As far as I know this is nothing new. They did the same at McDee's back when I worked there in the 80's. Bookstores used to do it too. When a book was unsold we tore the cover to send it back to the publisher and destroyed the rest of the book. Only capitalism at work.
It's a passable chicken sandwich but people who have never tried popeyes will sit in line for 45 minutes for it and that's just crazy. You'd think they put cocaine in the batter the way you people talk about it. CFA ruins local traffic and I honestly cannot understand why it's so popular.
Ok..? Are you one of the “I’m a good person because I like Popeyes” people? Or one of the “I like to say all fast food tastes bad and that makes me a good person” people?
Im saying chicken fillet's chicken is worse than other fast food places because it doesnt do anything special, its main flavor is salt, this has nothing to do with me being a good person.
But also I liked Church's when I did have fast food.
Wtf is this meme I keep seeing? Ooh yeah they're evil but I'm a mindless sense-driven beast of a consumer who is powerless to sway their id in a more fruitful direction
no fast food is that good, if you think so then either you have one in a million taste buds (derogative) or you've basically never eaten any other food
Jesus Christ. I prepare 99% of my food at home, from scratch. I’m a very good cook. I know what good food is.
I can also acknowledge that the overload of salt, fat and sugar provided by Chick-fil-A nuggies and Mac and cheese is objectively tasty, as it has been engineered to hit the tastebuds in a way humans have evolved to experience and go “holy shit, I need more of THAT.”
I’m certain I eat less fast food than everyone in this comment thread up on their high horse about how they don’t think CFA tastes good, and that somehow makes them a moral human, especially the ones crowing about how Popeyes is better(?).
Also: track sale and production on a spreadsheet to optimize this amount. Easy stuff for a restaurant manager. No need to be this wasteful in the first place.
Chick fil a probably has optimized all of that. Cookies are just something they can't be 100% sure on and whip up in an instant.
Those fuckers make like twice what a McDonald's make a day. And we know McDonald's has optimized everything down to how to get prison labor if they can.
Shouldn't the number of cookies to make be a management decision, or do I misunderstand the word "management"? Make a decision, Manager, and if it's too low you run out early and lose a few sales, and if it's too high you let the employees take the leftover cookies home and maybe you get some employee appreciation. Either way, that responsiblility should be yours. More responsibility is one of the reasons you get paid more.
Yeah, if he has no control over how many cookies employees make, he's clearly a shitty manager. Plus I might just make extra cookies to throw away to cut into their bottom line and spite them.
They did this at the supermarket I worked at as a teenager.
Fuck that noise though, no one was watching me work so I'd just eat some pastries I was supposed to be throwing away. Didn't take anything home, but you better believe I'm not going to just throw it all away without eating something!
Their mentality was "if you want it enough, pay for it, otherwise you don't really want it."
Mother fucker it's going in the garbage that's the only reason I'd "want" it... I don't "need" to buy it, but I don't want it go to waste.
It's easy to prevent this by tracking waste. This location is just dumb if they have this much of a surplus. Their manager is bad and doesn't understand how to adjust prep amounts. If they say to prep this many then how would an employee prep extra for themselves? Every restaurant I've worked at the manager gives prep amounts.
Same thing happened to me at my high school job at Steak n Shake. Normally, if something was ordered and, for whatever reason, never made it to the customer (server mistake, customer changed their mind, order made wrong, etc.) we would hold it for a time under the heat lamp, and if someone else ordered the same thing, we would offer it to them. If, after some time, no one took it, common procedure was to take it to the break room where it could be snacked on by the staff. It was a very rare occasion that it happened, and none of the managers were concerned about it... until Andy transferred to our store.
Andy was a dick, and was constantly watching for anything that MIGHT be theft and harassed everyone all the time about the purchases they made with their employee discounts (who rang you up, did they ring up everything, did you pay for that, etc.). One day we had someone order a large fry late into their meal, then had to leave in a hurry, paid and left before they got the fries (unclear if they paid for the fries or if they took it off the check, idk). So they sat for like 2 hours under the heat lamp, way longer than we would ever have served them to a customer as they were going dry and stale by this point. I confirmed the situation with the fries and started to take it back to the break room for munching if anyone was so inclined. Andy, who was at the shake station, though, saw me walk toward the back with the fries.
He sprinted to the back and doubled back to cut me off. He asked where I was going with the fries and if I bought them. I said to the break room and no and explained that they got left, were old and stale, etc. He said, "oh, ok. Here, I'll take it." So I handed it to him and without taking his eyes off of me, he dumped the whole thing in the trashcan next to him and tossed the dish on the dishwasher station counter, and said nothing while continuing to stare at me. I said, "okaaaay...." and walked away. Fucking psycho.
Sounds like Andy is missing some core components of his brain. Poor guy probably doesn't know what emotions other than stress, hate, and greed feel like.
Correct. With my several gay coworkers. It was a job. And quite frankly, better than just about any other fast food job. Idk if you can easily work for a "moral" major corporation. Pergaos you can determine some evils to not be as bad as others, but that's purely subjective
I feel like in order to be a radical Christian, I would first need to be a Christian. You weren't hating on Christianity, but you were hating on Christians. You were saying the people weren't following what Christianity preaches. I was just saying that this example was not my experience in the same fast food chain
That's pretty Christian, unlike what is illustrated in this picture. I'm not sure what you're point is--I'm not saying you worked at the exact same CFA resto (Centuky Fried... American-chicken?, anyway, whatever chain) as the person who posted the picture.
