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Shrek 2 takes it further with Fiona actively choosing to let the magic wear off so her boy toy would turn back into an ogre rather than settle for a twunk rest of her life.
I'm no Disney expert but Belle is the only worthy Princess of the bunch
She wanted to pursue knowledge, not a boy or just fun; she dropped everything to save her dad instead of causing his death or dethronement; she was fully aware how disgusting Gaston was regardless of appearance; she was seduced by books not riches; and yes, she was ready to ride the beast
Stockholm Syndrome isn’t an actual thing, fyi. It has never been recognized as a condition and never been diagnosed. The entire thing was an attempt to dismiss valid reactions to police incompetence.
Controversy and debate about whether the condition exists for literal hostages in a violent/deadly situation is a step removed from talking about whether people become irrationally attached to manipulative romantic/sexual partners, and stay despite all rationality pointing towards leaving.
I don't know if Stockholm Syndrome exists for hostages held at gunpoint. But I do know that plenty of people have behaved irrationally about attachment to abusive people in their lives. And we don't have to call that particular condition Stockholm Syndrome, but your argument doesn't really disprove the topic of this discussion.
your argument doesn't really disprove the topic of this discussion.
Topic of Discussion
I don't know if Stockholm Syndrome exists for hostages held at gunpoint.
Stockholm syndrome doesn't require being held at gun point.
The real issue is people behaving irrationally according to you. If you were in this situation, you would done the rational thing. Therefore, they must be irrational. They are, I'm part, to blame for their situation.
But this is all predicted on your value system and not theirs. Stockholm syndrome doesn't take into account their story and what convinced them to behave the way they did. It a heavy hand that decontextualizes events and removes victims agency. Accounting for these may still reveal something worth addressing for a smaller subset of victims who are trauma bonded, but it should patiently and diligently center and empower the voices of victims and not dismiss them as irrational
I like the take in Phantom of the Opera better here. At first you expect it to be a beauty and the beast romantic story but Christine rejects the phantom not because of his appearance but because his soul is just as ugly as his exterior.
That’s like, the moral of the whole movie is that she didn’t judge him for his appearance and wasn’t expecting a prince. I figured this was well known.
That's the interpretation from the modern perspective on relationships. The tale is from a time where women (well, more like girls to be exact) were married off without any say of their own, and the tale was supposed to tell them "hey, we know the guy we're forcing you to marry seems like a hairy monster, buuuuut if you can look past that he might be nice actually!"
But in the Disney movie which the picture is referencing, it’s not a forced marriage, which is the version I think most people think of.
To me, the original tales all felt like the Murphy’s Law of storytelling. While they are the originals and are much more mature material, I honestly feel the vast majority of Disney adaptations (I’m talking classic 2d series run) are better at teaching the lessons to a modern audience than the original stories. Times change and art often reflects this.
Sadly, the pendulum has swung too far the other way and we’re remaking material in a span of time that the lessons haven’t changed all that much. That’s why you can go back to pretty much all eras of film and get valuable lessons from it because the lessons all still apply. It’s just that much of a new medium.
I have to imagine there’s a meme or comic of Bella being all super excited ready to bang becoming disappointed once he transforms back into a human, but I wouldn’t know how to search for it without having to sift through piles of rule 34 to find one. I’m not brave enough.
Now that I think about it, I certainly was disappointed. He was a hot muscular beast until he turned into a cookie cutter long haired twink. Should have been a clue.
I know you're kind of joking, but the story was written during a time where girls would often be married off to older men they didn't know and the story was meant as a comfort/encouragement to these young girls that he may be ugly and old and not really what you dreamed of, but maybe he turns out to be an actually kind person who can give you a good life and you can learn to love him despite his looks.
Gaston has topped every willing villager behind the local tavern but i have zero problem believing he still intends to marry Belle and have 12 kids. He's a hunting lodge bear but his sequel orientation is dominant. Doesn't matter who.
They're so clearly puritanical propaganda from way back that I'm consistently disappointed with modern society for slurping up Di$ney's candy-coated versions that instill 99% of the same bullshit: stay at home forever, don't defy your father/mother, royals are the magic cure-all, you're born special (the world just doesn't know it yet), etc.
Between that steady stream of insidious hopium in the communal well and Religion® still holding global sway, I honestly have very little hope we'll avoid extinction by our own hands, NGL. It's not an if, it's a when. 😄🫣😶
He was still a wealthy prince, no? If he was charming and kind on top of that, I think a lot of women wouldn't mind, even ones that aren't furries or monsterfuckers.
If I've ever watched the movie I don't recall it at all, admittedly.
