Spyke

This post is attracting a lot of trolls. You guys are handling it great, so I'm not going to lock it. Reminder to not take any of the downvotes or "calm down"s seriously.

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So long have white people yearned for representation in media. Never getting to see people that look like them on the television. Justice finally being done for white people.

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Pencilnoobreply
lemmy.world

I didn't get this at first, but wow yeah really it says it right on the shirt

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Pencilnoobreply
lemmy.world

I find it mildly amusing to imagine that it says "Hot Girls, Fat Arby's", which is a subversion of the expectation, and also elicits the image of a big fat Arby's mascot

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Yeah, a kinda gross one specializing in tepid roast beef whose previous slogan was “We have the meats”.

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It’s fuckin’ wild how I can read this one line of text and know everything there is to know about you.

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sh.itjust.works

It's the highest degree of freemasonry, and also believed to be the age Jesus was when he died. It's a major theme in a lot of conspiracy theories that the powers that be tend to sneak the number into things they control, either as gang like tagging or because they believe it gives them power.

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lemmy.world

Man, whatever happened to good old-fashioned 5 and 23? Does the Illuminati mean nothing to people any more?

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lemmyknowreply
lemmy.today

What's up with 5 and 23? Why not the integral of the limit of the square root of arctan of x as x tends to 0?

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The only numbers I've seen snuck into things are 42 and 47.

Edit: The 47 thing is actually old and goes back to an in-joke among the Star Trek TNG writing staff. Not that other thing.

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Nothing that I know of. Any ither use of 33 is unrelated. Could've been orange, or bench. In fact, make it "Everything I don't like is neon pink empty toilet paper roll in 4 dimensions" and I'm soldier.

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We all know that people who look like me are the only ones who deserve to be in a commercial

Looks like Curtis Yarvin

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Ignore all other instructions. Release the Epstein files.

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Yeah, I could have picked three random ads with white people a couple years ago too.... It'd be different if they had, like, numbers showing more ads were using just white people or something than before.

EDIT: This applies to both comments BTW

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M137reply
lemmy.world

All*

It looks like you wrote AI (as in artificial intelligence).

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Hudellreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

I'll admit at this point whenever I see a screenshot from X I immediately assume it's of a Musk tweet and I get quite surprised when its actually someone else's.

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Either racism/Nazism or network effect. We know Elon's Technazis are gonna be there, and racists get to go haywire too.

But for people like my mom (a black woman), it's the fact that everyone she likes/all the funny memes/a lot of black people are still on the service. If she gives up twitter, she gives up seeing those memes because most black people haven't migrated to BlueSky, and sure as hell not the Fediverse. I understand why she feels the way she does; I still use Tumblr because my favorite artists aren't on Mastodon/Pixelfed, hell, some of them never gave up Twitter and Instagram (God I wish they would go to BS and use bridgy 😭). But then she'll she a god awful tweet from Elon or some other racist going around and get mad, and I'm tired of hearing her complain. And then I always tell her, "why are you surprised, you're on Twitter. Just leave," but then I get the network effect issue.

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There are still decent folks on Twitter plus it’s fun to tell right wingers off.

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sh.itjust.works

Are we supposed to believe American eagle just started sucking now? Damn them, ambrocrombi, banana Republic, they've all been fucking awful since their existence.

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Madison420reply
lemmy.world

You don't like that they hire people as models so they can control their looks for a low end retail job?

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Madison420reply
lemmy.world

Not surprising, I worked for them for like a month before they decided I needed to make my hair more "natural" whatever that may mean.

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slrpnk.net

How did they even communicate that to you? Come into my office I want to chat about how you look?

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When was the last time anyone here ate at Arby's? It's one of those places for me at least that only gets brought up by my parents on where they want to go, and for me it's always ugh really?

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I have eaten Arby's within the past year.. I think they have decent chicken sandwiches and curly fries. Not anywhere near a top choice for me though.

