Trump's approval rating still negative while the public sours further on Democrats, CNBC survey shows
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I mean, I'm souring on the Democrats because they haven't fucking done anything to divert us from this disaster.
The Dems are fairly low on my list of the blame game. But they're still on the list!
They could do the bare minimum.
Fuck, pick at least 1 and I don't get paid $200k with life time benefits and insider knowledge.
Ha. They'll never do that. It's the only policy they didn't abandon when they got pushback.
Bare minimum is all people want to see. That is why I want democratic socialism but most people are scared off by socialism.
What is called "democratic socialism" these days mostly just amounts to a market economy with a reasonable level of social security and public infrastructure.
I genuinely don't understand why it's proponents call it democratic socialism. That name will immediately turn off a lot of Americans. Should have called it democratic patriotism or something.
They'll be called socialists no matter what they call themselves. Might as well embrace it.
Democrats would rather have permanent dictatorship run by a pedo than deliver the bare minimum.
Aipac bought them, neither side will ever go against evil jizzrael
I would like to see Democrats publicly proposing that we will hold ICE agents accountable, with a plan that would actually work - we rendition them to the home nations of their victims.
SCOTUS is so corrupt that the US justice system needs to be bypassed entirely when bringing ICE agents to justice. But if you're an ICE agent that is operating a concentration camp where Venezuelan citizens are killed? Your ass should be sent off to Venezuela for trial. SCOTUS will doubtlessly protect the Nazi thugs, but Venezuela will hold them accountable. Let them rot in some hellhole prison down there.
I want politicians to be talking about this now, to make clear that crimes against humanity will not be forgiven or forgotten.
They cannot do half the shit on your list even if they held a majority which they do not.
They could publicly announcs they will and actual support those that do.
They're very high on mine. They created the conditions that allowed Trump to take power. They've fought tooth and nail to keep everyone who might have been able to prevent this disaster away from the levers of power. The Democrats are the rachet preventing the rest of the country from stopping (or gasp reversing) the Republican-led march to fascism.
They're active participants in the fascist take over. They normalize fascism and act as controlled opposition to keep those who would oppose it out of power and out of the conversation
Can always count on centrists to gaslight anyone to their left.
If Joe Biden had put Donald Trump behind bars on his first day of office for the January 6 attack we wouldn't be here right now. Everything good he ever did is irrelevant because he failed to stop the coup
I wouldn't even blame him if he had honestly failed, but he didn't even try
Why would he try?
The Democrats banked on the idea that Trump is the easiest candidate to win against, despite Clinton loosing to him in 2016. And it was clear with Biden. He wasn't voted because people liked him. He was voted because people were dissatisfied with Trumps first term. And Biden managed to fuck up so badly, that people rather chose Trump for a second round than to deal with Biden or Harris, who stated explicitly that she will do everything like Biden.
The Democrats thought that Trump is perfect as he lets them get away with being the worst version of themselves and they'd rather see another Trump presidency than actually provide good policies for the people.
Joe Biden has run for president so many times and had never really gotten close to being nominated because he sucks. For his entire career he has been one of the shittiest, most conservative, most bloodthirsty democrats who loved every project in which he could work with the good folks across the aisle. He finally got the gig (when he was losing his mental faculties) because the media, party, and cowardly electorate couldn't stomach Bernie Sanders and nobody liked the rest of the field. (Harris didn't even make it to the first primary elections.) A coordinated drop out and endorsement of Biden of everyone but Biden before super Tuesday sealed the deal. Some people associated Biden with fond memories of the Obama years, but nobody really thought he was an inspiring candidate. I'd bet if not for covid 19, Trump would not have lost.
But I'm supposed to pretend he was the next FDR or something because of some bare minimum infrastructure and industry bills. Give me a fucking break.
The house is burning down. I'm obviously blaming the arsonists, but I'm also lying blame at the firefighters who decided to not do their duty.
"Hey listen, the wild bear is the one mauling everyone in the school. Blame the bear! Yes, we placed honey in the open door and smeared the children's faces with fresh salmon, but it's the bear that is eating the children. Please donate to help me scold the bear."
I don't like comparing Trump and co to wild animals, simply because they are so much more malicious.
Hard to argue that. But Trump et al are significantly stupider than bears, so it probably evens out.
Hey remember those bear proof trash cans that turned out to be tourist proof as well? How long do you think it'd take Trump et al to open one?
Does "et al" include a bear?
When they get the ball, they won't play offense. When they lose the ball, they won't play defense.
Dems are perfectly happy with feeling smug in their political moral superiority and their insider trading. Why take power, and have to work hard? Chuck Schumer would rather compose stern letters to people who can't read.
Well, no, but let's not forget they did a whole lot to contribute to it. Remember Joe Biden? Yeah... We could have had Bernie.
Worse still, they seem eager to contribute to it. Just look at all the 2028 hopefuls lining up to validate Republican talking points about immigrants and trans people
Well the Overton window has moved so far to the right that the Democrats now sit where the Republican's did 16 years ago.
