Spyke
exu
feditown.com

As they note in the article, this is a temporary measure, I.E. guaranteed to break soon.

Start switching to Firefox now so you're done when they finally turn it of. Ignore any other Chromium based browsers, it's unlikely they have the manpower to extend MV2 beyond what Google supports with their LTS releases.

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Spuddlesv2reply
lemmy.ca

Firefox on iOS doesn’t offer any ad blocking. Vivaldi (and several other) Chromium browsers do. So for a good chunk of the mobile community, Firefox is not the best option.

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exureply
feditown.com

Blame Apple for that, as for the longest time they only allowed using the Safari engine on iOS. Apparently that's still the case outside the EU now, meaning Mozilla would need to maintain two versions on iOS.

On any other operating system, Firefox is by far the best at blocking ads with uBlock Origin.

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Orion browser on iOS supports Firefox and Chrome extensions. It’s relatively new still, but I’ve been using it without any issue with uBO

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sh.itjust.works

Apple limits mobile browsers a shit ton. When you get Firefox on iOS, you don't get Firefox, you get what's basically a safari front end. This is the reason you can install uBlock Origin or other extensions on the android version of Firefox, but be unable on the iOS version.

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I know mate, but this isn't about installing extensions. Both Vivaldi and Brave have built-in adblockers in their iOS versions. That is not prevented or restricted by Apple.

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supermursreply
kbin.earth

Yep, I wish Firefox stepped up in this matter, since their competition can implement decent adblockers on iOS, while dealing with the exact same limitations Apple has set.

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lemmy.world

Ios is never going to allow this. The best option is pihole and vpn

Ads are necessary curse for humanity. The general mass will never switch to open source or challenging alternatives and it sux

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iOS already allows adblocker features for 3rd party browsers. Both Vivaldi and Brave have working adblockers, but Firefox does not.

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Thank you. Glad one person has the ability to actually comprehend what I said. Vivaldi - and several others - does ad blocking on iOS right now.

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robolemmyreply
lemmy.world

On iOS the Orion browser lets you use Firefox or chrome mods.

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Alternatively, you could use a browser instead of an advertisement delivery app.

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you can enable ublock in chrome by downloading firefox from chrome, installing it, then installing ublock in firefox and finally removing chrome

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Gal
lemmy.world

People will do anything, but use Firefox

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Yeah all you have to do is circumvent the security settings in your browser and suppress warning messages to enable Manifest 2, all in 8 easy steps (written as if it's 6 steps to make it seem less onerous). For now. Until Google switches it off completely.

Or, drop Chrome and Chromium based browsers (such as Edge, Vivaldi, Brave etc) in one easy step. Install a privacy respecting Firefox based browser like Firefox itself or Librewolf.

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all you have to do is circumvent the security settings in your browser and suppress warning messages

I think this is a very important point that too few people are raising and it's getting buried under the spam of "switch to Firefox" messages. Yes, switching to Firefox is an option. But clearly some people don't want to do it, and we give them these workarounds without saying what they really do and without highlighting that they are potentially dangerous. You use your browser for a large part of your interaction with your computer, so any downgrade in security is going to be significant. To me, the short-term implications of this are far more important than the longstanding Chrome-vs-Firefox discussion.

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lemmy.world

That is impossible for many people for the same reason why they still on Xitter, etc. They believe, that with enough willpower, the people ruining our software infrastructure can be convinced for the better. And also many people still believe that if you criticize their "meme browser" made by the cool "don't be evil" company, you're a Microsoft shill forcing them to use IE, that is buggy and slow.

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lemmy.zip

It blows my mind how many people use chrome over edge thinking that they are making super smart choice. I feel like I was still seeing memes on reddit making fun of Edge over Chrome.

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And here I am, seeing both as equivalent. I honestly don't see a meaningful difference between Edge and Chrome...

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To be clear, that’s exactly what I mean. I use Firefox, but I find the edge vs chrome debate amusing.

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lemmy.world

And also many people still believe that if you criticize their "meme browser" made by the cool "don't be evil" company, you're a Microsoft shill forcing them to use IE, that is buggy and slow

Which I find absolutely hilarious, as Edgemium is a better browser than chrome. I still use Firefox first and foremost, but at work when I have to use something else, it performs better and has better features IMO.

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sh.itjust.works

They're the same browser though. They use the same rendering engine, same JavaScript engine, etc. There are more similarities than differences.

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lemmy.world

They're the same browser though.

They actually aren't the same browser, since MS rips out some stuff and adds their own. Including features I like tree style tabs.

It's a similar and derivative browser, but they aren't the same.

There are more similarities than differences.

You can say the same about tons of things, but the differences are what matters. You and I share more similarities than differences, just like the browsers, but we aren't the same person.

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sh.itjust.works

They're the same in the ways I care about, which is rendering and javascript engines. I'm a developer, that's what matters to me. I rarely interact with extra features, and I can get most of what's unique about a given browser with extensions.

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lemmy.world

Right, the rendering engine is the same, that's still not the browser. Again, just because it's a derivative browser doesn't make it the same browser.

