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'Something much much bigger': Ex-Trump insider warns of 'chilling' new plan

Ex-Trump insider Lev Parnas over the weekend noted the situation surrounding the Los Angeles protests, saying "the clock is ticking" as Trump has "troops in the streets, tanks on standby, and plans to crush the resistance."

"I know a lot of you woke up this morning in shock—staring at the footage out of Los Angeles, asking yourselves: How could this happen? Is this real? Is this really happening in the United States of America? But let me be clear, folks—this is real. It is happening. And I need you to know that my sources deep inside Trump World have been warning me that what we witnessed overnight was no isolated event. It’s part of something much bigger. And what I have to tell you today is chilling," he wrote.

"Yesterday, when Donald Trump deployed over 2,000 federal troops into Los Angeles under the justification of 'restoring order,' most headlines ran with it like it was some isolated act of retaliation—just another example of Trump punishing blue states. And yes, part of this is personal. Make no mistake: this is revenge against California, against Governor Gavin Newsom, and against Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass. But it’s not just about settling scores."

According to Parnas, in reality, "This is about control."

"What happened yesterday in Los Angeles was a test run—a dry rehearsal for something much, much bigger. I’ve been hearing from multiple trusted insiders that Trump’s inner circle—particularly Pete Hegseth and some of the more radicalized loyalists embedded at the Pentagon—are actively drafting operational plans for the mass mobilizations expected on June 14th," he added. "This isn’t just about Trump’s birthday. This isn’t just about another vanity parade. This is about shutting down resistance."

Parnas added that Trump "fears the American people rising up on June 14th, in all 50 states, with signs that say No Kings—with voices that remind the world that we are still a democracy."

"That’s why he’s pushing for tanks. That’s why he wants the biggest military display America has seen since the Cold War. Because he wants the optics of power. He wants to smother the story before it even begins. He wants his parade to dominate the headlines, not the marchers in the streets fighting for democracy," he said. "But I need you to understand this: According to my sources, there are discussions happening right now—within Trump’s most trusted circle—about invoking martial law if the protests 'get out of hand.' They’re looking for any excuse. Any video. Any act of violence. Any disruption. That’s all they need to justify a crackdown."

He then warned people not to fall for a trap being set by Trump associates.

"And it gets worse. What I’m being told is that Trump allies—including elements connected to Proud Boys, III Percenters, and other far-right militia networks—are planning to infiltrate the June 14th protests. Not to support them. To sabotage them. Their goal? Create chaos. Spark confrontation. Trigger a response from law enforcement. And then hand Trump the justification he needs to clamp down," Parnas wrote. "Let me say this loud and clear: We cannot give them that excuse."

Parnas went on to encourage peace, and told protesters to "stay vigilant."

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I know a lot of you woke up this morning in shock—staring at the footage out of Los Angeles, asking yourselves: How could this happen? Is this real? Is this really happening in the United States of America?

It’s almost like all those annoying people who tried to warn other Americans that Trump was a dangerous person seeking absolute power were right the whole time. Trump Derangement Syndrome exists, but the symptoms were badly described: I propose that the new definition of TDS should be the delusional belief that the US (and the world) is safe while Trump and his inner circle still live.

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lemmy.world

It's funny how all of those voices that talked about jack booted thugs breaking down doors and then needing their 2nd amendment rights to protect themselves are so quiet now. I guess racism trumps all that.

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Carmakazireply
lemmy.world

They were always worried about people threatening their ability to be racist, violent, Christofascist freaks, not about actual injustices.

Incidentally, the "shall not be infringed" reading of the 2nd only really gained popularity around the same time of desegregation.

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andros_rexreply
lemmy.world

California’s gun restrictions happened when the Black Panthers tried to argue that 2A applied to them too. 2A has always only applied to certain kinds of people.

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Hey now, there are liberal gun owners (hi) who saw this shit coming for the last 20 years. I’m damn glad the 2A is around right now. We’re gonna need it.

