'Resident Alien' Canceled Ahead of Season 4 Finale
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Son of a bitch.
This is some bullshit.
I'm a leaf on the wind, watch as I soar.
That’s three more seasons than I thought it would get. I’m sure it’s a fine show, but SyFy is on its last legs.
People have been saying that since the '00s.
They've been right. I'm surprised there's any scifi on the channel at all now. It's been primary wrestling for years
They don't have a lot going on right at the moment, but The Expanse was the best sci-fi show in decades, so maybe you're painting with a brush that's just a tad too big.
They canceled the expanse and Bezos bought it because he liked it and wanted to see the end.
BSG was also another amazing show.
...that aired 21 years ago.
Noooooooo it was like 5 years tops
But for being on their last leg for almost 25 years (of the channel's 32 year life) they sure are still surviving. Whether you agree with their programming or not they are still here.
I don't really agree with this argument. TLC, MTV, VH1, History, Discovery, Animal Planet, etc are all still there despite being pretty much 100% reality TV these days. Most cable channels cycle between showing the same garbage TV and only still exist so that cable companies can brag about having 1000 channels even though they all show the same stuff and have a historically low subscriber count. They're zombie channels.
I said it when they took away MST3K. I was wrong but at least I have it somewhere else, m8y.
It's all right. I fell off it after one too many comedy "animal accidentally gets killed" scenes for me, which hurt what was otherwise a fun, feel-good sitcom. Tudyk is excellent as always and the supporting cast of small-town weirdos are mostly likeable. It's not for me but I can understand people loving it.
Damnit! This was such a good show.
Tv producers have to get off to making people disappointed
Too many people are starting to.enjoy the show? NOW we take it off air.
Syfy must just have the worst sales team of all time.
This show just became available to stream legally in Canada.
Eureka and Waterhouse 13 are only available to buy from Apple, no streaming.
Battlestar Galactica also not available to stream in Canada and hasn't been for a long ass time.
Like, what are they even doing? This is free money they are just leaving on the table for no decernable reason.
Syfy headquarters: Yeah but that's canadian dollars, it's not real money, right ?
bummer, it is such a great vehicle for Alan Tudyk shenanigans. in the last few episodes it felt like the various storylines were nearing a conclusion anyway, i just hope it doesn’t end on a major cliffhanger.
Damn, the only thing I really enjoy other than wrestling on SyFy/USA Network.
In the words of Harry, This is some Bullshit.
Of course, why make a good show when you can churn out more slop?
Didn't realize Season 4 had dropped. Know what I'm doing this weekend.
They made more than 1 season? Damn! I missed the boat on that one. I loved it and wished there was more of it…
Kind of annoying when a service that so often puts “new episodes” banners on things just slips it mannerless into your recommends like it was a rewatch. And you only find out once it’s been cancelled.
If you stopped at the end of season 1, you stopped at a good time. It's not great beyond that.
I have on good authority that Jellyfin does not do this
That's that zombie game right
No no no, you're thinking of Silent Rise. This one's about how you rebuild your grandfather's run down farm in a small town.
I watched the first episode, thought: "they really aren't subtle about this being about autism huh", then checked some comments online to see it was actually not meant to be that at all.
Só I guess... props to the author for making the most relatable character I've ever seen completely on accident.
The show isnt that great, I enjoyed it but its a 7/10 and has gotten worse in some ways every season, while introducing some cool things, the characters feel stagnant and like they hate the audience idk how to describe it, idk every episode I feel less and less like the target audience so I stopped watching it while it aired and discussing it
Ugh. I haven't even started watching season 4 yet. So much cancellation.
Be prepared for quite a shock as they've either drastically cut the makeup department or half the cast got major plastic surgery/filler between S03 and S04. I've been pretty disappointed with the story this season as well as it seems a bit aimless.
Ugh. I want to finish what remains, but this is disappointing to hear.
