I switched to Linux (not arch btw) around the same time as joining Lemmy. And I've still not seen any trek apart from a couple of the movies, which I quite liked. We're contemplating starting at the very start
Starting from the beginning is the absolute best, in my opinion. The original series is so much fun, and as much as I love TNG and others, I know that nothing will come close to the cultural impact that the original had. It was prime time, mainstream, and riding the energy that the country had for space in the 1960s, with a message of hope and cooperation. That being said, prepare for a decent mix of goofiness too, lol.
nothing will come close to the cultural impact that the original had.
That's part of the reason why I probably wouldn't recommend old trek first to somebody. We don't have the benefit of being able to go back to the cultural moment of the '60s Trek.
I compare it to how Wizard of Oz is a great movie, but you can't really experience the transition to color that happened in the movie the same way someone in 1939 did. Plenty of TV shows were still in black and white all the way into the '60s.
There is some really terrible original Trek, whose only defense is being a product of the time. That said, you will still see the first interracial kiss on broadcast TV. The first season of The Next Generation is pretty stilted, but is still decent in my opinion. And, as is the overarching theme for Trek, questions about who, what, and why we are will be asked, and sometimes answers will be proposed.
The Gorn was laughable, but in SNW they are legitimately terrifying. The fact that every series has ties and often callbacks to others in the timeline is one of my favorite things about Trek, like Doctor Who it’s been going for decades but every part of the history is fodder for more exploration. DS9s Tribble episode is a great example, editing Sisko and Dax in behind Kirk and Spock
Yeah, the Gorn were so ridiculous, but also gave rise to Rock Paper Scissors Lizard Spock. The Tribbles were also ridiculous, but so fun, and a great nostalgic nod to TOS in DS9.
OG star Trek is a product of it's time. While revolutionary and a great source of solid sci Fi, it's also got the old tv style to it. Extremely long pauses, close ups forever, agonizingly long just to get out one line then repeat.
Would recommend... After you've watched a more modern star Trek :)
TNG is a favorite for a good reason. Maybe from season 3 on to start. It's also going to seem extremely slow / no music compared to modern TV. But it's overall quality shit.
I've just skipped around episodes in Next Generation, DS9 and Voyager but I love most of it.
Homefront and Paradise Lost might be some of the best television I've ever seen. The fact that those episodes came out before 9/11 might be the craziest piece of foreshadowing I've ever seen.
I have considered not only figuring out how to setup Linux on my computer but also considered starting to watch Star Trek. It's been almost a year since I've been on Lemmy and I haven't caved yet.... But my time may be coming soon.....
Ah leftist infighting goes all the way back to the French Revolution in fairness but... Yeah I can't disagree. Like I'm a male shiny white western Linux user who loves Star Trek.
I'm like those lads you see in cargo shorts and sandals on holiday. FML.
That very post highlights that that confirmation is only if you stream the stuff Plex streams. If you use it for your own library as most do, then it’s a non issue.
Jellyfin < Plex. No matter how you try and spin it. Just on ease of remote access and the UI alone
I look at it in the reverse. I want this platform to stream at home. If it's a pain to use at home without internt then it's lost the plot. I'd setup Plex with the trusted local network in the config file and all of that, but then I still have reconfigure my clients and then they all get admin access so all my parental controls are gone. Jellyfin and Emby get this right and Plex does not, so I dropped Plex. I ended up on Em by instead of Jelly because Direct Play/Stream just wasn't really working for me in Jelly (that may well have been due to my hosting on a Synology NAS).
I’m in the same situation as you- I have a Synology NAS and I want to set up some sort of streaming for my old home movies. I would like to be able to view on mobile and at home. Is Emby possibly a better option than JellyFin for that scenario? I wasn’t even aware of them.
Overall I do like Emby more than JellyFin. Emby is commercial, like Plex. I believe the client applications (ie everything but the web) needs a licensed server but they have a free trial period. There is a remote option
And they have a service they call Connect intended to simplify the remote access.
