Spyke

Translation:

It is hard to explain my friend.

It is as if one day you'll be with your friends, browsing in JD Sports (sports shop) and you fancy a curry from the "curry club" menu at Wetherspoons (a nationwide chain of drinking establishments that serve "pub" style food).

However your friend who is male, called Callum, who is also an absolute legend and the epitome of banter (friendly and humerous conversation of a non-serious manner) will say "Brethren (an old fashioned way of referring to a friend you consider a brother) let's have a naughty Nandos (a chain restaurant that specialises in Peri Peri style chicken) instead"

Consequently you will think "Most excellent, let's go there and excel at the process of ordering and eating food"

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egretsreply
lemmy.world

Unsolicited peer review time...

browsing in JD Sports (sports shop)

*trainer shop, let's be realistic

from the "curry club" menu

The Thursday specials, to be specific.

called Callum

*Calum

Brethren (an old fashioned way of referring to a friend you consider a brother)

This comes from Jamaican Patois, it's not just a memetic imitation of Early Modern English.

No further notes.

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Klearreply
lemmy.world

Ok, now you're just writing random strings of letters...

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Mandem's basically in American English as well, we just say it a little different. It's a shortening of man and them, as in your boys. As Vince Staples says "know a change gone come like Obama 'n them say, but they're shooting every day round my mama 'n them way".

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wunamireply
lemmy.world

You've translated but original question of what a cheeky Nandos is remains. So cheeky translates to naughty? And naughty is a type of Nandos food? Is there non-naughty Nandos? Or are they eating it in a naughty way? Or is Nandos somehow naughtier than curry from Wetherspoons?

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

My apologies no it isn't a type of food there, it is naughty in the terms of being indulgent or impulsive and is more of a turn of phrase that is often used in "lad culture" over here, which is sort of like a parallel to a "frat bro" in US culture. Think obnoxious, loud sometimes aggressive groups of guys.

Cheeky in this sense was in the past more often used in terms of alcoholic beverages so often people would use it to say things like "Do you fancy getting a cheeky pint after work". More modern usage it is often used to refer to food as well as drink and in the case of "cheeky nandos" will quite often be used by aforementioned "lads" when they have already had a few drinks and want to go and indulge in some chicken before going out and getting shit faced for the night.

Tldr: It is a turn of phrase used to mean indulging in an impulsive meal from the restaurant chain "Nandos"

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fushuanreply
piefed.blahaj.zone

Oh, so it's like kebab, something solid to fill you fast so you can get properly shitfaced.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

That isn't an English menu, the prices are in R which I think is South African Rand and not Pounds. It was more to illustrate the type of food available.

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Is there some kind of spice level:naughtiness correlation?

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It is as if one day you're in the mall, and you feel a little hungry for tikka masala, but your friend who is an absolute legend and your brother, asks if you want chicken tandoori instead and you say "haan let us eat it"

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Echo Dotreply
feddit.uk

Realistically though JD sports is to a sports shop what Curries is to a PC store.

Sure they sell trainers but their selection is strictly fashion related, if you want actual quality you're better off going literally anywhere else, even Clarks.

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Nando's is a South African multinational fast casual restaurant chain that specialises in Portuguese flame-grilled, peri-peri style chicken. The name is derived from a nickname for the male given name Fernando in reference to one of the company's founders, as in Fernando's restaurant. Founded in Johannesburg in 1987.

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lemmy.world

I think the big point of confusion is why it's cheeky to go to this restaurant.

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"cheeky" is a bit like a little treat. Something you shouldn't do, but isn't a big deal

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sh.itjust.works

As the other commentator said, it's a bit of a "treat yoself" moment for a fast food chain thing that's surprisingly good.

Though, when I was there, nobody actually called it a cheeky nandos, it was just "let's go to Nandos".

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lenuupreply
reddthat.com

as the only ones capable of proper English, the English language is passed on to the Dutch.

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J92reply
lemmy.world

The might as well take English. They just sound drunk when they speak their own language.

(To Germans...apparently)

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That one was always weird to me as a native German speaker. Dutch has very prominent sounds (mostly the G) that aren't really present in standard German or English that remind me much more of sore throat or coughing than being drunk.

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Psythikreply
lemmy.world
  1. That's redneck speak, not Yankee speak. Yanks say things like "fuggetabout it", and "Hey! I'm wolkin' 'ere!"
  2. Rednecks are mostly confined to the South-Eastern part of the country. Yanks are in the Northeast. Most Americans are neither Yanks nor Rednecks.
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SkyezOpenreply
lemmy.world

Yep. We're 50 countries in a trench coat. We have about a dozen dialects, many occasionally incomprehensible to others. My favorite example of this is "finnabouttabe."

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The English language itself is like nine languages in a trench coat. It's mainly German/Dutch & French, with some sprinkling of Latin and various other romantic languages.