With how common and popular female sex toys modeled after animal and fantasy creature penises, tongues etc. are this just makes sense. And having known some horse girls in my life, yeah, I'd not be surprised at all to learn many have fantasies like that. I always found the "horse/dragon/tentacle etc. dildo" thing pretty fucked up, I'm sure many of those people (and people in general) would not like it if they heard about "horse/dragon/whatever fleshlight or sexdoll for men". (Never seen or heard about that existing, but I'm sure it does).
I mean if your partner comes out one day and wants to transition, you can still be happy for them even if you don’t want to stay in a relationship with them. No shame there.
Came here to share that. The beast was cursed to be a beast while raping a preistess, and eventually learned that women actually had more interest in sleeping with him as a beast than they ever did when he was human
"No offense, honey, but do you think perhaps if I went back to that witch and asked real nice she could turn you back, but this time because you were good not because you were evil"
All of the books are worth reading! Start with the short stories then move onto the longform books. There's also a collection of Audible rips floating around the high seas too that are quite high quality. Also for how much of a reputation the brand has for salaciousness, the books are actually quite tame most of the time, and some of the stories are clearly inspired by the same source material as many of the classic Disney princess movies.
Honestly I also thoroughly enjoyed all of the Netflix media for The Witcher too. Blood origin was a fun prequel, and the animes do a good job of giving kind an alternate approach to the series that's equally good.
Just like how Shek didn't know that Fiona would turn into a SBBW ogre. He was prepared to wear an angry skinny white girl like a condom
I didn't need that mental image. But since you have installed it in my head, I am honor-bound to upvote.
sigh
Cue the Hulk/Black Widow GIF
I'm delighted to report that I have no idea what gif you're referring to, and I am happy to keep it that way
Since you asked
::: spoiler Tap for reddit link https://www.reddit.com/r/shitposting/comments/zq07ji/hulk_smash/ :::
Ha! That link is staying blu—
dammitIs there a link directly to the gif? for those if us who don't have reddit logins?
https://old.reddit.com/
And turn off your speaker sound! You can thank me later!
Came back to say, "thank you."
That still asked me to login even in desktop mode
Strange. Have you typed in the URL exactly as above? It's important that there's no "www" in that url.Other than that, I can't really help you. :/
You shouldn't need a login, if on mobile set your browser to desktop mode to bypass the age thing
I tried to get it, but the copied link is about:blank. Try using an instance of Redlib to see it.
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ohh cool tip will check it out thanks!
If you use a US VPN the "I'm not over 18" button turns to "Yes, I'm over 18"
flashbacks to the early days of Imgur
that.gif
Shrek 2 takes it further with Fiona actively choosing to let the magic wear off so her boy toy would turn back into an ogre rather than settle for a twunk rest of her life.
I'm no Disney expert but Belle is the only worthy Princess of the bunch
She wanted to pursue knowledge, not a boy or just fun; she dropped everything to save her dad instead of causing his death or dethronement; she was fully aware how disgusting Gaston was regardless of appearance; she was seduced by books not riches; and yes, she was ready to ride the beast
And then she founded the company "Bad Dragon"
lol spot on
I guess it's good that she took a Chance on him.
Well it can't have hurt that the beast owned a magical castle.
yes but she would have left given the chance after knowing about the magic castle
At first yes, but then it grew on her.
I think it was the gigantic free library
To me I felt like Belle had Stockholm syndrome
Stockholm Syndrome isn’t an actual thing, fyi. It has never been recognized as a condition and never been diagnosed. The entire thing was an attempt to dismiss valid reactions to police incompetence.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
Controversy and debate about whether the condition exists for literal hostages in a violent/deadly situation is a step removed from talking about whether people become irrationally attached to manipulative romantic/sexual partners, and stay despite all rationality pointing towards leaving.
I don't know if Stockholm Syndrome exists for hostages held at gunpoint. But I do know that plenty of people have behaved irrationally about attachment to abusive people in their lives. And we don't have to call that particular condition Stockholm Syndrome, but your argument doesn't really disprove the topic of this discussion.
Topic of Discussion
Stockholm syndrome doesn't require being held at gun point.
The real issue is people behaving irrationally according to you. If you were in this situation, you would done the rational thing. Therefore, they must be irrational. They are, I'm part, to blame for their situation.
But this is all predicted on your value system and not theirs. Stockholm syndrome doesn't take into account their story and what convinced them to behave the way they did. It a heavy hand that decontextualizes events and removes victims agency. Accounting for these may still reveal something worth addressing for a smaller subset of victims who are trauma bonded, but it should patiently and diligently center and empower the voices of victims and not dismiss them as irrational
Belle and the beast never really existed either so maybe she did have it!
Wow what a read! TIL. Thank you for this
If he's verbally abusive, violent, and keeps you locked up as a prisoner, he isn't necessarily evil.
You can change him! Just be patient, accept him, and love him!
I like the take in Phantom of the Opera better here. At first you expect it to be a beauty and the beast romantic story but Christine rejects the phantom not because of his appearance but because his soul is just as ugly as his exterior.