Wait, now I'm confused. If you didn't know this was about Chick-fil-a, why'd you make the comment about "radical Christian teachings"? I, and I assume most others that read the comment, understood it to be in reference to the fact CFA is an openly Christian restaurant chain.
I saw some other comments mentioning Christianity. But yeah, giving free food is a Christian thing and runs counter to wasteful business practices. Obviously, many Christians would disagree with this interpretation -- hence radical.
Throwing Christ into the ring is a good way of shaming someone for the shitty behaviour, imo. Low crit rate, but when it lands... 💥
Are you insane? What's next? Are you going to lock all the employees inside the Panera and supply them with weapons and organize a free for all battle royale where the winner gets health insurance?!
One day I went to Chipotle before work, with the plan to buy something to later have for lunch. They had recently raised the prices, but I still got my usual burrito. When we got to the guac station, it was fresh out. "They're making more." Cool! I'll just wait then.
When the fresh guac came out a few minutes later, the worker casually went to throw the burrito they'd already made for me away. I stopped them and asked, "What are you doing?!"
They said, "I'm making you a fresh one."
What?! It wasn't even five minutes. I told them, "Just put the fresh guac into the same burrito. I'm not eating it until my lunch break anyway. Four hours from now."
Thankfully the worker complied, but I was shocked. If that's what they typically do, I can't imagine how much food they needlessly waste on a daily basis. Do people seriously think burritos go bad after sitting under foil for a few minutes? Especially when all the exact same ingredients are kept out and uncovered at the prep station for much longer? I just... I can't understand. I paid $9 for something they would have just thrown away?
If food is that easily disposible to a restaurant, then they have no business raising prices so often. Maybe employees can offer to remake food in a situation like I had, in order to satisfy the pickiest of us. But to train people to automatically do it in every circumstance? You're pretty much driving your own food costs up for no reason. I just can't logic this.
There is even more food lost at the warehouse step.
"Packaging is slightly wrinkly to be put on shelf" is enough at times and losing half the dairy due to no air conditioning is still cheaper than keeping food and employees cool.
Late stage capitalism is kind of broken so y'know, gotta chase the quarterly profit, can't just enjoy success and pay employees more.
Also, the world produces more than enough food for everyone to get their nutritional needs soundly met. The problem is our food distribution system and profit motives if you ask me
Perhaps not you but plenty of Karens would raise all kinds of hell over that. These restaurants cater to the Karens. I was written up once at chain for refusing to refund a women's "cold food". She had ordered a take out order, drove for 45 minuets home before taking a bite and bitching about being given "cold food". This bitch really expected her dinner to be hot after almost an hour drive.
There a lot of stuff tossed for food safety reasons that we'd normally just accept and go.
America is the most litigious country, and I can't fault the bizarre things people now have to do because their legal team doesn't want lawsuit repeats.
It actually makes sense in this case. They weren't remaking it because they thought you'd enjoy a fresh burrito, they were remaking it because the tortilla would have grown cold by that point and would be much more difficult to wrap. Thats the reason they put the tortillas in the press, to heat them up so they can wrap them easier. If it gets cold, it's prone to tear.
I used to work at Chick-fil-A in high school for about 2 years. At first we were able to take ice cream home at the end of the day since it would just be poured down the drain anyways. Same with nuggets and fries. It was so fun and rewarding to have a little extra treat. Corporate said the exact same thing, so now we had to pour the soap cleaner into the ice cream machine before emptying it so no one drinks any. It’s so sad.
There are surplus food donation programs: the EPA provides a guide that explains the legal protections & tax benefits with tools to find recipient organizations.
When even Chick-fil-a runs one such program, the manager has no excuse to be a certified asshole.
The CFA I worked at (granted, a decade ago) was not owned by a certified asshole, and we definitely took home cookies with their blessing. There was a bin of "bad cookies" where they broke and ended up being for whomever. The bin would then be emptied if nobody else wanted them
I just had to do a swap with Domino's because they gave me the wrong pizza. Just watched them throw the pizza in the trash. It pissed me off, they should have let me keep it. Bullshit sick corporations throwing editable food away. This picture pisses me off.
What did they say to convince you to hand it over? I've never heard of a restaurant that demanded the old order back before they'll replace it. They always let you keep the mistake.
The only explanation I can come up with is that the particular Domino's you went to has a serious Karen problem. People making up complaints just to get free food.
Not too uncommon to bring it with you to show them, an instinct to prove it's wrong and you're not lying. Although most places will ask you if you want to keep both, rather than just immediately tossing it.
No they forced me to do a fucking swap. Said had return the wronged pizza which I found strange because Domino's commercial say they will fix order without returning. Fact that they took the wrong pizza and threw it in garbage in front of me pissed me off.
Damn, that's an extra level of weird here. Like... fair enough if you need to confirm you messed up the order and aren't getting scammed, but you don't need to trash the dang thing, for absolutely zero profit.
I feel like the worst case of leaving the pizza with you is free advertising when you share that free bonus pizza.
Well call corporate is not an option. You can text or email. But I called every number they had and they all pushed me online, call the store which I was already at. Or email and text. Couldn't talk to a person. Fucking sucked.
There are services out there that even take rejected food! This is so infuriating! Shame that owner, and shame the capitalistic system that made this all possible!
Sadly, just about every product at retail has a version of this. Mass production produces waste at every stage, including the final product. At the same time, those waste streams have value and need to be managed to avoid hurting the bottom line. Usually it's a practical money-making thing, but I suspect that there's ample room here for spite.
