JD Vance sets up an account, lies about trans people, gets banned within 20 minutes, cries about it.
Vice President JD Vance’s Bluesky account was suspended within minutes of him joining the platform. His posts criticized medical treatments for transgender youth and claimed pharmaceutical influence over healthcare decisions.
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Pretty sure he did that on purpose so he can tell the public how awful and disgusting he thinks Bluesky is in the future.
Oh absolutely. He's a slimy little fuckstain.
Nah. This seems a transparent attempt to gather political good will. The Nazis have whipped our ass with their social-media ground game. This is simply another tentacle.
This isn't how you start for good will.
Por que no los dos? There's no downside for him, either he can spread his hate there and win or he gets banned and screams and whines and wins
They used to avoid the Mainstream Media, preferring their own bought and paid for Conservative Propaganda Machine, but that changed during HiterPig's first term.
Suddenly, news outlets were excited to have MAGA Nazis come on their shows to spew lies and propaganda, with no challenge. They allowed the Traitors to use their airwaves to abuse the relationship that news orgs had built with their viewers. Viewers, trusting that relationship, often believed the lies, and gave MAGA undeserved credibility.
If they were going to let those jackals in their airwaves, the news media had the responsibility to use that opportunity to challenge the lies, and expose the MAGA Nazis for the traitors they are, but the media did nothing.
Yeah, I think it's another step after the recent push of how "BlueSky is dying" because they actively reject assholes, that was going on last week.
BIG PHARMA MAKIN THE KIDS CUT THEY DICKS OFF
god republicans are stupid. So fucking stupid.
Remember, the likes of Vance aren't stupid, they know the shit they say isn't real but it riles their base up and creates enough anger that their base will ignore all the shit the republicans get up to.
More than that, it causes a knee jerk reaction from many liberals as well, and they end up defending a practice that is relevant to about 1% of voters, and isn't that important to a very significant number of voters. So Ds waste a LOT of time defending a subject that isn't very important to most people, instead of the issues they should be focused on, which will attract voters, like Medicare 4 All, or Student Loan Reform, etc.
The hormones used are basically all generics too
Yeah, Big Pharma is happy to fuck me in lots of ways, but the $20/month (without insurance even!) on my T shots ain’t it.
I always hated when I went to the school nurse for a bruised knee and got estrogen instead of having the bruise disinfected
My parents got really mad the day I came home as a girl. They were pissed! Made me go back to school the next day and get my penis re-installed.
Maybe your school nurse should swing by D.C. and reinstall some backbones.
That's would be a fresh install, lots of structural work needs to be done so they don't disappear.
But big religion doing it is OK, it’s just the tip.
Do you think JD understands the irony that posting an exerpt from Justice Thomas that is against appealing to the authority of "experts", is, in itself, in fact appealing to the authority of an "expert", Justice Thomas, to support his stance? His stance of course being that medical treatment of minors with gender dysphoria in a way that does anything but reinforce the gender on their birth certificate is bad medicine/science. And both Vance and Justice Thomas also, being... I see here "not experts in anything remotely to do with medical science, gender dysphoria, adolescent development, or any field at all that would inform any semblance of a valid opinion on the matter of how to properly treat these kids medically" might, in fact, make their stance a little bit non-authoritative. Maybe both of them should stay in their lanes of bad faith partisan political theatre, bribery, and forcing the sprint we are all on towards fascism. That seems to be where their real skill sets are.
I'mma stop you right there and say no
it's not even factually accurate since the majority of medical organizations agree there's no harm in transitioning.
But what about the harm done to some other random dude who might find "a man in a dress" attractive and now questions his sexuality which is against God's will?
/s
What about when a uh.. random dude.. finds a trans person attractive and likes what it does to his concept of self and sees it being "against god's will" a bonus
asking for a friend
Then you get to be a good ally/person.
Thanks. Silly but that came in at a fortunate time
Those are the ones they are putting air quotes around as "experts" because they disagree with them, and therefore must be crackpots.
Vance isn’t talking to us. He’s talking to his supporters.
In their world, scientists are icky, and therefore can’t be trusted by red-blooded conservatives. Clarence Thomas, however, is GOP Approved.
Vance is somewhat of an expert on gender and sexuality though, being the cough fucker he is...
it's going well.
also lol'ing at the fact that he's jd-vance-1 because jd-vance was taken by a parody account which has a big banner reading "I did not fuck a couch".
fyi he didn't get banned; https://bsky.app/profile/jd-vance-1.bsky.social
i do recommend this moderation list as he's already on it: https://bsky.app/profile/randomvariable.co.uk/lists/3kc2e7efqqw2k
I wonder if he was mass reported and temporarily automod banned
i assume that or they banned him before they confirmed it was him
He could join one of the Nazi mastodon instances, although I bet he is already on his boss’.
