folks could tell you the effect of their product on your body much better than ranchers and meat processing factories (or anyone else) ever could of theirs.
My point is about how people trust new types of food. Knowing the name of the compounds in a food doesnt help in making someone trust it. People trust alimentary habits that are centuries old more than a newly developed method that they have no familiarity with. Im talking about trust on safety regulations rather than the actual regulations.
If only Texans could read (labels) they would know instantly. The end of the quote is the real focus: they want to protect the ranching industry by killing competition from plant based products.
The SmAlL gOvErNmEnT GOP, playing favorites and legislating in favor of one of the unhealthiest, ecologically devastating industries on the planet... But their voters will keep voting for the corruption!
Why won't anyone let the market decide?!? 😭
It's about control, they don't want us deciding anything.
I mean, I am all in for labeling, but banning it? Is that what's happening? why would anyone do that
Protectionism for meat companies is why.
If the meat companies had any sense, they'd be pushing for and funding it. That much moneyh and not owning the competition is just flat out stupid.
Exactly, they would profit more from planting whatever crop is needed to supply raw materials to the lab-grown facility, than the efficiency loss of raising cattle for protien
That's the thing. It's too late for them to get in on the real ground floor. The tech is already basically here with increasingly well established companies. Now the cheapest best optionfor the old meat companies to stay competitive is to try to block the new competition. Of course that method won't hold up long term but we all know shareholders only care about next quarter.
Freedom.
Republicans are not fit to govern.
The only place conservatives fit is in a box six feet under ground.
We need to be funding this stuff.
Move all meat subsidies into lab-grown meat to save animals and still have meat. Easy.
Everybody trying to act like it's bad is lying and likes animals getting hurt.
It's just plain cowboy logic!
“Free market” capitalism.
All to protect q few rich cowboys
Meanwhile pedophiles can continue on pedoing, the president can run extortion rackets and commit fraud and tell every lie possible, but that doesn't matter that much I guess
It's plain cowboy logic
looks like we'll have to replace 🤡 with 🤠 now
Is it not the case in the US that cowboy something means that something is a scam/crook/dishonest?
I assumed cowboy means scammer/crook was common in all English speaking countries.
I'm not a native English speaker though I'm good enough at it that I usually understand sayings and proverbs without issue. I've never heard of this cowboy however.
You just said the same thing twice, except framed the fact as an innocent question first with your personal assumption as its reference point. I'm going to assume it's a language thing and not a shitty argument tactic, though...
The short answer is no.
¿Por que no los dos?
Clownboy has the same number of syllables and even phonic adjacency with only minor alveolar adds. ✊🏼 I mean, they're all really into dressup, after all... Call 'em like ya see 'em. 🤌🏼
wow, thats not a great move for the environment or the history of humankind. Oh well.
Its a zero win. I would have eaten this because I'm vegan. Meat eaters would prefer normal meats. Now I go back to just beans. Fuck rather I won't even say what I eat. That way the retards leading this stupid Rednoseance won't ban whatever I plan to eat next. Heck you know what? I'm totally going to eat beef. The most expensive kind of beef and chicken. Yeah! Totally. I'm a vegan and I will go eat the most popular meats out there!
What company do I invest in to support this?
This will be bigger than legal weed and the idiot states banning it are showing us yet again how fucking stupid they are.
Edit
Upside Foods, but ANIC , AGNMF, and CULTF are the investing groups.
Is there any legit reason to be against lab grown meat?
The most likely reason would be that the people who pay for your vacations and prostitutes own cattle.
no, other then the drug industry not being able to pump crap into the animals to then be fed to humans.
There's an argument for labeling so people can make an informed choice; I would actively seek it put for ethical reasons while som might avoid it.
I can only think of bad reasons for an outright ban.
I think the main question is if production is viable on a commercial scale, the last I heard it wasn't very likely to be in the foreseeable future.
I'm a big fan of impossible meats, and as a normal meat eater I would still happily eat impossible if it was available. My wife doesn't eat meat so we've replaced all ground beef recipes with impossible, it makes great chili, meatballs, burgers, etc.
But I've been wondering about it because it seems to be an ultra processed food, especially compared to real meat. What are the implications of this? On the whole is it really any better than beef or chicken? Especially locally sourced, high quality meat, not from a mega farm. How much water is used in making lab grown meat? What other chemicals are used? What's the cost of shipping all those ingredients and finished product across the country? How much power is used in production and manufacturing? What is the difference in health impact of lab grown vs real? How does this all compare to a local beef producer?
I'm not ready to quit impossible, and I'd hate to, but I wonder if it's really the best decision.
I wonder about all this, too.
Price
It's an ultra luxury item that can't be available to the masses (yet) and needs to mature as a product.