For example, "expired" magazines get the covers ripped off, so they can't get re-purposed somehow. Also, new cars are downright rage-inducing when you learn about the full picture.
We were frequently throwing away the vinyl hardwood flooring packages when I worked at home Depot because customers would tear open the packaging and then we couldnt guarantee it was the full product.
They should be producing baeed on sales anyways. They wouldn't bake extra to keep because you would be reprimanded for baking extra at the start vs wasting food at the end. It takes the human element out of decision making which also, ironically, let's you react more humanely to the system.
Manufactured scarcity. Millions of people right here in America are going without the calories to be healthy. And our government literally just burned millions of tons of USAID ment for overseas. They refused to give it to the fucking tax payers let alone donate it to needy people in Africa. Conservative beliefs is a death cult. (specifically the poor, queer, and minorities death...)
When you're too stupid to work so you manage instead.
The part I'm mad about is that part of his job is to keep track of how many of what they make and throw out. He's literally wasting food because he's too stupid or lazy to do his job.
Every employee gets up to five free cookies as part of their compensation for the day. Employees may choose to take from the surplus if they care about eliminating waste.
in the eighties had a friend who worked fast food. Started with free food on shift and 50% discount anytime. Ended with discount for one meal up to X amount only when working a shift. I think that is my earliest enshitification memory.
They used to get incentives to give food that was past its "sell by" date but was still safe to food banks, but that stopped a few years back.
My local food bank was hit hard. They used to get daily deliveries from HEB Randalls trucks. But when the grocery stopped being able to claim incentives, it was cheaper to just throw the food away.
I always heard that grocery stores dump their "expired" food instead of donating it to avoid the possibility that someone could get sick and sue them. Idk if it's true or not but the whole thing is fucked.
That's one of the reasons they used food banks. They absolved themselves of the liability by transferring it to the food banks, who would then be the ones responsible for disposing of expired food instead of handing it out.
Nah, they just don't wanna do it, then they spread this rumor about the perils of our legal system preventing them. There's a thing called the Good Samaritan Food Donation Act in the US which absolves businesses from liability. But i believe it has to go to a distribution center, not directly to a person, which may require additional effort from the grocer/restaurant.
When I worked in a kitchen at a pizza place in the summer of '88, the restaurant chain's policy was that staff could have any food they wanted, free of charge. They just had to note it in a ledger (I assume so that the restaurant could record it as an expense). You could drink as much soda as you wanted without noting it because it was too cheap to care about.
It always seemed like a perfectly rational policy. It's an easy and cheap way to make your employees think you care about them.
what a lot of managers are utterly incapable of comprehending is that you can just say "hey guys, feel free to eat some food and drink some soda, but don't be asshats about it yeah? free food priviliges can and will be taken away if you misuse them, but we'll give you a warning first"
I worked at a Panera a long time ago on closing shift and we had an agreement with a local food bank who would send over a car to collect bread. Usually the car got filled up and we were allowed to take as much as we could carry of the rest. Only anything leftover after that was thrown away.
Not wanting to incentivise waste is a legit point, but this is the cruelist possible solution to the problem. Which is another thing capitalism is great at incentivising!
This makes me sick. Had the exact opposite experience while working at Honey Baked ham. We were sent home with food almost every day. Even then, on Sundays we would donate bread and meat that was about to go bad to the local church. Was a wholesome experience working there honestly. Hope they still operate that way.
This is not infuriating, idc that a few cookies are being thrown out. People arent starving for some cookies in America. What is actually infuriating is the Trump admin throwing out entire shipments of food that could have provided people with healthy staple foods for a long period.
When I worked at Ruby Tuesday, any time a wrong order was made, or something was sent back for any reason, it would get thrown out. They wouldn't give it to their employees, they wouldn't donate it. This was back in 2007. But I thought it was pretty crappy then. Not sure if they still do this.
I'd love to tell your manager that he works at a Christian establishment and that this constitutes greed, perhaps with elements of sloth. Both are mortal sins. Shall the owners' sky-daddy beliefs turn out to be right, he's in for eternal punishment.
I'm sure it's not the 1st mortal sin they have committed, nor will it be their last. What would Jesus have done? But then Christianity hasn't ever really followed what Jesus preached about.
There should be laws that make this a criminal offense. Send managers like that to jail for a month for this, that might change their opinions slightly
From what I heard from a coworker, moose pheromones are even stinkier? They used em as a prank (they can be ordered for hunting) on a friend but it was so hard to get out I think the car he to be totalled, if I remember the story right
Thinking aloud, what would you think of a "community donation" menu item?
The gist is - say you're a pizza company and create an edible mistake - offer the customer to make a community donation. You add $5 to their order (cost of ingredients) and a paper slip to their order and heck, toss in one slice of the mistake pizza. The slip has a dual purpose - one half is a donation receipt, the other is a 'collect 5 for a free pizza' coupon. The rest of the pizza then is free to distribute (to employees, guests, passersby's on the street - or on a particularly error prone day a local shelter)
The shop management gets costs reimbursed. The employee is out only the time for the second pizza (which they had to do anyway) and the customer gets warm fuzzies and a tax write off for doing the right thing. As a bonus, the free pizza and charity are both great optics.
If the customer declines, the option reverts to the employee (they get the tax receipt, house keeps the coupon), and only if both decline may the pizza be trashed (I mean, management may still opt to 'donate' but give it to only non-employees (still great optics), but even if it gets trashed, it now looks like the customer that's the jerk, not the shop.)