I heard somewhere truthsocial is a fork of mastodon but has no federation built in
Both Truth and Gab are running on mastodon, yes. Truth doesn't federate, Gab was retaliatory blocked across the fediverse
even stupider, i believe it's a horrible out of date fork of mastodon that's insecure as fuck
then its only a matter of time before they get done to them what those trans hackers did to Andrew Tates social media a few months ago. I think they were trans, idk all I remember about the attack is that they flooded all the chatrooms on it with trans flag emojis and leaked all the user data
ah great now mastodon is gonna get banned like tiktok
Insecure? You mean about the tiny hands? Remember that?
GUYS! I'M BRINGING BACK THE CLASSICS!
I mean, why go there when X is already the nazi twitter.
That’s exactly why it was doomed to failure the moment Elon was forced to complete his purchase of Twitter.
You're likely thinking of Mastodon.social, where they call any opposition to genocide & war antisemitic & ban you.
whats bad about mastodon.social? aren't all instances the same with some catering to niches similar to lemmy communities? i genuinely do not know anything about politics and would like to be corrected.
Mastodon.social is the original server operated by the official Mastodon gGmbH (German) non-profit, the same group behind the development of Mastodon itself. It has the largest community of users, and has regularly been censoring pro-Palestine & anti-genocide content, banning those accounts.
It has been argued by some that because they are located in Germany, that there are a lot of legal "gray" areas that force them to do it. However, it doesn't explain why they outright ban the accounts. I said, what "Israel is basically no different than Nazi Germany at this point." That resulted in my account getting banned there, while they claimed my statement was antisemitic & Holocaust inversion. Notice however, I never said anything about the Holocaust or Jews. They regularly do this & ban accounts, claiming criticism of Israel is antismetic.
oh damn, thats the instance i use rn. any other alternative instances that dont censor?
He should join one of the tankie Lemmy instances for a real choice treatment. That would be fun for to watch for 5 minutes
What we would give for that
I'd pay so much money to see JD get 1v1000 dogpiled by tankies on any topic. It might be one of the few times i'd be on their side.
They'd just split. There are trans rights deniers there, like that one admin/dev. Some are closer to MAGA than Marx in their allegiances.
Is Justice Thomas a doctor or a scientist? No?
Then who gives a shit what his opinion is. He should be listening to the experts...not contradicting them. If his ruling is based solely on his personal feelings on this topic, then he needs to recuse himself from this case.
This looks like some good sealioning. He probably didn’t write it himself. I think he was playing to his fans and trying to discredit Bluesky and its community guidelines. I wonder if Musk paid him, or if he did this on his own.
Damn, didn't even touch my coffee and already learning something today https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
Sea lions SUCK
Did... Did the word get invented because of a meme that has nothing to do with sea lions? Language is amazing.
It does have to do with sea lions?
It's that all the way down. For multiple centuries the word for gay women in multiple languages has been the demonym of a small island in Greece because their most famous resident was a queer poet in antiquity.
The word "guy" as a common noun comes from the proper noun (fun fact Julius Caesar was a Guy, well, a Gaius) because someone with that name tried to kill parliament and language is weird
I would like to have a civil conversation about your statement.
The account is back. I reported it for misinformation and lying.
Remember when Twitter - even before leon bought it - decided Trump was too important to ban, even tho he was violating the shit out of their TOS...
Does the PBC that owns BlueSky have an official stance on whether political officials can be "too big to ban?"
What a pos. nobody is "pushing" these medicines on kids. it's ultimately the kid's decision about whether they want these medications or not and I'm not aware of any cases to the contrary. also these medications have been used for literal decades so how can they be experimental? how do you expect people to trust you when you lie so blatantly? glad he got banned.
Happy Pride Month ❤️
Honest answer: the drugs are being used off-label. It's not even experimental, it's basically a wildcat way of using them. An experiment would involve control groups and a double-blind trial, among other things.
I'm saying this because this is what rightoids are saying as criticism and you need to be able to counter that with facts. Right now, there just isn't enough information and that's what they're capitalizing on.
40 years of using hormone blockers for precocious puberty. "Not enough info." Fuck the whole way off.
No. The data is fine. It doesn't need to be perfect.
This is the exact opposite of what the reports out of the UK, Netherlands, Sweden, etc. are saying. They're all very seriously restricting their youth transitioning clinics because the quality of the available data is so poor it cannot be relied on. Beyond the replicability crisis, there are ideological actors on both sides making absolutely junk studies.
Hence the need for proper experimental data.
What's the regret rate for gender affirming care?