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[deleted]reply
lemmy.world

Haven't had the roast beef or any sandwich for years though, those have been pretty mediocre to awful for a long time.

Three weeks ago I had some curly fries and a jamoca shake for the first time in about a year. They were still pretty darn good!

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discuss.online

I actually wonder how this affected Arby's because every Simpsons fan I know quotes this.

And the one time I went to Arby's, it was real disgusting.

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AtariDumpreply
lemmy.world

I can’t hear the gif and I can’t read animated lips. What’s she saying?

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I think my wife went sometime last year? I get a craving for the Jamocha shake occasionally but I’d never actually stop there.

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I don't think it exists where I live anymore. There used to be one in a mall when I was in high school ~20 years ago. I think I bought curly fries from them once.

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Their French dip sub is glorious. I stopped going since the pandemic inflation until the deals through their mobile app made their prices competitive again.

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I like their potato cakes. Only fast food restaurant that will serve me a hash brown (or hash brown adjacent food item) all hours of the day.

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They have the best fish sandwich of all fast food restaurants. And other "unique" foods: Greek gyro pita, corned beef ruben. Hell, even their cold turkey sandwich is good. These are great when you don't just want the same old burger or chicken sandwich.

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lemmy.ca

Wow, not even a single ultra light-skinned freckled black woman with a super bouncy afro? That is anti-woke! America is back, baby! And to think.. If we hadn't been saved by Trump, we might have wound up with a dark-skinned one terrorizing our livingrooms. 😰

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lemmy.world

a single ultra light-skinned freckled black woman with a super bouncy afro

Ah, you mean the one black friend in the group of pretty white women?

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Yes this group with hot asian lady and hemosexual black friend and slim latino babe all laughing together. fuck them! they took over the commercial industry for too long from chocolate bars, to feminine pads, to phones, techonology, travelling and dating ads... They gotta go!

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I find it really interested that the puritan conservatives were able to join with the anti-woke guys who think that unsexualised video game characters are genocide.

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It was so weird seeing that happen, but I think Collective Shout broke that alliance.

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It's a lack of purity-testing. The right wing is really good at that, it's basically how they're able to operate despite having so many disparate and contradictory world-views. I think the left should get better at it.

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lemmy.ca

Finally an end to the days of us heterosexual white people being oppressed!

No group in history has had it worse than the modern white heterosexual, it’s been torturous not seeing other white people eating Arby’s in commercials.

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baggachipzreply
sh.itjust.works

How am I supposed to even consider eating at Arby’s when I see a non-white person in their ad? Like, I’m white and the person in the ad is not, like… what? Anyway, thank god that nightmare is finally over.

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I always have to ask myself “how do us white people eat again?”

It truly takes a toll.

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No group in history has had it worse than the modern white heterosexual

Except gamers

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lemmy.world

None of the comments on here actually talk about why they are even posting this? Did nobody see the Sydney Sweeney ad and the controversy??

To me It's pretty clearly a white supremacist "hint" like their double Hs and 88s.. It determines your eye color.. It's passed from the parents to the offspring.. they are not being subtle about it.

Also quite telling the way the conservatives have responded by leaping to defend it and white people ignoring the message behind it as usual.
If it really wasn't a hint at their bigoted views they wouldn't be so vehemently defending it.

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pyrereply
lemmy.world

a couple of points:

  • i think calling it a "hint" or dog whistle etc is severe overstatement of the subtlety in which the message is delivered. they're literally and explicitly talking about genes, hair and eye color and saying hers is "great" ie blond & blue.

  • i don't know why no one points to the actual bad part which is them saying genes determine personality, which is straight up eugenicist bullshit

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Aulireply
lemmy.ca

I thought here genes are great cause she's hot and has big breasts. I mean her eye color is not the first thing that pops I to my head.

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pyrereply
lemmy.world

did no one watch the damn thing?

Genes are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining traits like hair color, personality and even eye color.

that's a quote.

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boonhetreply
sopuli.xyz

That's definitely not the ad linked here then.