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lemmy.world

Our leaders would burn down the country as long as they get to be kings of the ash.

We all know what stops fascists.

Historically, they usually leave power a specific way.

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lemmy.world

We’re not stopping them peacefully or violently with 1.5% of our nation in protest. Violent resistance at this size will only reduce our numbers.

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Bruh, the false black and white thinking of America is really infectious isn't it.

There's a lot of middle ground, and it doesn't have to come all at once. It takes organizing and training. They're not saying we can't resist, just that we have to build it to do so effectively.

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lemm.ee

That's why Trump distanced himself from and actively pissed off international allies while siding with dictators. This is why Trump has sunk the economy to promote only that of his insiders. This is the context under which Trump is considering taking over Canada and Greenland while pulling out of NATO. He has been promised a kingdom and he doesn't care how much worse off the country it is as a result of it because he only cares about being a malignant narcissist, just like the people propping him up.

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Mirshereply
lemmy.world

It's sort of Francoist: "I'll kill half the country to satisfy my own ego".

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lemmy.world

We do not have the military power to kill half of our population beyond nukes. They don’t have the numbers to maintain control except in illusion. The fourteenth will be a staunch reminder to Trump that this is a hell of a large country, he cannot control it with force, and that tank parades don’t mean a goddamn thing except to egomaniacs.

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Mirshereply
lemmy.world

We absolutely have the ability to kill half the population if you're not too picky about targeting and happy to rule through the idea of death from above rather than soldiers on the street in Mayberry. This also doesn't account for police complicity, and the fact that there's an alarming amount of right wingers who seem rather elated by the idea of potentially killing their liberal/leftists relatives, coworkers, classmates and neighbors.

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lemm.ee

Active duty military here. You're out of your mind if you think there won't immediately be a coup if that order gets passed.

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blazeknavereply
lemmy.world

What % of your colleagues do you estimate agree with your perspective? Do y'all talk about it at all?

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The military is far more diverse politically than you think, and the higher up in the chain you go it gets noticeably more progressive.

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In my division, everyone unanimously agrees that the administration is absolutely stupid and indefensible. Of those, every last one would outright defy any order to "kill half the population". We talk about it all the time - including with my Chief. ~60% of the officers I speak to also believe that the administration is conducting unlawful actions, and about 70% believe the administration is engaging in actions harmful to the socioeconomic and geopolitical standing of the USA. >80% of the enlisted personnel in other divisions at my command likewise agree that the administration is making stupid and indefensible decisions, and all of them would outright defy any order to "kill half the population".

Any other questions, civilian?

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discuss.online

If this shocked you then you are a fucking willfully ignorant asshole. And/or voted for the Orange Jackass.

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Yeah, I knew this was where we were headed on the evening of Nov. 6th, as did a lot of other people. Fascism follows a predictable pattern.

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According to my sources, there are discussions happening right now—within Trump’s most trusted circle—about invoking martial law if the protests 'get out of hand.'

No shit.

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They don't need excuses, the Regime will just manufacture one.

What we should do is develop mutual aid and federate factions together. Black Panthers should escort peaceful protestors, and peaceful protestors should render medical assistance, supplies, and shelter to those who must engage in conflict. Peaceful protest and violent resistance are the anvil and hammer of democracy.

By trying to prevent people from considering violence, the hammer of reform is stolen from us. We shouldn't allow this to happen, as it serves the interests of those who want to oppress us.