Yet they don't revoke the use of puberty blockers for cis children with precocious puberty, they only are concerned about the lack of data for trans kids - it's motivated by transphobia, not actual clinical concerns.
Trans kids aren't having poor outcomes from gender affirming care, quite the opposite actually - and the "we don't have enough data" argument is a false concern used to plausibly deny a more than sufficiently demonstrated clinically safe and effective treatment.
EDIT: might be interested in reading: https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/
We should be clear, the medical establishment is not woke (quite the contrary, actually) nor is every single major medical association recommending gender affirming care for trans youth on ideological grounds or because they have been forced to by some LGBT+ lobbying, but because the evidence we have points to that care being life saving and effective while also being low risk and in the case of puberty blockers even reversible.
EDIT2: you should also know the Cass Review has been found to be biased in its recommendations, e.g. this demand for high evidence in the case of trans care but not other areas of care have been pointed out as motivated by prejudice, might be worth reading more about the criticisms of the Cass Review:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Review#Reception_by_academics_and_researchers
Forcing trans kids to undergo the wrong puberty under the demands double-blind trials is as wrong as forcing a cis child to undergo the wrong puberty for the same purpose (like David Reimer was forced to), it's an unreasonable expectation given the clinical context of the treatment being so low risk and the outcomes being so positive.
I want the strongest possible set of information for this and any other question so we can make informed decisions. Right now there are more questions than answers.
It's just like intelligent design and the "god of the gaps" arguments, where the space God/gods could have done their work slowly shrinks as our understanding of the world around us improves. I have no clue if we'll ever close all the gaps, but every time intelligent design takes a hit, more people jump ship.
He’s not wrong about medical companies influencing patient care. He’s just wrong about who and why.
"Anyway, want a 6 months supply of Vicodin?" -The doctors he should actually be worried about.
Why? They pay him.
Sorry, I meant should as in if he actually gave a shit about what he pretends to give a shit about as a preface to target trans people.
Okay but we all know these fuckers believe in nothing.
If you don't get that by now, you're determined to not.
I...I'm fully aware. Thought that was pretty obvious from my last response...
( It was. )
So gotchas about it seem kinda... I dunno, a few steps behind?
Yeah, you've completely lost me. What do you mean by gotchas?
Exactly. Why would they give patients long out of patent meds that aren't even habit forming for this? Nah, if you want to make money with medicine you gotta go the Sackler route. Every trans person I know's HRT brand of choice is "generic please"
Not only that, but targeting the ~20% of the population that's post-menopausal cis women with all the benefits of HRT would be a WAY bigger market than the 1-5% of the population that might be trans. If it was about making money on HRT, they're certainly not going for a very large market.
Not only that, but wouldn't Big Pharma™ be lobbying heavily against all the anti-trans healthcare bills? Seems like they're doing a pretty awful job of maintaining their market.
They think their movement is beating pharma as their uncle forgets to breathe in the other room
Imagine thinking that one Clarence Thomas is less corrupt than thousands of doctors.
Coming from Vance, I like how the logic underlying the statements presumes a profit motive undermines the result.
his account is still active. just checked. this post is also still up.
Apparently, they reinstated it saying they just wanted to confirm it was really him before fully activating it.
Corpos will never let you down. Only throw you there.
I was generally curious why posting that would get him banned. It's def contrary to popular opinions on the platform but doesn't violate any rules.
"hello fellow humans, im trying to communicate with humanity"- JD vance.
James Donald Bowman is a disgrace, a pox on humanity.
And I will use the name he hates against him in every thread I can.
Did he make up the Vance part ?
First his mom changed his name:
But his mother was a drug addict so he was raised by his grandparents:
He changed his name before graduation.
Quite a joke that he changed his name from an abusive prick called Donald, only to cuck for another abusive bastard called Donald later in life.
This. I knew the Dems didn't give a shit about people like me not only because they tried to sell us out after the election... but because BERORE the election no one tried deadnaming Bowman
Isn't he happy with his Truth Social account?
You can't Own The Libs from over there
So, here we are. The VP of the supposedly most powerful nation can't even integrate with humans.
We knew this before the election.
Isn't Truth Social available for people like him?
Talking about the highlighted part of Thomas's statement. They're enshrining anti-intellectualism into court rulings
The biggest delusion in modern society is thinking that a Twitter-like social media network is "the place to go for common sense political discussion and analysis".
I keep hearing the media repeat this bullshit. Twitter is not and never was the "public square". It's a place for morons to be morons and heart each other for being morons.
It's like having an argument in a club but in the club people may reconsider what you had to say upon sobering up
Makes me wonder if the actual public squares, sans idealization, were also a place for morons to be morons and heart each other for being morons.
