Spyke
lemmy.world

Surely he was legal to be here for the Jake Paul fight which was only 5 days ago. This is quite a shocker. And I question why any Mexican athlete would ever want to step foot in the United States after an incident like this.

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BeBopaLulareply
piefed.ca

At this point it’s they will deport you because your eyebrows look funny. No one is safe. Stay out of the states, it is a fascist shithole.

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BeBopaLulareply
piefed.ca

or they feed you to the alligators which seems to be their new toy.

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LilB0kChoyreply
midwest.social

It's entirely possible that this is because of the 3,000/day quota they were set. If they deport them rather than just let them leave then they can credit that as a 'deportation'.

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rc__buggyreply
sh.itjust.works

bruh, he's got a nicer house in LA than I'll ever have. He doesn't want to go to Mexico and face his warrants. That guy really wants to stay here

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LilB0kChoyreply
midwest.social

Are the warrants legitimate? Are any of the claims made by DHS or ICE to be trusted? This is a legitimate question because I don't follow boxing and just assume at this point that anything ICE/DHS says is lies.

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rc__buggyreply
sh.itjust.works

Yeah, apparently. Just a few hours ago Mexico had a press release saying they do have warrants for him. It's been a rumor for the entire lead up to this fight and people (including me) were wondering WTF he was thinking with the current environment here in the US and Mexico having so much trouble the past few months with cartel violence. They gonna "martyr" him.

edit: he's had a checkered past. Known to dabble in drugs to the point of needing rehab, plus court ordered rehab in the USA, multiple arrests including ghost guns, general debauchery like you might expect from a nepo baby.

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lemmy.world

So is this what's gonna happen for every deportation going forward? The "he was no angel" narrative?

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lemmy.world

That’s the Right’s MO. See also: any victim of police murder/brutality (eg:George Floyd), the people Kyle Rittenhouse murdered, any peaceful protesters who get assaulted, and so on.

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It's complicated. He's not just some worker snatched off the street. They are, of course, saying he lied on his Green Card application but I have no idea if that's true. However, he has active arrest warrants in Mexico and married a cartel widow to apply for his Green Card.

He's shady, but IMO isn't like a "threat" threat.

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lemmy.world

Nah, this one makes complete sense if there were warrants out for his arrest in Mexico. We have extradition laws with Mexico (and most every other country in the Americas). Which is why we know most of these deportations are bologna. If someone actually had a warrant out for their arrest and was arrested for anything in the U.S. they would have been flagged for extradition when their ID was taken. If we couldn't correctly ID them, then there was no way for the U.S. to suddenly claim they had charges against them in another country. Any way you put it together, the executive branch is lying.

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lemmy.world

He was standing with the president of Mexico as recently as 2 weeks ago. The idea that he had a warrant out for his arrest at that time is clearly bogus.

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lemmy.world

So Mexico is lying as well now then, that's not good. Because Mexico confirmed it from what we know right?

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lemmy.world

I've heard nothing from either government yet. Still currently accusations, no results no evidence. A lot of people connecting some dots, which are that Chavez Jr is recently married to an ex of the El Chapo family, and maybe this is meant to be some sort of example by the Trump admin for whataver reason. If you look back on Chavez Jr's history, he's basically a young rich kid in Mexico and that meant hanging out with the other young rich kids including the rich kids of crime families. Which he's now marrying an in-law of.

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lemmy.world

This shit is truly insane. He's not changed anything about his life recently besides fighting Jake Paul.

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So are you claiming mexico is lying? Or Mexico is telling the truth? Or the U.S is lying, which Mexico said was false

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I think Mexico might have a problem with orginized crime, but hey who doesn't! Certainly not america....

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sopuli.xyz

Given recent performances I think most boxing fans won't mind seeing him being escorted back across the border

Am I the only one who thinks this is unsportsmanlike to say? If someone is worth fighting against inside the ring, then they're worth fighting with outside the ring.

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habsreply
lemmy.sdf.org

Yes, that also caught me as a bizarre thing to say. Sadly low bar for sports journalism

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piefed.social

There will be a LOT of visa denials to come for the games, then if you are here the week after the games, be waylaid on the way TO the airport with your bags packed and lawyer riding shotgun or be ready to loose a few months being shipped to a country you are NOT from.