And there's little chance of abuse, I think. If the customer and employee conspire, the employee is effectively just adding to their own workload, the customer spends $25 in donations for a free $14 pizza, and management laughs its way to the bank bragging about how charitable their employees are.
No, if the shop makes a mistake, they fix it as normal. I'm discussing what to do with the pizza that isn't fit to the customer's order.
It could look like this:
"Hey, you gave me black olives! I clearly ordered green olives, like I always do!!"
looks at order: "b. olives"😤🙄
"Oh! I'm so sorry, our mistake! We'll remake it immediately - but it'll take ~20 minutes to bake. While we prepare that, can I interest you in our community donation special?"
"What's that?" 😡
"For $5, we'll donate the black olive pizza to hungry families. For your trouble we'll give you an extra two punches on your "buy 6, get the 7th free" as our way of saying thank you. Also, you'll get a receipt for your taxes! Plus - I know it's not what you ordered, but I can get you a slice of that first pizza while you wait.
*customer does math: 2 punches of 6 = ⅓ off, free pizza is normally $18 that's a $6 value.
"Soo… you're saying I pay $5 now, for ⅓ of a pizza later? And a free slice of pizza? (I can just pick off the olives)"
"Yes, and a receipt for your taxes!"
"Sure!"
Customer: Sucker! $5 for a slice of pizza and $6 off a future pizza? How do they stay in business?
Manager: Sucker! $5 covers the material cost of the food, I'm paying the employee the same amount for their shift either way, and that tax coupon means I can convert waste food into an $18 tax write off
Employee: Sucker! the food bank and I have an arrangement where I can take a pie home for my family. I just got free dinner
Food bank: free pizza! Give away one pie to the nice employee's family, and split the rest among the hungry and volunteers.
When i was a manager at Michael's, I would usually be the one to "scan out" items that went past their sell-by date.
I would always put the expired candy/soda/chips in a box, write "Trash: These items are expired and are NOT to be taken home and enjoyed ;)"
Stick it in the break room in the morning, throw away the empty box about mid-day.
oh gosh i think the imperial cult themed chicken corpo might be bad
you there, reading the replies! do you think there is a possibility that the openly hateful soggy sandwich dump is bad?
nobody can be sure if Hater's Extra Christian Chicken is a bad establishment until we all weigh in
Bad chicken
You can taste the hate :/
As far as I know this is nothing new. They did the same at McDee's back when I worked there in the 80's. Bookstores used to do it too. When a book was unsold we tore the cover to send it back to the publisher and destroyed the rest of the book. Only capitalism at work.
why did your moms name you capitalism
Lol, HECC for short
The what now
in the colonies the chicken corpos have themes
Cajun Chicken
Snake Oil Salesman Chicken
Cartoon Sailor Chicken
Labrador Retriever Chicken
Imperial Cult Chicken
I'm not in on the joke
It isn't a joke my friend that's just how the volk do their fast food chicken
I mean they dress it in bright jokey colors but that's just how they do fast food in the colonies
it isn't weird to them
The problem is, the hateful chicken is actually delicious. It takes a lot of will power to avoid the delicious evil chicken. And the Mac and cheese.
It's a passable chicken sandwich but people who have never tried popeyes will sit in line for 45 minutes for it and that's just crazy. You'd think they put cocaine in the batter the way you people talk about it. CFA ruins local traffic and I honestly cannot understand why it's so popular.
It amazes me and especially seeing it down south. I thought the one thing the south had was knowing what good food was.
It would never even occur to me go go to this place for food. That's like a DC 0 will save.
And since I'm trying to be more vegetarian anyway, I think I'd roll with advantage.
I've had it a few times, it's actually not that good of chicken. I would say it's slightly above KFC.
Nah, homophobic chicken is c tier, they just do a salty marinade.
Ok..? Are you one of the “I’m a good person because I like Popeyes” people? Or one of the “I like to say all fast food tastes bad and that makes me a good person” people?
Im saying chicken fillet's chicken is worse than other fast food places because it doesnt do anything special, its main flavor is salt, this has nothing to do with me being a good person.
But also I liked Church's when I did have fast food.
no it isn't you just have really bad taste and you're generally a weak person
*(edit to make fun of you more) "and the mac and cheese" sorry this is also a bootlicker tell, idk why but it is
Wow. Sounds like your main accomplishment in life is not liking Chick-fil-A. Well done you!
Wow. Sounds like your main accomplishment in life is liking Chick-fil-a. Well don't you!
Wtf is this meme I keep seeing? Ooh yeah they're evil but I'm a mindless sense-driven beast of a consumer who is powerless to sway their id in a more fruitful direction
I had it. Once. Have you had popeyes!!! Heck even churches and I would take a wendys spicy chicken sandwich over thiers.
I’ve had Popeyes a few times but the one here undercooks the chicken. Like, raw chicken, undercooked.
Thats crazy. Only times I have encountered this is with store rotisserie chicken near where the leg meets the thigh or thigh the body.
no fast food is that good, if you think so then either you have one in a million taste buds (derogative) or you've basically never eaten any other food
Jesus Christ. I prepare 99% of my food at home, from scratch. I’m a very good cook. I know what good food is.
I can also acknowledge that the overload of salt, fat and sugar provided by Chick-fil-A nuggies and Mac and cheese is objectively tasty, as it has been engineered to hit the tastebuds in a way humans have evolved to experience and go “holy shit, I need more of THAT.”