The account was banned, and then reinstated after being verified.
His first posts didn't get him banned.
It probably didn't do any favours opening up immediately with obvious troll bait.
Stay classy, MAGA. You don't give two shits about your country, you actually did steal an election, and the backwash is coming.
Did they steal an election ? Or did they still two elections ?
Those posts read like chatgpt.
Simple hack for a turing test:
Cut all the humanity out of a person.
"Bad arguments and substandard science" - AKA, this administration's unofficial motto.
Every accusation is an admission.
Make a new account, immediately start spewing unsubstantiated conspiracy theories, get banned
I gotta say, I am liking blue sky so far
Says can’t trust experts because they are clouded by ideology and bribed by industry quotes an judicial expert who’s entire job is to inject right wing ideology into the judicial branch while being motivated by bribes.
And this is the point where he playbooks "i was just asking questions i was just being reasonable why are you so mean unreasonable leftist echo chamber etcetc"
Which only works when people let it. A swift "you started ranting crazy bullshit" is what is needed here.
Good. Fuck that guy.
no thanks.
he's got a face only a couch could fuck.
I know several brick walls that would love to fuck his face.
He should make a tumblr account. Tumblr admins are happy for people to post death threats against trans people and wishes for genocide, but ban trans people for calling out transphobic pseudoscience and Holocaust denial.
Oh so the reason I can't post on Reddit anymore.
I'm paranoid Discord will begin a banning spree next
I'm already seeing reminders on bluesky to JUST block and ignore them. The right wingers who tried invading Bluesky earlier got bored and left cause they all got blocked.
I hope his dick rots off, just so he can get to experience gender-affirming care firsthand.
Think you're in trouble now? Wait until Trump expires and the real monster shows his "hillbilly ugly" face.
Waiting for him to cave to peer pressure and start doing bumps of Ket off a Twitter influencer's ass with his Peter Thiel approved best friend.
The thing with his argument is that I just struggle to imagine a scenario in which the experts and affected agree and we're better off listening to judges, lawyers, and politicians instead.
There's no reasonable argument from the avenues I'd listen to those groups (such as appeal to fundamental freedoms, rights of the individual, etc) where the position should be to bar these people from receiving treatment they want against expert recommendations.
In short, Mr Vance demonstrates the intellectual rigor I've come to associate with the denizens of Middletown Ohio, and the firm belief in one's own right to be the arbiter of everyone else's life I've come to associate with his ivy league education and tech background.
This is a man who argued with the pope about catholic doctrine a few years after converting and I honestly can't make up something more exaggerated than that
Stupid shit has no rightful place in normal society
Hahah I'm enjoy the image of him trying to sign up and finding out his names already taken, having to add underscores and finally attempting it with a number as well.
jUsT AsKIng QuEStIoNs
That is one stupid sonofabitch.
He isn't banned, takes just a second to check.
It was banned, but reinstated after they verified it wasn't a random troll and was indeed the actual troll, JD Vance himself.
How does banning work on bluesky? Is it instance based or network wide.
If I had to be my-name-1 I'd probably just quit out of embarrassment
good fuck him
As he said, it is a place for common sense discussion. Which just happens to be no place for him and his ilk.
I still can't believe that a deranged asshole like him is legally allowed to be VP of a nuclear power
Honestly just let people have their own opinion as long as they don't really fight. Remember that your opinions were suppressed in the past and that now you're basically becoming exactly what the governments were at the time.
On the matter of access to such medication for kids, hell no. Everyone knows kids aren't mature adults and they make stupid decisions. Some may try it because of curiosity, lack of knowledge or even as an act of rebellion against parents/guardians. And that will result at least in loss of fertility. Where did the "adults should protect children" go? Are we only protecting them from predators now? Then might as well let them drink alcohol and buy antipsychotics without prescription.
Btw a mandatory medical examination and a lecture from the doctor about the risks would be nice before making such a decision. Privacy concerns are there but physical safety first imo.
All of the above is obviously my personal opinions.
What did he lie about? (Not on Blue sky and don't plan to be)
Public forums should not be censored. We're trying to have a democracy here.
Fascists should be hunted like dogs, but that is apparently uncivil, unlike letting them do as they please and ruin everything and kidnap randos to death camp torture prisons. Which is i guess the height of civility.
So while i agree, censoring them is the compromise.
The problem obviously, is who is making that decision. Often the censors are the fascists. Think, mcfly
One of many reasons why killing them is the better option!
And until there is an actual free online forum that no single entity pays to host, private companies can do whatever the fuck they want.
Worship the monopoly
He was suspended to ensure it was really him, once they confirmed they reinstated the account.