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be ready to loose a few months being shipped to a country you are NOT from

It'd be more than a few months. Once you're sitting in CECOT after some ICE agent says you kind of look like you're in a gang, Mr. Bukkake will keep you there forever. Even if you can get a court to rule that your detainment is unconstitutional, that doesn't mean anything anymore.

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Football fans would willingly go to a gulag to watch the World Cup. They went to Qatar without any hesitation. 99% of people don't take politics, human rights or morality into consideration when planning entertainment.

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Exactly.

The place is a literal tinderbox in terms of forest/brush fire risk, and its... beyond being a metaphorical tinderbox in terms of basically being a warzone...

...

In WW2, the Japanese sent mini hot air balloons up into the pacific jet stream, with rudimentary sensors, that would drop an incendiary bomb when they 'thought' they were over the US West Coast.

This didn't exactly burn down the entire West Coast, the vast majority of them failed, got blown to who the hell knows where, dropped their firebombs over the ocean, into somewhere humid, failed to detonate...

... but a few of them did actually start minor to moderate forest fires, and/or blow up on fhe ground in a curious hiker or kids face, from California up to British Columbia.

Everything is much drier and hotter now, than during WW2, and military gear, mass civil unrest... yeah, whole lotta things in that situation can potentially start an actual fire.

...

Conversely: Imagine LA in a fire scenario like last winter, started by nature or random idiots or sparking power lines, whatever, but uh now its functionally under military occupation.

They'd likely attempt to assert some kind of control over infrastructure decisions, get in the way of legitimate local govt efforts to help with the fire, who knows maybe fail to evacuate a detention center in the path of a growing fire.

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lemmy.ml

I hope they achieve that no one will ever want to come to shithole USA.

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lemmy.world

I can of course only speak for myself, but I can assure you, there's no fucking way in hell I'll ever go there.

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k0e3reply
lemmy.ca

It took me a few attempts, but i eventually got what you meant by steal fur lol

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lemmy.world

This is really fucked up but the silver lining is I didn't even know Jake Paul had had a fight.

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lemmy.ca

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security issued a statement claiming Chavez Jr has an arrest warrant back in Mexico for his alleged involvement in trafficking firearms, explosives and ammunition while he’s also being accused of being an affiliate of the Sinaloa Cartel

Assuming that any of that is true (and I guess it is as this would come from Mexico, not trump) then this is actually someone that any country would want to deport. Hell, Mexico would want to deport this piece of trash.

That is, again, if the above is correct

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You would think they would've have let him come into the country knowing all that? It's not like he crossed the Rio Grande to fight Jake Paul.

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lemmy.world

He lives in Mexico. He would have left on his own. It's unclear why ICE felt the need to get involved.

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Albbireply
lemmy.ca

Gotta use up that budget somehow!

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I’m in disbelief that someone with as much character as Jake Paul would be fraternizing with a miscreant such as that

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Also, saying this is the kind of thing that might actually get the Sinaloa Cartel to do a hit on Jake Paul.

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Alteonreply
lemmy.world

How about we stop deporting people don't like, whether they are white, brown, purple, or Jake Paul?

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spunowreply
lemmy.myserv.one

Is it ok to deport the people who baselessly deport other people?

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lemmy.ca

"I like it when my team engages in vigilanteism and ignoring the rule of law, not when the other team does it."

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The rule of law says bad people should get all the power and be untouchable so we should just let the bad people remain unfettered while we suffer to their whims

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PattyMcBreply
lemmy.world

Ok... just screw Jake Paul, then. He's a piece of shit grifter

Edit: You may want to speak in complete sentences, too.

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I think we should make an exception for Jake Paul though. CECOT his ass.

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lemmy.ml

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security issued a statement claiming Chavez Jr has an arrest warrant back in Mexico for his alleged involvement in trafficking firearms, explosives and ammunition while he’s also being accused of being an affiliate of the Sinaloa Cartel, which has been designated as a terrorist organization under President Donald Trump.

So is the Mexican government alleging that he's a member of the Sinaloa Cartel, or is the Trump admin alleging that? Because the Trump admin has a track record of making those claims without evidence as an excuse to kidnap people.

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So he recently married an ex-wife of the Sinaloa Cartel. That seems to be the whole allegation. The "lied on his paperwork" claim is that he checked the box that said he wasn't part of a cartel.

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