There will be problems that we dont know about yet, and IF it destroys the ability to provide local alternative (traditional meat produced as responsible as is possible, which is already a problem)until it can take over, it will only accelerate the razing of the Amazon
Just an opinion, I could very well be wrong but I'm trying to offer an actual answer for the sake of discussion. I'm not personally opposed to culture meat or whatever is going to be called when marketing starts trying to sell it, for the record
The fact that it's artificial and has who knows what in it to create the abomination with who knows what health effects it has?
Reduce consumption, production, and our population and keep eating actual fucking meat. We're going to fuck around and screw ourselves royally because we refused to do the simplest goddamn solutions to the problems we created.
Now I'm probably not the intended audience, but if you told me you were doing something with 'cowboy logic', I think I'd be left with a very different impression than they were intending.
My wife grew up on a ranch. She was very offended when we were in the UK and she realized the term 'cowboy' referred to incompetent trades people who consistently did bad jobs. It made me laugh though.
There's a similar connotation in the US, basically calling someone reckless. Like many words, it can be used with a positive or negative meaning depending on context.
Feels kinda unconstitutional to me. They could say you can't sell it for consumption, but not sell it at all seems like an overstep.
Regulatory capture in action
More freedumb.
Mother fuckers. Can we outlaw these lawmakers from breathing air. Fuck that noise. These fucker don't care what people put in their bodies or they be regulations on the pfsa and shit. How can we overturn this BS and how can I stop Oklahoma from passing this bill?
Oklahoma will pass a worse version, somehow.
Because putting artificial lab meat with who knows what in it is so much better, right?
Jesus fuck, sure, the motives here are typical auth-right follow the money bullshit, but the actual idea to ban lab meat is good. This is just typical nutter vegan "SAVE THE ANIMALS" / pseudoenvironmentalism bullshit that could be fixed by lower consumption, lower production, and lower human population.
Why would anyone assume we won't know what's in lab grown meat? If we make it, we will know.
Also, it's pretty hilarious to watch people suddenly freak out about not knowing what they're eating. People try foreign foods all the time without knowing what's in them. I've had servers who didn't know ranch dressing contained mayo. Can you name every ingredient in tiramisu, or bouillabaisse, or penang curry? You wouldn't think twice about eating those.
Love how you assume these corporations behind it will tell us all the details.
It's horrible, unnatural in all the worst ways, and possibly dangerous when a much, much simpler solution exists called JUST FUCKING EAT REAL MEAT YOU GODDAMN SHITLORDS.
Easiest solution? Spread those ticks that give meat sensitivity around
Where? Barely two blades of grass still standing in this state that haven't been paved over.
This kind of fucking stupidity is why we're all fucking doomed
To cheer Yourselves up, think about how livid Texans are, that they weren't the first.
Checks out…
Call it something else, rebrand it. We could say that if it didnt come from an animal, its not meat, its just a protein cake or a red pudding, or something. Could it avoid the ban this way?
They didnt ban any vegan protein source, they banned the exact one that tries to make you feel like youre eating beef. The name "Lab-grown meat" tells those ranchers that it wants to replace them, its unnecessarily aggressive, which innevitably creates a reaction.
It's like changing "lab-grown butter" to margarine. Lol, can't stop people from whipping oil.
I still really want to get off this ride... i have been over it for a long time.
Fuck stupid people.
Fuck them in their stupid asses!
Isn’t that something only the federal government can regulate? “To regulate Commerce … among the several States”? Then again, who cares about the constitution anymore I guess
No. States can ban local sales of products that are legal in other states. A common example is that some states ban guns with certain features.
You will only eat what Good Leader likes to eat!
The GOP wants government so small it can swim up your pee stream and live in your penis.
Stupid protectionism for a flawed business model.
Can’t they just call it something else?
Plant protein? Bean Patty? Vegetarian saturated fat delivery system?
They're not plant-based. They're actually synthetically growing meat without having to kill an animal. And calling it "Man Meat" sounds wrong.
Synthetic protein fibers!
Soylent protien? /j
Cultured Beef/pork/chicken etc is my guess at what we will land on
It's what the diamond industry did with success
That being said I'm really curious about Lab grown meats for endangered species that are still being hunted/poached to extinction as a means to fill the demand.
Black market/3 letter agency operations flooding the market to destroy the value of actually killing endangered species would be an interesting path that happens
But we suck so it would probably end up fueling a greater demand because profits and greed
I hate having dangerous ideas that could solve problems but are busy likely to backfire
Pretty sure beans are 1000% a bigger threat to ranchers.
total obscurantism
Soylent protien?
Cultured Beef/pork/chicken etc is my guess at what we will land on
That being said I'm really curious about Lab grown meats for endangered species that are still being hunted/poached to extinction as a means to fill the demand.
Black market/3 letter agency operations flooding the market to destroy the value of actually killing endangered species would be an interesting path that happens
But we suck so it would probably end up fueling a greater demand because profits and greed
I hate having dangerous ideas that could solve problems but are busy likely to backfire
Edit: hit the wrong reply button but leaving it here anyways