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til·Today I Learned (TIL)bypelespirit

TIL that mods can see how people vote in their communities

I was editing one of my posts and saw a "View votes" in the dropdown hamburger for the post. Now I can see who serial downvotes. Nice.

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pelespiritreply
sh.itjust.works

The one brave downvoter for this post, lol. It better not be the widders from Seattle, I'll be pissed.

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Crisreply
lemmy.world

Thank you, I had been wondering who downvoted a long string of my comments a couple days ago

I still have no idea why, but it's funny that I can just go look at their profile. It's tempting to just downvote a bunch of their similarly innocuous comments but that seems dumb lol.

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Rimureply
piefed.social

On PieFed the vote buttons are disabled when viewing someone's profile.

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Fuck all those cute boys gonna know I swoon for them thx for doxxing me you've ruined my life

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db2
lemmy.world

Never assume anything you do on servers you don't own are private. In fact don't even do it then, encrypt that shit.

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SatyrSackreply
lemmy.sdf.org
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dilreply
lemmy.zip

I thought you need a public key to read it or some sht, idr how pgp works

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You do. That comment of mine, as is, is entirely worthless.

The sender (in this case, that would be me) needs to encrypt the message using either:

  1. The public key of the recipient
  2. A custom passphrase
  3. Any combination of the above, including multiple different public keys

That way, the only people who can decrypt the message is a person with the private key that is paired with any of the public keys that the message was encrypted with OR literally anybody that happens to have the passphrase it was encrypted with.

I think I had encrypted that message using just my own public key, so as I said, the message is completely useless to anybody but myself.

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lemmy.world

Tying votes to accounts is pretty much required by the way activity-pub works; an upvote is basically the same as a heart/like on old Twitter and with federation it needs to know where the vote is coming from and where it’s going.

Piefed has an option to try to circumvent this by creating a second, “fake” account with no obvious connection to your own account and sends all your votes using that account. If the instance doesn’t have many accounts, though, it can still be obvious who’s voting.

As others have mentioned, other front ends or services can show the votes publicly to anyone who wants to see it. Even on other platforms that use a voting system one should always assume the votes are tied to one’s account.

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canreply
sh.itjust.works

Piefed stopped that actually and now instead have an option to not have your votes federate to other instance entirely.

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The same. But a vote that does not federate will only have an impact on the instance where it was cast.

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lemmy.world

To be fair, I have a small handful of troll accounts that I tag and downvote whenever I see them posting. Sometimes they go on a posting tangent and I end up with a string of downvoting which looks bad without context

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Now that lemmy has grown I've gotten a lot more liberal with the block function. Fact that it's right next to the reply button is nifty.

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lemmy.world

That's one of the things that I don't like about Lemmy. But unless there's better service that's not centralized I guess I will remain here for at least some time.

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I think PieFed has something to "fix" this. IIRC, they have a second account just for voting. You use your main account, but the random second account is used for voting

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Rimureply
piefed.social

On PieFed instances the votes of serial downvoters are automatically discarded.

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It's weird people constantly say mods have magic powers...

And I almost never see lemvotes mentioned.

Admins have a much easier time, that's why all the communities that ban people for down voting are moderated by admins of tiny instances.

Im pretty sure if they're not an admin of an instance (there's a lot of small ones out there) the mods are just using lemvotes.

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Hell, your comment should be a TIL all by itself. Maybe people will stop bitching about their posts getting a single downvote when they can see it's just a few trolls.

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pelespiritreply
sh.itjust.works

That would be helpful. The only problem is, I've found a person that is definitely a serial downvoter, but I can't ban them because they don't make comments. I guess I'll ask the admin to do it.

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I love tesseract, but it doesn't save my settings. I guess I could go in and do that specifically. Thanks for the heads up.

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It's a small, new community, which is why I know that they're doing it. It's blatantly obvious.

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Voting is kind of lame IMO. I wish it would die with Reddit. Large or small votes, my feed always seems to still be what it is, and I don't filter by votes or anything like that. Don't pay it much attention other than to maybe acknowledge the person above me.

Actually if my local community subreddit taught me anything, I've often got more in common with the downvoted folks.

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