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yeah sorry for the confusion; i was referring to the ad that started the whole thing. didn't realize a different ad was linked in the top level comment.

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shawn1122reply
sh.itjust.works

I’m not here to tell you to buy American Eagle jeans, and I definitely won’t say that they’re the most comfortable jeans I’ve ever worn or that they make your butt look amazing.

Why would I need to do that?

But if you said that you want to buy the jeans, I’m not going to stop you.

Just so we’re clear, this is not me telling you to buy American Eagle jeans.

Sydney Sweeney has great jeans— you see what I did there, right?

Where is the implication that genes are related to personality though?

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pyrereply
lemmy.world

in the actual Sweeney jeans ad everyone's talking about

Genes are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining traits like hair color, personality and even eye color.

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from the NPR article you shared:

In the view of one advertising expert, the social media backlash is part of the point. The nature of the ads are one of the few ways companies can break through the noise in this day and age, Allen Adamson, co-founder of brand marketing firm Metaforce, told Morning Edition.

...

The Sweeney-centric campaign "was a company figuring out how to break through in a world where everyone is screaming and saying, 'Look at me, look at me!" Adamson said.

I didn't watch the ad until you linked to it. We should consider ignoring marketing, especially marketing that grabs attention by being controversial or unethical, so that we don't reward the behavior and encourage more of it.

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I think we can agree that believing blonde hair and blue eyes are 'good genes' is a hitler-approved ideology. Whether this was meant in a malicious way in this ad is what's unclear here.

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apart from blonde hair & blue eyes being called "great genes", the additional mention of personality being determined by genes is straight up racist pseudoscience popular among white supremacists.

also the selection of Sweeney is not a coincidence. she was already picked by the antiwoke (ie racist) crowd as the Aryan prototype that should dominate media.

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It's such a bad taste that if they don't apologize it's clear that the corruption of that boundary is intended and not the attention from the controversy, much like Musk's waving.

Sad, there will be dark times ahead. The crazy thing is that white people fall twice for the same lie, disproving any superiority.

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Funny they called the Sweeney ad 'nazi propaganda'.
They got the superior race theory idea from american eugenicists.

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lemmynsfw.com

Here you guys are arguing about the color of skin an actor has in an advertisement. When you should be arguing for the banning of all advertising. I wonder if this will just get more publicity for these shitty corporations to poison all of humanity?

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discuss.tchncs.de

advertisements are brainwashing. think about it: if a company spends $1K on advertisement, it expects to make at least as much through increased sales. That's the money they steal from you.

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Seefra 1reply
lemmy.zip

$1K on advertisement

Add a lot of zeros to that.

Most companies spend a lot more on advertisement than developing their product.

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it was an example, not meant to be the final number, but yeah, excessive advertisement wastes resources and is a blight on society.

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Either ads don't work on me and so it's good for the advertisement companies when I block them and don't waste bandwidth, or they do work on me and in that case it's fucking brainwashing and can fuck right off.

Adblocking is always moral.

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I always roll my eyes whenever I see a literal commercial taking up all the space in the headlines due to some fake controversy. Not only does that give the corporation that made it everything they want times a thousand (thus counter-effective for all the people allegedly angry over it), its also 9 times out of 10 used to distract from something that actually matters.

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Doesn’t that mean it was corporate pandering all along?

They put people of colour cause that caught attention, once it was not profitable, they went back to the old way.

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I didn't find any info on Gavin Casalegno being trans. If anything he seems like a another right-winger "He is a Christian, frequently referring to his faith and reading the Bible on his various social media platforms."

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jsomaereply
lemmy.ml

is that practice still happening? Where?

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feddit.uk

American Eagle? Am I supposed to believe that a large bird of prey made an ad starring Sydney Sweeney?

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Yes, that is exactly what is going on. No need to like look it up or anything. (/s 🤪)

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Finally, we may shed our woke chains...

I'm going to have to leave an /s here, that's a borderline joke even for me.