I’m certain I eat less fast food than everyone in this comment thread up on their high horse about how they don’t think CFA tastes good, and that somehow makes them a moral human, especially the ones crowing about how Popeyes is better(?).
Elenor agrees with me.
Solution. Have the amount of cookies made everyday set by management, then take the excess home/to the food bank.
Also: track sale and production on a spreadsheet to optimize this amount. Easy stuff for a restaurant manager. No need to be this wasteful in the first place.
Easy stuff for a competent manager
Chick fil a probably has optimized all of that. Cookies are just something they can't be 100% sure on and whip up in an instant.
Those fuckers make like twice what a McDonald's make a day. And we know McDonald's has optimized everything down to how to get prison labor if they can.
every day
It's the difference between "what's up Chuck" and a question about vomit.
Up-chuck is a hyphenate.
Shouldn't the number of cookies to make be a management decision, or do I misunderstand the word "management"? Make a decision, Manager, and if it's too low you run out early and lose a few sales, and if it's too high you let the employees take the leftover cookies home and maybe you get some employee appreciation. Either way, that responsiblility should be yours. More responsibility is one of the reasons you get paid more.
Yeah, if he has no control over how many cookies employees make, he's clearly a shitty manager. Plus I might just make extra cookies to throw away to cut into their bottom line and spite them.
They did this at the supermarket I worked at as a teenager.
Fuck that noise though, no one was watching me work so I'd just eat some pastries I was supposed to be throwing away. Didn't take anything home, but you better believe I'm not going to just throw it all away without eating something!
Their mentality was "if you want it enough, pay for it, otherwise you don't really want it."
Mother fucker it's going in the garbage that's the only reason I'd "want" it... I don't "need" to buy it, but I don't want it go to waste.
Price elasticity of garbage food
It's easy to prevent this by tracking waste. This location is just dumb if they have this much of a surplus. Their manager is bad and doesn't understand how to adjust prep amounts. If they say to prep this many then how would an employee prep extra for themselves? Every restaurant I've worked at the manager gives prep amounts.
Same thing happened to me at my high school job at Steak n Shake. Normally, if something was ordered and, for whatever reason, never made it to the customer (server mistake, customer changed their mind, order made wrong, etc.) we would hold it for a time under the heat lamp, and if someone else ordered the same thing, we would offer it to them. If, after some time, no one took it, common procedure was to take it to the break room where it could be snacked on by the staff. It was a very rare occasion that it happened, and none of the managers were concerned about it... until Andy transferred to our store.
Andy was a dick, and was constantly watching for anything that MIGHT be theft and harassed everyone all the time about the purchases they made with their employee discounts (who rang you up, did they ring up everything, did you pay for that, etc.). One day we had someone order a large fry late into their meal, then had to leave in a hurry, paid and left before they got the fries (unclear if they paid for the fries or if they took it off the check, idk). So they sat for like 2 hours under the heat lamp, way longer than we would ever have served them to a customer as they were going dry and stale by this point. I confirmed the situation with the fries and started to take it back to the break room for munching if anyone was so inclined. Andy, who was at the shake station, though, saw me walk toward the back with the fries.
He sprinted to the back and doubled back to cut me off. He asked where I was going with the fries and if I bought them. I said to the break room and no and explained that they got left, were old and stale, etc. He said, "oh, ok. Here, I'll take it." So I handed it to him and without taking his eyes off of me, he dumped the whole thing in the trashcan next to him and tossed the dish on the dishwasher station counter, and said nothing while continuing to stare at me. I said, "okaaaay...." and walked away. Fucking psycho.
Sounds like Andy is missing some core components of his brain. Poor guy probably doesn't know what emotions other than stress, hate, and greed feel like.
In a sane society this would be illegal.
In America, if you take garbage cookies that is stealing and you will be fired.
a sane society to you is different than a sane society to me
Insanity is not relative. Money and things are more important to you than people. That's insane.
I make money. Money don't make me.
I wish more people lived their life to that adage.
Did you down vote yourself on this comment? Lol
The level of spite in this policy exemplifies the class war we are all in right now.
You know what would keep that from happening? Free food for the employees while at work.
Sounds like one of them radical Christian teachings.
Yeah, Jesus didn't teach these kind of things. Don't feed a man a fish, teach a man to fish.
Definitely don't magic fish and bread out of thin air to feed thousands of people for free. That's socialism.
The Bible literally says not to deny your workers in the field the grain which falls to the ground.
Sorry to rain on the Christian hating parade, but when I worked at CFA over 10 years ago, they did give free food to employees.
Now granted, there are plenty of other things to still parade about. Christians give lots of ammo
10 years ago? You mean back when they were publicly giving money to anti lgtbq+ organizations and bragging about it?
Correct. With my several gay coworkers. It was a job. And quite frankly, better than just about any other fast food job. Idk if you can easily work for a "moral" major corporation. Pergaos you can determine some evils to not be as bad as others, but that's purely subjective
I was doing the the opposite of hating on Christians. You're one of the "radicals" I alluded to.
I feel like in order to be a radical Christian, I would first need to be a Christian. You weren't hating on Christianity, but you were hating on Christians. You were saying the people weren't following what Christianity preaches. I was just saying that this example was not my experience in the same fast food chain
That's pretty Christian, unlike what is illustrated in this picture. I'm not sure what you're point is--I'm not saying you worked at the exact same CFA resto (Centuky Fried... American-chicken?, anyway, whatever chain) as the person who posted the picture.