Don't research the sequel.
Naveen was more of a Princess than Tiana
That’s like, the moral of the whole movie is that she didn’t judge him for his appearance and wasn’t expecting a prince. I figured this was well known.
That's the interpretation from the modern perspective on relationships. The tale is from a time where women (well, more like girls to be exact) were married off without any say of their own, and the tale was supposed to tell them "hey, we know the guy we're forcing you to marry seems like a hairy monster, buuuuut if you can look past that he might be nice actually!"
But in the Disney movie which the picture is referencing, it’s not a forced marriage, which is the version I think most people think of.
To me, the original tales all felt like the Murphy’s Law of storytelling. While they are the originals and are much more mature material, I honestly feel the vast majority of Disney adaptations (I’m talking classic 2d series run) are better at teaching the lessons to a modern audience than the original stories. Times change and art often reflects this.
Sadly, the pendulum has swung too far the other way and we’re remaking material in a span of time that the lessons haven’t changed all that much. That’s why you can go back to pretty much all eras of film and get valuable lessons from it because the lessons all still apply. It’s just that much of a new medium.
Being hairy monster makes you not-nice automatically?
Um, yea.
sad
There's a difference between being hairy and being a hairy monster.
Generally it's the fangs and claws.
It is part of the "monster" definition.
Otherwise it is called a creature.
or she was into furries
I have to imagine there’s a meme or comic of Bella being all super excited ready to bang becoming disappointed once he transforms back into a human, but I wouldn’t know how to search for it without having to sift through piles of rule 34 to find one. I’m not brave enough.
Now that I think about it, I certainly was disappointed. He was a hot muscular beast until he turned into a cookie cutter long haired twink. Should have been a clue.
Watch the scene again. She was disappointed at least for a moment.
Now that you mention it, I wonder what that says about the shift of sexual morals. The original French tale was written in 1740.
Time's only been around since 1740?
I mean, it's a tale as old as time, so I guess that tracks
Right, Beauty, and the author's thinly veiled fetish.
I know you're kind of joking, but the story was written during a time where girls would often be married off to older men they didn't know and the story was meant as a comfort/encouragement to these young girls that he may be ugly and old and not really what you dreamed of, but maybe he turns out to be an actually kind person who can give you a good life and you can learn to love him despite his looks.
I can't be the only one who was disappointed when the beast turned into generic inbred royal twink?
Not a real man like Gaston
Gaston had years of practice sucking down liquid protein too
Noooo oooooone sucks like Gaston, no one fucks like Gaston, no one's dick's as incredibly thick as Gaston
For there's no man in town half as manly,
Perfect, a bear so-far-gone,
You can ask each of Tom, Dick and Stanley,
And they'll tell you whose top they pre-fer to be on
Gaston has topped every willing villager behind the local tavern but i have zero problem believing he still intends to marry Belle and have 12 kids. He's a hunting lodge bear but his sequel orientation is dominant. Doesn't matter who.
Jerk off before you write your comment next time.
You can't tell me what to do. You're not my mom.
So you’re saying you have a sub fetish where your mom is the Dom? Or is that mommy complex?
I'll ask her to tell you next time I come over.
Look, some of us are monster fuckers and you'll have to deal with it.
“I just wish he kept his knotted beast dick…”
https://youtu.be/y2QKDfAiTq4
I wouldn't blame Belle if she was disappointed and called it off.
Tales can be cruel:
And people underestimate big dommy furries:
This comic is neither left-right or right-left orientation and that should be punishable by death.
Idk man. When I read it it only makes sense left-right.
It's meant to be read upper left, bottom left, upper right, bottom right. So I guess that is technically still read left-right.
I guess that seam in the middle means it's originally two pages.
When I watch Mulan, I shut it off before the reveal and pretend that Mulan never gets outed. I am so thirsty for gay trans man romance :(
The reboot we deserve.
I wonder if it would be easy to do a cut of the movie so that's what happens.
That's not a fun fact, that is the entier story...
And like a million Rule 34's
TBF, the stories that Disney's been strip-mining for generations're crazy dark, originally.
I have a book of the originals that I just haven’t sat down to read yet. I need to
They're so clearly puritanical propaganda from way back that I'm consistently disappointed with modern society for slurping up Di$ney's candy-coated versions that instill 99% of the same bullshit: stay at home forever, don't defy your father/mother, royals are the magic cure-all, you're born special (the world just doesn't know it yet), etc.
Between that steady stream of insidious hopium in the communal well and Religion® still holding global sway, I honestly have very little hope we'll avoid extinction by our own hands, NGL. It's not an if, it's a when. 😄🫣😶
Can't find another source for this tweet from either Twitter or Reddit, but here's a screenshot of this tweet by Twitter user
@hiimbobbi:That's literally the universal, "Oh my God, I'm going to vomit" face.
a story about true love and monster cocks
dont kinkshame her
Y'all would be shocked after knowing the type of fantasies have girls have about beasts and all
Well knot that shocked.