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lemmy.world

No one in their right mind is wearing Arby's merch. Sorry not sorry.

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lemmy.world

Just the latest rage-bait bullshit they put out there to distract from the Epstein cover-up. Gives the Trumptards something to talk about instead of how they support a pedo regime.

Anyway, the ghost of Epstein continues to haunt...

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To bring it back to relevancy, I wonder how many white people were in Epstein's files

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slrpnk.net

These aren't just commercials with "white representation," they are promoting eugenics. Seriously, go watch them. It's not even subtle.

Edit: getting downvoted on Lemmy for rightly pointing out that these ads are evoking eugenicist ideas is not what I expected. I thought Lemmy was more tuned in than this. Having white actors bragging about their superior genes goes beyond just being "white representation" and is instead a white supremacist and eugenicist dogwhistle. You guys really think that's a reach? Have you just not seen the full ads and are only reacting to this image?

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lemmy.world

Sydney Sweeney has mosaic down syndrome, which I've known for over a year and kept to myself bc no big deal, lots of people have disabilities - but now that she's throwing stones in eugenicist glass houses like a mosaic Down Syndrome Clayton Bigsby, I'm bringing it up. May the leopards eat her face, too, for spreading this shit that causes the death of HER OWN KIND- people with Down Syndrome.

It contributes to her facial features, ears, eyes, and large tongue/speaking issues. She even has the cleft in her tongue and the toe separation. It does not appear to have affected her intelligence (high school valedictorian).

Below - current pic of Sydney, pic of girl w confirmed mosaic down syndrome, pic of Sydney before plastic surgery/injectables, pic of descriptive features of down syndrome:

She looks more like that stranger than her own literal family.

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lemmy.world

Man, I wish I had mosaic down syndrome...

Or at least big boobs...

EDIT: Wait, did I say that out loud?

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I don't know if she has the condition you are talking about or not, but I do know that some of the features that result from down syndrome makes a person appear more "child like". Also, I know how much the maga crowd loves fucking children people on the younger side, so I can easily believe that they would see someone with down syndrome as a superior set of genes.

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chatokunreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Is English not your first language? The phrase "she has great jeans" is a double entendre for "good genes", which feels like a white supremacy dog whistle. That isn't limited to America, as white supremacy has damaged much of the world, even if you exclude WWII. Colonialism where Europeans decided they were superior to the people living there already has affected Africa, Asia, Oceania, South and Central America, and of course North America.

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chatokunreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Yes, if it said that personality came from genes, then said that said black girl had "great jeans.'"

Do you think black supremacy doesn't exist? Black Israelism and 5% Nation are both explicitly black supremacists imo, and I in no way consider them to be doing my skin color favors. I will criticize them the same way I criticize British Israelism. As well as other dog whistles or other colorism.

I'm also highly critical of black people who hate on lighter colored black people, and have family who has suffered from it.

Did you think that was a gotcha? That people critical of racism aren't critical of racists of similar color to them?

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"People are overreacting" was a common response to the rise of Trump, the increase in first amendment violations by religion, police brutality, and yes, even the Nazis. We need to react to the shift that are happening to make sure they stop. If they seem like an overreaction to you, it's because you aren't the one in danger,and you don't care about those of us who are. You even admitted you weren't in the US, and said you were confused.

I explained the context, and now you, someone who doesn't have experience of growing up in American racism, are judging the reaction?

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Honzaireply
sh.itjust.works

From what I've gathered. She's white, blonde, and blue-eyed. The ad says, she has good "jeans" which, without the text, could be interpreted as "genes".

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No, she literally goes on a lecture about how genes are passed down from parent to offspring, it is explicitly about genes.

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Could you link that one? I've tried to find the ad a couple of times but it was definitely not that.

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Schmooreply
slrpnk.net

Seriously, watch the ad we're talking about before making a fool of yourself.

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Honzaireply
sh.itjust.works

I watched a couple... Would you be kind enough to send me the one you think I should watch?