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I kinda think it does. I use a gecko browser as my main, and I use a chromium browser as my backup. I don't use most of the default features, I just need a handful of extensions, and those are available everywhere.

So to me they're pretty much the same. Brave is a little different since it embeds an ad blocker, but besides that, the rest of the chromium browsers are equivalent for me.

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Let it go bro. Just switch to Firefox & co. Or at least use it less for something that does not require ad-blocking.

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lemmy.ml

I'm struggling with the concept of people putting effort into using uBlock Origin with Chrome.

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elucubrareply
sopuli.xyz

I have to use Chrome to access a couple of sites that don't play nice with Firefox.

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ohshit604reply
sh.itjust.works

I have to use Chrome to access a couple of sites that don't play nice with Firefox.

I bet those sites will play nice if you switch your user-agent to display as chrome.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Is there an easy way to do this? I tried it for YouTube cause they slow Firefox down to a crawl but it didn't seem to do anything. Maybe the extension I downloaded was at fault but I couldn't find an easy way to just do it in Firefox without an extension.

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atrielienzreply
lemmy.world

My new rent portal is one of these sites. Can't just not pay rent because I don't like chromium browsers.

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lemmy.world

Rent portal? You mean bank account with direct debit and/or electronic transfer. What is a rent portal? How can you possibly benefit from having a website just to act as a middle man to collect your personal info?

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Because not everyone has a bank account. Some people get paid via a cash card or similar (as an alternative to paper checks or direct deposit if they don't have a bank account). This allows them to pay in alternate ways. But additionally all trouble calls/maintenance requests are done through that same portal. I signed my lease through it.

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lemmy.world

Just use edge, it’s chrome based. Or any other chrome based browsers that aren’t google chrome?

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rozodrureply
lemmy.world

well this is just silly advice. that's like saying "Don't use Chrome, use Vivaldi" it's all chromium thus it will also disable uBlock.

Get off ALL chromium based browsers. I loved Vivaldi but I haven't used it in well over a year. Switch to FF or a Fork of it like Floorp OR if you're like me and don't like Mozilla use QuteBrowser and never have to worry about anything ever again.

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Well some haven’t disabled ublock yet. So it isn’t that silly if chrome based is what they need to run for certain sites. Just use something that is based off it and isn’t stoping ublock yet.

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Firefox has a new profiles experience in v138 and up. Each can have its own extensions and settings. If you've got more than one you can switch in the taskbar. The only thing you might be missing is using multiple profiles at once?

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Have you looked into Firefox Multi Account Containers? I use this extension to quickly switch between multiple tab groups, some of which do use SSO while using the same service (e.g. Outlook). Plus, you can easily create new tabs like Ctrl + Shift + (#1-9) to open a container of your choice among other shortcuts. I know it doesn't meet all your criteria, but each tab group has its own colour and/or icon to make them distinct, while being in the same window

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I use Firefox on everything EXCEPT my Steam Deck. Firefox will not let you open the dropdown menu to exit, make videos fullscreen etc. And when a notification pops up, your firefox is now 100 by 30 pixels...

I wish they would fix it already...

I can use firefox in desktop mode but i don't like having to switch to desktop mode and wait for everything. Then switch back to play something.

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Eh.

After years and years of Chrome I just up and switched on Friday when they finally pulled the plug.

No regrets. No waving from the stern of the ship as I sail away from Chromeland.

If they choose to take away a valuable tool I consider necessary for browsing the web, then I have no loyalty to them and can easily move on. Took all of 10 seconds to import my shit into Firefox and be on my way.

Bye, Chrome. Thanks for being useful, until you weren't.

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lemdro.id

Use librewolf or fennec (Firefox forks)

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discoreply
lemdro.id

I used ironfox too, just a lot of website functionality was broken using it. (At least for me and this was months ago). Settled on fennec.

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I main ironfox and use a base version of firefox for the occasional websites that break.

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Been using it with uBlock Origin in medium mode which breaks even more sites and I don't have much trouble with broken sites.

For the occasional website that just refuses to work, I use Cromite.

This, of course, will depend on the sites you use as well so YMMV.

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I use IronFox all the time. For me almost nothing is broken.

Once a year I find one low value site that I have to load in Cromite to see what it is, and then I never use that trash site again.

In other words, IronFox fulfills 100% of all my browsing needs excellently.

I used Mull before IronFox, and my experience there was excellent as well.

There is no good reason to use Chrome today or even some years back when Mull was the thing.

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lemmy.world

Why jump through all these hoops, and lessen the security of your browser in the process, just to do something that is being fully stripped out soon anyway?

Just install Firefox. It's not like you can't import your bookmarks and such.

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feddit.org

You can, but you should just switch to Firefox or accept ads in Chromium Browsers.

I can imagine that in the long run it will get harder for their forks to block ads with any extension.

I can't wait for Ladybird in the future 💪.

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There is no such option "accepting ads". I will do everything in my power to block any type of ad in every device i own, no matter the diffuculty.

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Oh definitely. I gave up ads about 20 years ago when I got rid of cable. Not a chance in hell I'm going back.