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lemmy.world

Lev Parnas[a] (born February 6, 1972)[1] is a Soviet-born American businessman and former associate of Rudy Giuliani. Parnas, Giuliani, Igor Fruman, John Solomon, Yuriy Lutsenko, Dmytro Firtash and his allies, Victoria Toensing and Joe diGenova, were involved in creating the false Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory, which is part of the Trump–Ukraine scandal's efforts to damage Joe Biden.[2][3][4][5] As president, Donald Trump said he did not know Parnas nor what he was involved in; Parnas insisted Trump "knew exactly what was going on".[6][7]

In October 2021, Parnas was found guilty in U.S. Federal Court on six counts related to illegal donations to the 2020 campaign of Donald Trump.[8] He was sentenced to 20 months in prison, three years of supervised release and $2,322,500 in restitution on June 29, 2022.[9]

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lemmy.world

Yup. He was on Trump’s team until he saw him with the mask off. He’s been disclosing Trump’s inner circle plays since he left. His son is Aaron Parnas, of Meidas Touch network and now his own platform.

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blazeknavereply
lemmy.world

Astroturfed how? I'm constantly suspicious of bias and trying not to trust any YouTuber so asking in good faith

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They try and present as left wing/ progressive/ alternative media, but they exclusively give voice to "centrist" / diet-Republican viewpoints.

Pay attention to who the platform. Its all either corporate Democrats or Republicans. Is the presentation and pageantry of a grassroots enterprise while exclusively platforming establishment views.

That being said, I think when they stay in their lane, which is specifically issues related to the Justice department, court cases, the Supreme Court, they are excellent. They have incredible access and have demonstrated themselves to be great journalists in this regard.

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pulsewidthreply
lemmy.world

Refuting irrefutable evidence is their bread and butter.

Jan 6th?? Livestreamed attempted coup, recorded at a hundred different angles. With a thousand different people saying "I'm doing a coup". Mock gallows. Mobs of terrorist traitors shouting "hang Mike Pence!","hang Nancy Pelosi!". Carrying guns, knives, handcuffs and cablecuffs. Multiple bombs placed (still unsolved). Smashing into government offices, beating and killing cops.

"It's overblown. It's deepfakes. They're crisis actors. It's a false flag by Antifa... Ok so they're MAGA but it was just a peaceful protest... OK so it happened and was violent but so what, it was justified. They're being prosecuted for being pro-Trump, not for breaking the law. This is all the deep state! .. Trump should pardon them... Trump pardoned them. Nothing was done wrong and there's proof"

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Project 2025 is pretty fucking bad as is. But Trump wants a military state.

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From wikipedia:

Lev Parnas is a former associate of Rudy Giuliani who was involved in the Trump–Ukraine scandal and the Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory. He was convicted of illegal donations to Trump's campaign and sentenced to 20 months in prison in 2022.

In 2019, Parnas served as a translator for a legal case involving Dmytro Firtash, a Ukrainian oligarch with close ties to the Kremlin and self-admitted Russian mob connections, who is fighting extradition to the U.S. to face bribery charges. Firtash has been free on bail in Vienna since 2014.

Strikes me as somebody who has a vested interest in adding more fuel to the fire. Either way this is scary and fucked.

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anomnomreply
sh.itjust.works

I don’t really see how that is enough to trust this source.

Lev’s statement can also be read as a way to suppress turnout at the protests by trying to convince us it’s going to be laced with undetectable oath keepers/etc. Even though then somehow the military will have to know not to kill the pretend protesters when they squash the protests that get violent?

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That’s fair. Then don’t trust it. I don’t implicitly trust any source but my own experience, and even that is flawed.

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"chilling" "new". I'm sorry. Where the fuck am I supposed to get media these days that's ahead of the general populace?

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Oh, definitely protest. Just stay non-violent and record all of the unprovoked use of unnecessary force. Like this:

ICE hit and run
https://files.catbox.moe/ykdo17.mov

LAPD tramples civilian with horse
https://files.catbox.moe/oowzj4.mp4

LAPD damage their own cruiser
https://files.catbox.moe/01bkj4.mov

Reporters attacked by LAPD
1.https://files.catbox.moe/yhvagw.mp4
2.https://files.catbox.moe/zpycx3.mp4
3.https://files.catbox.moe/rcez2o.mp4

LAPD refuses aid to civilian with head wound from rubber bullet
https://files.catbox.moe/6u8wlt.mp4

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lemmy.world

Fuck no we didnt. We've walked into this with clear and open eyes all the way. Anyone who's surprised right now has utterly fucking failed in their duty as a citizen. That's not going to apply to most people here, but all those fuckers that stayed home during the election were told this was coming. They. Didn't. Care.