E: oh fuck it's check fil a, yeah fuck those guys
Wait, now I'm confused. If you didn't know this was about Chick-fil-a, why'd you make the comment about "radical Christian teachings"? I, and I assume most others that read the comment, understood it to be in reference to the fact CFA is an openly Christian restaurant chain.
I saw some other comments mentioning Christianity. But yeah, giving free food is a Christian thing and runs counter to wasteful business practices. Obviously, many Christians would disagree with this interpretation -- hence radical.
Throwing Christ into the ring is a good way of shaming someone for the shitty behaviour, imo. Low crit rate, but when it lands... 💥
Are you insane? What's next? Are you going to lock all the employees inside the Panera and supply them with weapons and organize a free for all battle royale where the winner gets health insurance?!
How very Christian of them.
One day I went to Chipotle before work, with the plan to buy something to later have for lunch. They had recently raised the prices, but I still got my usual burrito. When we got to the guac station, it was fresh out. "They're making more." Cool! I'll just wait then.
When the fresh guac came out a few minutes later, the worker casually went to throw the burrito they'd already made for me away. I stopped them and asked, "What are you doing?!"
They said, "I'm making you a fresh one."
What?! It wasn't even five minutes. I told them, "Just put the fresh guac into the same burrito. I'm not eating it until my lunch break anyway. Four hours from now."
Thankfully the worker complied, but I was shocked. If that's what they typically do, I can't imagine how much food they needlessly waste on a daily basis. Do people seriously think burritos go bad after sitting under foil for a few minutes? Especially when all the exact same ingredients are kept out and uncovered at the prep station for much longer? I just... I can't understand. I paid $9 for something they would have just thrown away?
If food is that easily disposible to a restaurant, then they have no business raising prices so often. Maybe employees can offer to remake food in a situation like I had, in order to satisfy the pickiest of us. But to train people to automatically do it in every circumstance? You're pretty much driving your own food costs up for no reason. I just can't logic this.
There is even more food lost at the warehouse step.
"Packaging is slightly wrinkly to be put on shelf" is enough at times and losing half the dairy due to no air conditioning is still cheaper than keeping food and employees cool.
Late stage capitalism is kind of broken so y'know, gotta chase the quarterly profit, can't just enjoy success and pay employees more.
Also, the world produces more than enough food for everyone to get their nutritional needs soundly met. The problem is our food distribution system and profit motives if you ask me
Perhaps not you but plenty of Karens would raise all kinds of hell over that. These restaurants cater to the Karens. I was written up once at chain for refusing to refund a women's "cold food". She had ordered a take out order, drove for 45 minuets home before taking a bite and bitching about being given "cold food". This bitch really expected her dinner to be hot after almost an hour drive.
There a lot of stuff tossed for food safety reasons that we'd normally just accept and go.
America is the most litigious country, and I can't fault the bizarre things people now have to do because their legal team doesn't want lawsuit repeats.
It actually makes sense in this case. They weren't remaking it because they thought you'd enjoy a fresh burrito, they were remaking it because the tortilla would have grown cold by that point and would be much more difficult to wrap. Thats the reason they put the tortillas in the press, to heat them up so they can wrap them easier. If it gets cold, it's prone to tear.
So you made their job harder.
oh boo hoo, they can handle a slightly harder to wrap burrito a few times per day, that's not an excuse to throw away perfectly edible food.
I used to work at Chick-fil-A in high school for about 2 years. At first we were able to take ice cream home at the end of the day since it would just be poured down the drain anyways. Same with nuggets and fries. It was so fun and rewarding to have a little extra treat. Corporate said the exact same thing, so now we had to pour the soap cleaner into the ice cream machine before emptying it so no one drinks any. It’s so sad.
Capitalism breeds innovation, this is the Innovation that capitalism brings
There are surplus food donation programs: the EPA provides a guide that explains the legal protections & tax benefits with tools to find recipient organizations. When even Chick-fil-a runs one such program, the manager has no excuse to be a certified asshole.
The CFA I worked at (granted, a decade ago) was not owned by a certified asshole, and we definitely took home cookies with their blessing. There was a bin of "bad cookies" where they broke and ended up being for whomever. The bin would then be emptied if nobody else wanted them
Even handing some out to customers for free is a better idea than throwing food away.
The key is everybody takes the good parts home/gives them away, no matter what any manager says.
Tough to fire an entire franchise at once.
I just had to do a swap with Domino's because they gave me the wrong pizza. Just watched them throw the pizza in the trash. It pissed me off, they should have let me keep it. Bullshit sick corporations throwing editable food away. This picture pisses me off.
What did they say to convince you to hand it over? I've never heard of a restaurant that demanded the old order back before they'll replace it. They always let you keep the mistake.
The only explanation I can come up with is that the particular Domino's you went to has a serious Karen problem. People making up complaints just to get free food.
Not too uncommon to bring it with you to show them, an instinct to prove it's wrong and you're not lying. Although most places will ask you if you want to keep both, rather than just immediately tossing it.
No they forced me to do a fucking swap. Said had return the wronged pizza which I found strange because Domino's commercial say they will fix order without returning. Fact that they took the wrong pizza and threw it in garbage in front of me pissed me off.
Damn, that's an extra level of weird here. Like... fair enough if you need to confirm you messed up the order and aren't getting scammed, but you don't need to trash the dang thing, for absolutely zero profit.
I feel like the worst case of leaving the pizza with you is free advertising when you share that free bonus pizza.
I would have refused and then called corporate if they pressed the matter.