And they're still chasing republicans rightward.
Yes, it's what they do instead of introspection.
Voters made sure to put them in the minority in all levels of government.
What did they do to get people to vote for them? Because they spent the last 4 years doing the "Everything is fine" meme while everyone's quality of life rapidly started to deteriorate. Even candidates in Democratic strongholds saw their numbers nose dive last year because they have nothing to offer people other than "we aren't Trump".
If only it were just that. They made it perfectly clear that they lied about all of the individual benefits in build back better and never had any intention at all of passing them. They made it clear that they won't increase the minimum wage and that it will remain stuck at 7.25 forever. They didn't revisit the public option. They didn't protect Roe. They didn't protect democracy with the John Lewis Voting Rights Act. They didn't reschedule cannabis. The only person who could count on democrats to do what they said they would was netanyahu.
Democrats have a massive credibility problem and they earned it.
Meanwhile trump had project 2025 and is implementing it, much better than doing nothing!
There it is! The assumption that anyone who is upset in the slightest with democrats for any reason whatsoever must be a trumper!
You lost to trump because you did nothing, but you don't want the party to ever improve, so you'll keep blaming anyone who doesn't love how the only thing the party can ever seem to accomplish is selling weapons for genocide.
I didn't lose to anyone, I'm an ocean away from that steaming pile of shit, but fun assuming.
Like you're one to talk about assuming.
Not only that but they completely threw away any semblance of morality with the Gaza genocide and they allowed Trump to get away with the January 6th attack enabling his return
Exactly. But we still have weasels even on here defending their genocide-loving asses. The Democratic party needs to be purged or burned to the ground. We're in a two party system. And the Democratic party is currently the biggest barrier to progress in the country. It is fundamentally beyond reformation. Only by burning it to ashes will leave space for an actual left wing party to rise.
Don't look now, but you summoned one.
Yes, if democrats were in power, people would be starving in Gaza right now. Wait...
Why are you pretending that you don't love it anymore?
Never had, fuck Israel and fuck netanyahu. But Biden at least pretended to help. Even if it didn't help that much, building a pier for humanitarian help is better than building a gaudy hotel and golf resort.
Maybe Kamala would have won if Biden stopped all aod to Israel?
I doubt it, the goalpost would have been moved. Kamala was clearly less bad and still lost.
"we aren't trump" is the best argument. I wish the American people the day they voted for.
Which is why the Dems propped up Trump, so the only argument they would need to qualify for was "we aren't Trump". And people got tired of that "good cop, bad cop" game, where both parties are ultimately against the people.
So they chose the worst of both options? Again, have the day y'all voted for.
Clearly it's not since it didn't wven work against George W Bush 20 years ago. It worked against Trump in 2020 because the morges were literally over flowing with COVID deaths.The Democrats keep slodding firther and further right but become less and less popular each time, while people like you atrack their critics rather than the people who keep doing the exact same political games that keep losing elections.
The critics contributed to electing trump, so I do criticize them. At the time of the election, it's time to get behind the candidate.
Bitch all you want during the primaries, but when your candidate loses and trump is the alternative it's time to hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils.
It'd say I hope Americans learn and next time elect Bernie or AOC, but they have shown time and again that they will elect a corporate dem and the shitshow will continue. I'll be over here enjoying universal Healthcare and smugness. You guys do whatever it is you're doing.
Your anger (scorn?) is just completely misdirected.
Not a lot of Republicans on lemmy to argue with, and they are beyond reach, deep in a cult.
We keep getting told by the Democrats that we can't have universal healthcare and that we ahould be grateful for the privilege of paying $600 a month for our health insurance premiums.
Yeah, the condescending "erm you're being childish and unrealistic! That's not possible because we don't want to do it sweaty"
Some democrats. Bernie, AOC, and a bunch of other are all for it. But outside of NYC and Southern California, people don't vote for those democrats, they vote for the Bidens of the world.
the election is over and you're still behind him.
I am still saying that he's (or she's) better than trump, and the caricature some American "leftists" portray is just bullshit. In the context of American president's during my lifetime, top 3 easily.
Only because democrats didn't have accomplishments to run on.
They had plenty, but the best was "we aren't going to run the country into the ground on a speed run", aka "we are not trump".
Not being trump isn't an accomplishment.
I beg to differ, but they had plenty of others which are much less easy to understand, there's many copy pastas around with whole lists.
They’ve had a bunch of long talks on the floor of congress.
In a functioning democracy this would be a great time to launch a 3rd party.
Unfortunately we wished for it on a monkeys paw and we got the America Party.
I would really love to see one, but there is none. The Greens and Libertarians aren't it, and the America Party certainly isn't it.
There should be a broad party with just these four issues:
Run good, credible candidates for every seat on every level, and I don't see how you can lose.
Well, unless the media ignores you, which will probably happen.
The Dems are like the Keystone Cops bungling around while a wannabe dictator continues to take America apart.
Even if the Dems had decent candidates, their strategy and tactics are ineffective.