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lemmy.world

Agreed. This was the most advertised and televised election in US history. The 90M people who sat out made a choice to do so.

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lemmy.world

Do you really think that an election would have prevented this man? This has been a concerted effort by a hostile enemy who has infiltrated the deepest levels of every American government branch, working towards this point for over 4 decades. The cops have been taken over by nazi gangs, and the FBI has known since the 90s. The heritage foundation has been funding and grooming judges with this express purpose, and laws and regulations have been being erroded this whole time in preparation. Just voting for the right guy would not have stopped any of this, esspetially when no party has been resisting any of this, with politicians at best calling for "unity". I know how tempting the thought is to blame other workers, it's what we've been taught to do and avoiding the real enemy makes us think we can avoid the horrific truth that there is no one coming to save us, and those we thought were there to protect us were stabbing us in the back the whole time. Not to mention their firepower. But you can't fall prey to that thought. Use this as a time to realize there is no war but class war.

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🤔🤔🤔fascist POS doing fascist shit 🤔🤔🤔

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lemm.ee

Does Parnas really have any connections left on the inside?

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lemmy.world

Seems like it. He posted about Putin’s offer to give Musk asylum before it was offered by Medvedev on Xitter.

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Tyranny cannot thrive in peace. It needs conflict, even if the conflict is manufactured.

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lemmy.today

How about little protests every day instead of big one? Or maybe let them come out on the 14th lol just them. Then protest the rest of the week.

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I've heard of places organizing many small protests, like a few hundred people, in many nearby neighborhoods. It forces the police to spread out too much to be effective.

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I love the idea of them wasting all of those resources, but we need the 14th to be as big as possible. Protests are the best way to chat up less informed and newly engaged people, share communication resources, and generate awareness through unity.

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I think we need one of two things: huge protests involving millions of people that can't possibly be policed or dozens of protests across a city so forces are stretched thin.

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Remember, law enforcement is directly responsible for almost all violence that coincides with protests. The cops will send the entire police force down to harass the protesters. Every pig is a psycho that deep down just wants to beat on some innocent people. So no cop wants to turn down a chance to beat down some peaceful protesters.

With all the cops attending the protest, the rest of the city is now undefended. Looters take advantage of this. Rob a store while all the cops are busy harassing protesters. Police love this as it gives more excuses to increase their budget.

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Not really, Q posts were unhinged and weirdly cryptic. Trump and co have said stuff like this before. Its not even far fetched.

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lemmy.ca

What if everyone stayed home on June 14. Just a chill day at home and rump rolling down the streets with only his brain dead followers. No optics no happy.

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Nougatreply
fedia.io

Kicking the can down the road isn't going to work. The only way out of this is through, and the sooner we get into the shit, the sooner we'll be out of it.

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lemmy.ca

I was not saying kick the can down the road. I was saying it for this specific date because it’s his birthday and it’ll piss him off. He is all about optics, and if he has no optics, he’ll lose it.

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NABDadreply
lemmy.world

If the people who stand against him stay home and stay quiet, then to him it looks like everyone is on his side.

You can't just have "no optics". If protestors aren't there, then it means no one objected.

We need to show him that we don't support his dictatorship.

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I am still not convinced. As everyone knows rump loves his attention. rump also hates his followers. If all the decent folks stayed at home and then only all the magats would be there and due to their nature, they would all start fighting with each other. Then the following day, you blitz news with see, decent folk don’t care about rump and did not go. I feel this would damage rump greatly as he is so fragile. I may also be senile and it’s a dumb idea.

Edit it would also deny what rump wants. An altercation to start the shooting. Would also keep the violence contained to the magats infighting.

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