Well call corporate is not an option. You can text or email. But I called every number they had and they all pushed me online, call the store which I was already at. Or email and text. Couldn't talk to a person. Fucking sucked.
Those cookies are wrapped and sitting at the top of the trash.
The George Costanza in me says it’s okay to take them.
https://youtu.be/nbN3OWjkEmo?t=61
I used to work at a supermarket that had a little pizza shop inside, in the deli. They'd throw out all the unsold pizza at the end of the night.
I was like, "wait. What? Let us take some home. Or give it to some homeless people"
They were like, "we can't give it away because of liability. And we don't want to attract homeless people. And you can't have it just because "
I'm pretty sure the liability thing is made up. The "don't want homeless to show up" thing is cruel, and not really applicable to rich suburbs.
Well, joke's on them I was friends with the deli guy and he'd "throw out" the pizza directly to me.
Then they went out of business because the upper management types over leveraged themselves
There are services out there that even take rejected food! This is so infuriating! Shame that owner, and shame the capitalistic system that made this all possible!
it’s chick-fil-a. the owner(s) cannot feel shame.
Sadly, just about every product at retail has a version of this. Mass production produces waste at every stage, including the final product. At the same time, those waste streams have value and need to be managed to avoid hurting the bottom line. Usually it's a practical money-making thing, but I suspect that there's ample room here for spite.
For example, "expired" magazines get the covers ripped off, so they can't get re-purposed somehow. Also, new cars are downright rage-inducing when you learn about the full picture.
I am just now learning about the "sabotaging the product so it doesn't get repurposed." Wtf...
We were frequently throwing away the vinyl hardwood flooring packages when I worked at home Depot because customers would tear open the packaging and then we couldnt guarantee it was the full product.
It was infuriating.
They should be producing baeed on sales anyways. They wouldn't bake extra to keep because you would be reprimanded for baking extra at the start vs wasting food at the end. It takes the human element out of decision making which also, ironically, let's you react more humanely to the system.
Manufactured scarcity. Millions of people right here in America are going without the calories to be healthy. And our government literally just burned millions of tons of USAID ment for overseas. They refused to give it to the fucking tax payers let alone donate it to needy people in Africa. Conservative beliefs is a death cult. (specifically the poor, queer, and minorities death...)
Then make less? Or set a number of how many to make so there isn't waste?
Has this company ever done LEAN transformation or any corporate practice to reduce waste?
Or are they just concerned about donating to conversion therapy and dumb Christian hate stuff?
If they are cheap to produce and have high margin, the optional (as in more profit) amount to make might lead to a lot of leftovers.
Newsvendor model it's called of you want to check.
Anyway, fucking hate trowing food.
Thanks! As much as I hate corporate America and being a part of it, I find it fascinating. Learning something new every day.
When you're too stupid to work so you manage instead.
The part I'm mad about is that part of his job is to keep track of how many of what they make and throw out. He's literally wasting food because he's too stupid or lazy to do his job.
Super simple fix:
Every employee gets up to five
freecookies as part of their compensation for the day. Employees may choose to take from the surplus if they care about eliminating waste.in the eighties had a friend who worked fast food. Started with free food on shift and 50% discount anytime. Ended with discount for one meal up to X amount only when working a shift. I think that is my earliest enshitification memory.
Free ? In this economy? Best I can do is $7.25
Damnit, I meant to remove that word. They’re earned
cocklescookies, not free cookies.(edit: damn you autocarrot)
That warms the cookies of my heart
yeah exactly what'd i'd expect from chick fill-a
How Christian of them.
That's very christian of you, chick- fil-A.
1 Timothy 5:18.
For the scripture saith, "Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn." And, "The labourer is worthy of his reward."
I guess the ox is worthy, but the fry cook is not.
It's what Jesus would have done
What a cunt.
Shout-out to too good to go
Extra/not picked up food from restaurants and groceries gets bundled as a mystery box at discounted prices so they don't have to be tossed.
Rhett and Link from good mythical morning regularly do unboxings and reviews
If you think this is bad, just wait until you find out how much food grocery stores throw away every single day.
They used to get incentives to give food that was past its "sell by" date but was still safe to food banks, but that stopped a few years back.
My local food bank was hit hard. They used to get daily deliveries from HEB Randalls trucks. But when the grocery stopped being able to claim incentives, it was cheaper to just throw the food away.
Depends on where you are.
France enacted a law that specified it's illegal for supermarkets to throw away edible food like 10 years ago.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/is-frances-groundbreaking-food-waste-law-working
No idea if it's a biased article though, I didn't read it, I'm drunk and couldn't be arsed
I always heard that grocery stores dump their "expired" food instead of donating it to avoid the possibility that someone could get sick and sue them. Idk if it's true or not but the whole thing is fucked.
That's one of the reasons they used food banks. They absolved themselves of the liability by transferring it to the food banks, who would then be the ones responsible for disposing of expired food instead of handing it out.
Nah, they just don't wanna do it, then they spread this rumor about the perils of our legal system preventing them. There's a thing called the Good Samaritan Food Donation Act in the US which absolves businesses from liability. But i believe it has to go to a distribution center, not directly to a person, which may require additional effort from the grocer/restaurant.
Fuck em, take it anyway.
And get fired for theft?
Hang the manager
Theft or "taking out the waste"
When I worked in a kitchen at a pizza place in the summer of '88, the restaurant chain's policy was that staff could have any food they wanted, free of charge. They just had to note it in a ledger (I assume so that the restaurant could record it as an expense). You could drink as much soda as you wanted without noting it because it was too cheap to care about.