😭
??? Isn't that the whole point of the story ? How is that a fun fact?
Yeah but he was rich
Didn't peg Belle for being a gold digger though.
Books were a luxury
Hey, no one said it was anything more than romantic. You don't have to fuck anything that moves.
Worse bit is when Geralt turned up
TFW no filthy rich furry bf
He was still a wealthy prince, no? If he was charming and kind on top of that, I think a lot of women wouldn't mind, even ones that aren't furries or monsterfuckers.
If I've ever watched the movie I don't recall it at all, admittedly.
Him being turned into a beast was because he was unkind.
Bro thats borderline beasteality. It is fucked up.
Meh he can consent, s'all good.
I think straight girls just can't have standards or they die alone.
Edit:
Im not saying all men are trash! Just most of them!
Queer women can die alone too; look at me!
With how common and popular female sex toys modeled after animal and fantasy creature penises, tongues etc. are this just makes sense. And having known some horse girls in my life, yeah, I'd not be surprised at all to learn many have fantasies like that. I always found the "horse/dragon/tentacle etc. dildo" thing pretty fucked up, I'm sure many of those people (and people in general) would not like it if they heard about "horse/dragon/whatever fleshlight or sexdoll for men". (Never seen or heard about that existing, but I'm sure it does).
You know a lot of men buy those bad dragon type of toys? Probably more than women…
And the same types of sites definitely sell fleshlight type of toys.
Called out to whom?
Do you just point a finger and say "ha-ha" like in Simpsons?
"that is not what I signed up for goodbye!"
I mean if your partner comes out one day and wants to transition, you can still be happy for them even if you don’t want to stay in a relationship with them. No shame there.
Did the older live action one get a new actor or did it just become Ron Pearlman without make up?
There was no curse in the tv show, he was born like that.
Maybe it is Maybeline?
He was better as the beast.
You say that as though she's the exception to the rule
Maybe it's a similar situation like here (oglaf nsfw comic):
https://www.oglaf.com/herp/
She was probably disappointed when he turned
If that happened to me, I'd be upset when they turn back into a human.
I think a lot of us already knew...
This is a plot point in one of the Witcher short stories.
Came here to share that. The beast was cursed to be a beast while raping a preistess, and eventually learned that women actually had more interest in sleeping with him as a beast than they ever did when he was human
She was probably pretty disappointed, too. Ew!
"No offense, honey, but do you think perhaps if I went back to that witch and asked real nice she could turn you back, but this time because you were good not because you were evil"
This isn't the original is it? I don't remember Belle looking like that.
Picture number six in this Amazon dvd version.
What is up with belle’s face on that cover? Holy crap.
Imho it just makes more sense to consider most Disney characters as asexual.
Goofy has a son.
Disney can't explain that away
Plus there was this whole thing:
It's weirder that Goofy - a talking dog - has a dog.
Have we ever considered if Pluto is sub who enjoys pet play? 🤔
Not only does Goofy have a son. It looks like he had two. What's never really explained is what happened to Goofy's other son, Junior, after he found out his wife was cheating on him...
You know... I've seen a lot of shit in my decades on the internet...
I was there for the tubgirl/goatse/blue waffle/lemon party College Humor invasions...
I've read the jolly rancher story, the coconut story, and others that would make some men vomit.
I've seen the Hulk getting railed by Slimer...
I was not expecting pregnant, barefoot Goofy looking like he belongs on a dakimakura today.
I only hope this doesn't awaken anything in the guy from the FBI that monitors me... Sorry Steve... The poor guy's been through a lot.
Oh garsh
100% those eyes say "I'm wet as shit rn."
"They gon fuck, sooooooooon!"
Isn't lion king 3 about their kids
The "circle of life" is a song about a sex position
Ok Nala did it.
I'm halfway sure Goody reproduced by burgeoning x)
No way. Most Disney characters are horny as hell.
She didnt sign up for some random human, if she wanted that she could have had Gaston.
shes into beastiality
Is it worth reading? I've played Witcher 3 and saw the first (sometimes good, sometimes shit) series of the show, but never read any...
All of the books are worth reading! Start with the short stories then move onto the longform books. There's also a collection of Audible rips floating around the high seas too that are quite high quality. Also for how much of a reputation the brand has for salaciousness, the books are actually quite tame most of the time, and some of the stories are clearly inspired by the same source material as many of the classic Disney princess movies.
Honestly I also thoroughly enjoyed all of the Netflix media for The Witcher too. Blood origin was a fun prequel, and the animes do a good job of giving kind an alternate approach to the series that's equally good.
M-m-m-money.