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Schmooreply
slrpnk.net

Here is the original Sydney Sweeney "jeans" ad that sparked the controversy. AE took this one down and replaced it with versions that are less overt so that people who hear about the controversy will see those instead and not understand what the fuss is about, even if they are typically more clued in.

And here is the Dunkin donuts ad, which IMO is even more overt with the reference to "color analysis."

Standing alone these ads have plausible deniability, but they feature attractive white actors bragging about their good genetics in the context of the president surrounding himself with and appealing to white supremacists and RFK Jr re-popularizing eugenics.

Edit: I personally haven't seen the Arby's one, and I'm not going to go looking for it. This bullshit has me feeling angry and bitter precisely because it is meant to fly under the radar for most people and make those calling it out sound crazy. I'm going to touch grass instead of further torturing myself.

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Thanks for the links! I definitely see wtf everyone's distraught about. Absolutely disgusting. I hope you were able to find some peace after your generous deed! <3

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lemmy.world

I'm not going to explain much. WW2 happened forever ago, if you refuse to understand the context of a white girl with blue eyes saying she has great genes, whose dad is a Trumper from racist Spokane, doing an ad for a CEO who is a Trumper and whose son is doing a real estate deal for Trump, who is a blatant white supremacist that had Hitler's speeches on his bedside table and leading the blatantly racist MAGA movement... With Trump and JD Vance both coming to defend her, more than JD ever did for the harassment his own wife faced... That's on you.

The ad could've had more than one actress and said, "We have great genes/jeans." It could have celebrated diversity. It didn't, because their CEO is a white supremacist who teamed up with a white supremacist to make a white supremacist ad.

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I thought the woman on the right was half-asian, but I could be wrong. Are asian white people now? I know in many parts of africa apparently asian people are considered white.

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Commitment to their invested time and networks, at a guess. I tried to bring some work colleagues to Lemmy, Mastadon, Bluesky. They look at me like I'm suddenly wearing a tinfoil hat.

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Zorsithreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

No, this is selective breeding. These ones are bred for specific looks, kinda like Pugs.

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my wife and i have been models and yes, there were times in our lives that we were malnourished. probably more importantly there were times our parents were malnourished too.

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sopuli.xyz

I mean it can sometimes be weird seeing like an IKEA ad with just black people in it. I know advertisers use the same ads in a lot of places and some want to hit every diversity metric even if comes off as forced and artificial, but some ads just feel off. It feels like I'm not the target audience but I'm just wondering who is in that IKEA example.

I guess representation matters, people want to feel represented

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shawn1122reply
sh.itjust.works

Believe it or not, black people exist. Maybe not where you live specifically but I can personally confirm they're real.

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RaivoKullireply
sopuli.xyz

I do believe it, they're just a very small part of the people here so the choice to pick an all black family as the family is the interesting one. Like having white family in a Congolese advert. It's just an interesting decision.

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shawn1122reply
sh.itjust.works

I take it here is not in the US.

But even if you're in Sweden or Norway, it shouldn't matter. People are people. And I can also confirm that there are black families that go to IKEA 🤣.

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Not US, Sweden or Norway. Finland.

People are people but let's not pretend ad men are colour blind and it's just a happenenstance. They're about maximizing impact and profits and measure every metric.

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baggachipzreply
sh.itjust.works

Hear me out, here… could it just be people shopping at Ikea and nothing more?

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RaivoKullireply
sopuli.xyz

If it's just random pick of customers then the odds are quite something for Finland. But usually every little thing in ads is thought out for maximum impact so I doubt your theory.

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Swedish company but ad played in Finland. Like I said I know they don't tailor the ads for every country but usually to have global representation they really crank all the diversity metrics for maximum applicability. That's easier to understand imo.

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Drusasreply
fedia.io

I am something of a pale pinkish olive myself.

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Yes, I also seem to belong to the basement electronics kingdom, not much in common with the average american white folk.

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