It always seemed like a perfectly rational policy. It's an easy and cheap way to make your employees think you care about them.
what a lot of managers are utterly incapable of comprehending is that you can just say "hey guys, feel free to eat some food and drink some soda, but don't be asshats about it yeah? free food priviliges can and will be taken away if you misuse them, but we'll give you a warning first"
The good news is crumbl cookies donates their excess to the kitchen where my local branch of FNBs preps.
The bad news is they have SO MUCH excess that we literally cannot get rid of all of them giving them away for free. Some end up in the compost.
I worked at a Panera a long time ago on closing shift and we had an agreement with a local food bank who would send over a car to collect bread. Usually the car got filled up and we were allowed to take as much as we could carry of the rest. Only anything leftover after that was thrown away.
Not wanting to incentivise waste is a legit point, but this is the cruelist possible solution to the problem. Which is another thing capitalism is great at incentivising!
This makes me sick. Had the exact opposite experience while working at Honey Baked ham. We were sent home with food almost every day. Even then, on Sundays we would donate bread and meat that was about to go bad to the local church. Was a wholesome experience working there honestly. Hope they still operate that way.
It it's core they were afraid a gay person might snack on one.
Food waste seems pretty high across the board for every country in the world. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/food-waste-by-country
This is not infuriating, idc that a few cookies are being thrown out. People arent starving for some cookies in America. What is actually infuriating is the Trump admin throwing out entire shipments of food that could have provided people with healthy staple foods for a long period.
Just grab a bag off the top
When I worked at Ruby Tuesday, any time a wrong order was made, or something was sent back for any reason, it would get thrown out. They wouldn't give it to their employees, they wouldn't donate it. This was back in 2007. But I thought it was pretty crappy then. Not sure if they still do this.
I'd love to tell your manager that he works at a Christian establishment and that this constitutes greed, perhaps with elements of sloth. Both are mortal sins. Shall the owners' sky-daddy beliefs turn out to be right, he's in for eternal punishment.
I'm sure it's not the 1st mortal sin they have committed, nor will it be their last. What would Jesus have done? But then Christianity hasn't ever really followed what Jesus preached about.
100% have done this.
There should be laws that make this a criminal offense. Send managers like that to jail for a month for this, that might change their opinions slightly
What store is this? I mean, which one?
I hope they piss in his car's ventilation every day.
From what I heard from a coworker, moose pheromones are even stinkier? They used em as a prank (they can be ordered for hunting) on a friend but it was so hard to get out I think the car he to be totalled, if I remember the story right
Call out chick a filla wasting food
Thinking aloud, what would you think of a "community donation" menu item?
The gist is - say you're a pizza company and create an edible mistake - offer the customer to make a community donation. You add $5 to their order (cost of ingredients) and a paper slip to their order and heck, toss in one slice of the mistake pizza. The slip has a dual purpose - one half is a donation receipt, the other is a 'collect 5 for a free pizza' coupon. The rest of the pizza then is free to distribute (to employees, guests, passersby's on the street - or on a particularly error prone day a local shelter)
The shop management gets costs reimbursed. The employee is out only the time for the second pizza (which they had to do anyway) and the customer gets warm fuzzies and a tax write off for doing the right thing. As a bonus, the free pizza and charity are both great optics.
If the customer declines, the option reverts to the employee (they get the tax receipt, house keeps the coupon), and only if both decline may the pizza be trashed (I mean, management may still opt to 'donate' but give it to only non-employees (still great optics), but even if it gets trashed, it now looks like the customer that's the jerk, not the shop.)
And there's little chance of abuse, I think. If the customer and employee conspire, the employee is effectively just adding to their own workload, the customer spends $25 in donations for a free $14 pizza, and management laughs its way to the bank bragging about how charitable their employees are.
So the shop makes the mistake, and the customer now has to pay $5 when returning to get the right order, otherwisethey are the jerk?
No, if the shop makes a mistake, they fix it as normal. I'm discussing what to do with the pizza that isn't fit to the customer's order.
It could look like this:
"Hey, you gave me black olives! I clearly ordered green olives, like I always do!!"
looks at order: "b. olives"😤🙄
"Oh! I'm so sorry, our mistake! We'll remake it immediately - but it'll take ~20 minutes to bake. While we prepare that, can I interest you in our community donation special?"
"What's that?" 😡
"For $5, we'll donate the black olive pizza to hungry families. For your trouble we'll give you an extra two punches on your "buy 6, get the 7th free" as our way of saying thank you. Also, you'll get a receipt for your taxes! Plus - I know it's not what you ordered, but I can get you a slice of that first pizza while you wait.
*customer does math: 2 punches of 6 = ⅓ off, free pizza is normally $18 that's a $6 value.
"Soo… you're saying I pay $5 now, for ⅓ of a pizza later? And a free slice of pizza? (I can just pick off the olives)"
"Yes, and a receipt for your taxes!"
"Sure!"
Customer: Sucker! $5 for a slice of pizza and $6 off a future pizza? How do they stay in business?
Manager: Sucker! $5 covers the material cost of the food, I'm paying the employee the same amount for their shift either way, and that tax coupon means I can convert waste food into an $18 tax write off
Employee: Sucker! the food bank and I have an arrangement where I can take a pie home for my family. I just got free dinner
Food bank: free pizza! Give away one pie to the nice employee's family, and split the rest among the hungry and volunteers.