What's it take for executives to be willing to finish out a show properly? Sheesh
I watched the first 3 seasons. It was ok, though the writing / direction of the show often felt disjointed to me, I'm not too surprised it was cancelled. Disjointed as in it'd try and do more adult type bits / to be more serious at times, but then it also had a "Mork" like comedy relief thing with the alien protagonist, doing the stupid sounding pronunciations and so on.
They also tended to pander pretty heavily to topics that are not popular in the states at present, and which are seeing increased pushback in other countries too. Like the muslim girl kid character, who was basically portrayed as a super intelligent loudly outspoken and independent feminist, who had a character foil of an utterly stupid, incompetent cis white boy kid. Or with the adult characters, where almost every cis white character was a fuck up. Town whore was white, town drunk girl was white, trailer park deadbeat dad guy was white, evil assassin doctor was white as was the corrupt doctor he killed -- only remotely positive cis white guy would've been the mayor I think, but he was shown to be basically a sub to his wife (which is why people were so shocked that it was implied he was the dom in the bedroom, it was totally out of step with his normal on-screen persona). The town sheriff was a comic relief black guy, but even he was shown to be incompetent compared to his over-weight white female deputy, and compared to the Indian sheriff from one town over who was "dating down" to be with a "lovable moron". The First Nations people were all portrayed positively / as competent -- the older dad cafe owner / elder who suddenly became a rock star in his old age, the competent town Nurse female lead, the reserve being the 'safe haven', the "good boyfriend/man" that the town drunk pines after is a FN guy, etc.
With that sort of backdrop, and the political climate in the states these days, it's really not too surprising....
So you think the show should have portrayed white men as superior to minorities? Or you think there's not enough representation for white men? Or you think every. single. show should be for white men? Do you have crap opinions on Dark Winds as well?
Haven't seen dark winds, so I can't really comment on that one.
All I was pointing out is that the gender/racial depictions on the show are fairly clearly politically charged in today's climate. A more even representation would've had some competent men on the show, may've had some more nuance to the representation of minorities too. Instead you have whole episodes dedicated to things like "the women of the town rising up for fair pay" in very heavy-handed virtue signalling style.
The writing got progressively more and more entrenched in that sort of stuff, as the series went on. I'm sorry if you feel bad that I'm pointing it out, and noting that the cancellation wasn't really all that surprising to me?
Not catering exclusively to white men isn't virtue signaling. Stories of minorities having to fight for rights isn't virtue signaling, it's something that is very very relevant these days as well as historically. These are stories that people want to see and that are relevant to them. I'm sorry you feel if something's not marketed to white men that it's not surprising it failed. I'm sorry you don't feel like those are stories worth telling. Go watch something else that doesn't challenge what you think deserves to be told. Not Dark Winds. The cast has a lot of Native Americans and acknowledges systemic racism and makes jokes about how white people have been jerks to them. You'd hate it.
No one is questioning my characterization of the one dimensional characters in the show. I've never said the show had to cater to white men exclusively, I merely pointed out that the show had a depiction of racial / gender roles that was very politically charged, and anti-cis/white people, and men in particular. Seriously, the only positive male figures in that show were FN men, and there were no examples of negative figures that were FN. The only minority woman that was presented in a slightly negative way, was the asian nurse -- who was still competent at her job, even if she was portrayed as greedy and self-centered. The non-FN men didn't even get to be competent, they got to be incompetent, stupid, and/or villains.