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lemmy.ca

JUST FU***** CHANGE BROWSER ALREADY! Why you have to be so stupid to use Chrome?

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According to the people I know, "It's better" because they won the browser speed race without looking at anything else.

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You should see people hanging onto windows instead of switching to any other OS...

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You can still block ads while shoving your data up Google's ass, here is how.

Don't use Chrome

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Just use Firefox. Its people's fault that it got so bad because you basically gave them a browser monopoly

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lemmy.world

God, this is like those people who still insist on running Windows 7

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DacoTacoreply
lemmy.world

Tbf, win7 was the best os i ever used. Only to be royally fucked by win8, win10 and win11. Oh how it has fallen...

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sh.itjust.works

Hmm, openSUSE Tumbleweed has been the best OS I've ever used, and it's still available. Windows 7 was marginally better than Vista because they fixed the broken stuff, but it still had all the problems of a Windows OS.

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DacoTacoreply
lemmy.world

Except all problems of a windows system werent on win7. Bloat? Minimal, was mostly the theme that was heavy but could be disabled. Forced updates? Didnt exist yet. Hardware requirements? A running pc. Half assed new ui? Didnt exist yet. Confusing configs that were all over the place? Nope, started in win8 and 10. Software comparability? 90% hell yes.

Win7 was a polished vista, with loads of bloat removed, performance improvements and 1000% more stable.
Win8 started screwing with shit and moving stuff partly and it went downhill from there.

And im also comparing it to os' of the time. Clearly with todays tech id pick a linux over win7 anyday, but in those days win7 was king

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Nah, in those days I picked Linux. In fact, I got a "win7 ready laptop" and still picked Linux over it. Windows 7 was better than Vista, but it didn't fix the other issues I had w/ windows.

I honestly think Win10 was better than Win7.

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lol noooooooooooo

Horrible from a security standpoint. A good step into the future, but honestly let it go.

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sh.itjust.works

I hate chrome with a passion and it really sucks that Firefox isn't as convenient for profiles, a feature I rely heavily on, although, I'm still switching. fuck ads and fuck data harvesting, I'd rather have a slightly less performant browser than be visually assaulted and have my performance tank.

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Haven't heard of that one before, it's pretty interesting from first impressions though. I'll try it out tomorrow and see how it goes. Thanks!

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My first web browser was Mosaic version 1. I ran version 2 alpha for a bit.

Netscape started doing things better so I moved over to it.

Over the years I've bounced around from Netscape, Firefox, Opera, Chrome, and a few others (the MS browsers never really swayed me). It seemed like every year I'd be moving to a new platform or version. I usually have 3-4 browsers installed on my computers at any given time.

Once Chrome blocked uOrigin I moved over to Firefox. Easy.

The point is, to get the best (and safest) browsing experience, you have to be flexible. If you just use the thing that "came with the computer" you're going to have a bad time. If Chrome wants to break your browsing experience, ditch it.

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Lots of comments in here saying to just use Firefox, and they're entirely correct, but the one use case for articles like this I could think of is where you are forced to use Chrome at work but can still install extensions.

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lemmy.world

Can't wait till Kagi Browser releases their Linux version of a browser based on webkit, but it's prob at least another year or more frmo being released and Gnome Web is so featureless it's useless and can't even play YouTube videos half the time in 2025...

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Librewolf is too hardened for my use case. By the time I tweak Librewolf to my liking, it's functionally Firefox, but with a different icon, lol. Just gonna ride out Firefox for the next year or two and them jump off this ship.

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lemmy.world

The UBlock Origin Lite app (currently in Testflight beta but seems to be full, but hopefully coming to the app store soon) works great with iOS Safari. I use that on iOS and Firefox on the desktop, which turns out to be a great combo if you have password and bookmark management separate.

Firefox Focus is also great as the default browser on the phone to avoid links opening from Meta or Google in Safari.

Running the «Always in Container» extension in Firefox gives the same effect on desktop and avoids opening a link in the wrong container. Highly recommended: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/always-in-container/

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supermursreply
kbin.earth

Is the uBlock Origin Lite TestFlight app only for Safari or is it system wide?

I'd love to benefit from it while using Firefox on iOS.

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nikolaiareply
lemmy.world

Installs as a Safari Extension, so I believe it is only for Safari and not for the «webkit core» itself that all browsers on iOS use.

Another option is the Orion browser from Kagi that supports desktop extensions like Ublock Origin.

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Thanks! Too bad the Orion browser won't sync history & other stuff with Firefox.

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I hate that the source article title has a comma splice, and rules say we have to perpetuate that.

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For those that do need to use Chrome for whatever reason, don't bother with all this faff just use uBOL, it's just as good as uBO

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sh.itjust.works

If you have to use a Chromium browser. Just use Brave. It haves a built in ad blocker.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

You mean the browser that was caught injecting affiliate codes on cryptocurrency sites and misleading users into making donations that were collected by brave instead of the supposed recipient? That browser?

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They only made those changes after several of the people whose likeness they stole called them out. Regardless, it should never have happened in the first place.

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