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Basically yeah

It's a quick in-and-out kebab place. You're not necessarily getting a normal meal, youre just popping in for a quick bite of chicken

Cheeky = playfully naughty more or less

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Soupreply
lemmy.world

I feel like it’s one of those things where as a native speaker you really should be able to understand it but if you’re ESL it’s fucking nightmare zone of slang and strong accents.

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sopuli.xyz

I'm calling foul. There's no way an absolute ledge would call it "the Spoons". It's just "Spoons".

Not that I'd drink there, mind. Fucking Brexit Arms.

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drolexreply
sopuli.xyz

Are you a southerner by any chance? Do you call it a bap, a roll? I've heard it called 'the spoons' when I was in Manchester (I'm French though, sorry about it. Proof: 'squiwwel')

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I like how apparently Northern Scotland and the Southern bit of Northern Ireland just don't have any bread at all. Apparently the heathens don't deserve it.

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cattyreply
lemmy.world

... but there's only one spoons in their locality

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Darrenreply
sopuli.xyz

There’s only one Spoons near me. It’s called Spoons.

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cattyreply
lemmy.world

and what if there were two, but only one good one. What would that be called?

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Darrenreply
sopuli.xyz

As @[email protected] has already noted, there's no such thing as a "good Spoons". They're all McDonald's for beer.

But if you need to differentiate between two, you'd use their location.

That is: "Meet at Spoons by the station for a pre-town sesh, yeah?"

Or: "We were in Spoons next to Nandos. We'd had some cheeky piri piri and Damo went and shat himself when he necked a Stella! Absolute scenes, mate. Pure bants."

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All wrong. The spoons is where the ledge stuff once happened.

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Echo Dotreply
feddit.uk

There's one in Newcastle where downstairs is trash and the upstairs is merely crap. They do weddings, if you want the most depressing wedding in the world.

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Haven't stepped foot in one since 2016, with one exception where I went for a piss and run, can't say being there brought back fond memories, bit depressing if anything.

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feddit.org

Many British English dialects are pretty much unintelligible to people who only know standard accents.

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discuss.tchncs.de

I thnk that's what they meant, as in, surprised that the British have bastardized English more than the Aussies have

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Ech
lemmy.ca

"archbishop of banterbury" really got me. Top shelf.

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This has been a thing on British-speaking dating app profiles for at least 10 years to the point that I absolutely hate it now.

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This is a quote from a horror story. I'm annoyed that I can't seem to find it with a search, or remember the title or author. It's a good story. It goes on like this, iterating through more and more awful Nandos-based scenarios without ever losing the Chav speech patterns.

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Kogasareply
programming.dev

Archbishop of Canterbury, but "banter" instead of "Canter" because he's good at banter

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IndiBronyreply
lemmy.world

I'm British, let me do you the honour:

"Gesib, hit is earfoð þæt to secgenne. Hƿilum þū eart mid þīnum ƿinuman ƿandigende beforan JD’s ceapstōre, and þū miht ƿilnian þæs cires-clybbe æt þǣm Spōnum, ac þīn gefera Calum – þæt is ānhoga and hlāford beþēahte drycra – þæt ealdor of Banterbury, ƿill secgan: 'Brōðras, ƿuton gān to þǣm scēadan Nando’s.' And þū ƿilt secgan: 'Þæt is tōp! ƿuton hit tōsmiþian!'"

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lemmy.world

Genuine question, is this hard to understand as an American? I'm a non native English speaker who's met British people before and there's, like, 2 references in there I didn't catch, but otherwise, you can figure, no?

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gruereply
lemmy.world

I had trouble with the references to JD, 'Spoons, and Nandos because I'm not familiar with UK retail and restaurant chains.

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lemmy.world

I mean, the context tells you that the latter two are places where you can get food, that's about all that's relevant

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lemmy.today

Curry isn't ubiquitous stateside. It would not be difficult to find an American who doesn't understand "curry" is food.

Without that reference, those latter two places could be pretty much anything.

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It would not be difficult to find an American who doesn’t understand “curry” is food.

i refuse to believe this.

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I had some colleagues from UK, who talked like that from time to time between themselves. God knows how many cheeky beers we had.

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Isn’t it just eating at nandos? Like that was the least confusing part of this whole conversation to me

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feddit.uk

I don’t know why people bang on about Nando’s, it’s not even that good.

I understood all of this but it was still quite hard to read because lots of people talk like this but nobody writes that way.

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The last time I was at a Nando's I thought to try my hand at mild flirting, it somehow worked and the lady seemed interested, however before I could get her number I started getting extreme abdominal cramps and spent half the visit on the toilet... Praying to every god I could think of.

She said she'd like to see me again. I never went back. It's just not worth it... Good chicken though.

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I love peri peri chicken but Nando’s is among the worst I’ve had. I don’t understand it, either.

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