Like if you wanted to add some depth / nuance to those characters, without being so one sided? Have the resentment that you're expressing here, made manifest in the FN people in the show. There's a very brief exchange at one point early on in the series, where I think Harry shows up at the res unescorted, and the FN people there basically stonewall / ignore him. It's glossed over in like 10 seconds, and then they act like it's all good. Asta's abandoning of her daughter with a healthy and supportive home life is a story element that's really forced. Have Asta's backstory altered so that it's not some deadbeat white guy trailer trash that she hooked up with as a kid -- have it be that she had a regular teenage cis white guy as a partner, one who could've just moved out of town. You could've had him die in an accident off screen, and potentially made the doctor who came back to replace Harry (briefly, before getting sent to Area 51 to get ass raped by the govt or whatnot) be the guys older brother, but make him less of a condescending fop. Asta realising who he was later on, especially given how nonchalantly she and the town shrug off his disappearance, and what comes out about how his life went afterwards, would add depth -- like those two kids basically had that guy's life ruined as an afterthought, with pretty well zero remorse or curiosity from ppl in town -- and the audience is encouraged to empathize/forgive the evil chick in the govt that did it, because she had some daddy issues that she wanted to time travel to fix. You could justify Asta giving her daughter up because she felt strongly that her family on the res wouldn't accept a white guy / baby (you don't even need to make it an explicit rejection, just one she internalised / acted on based on the lowkey resentment towards white people). Keep a passive aggressive dialogue structure between the FN people and the white people that Asta brings on to the res -- cause generally, in reality, they're tolerated but not accepted, because of all that history/resentment (that we're seeing even in this generally neutral commentary on the show). Have that resentment be more explicit in any dialogue with older FN. Keep Asta's grandad as a more neutral positive progressive figure who's just a hard workin guy, who values his culture/traditions, who loves his daughter and accepts her no matter what, even if some in the community still harbour all this resentment. He could even have more complex relations with the band, if he'd been made aware of the reasons for Asta giving up her daughter after the fact -- a backstory component where he'd realised the constant simmering racism on the res had hurt his daughter and cost him a direct relationship with his grand-daughter, and while he recognised/accepted the anger felt he had to move past it by opening the diner outside the res and integrating more with the town. He could basically have a vested interest at that point, for being a role model for the youth on the res, putting him respectfully / politely at odds with the more racist older folks on the res. His relationship with Harry could've been far different too, if he'd first viewed him as a potential 'new' white-boy suitor that his daughter was interested in -- that'd even provide comic opportunities, as he'd be completely thrown by Harry acting in an alien fashion / unpredictable fashion compared to what he expects of a white guy, causing him to question his own preconceptions even further, at least until he finds out the truth. From what I recall, the way they handled this stuff in the show, it really didn't make sense why Asta would've given up her daughter - and it especially didn't make sense given how they portray all the people in the community / family around her as being ultra/unequivocally supportive. It isn't all light in reality, for an adult-theme oriented drama you need to have some shades of dark to make it more interesting / engaging and insightful.
For the super smart outspoken muslim girl, you've literally got stories in the news frequently about muslim women being killed by their families for having tiktok on their phones and/or being too western minded. The show's got her out running around in the middle of the night with a young boy with no supervision, while still pretending like she's a devout muslim girl. Dig into that more. Lots of muslim women present a devout/submissive image to their parents, but at school they are far more liberal / westernized -- I'm sure I'm not alone in having known girls in HS who would change out of their religious garb for class, not because they'd get bullied or anythin, but because they wanted to be free to express themselves. Women in Iran, before the religious dictatorship took over, happily dressed in western styles while still following the general tenants of the faith / thinking of themselves as muslim. There's lots of talk in the media about how school shouldn't narc on kids for things like pronouns, but the religious stuff is also part of that conversation -- given that the boy she's running around with, is also the son of a teacher (or was she the principle? I don't remember atm, sorta moot) at the school, you could've played with that theme a bunch. Even if the parents may be accepting if she were to discuss it with them directly, she could still have inner turmoil/conflicts about it all. Heck, you could've even pulled a story practically directly out of the news and worked it in for "why she came back" to town after goin off to a prestigious school -- her mother could've been mis-appropriating a FN identity to get scholarships/funding to go to that program, she could've been exposed, and the kids scholarships cancelled as a result. She could've ended up with more interesting internal conflicts/character, by being conflicted by both the unethical behaviour of her parent towards FN, but also at being denied the opportunity just because she wasn't the 'right' minority race. Presenting that kid the way they did in the show, is a disservice to the struggles of many muslim women -- and there's likely a lot more material there that could be presented in far more interesting ways, even in a weird pseudo-comedy such as this show (I still say the premise/direction and overall flow of the show was disjointed/weird).