It’s like we get the worst of anyone who wants to be a politician, either side of the aisle.
Simple reason is....it takes a ton of fucking money to run a campaign. Even small county judge races cost at least 50-80k. How many good, down to earth people can drop their job, spend 80k on campaign shit and get out alive?
Even with party money, you'll still be struggling. Plus, who wants to be holden to the same old bullshit system?
Very good points. It’s why money needs to be taken out of politics. Many other countries have figured that out.
Citizens United really was the nail in the coffin for American politics.
100% agree. If we do have a landslide in 2026 without MAGA's cancer. Maybe we can end Citizens United!
Democrats have been campaigning on and doing nothing about Citizens United for years.
Exactly. Because they're not prepared to do what's actually necessary - reform the filibuster to allow it to be removed. Democrats have all these high-minded plans, but they all require a margin in the Senate they will never reasonably achieve. And even if by some miracle they did get 60 seats in the Senate, there will always be a rotating villain to throw a wrench in the works. Mamdani won not just because he had plans, but because he had very specific plans. He could tell people exactly how he intended to pass those plans. Democrats don't actually have a plan for repealing Citizens United. They just have vague notions about repealing Citizens United.
They're not willing to. The filibuster is democrats' perfect excuse for not passing things that they ran on but never had any intention of ever implementing.
Of course they don't. You don't plan to do things you don't intend to do.
I mean, Mamdani and Bernie proved that this is a very solvable problem. Small dollar donations are more than enough to get a candidate with popular policies into victory.
Democrats were recently caught having a fund raising scheme so corrupt that it should be a capital offense to run such a thing. Those spammy text messages we were getting asking for donations? Turns out 98% of the money donated to those went straight into the pockets of consultants. The party's primary reason for existence is not to advance policy goals, but to steal money from liberal donors.
It was only very recently that the US legalized paying a wage from campaign contributions, too.
Almost like it was all rigged, something trump admitted out loud, more than once.
On video
Anyone with enough brains to be an effective leader has fucked off into retirement. Nobody wants to renovate the Titanic when it's already halfway underwater.
The Titanic has the largest military force and nuclear arsenal on this planet tho
Dems have the uncanny ability to suck so much that they torch goodwill even when the public hates what Trump is doing. Replace the geriatric fucks with your people who can actually inspire the voting base again, like a certain guy in NY.
Elections in the US won't ever be free or fair ever again now that the child fucker is back in charge, the GOP have spent decades taking control of the courts & gerrymandering their way to absolute control.
The only way that democracy and workers rights can be restored at this point is if everyone starts picking up their guns and starts systematically executing billionaires & their puppets. There are more of you than them, it's time you started acting like it.
Also let's be honest Trump could just send Ice to go arrest every Hispanic voter in line during early voting and he would scare enough people away from voting to win in a landslide. There's absolutely nothing I would stop him from doing that. What did the Democrats going to do? A sternly worded letter?
I knew the American public was fucking stupid but I didn't think they would continue declining this quickly.
You public is equally stupid, i guarantee it. Neoliberal parties are cratering across the globe because they are advocating for the system that is grinding everyone down. Labour, the SDP, and Rennasisance, are all getting clobbered in the polls because they keep advocating for the same failed system that led us to the mess we are in now. Hell, Italians keep voting for Mussolini's literal centerold granddaughter. Or the Dirch voting for PVV, or Hungary and Orban, or PiS in Poland. And since Western powers have spent the last 80 years crushing any actual leftist policies, people everywhere are supporting rightwing parties because they are the loudest voices offering a change. what is happening on America is happening all across Europe right now. Or are American voters responsible for how people in Europe vote as well?
Throwing a wrench in the system is basically the only option anyone has so are we surprised the critical mass of pissed off people vaguely racist opinions are doing so?
People like you are the ones I was referring to.
Oh, so it's only America that is stupid. Europeans are incredibly rational when their far right fascists poll better than centrist liberals.
The right in Germany saw gains after the US Billionaire Elon Musk funded and promoted them.
Ah yes, Americans are morons when South African racists encourages them to be racist. But not Germans. They are incredibly rational and smart when South African racists encourage them to be racist.
I think theres a pretty stark difference between Germany shifting right after a long time of centrism and leftism to the USA shifting right while currently in a rightward theocratic nationalist hellscape.
People like you are bigots. The only group of people it's okay to hate. Because you choose to be how you are.
Oh okay, you're literally sitting there saying that leftist political parties don't represent anyone and that violent uprising is the only option but I'm the bigot, that tracks have a nice life.
Are you claiming that democrats are a leftist anything?
-a bigoted asswipe
And I said nothing of the kind about anything leftist. Just that you're a bigot.
The pure irony that you youself did in fact author those words, well played
Lol yes I suppose I'm bigoted...against bigots
How negative can it be if he keeps winning and doing whatever he wants?
Who cares? They don't need ratings. Why even post this?
Because we are all sick and tired of only having conservatives to vote for.