I don't have a problem with shows catering to demographics I don't associate with directly. Like I said, I did watch 3 seasons of this thing, even though I recognised early on what it was,. But the writing was one dimensional and lazy, and it got worse and worse as the seasons went on. I'm all for stories that are FN centric, but those stories deserve better writing and presentation than what this show was offering up.
They did sahar terribly as an indian kid who grew up with indian and muslim kids, they always do us dirty, she is an active annoyance who tends to be wrong, itd be one thing if she was a know it all whos right, but shes usually wrong and they gloss over it. Also max is nice to her and shes actively an ashole to her friends. Also we are rarely up our ass religious as kids, you'll always hear my parents told me to, more realistically her parent comes to class explains her culture not her doing it herself. When we did it ourselves we were wrong af looking back (but they wont showcase that in a show) somehow brown kids can never be wrong, but are always wrong, insufferable knowitalls, shes a great actor btw!! Fantastic at playing the shitty role they gave her.
I hate when ppl say its accurate and its someone who does not share the lived experience lol
I will never have representation (bend it like beckham was pretty decent actually), instead mindy kaling type white washing or extremists in the other direction
So you think it would be better for stories about Muslims to focus on the negative aspects of their religion? And it would have been better for FN people to be portrayed as racist cheats? I'm not sure if you realize how gross you're being or if it's on purpose, but never criticize other people's writing ever again.
It's more realistic and engaging, and it isn't 'wrong' to "speak the truth" about what goes on in those communities, or within those minority groups. I also made sure to highlight that you'd want to have variance in the characters to provide a broader context, with an eye to making it clearer to viewers that these demographic groups are not a uniform monolith, and that each person should be viewed as an individual. Putting out a show where all the white people are negatively type-cast, where all men who aren't FN are type-cast as incompetent morons, and where FN are all type-cast positively, is bad writing. Just like how back in the 1950s or whatever, when all women were type-cast negatively and all FN were type-cast negatively, it was bad writing. If you think that an adult audience is too stupid to understand that this shit is bad content, I need do little more than point to the shows cancellation as proof that it had gone to crap and detached from its audience -- if the writing was good, it would've/could've had more seasons. The production quality overall was decent.
To pretend there's no racism in FN communities is absurd, as the evidence is pretty blatant. And as for your comment, I didn't say anything about FN people as cheats, that's your bias again showing through. That sort of bias -- you thinking that all critics of FN must think FN are cheats, a potentially 'internalised' and imagined victimhood that taints your interactions with others -- ought to be represented on screen, with the negative repercussions put on display for discussion. The authenticity, or the relative authenticity of the characters matters.
As for muslims, why shouldn't the moderate muslim have a voice? Why shouldn't we tell the stories of what many of us have seen with our own eyes, and what many people living in western countries have gone through themselves? Why shouldn't we expect an adult show to tackle adult themes, rather than treat their audience like a bunch of immature, cattle-brained morons who can't understand nuance?
If you always had to portray characters/cultures in a positive light, without digging in to the conflicts and inner turmoils of individuals, pretty well every good show in the past two or three decades would be 'bad'. And I'm being very conservative with that time frame. Imagine Shakespeare, without any social commentary -- like Othello, where you can't broach the racial components of it. It would be utter drivel without that nuance. Good art / fiction tackles these sorts of concepts directly, messily, and puts it out there as authentically as possible for the audience to engage with. I encourage you to expand your perspective.
Oh, you were talking about somebody misusing a FN identity they didn't have. My mistake. It's still a bad story idea.
You talk about "speaking the truth" about how you view minorities while bemoaning that white men, a group that has never ever done anything bad (/s), are portrayed negatively. If you don't realize it, let me inform you that sort of thing comes off as pretty racist. Defending it by saying it's more realistic or better writing in a show with talking octopuses doesn't change that. If you do realize it, you're an awful person.
I've reached the end of my patience for that particular type of bs with you and will be blocking you. Do better.