Caveat, I've not really used the remote capabilities at all, I can't speak to how it compares to Plex's. I have streamed remotely through a VPN connection, rather than setting up public access. But only once or twice, and mostly to test the VPN rather than for the purpose of streaming.
The first point is valid, but it only applies to you as the server admin and not the remote users. And honestly it was stuff worth learning for me, as somebody who is not on the IT/web end of things.
But the UI being janky? I don't know about that. Static images of the screens may look better to you on the Plex side, and that's just preference. But when it comes to lag, hitching, did that click register, having the server scan the media library, and just about every other performance thing I can think of, Jellyfin seems SO much better to me.
And that's why I do Emby instead. Cloud connections are not that difficult to setup, though not as streamlined as Plex. However, I refuse to go back to Plex because of some serious privacy concerns from the last couple years. I have had a lifetime membership with them since like 2014 and it was great for a long time, but I don't need it tracking activity of my friends.
Interesting. I switched to jellyfin from Plex because the Plex interface was fucking terrible after the redesigned it and jellyfin was so much better even when unfinished.
Setting up remote access for Jellyfin felt pretty trivial for me like 2 years ago when switching away from Plex. No hiccups that I can recall whatsoever. Except for maybe the nginx reverse proxy configuration, but the documentation made it decently straightforward, but that step isn't strictly necessary to get remote access working; that was just something I wanted for my particular setup.
And I wouldn't call the Jellyfin UI janky at all. I use it every day and can't think of any common issues I encounter when using it. There surely are quirks with some features, but I find them few and far between. I recall Plex having its own UI quirks back when I used it.
My kid installed Arch once upon a time. I was impressed and pleased with him, but also thinking that was way more work than I wanted to do to not use Windows. So I bought a Steam Deck.
Take the most popular (for now) distro in Ubuntu, remove the proprietary Canonical stuff that makes people say eww, and give the UI some polish and you basically have Linux Mint. And if you REALLY want to reject Ubuntu in its entirety, they do have LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition).
It's half the reason everyone treats Janeway as a criminal. Like yeah overall she's a fantastic captain. But she did straight up murder tuvix! He begged for life!
If it's any help, that show is a hot mess. There are some absolute banger eps, I absolutely love most of the cast, but on average it's underwhelming.
The guy who made BSG ranted a bit about working on Voyager. Apparently they weren't allowed to change anything. Everything had to reset by the end of the episode. In a series about being stranded.
I'm mixed-race but it wasn't just seeing a mixed-race person sent to the death chamber. What really got to me was the way the character just wanted to get their work done but they were dragged away in a cold and bureaucratic way. They whimpered like a child being dragged from their parents. The kid was terrified but they still wanted to be obedient. It wasn't that they were hoping to be saved by obedience, it's that they were just an obedient kid, even when scared. The way when they begged to go on living, everyone else just stared and didn't even move or react. They never really cared for that person anyway, the character's kinda funny-looking anyways. If they made a fuss there might have been trouble. It's not like any of them is some kind of hero. The only one to object was that holographic doctor, who was always treated as a joke. Because only a crazy person or a clown would go against the group. I looked it up online and the situation is never referenced again in any series. It was not an issue to anyone. All those people, the whole organization, the whole perspective of the show, to me is repulsive.
But I was kind of a nervous kid, so I recognize it's just my point of view.
I mean, honestly it's been something I've been considering for ages (Linux). It's just that I needed a new OC to play games (old CPU is from 2009 lol). And Windows 11 is ass and Proton works so well for games on Linux now. I'm very happy.
Also genderfluid, happy pride heh, but that's been a good thing too.
Hum... There are certainly way more than dozens. Both of those are on the millions, in a population of billions that means there would be thousands of people with both interests even if they were independent.
LCARS (Library Computer Access and Retrieval System) is the GUI from Star Trek: The Next Generation, Voyager, and Deep Space Nine. This is a rainmeter suite that transforms your Windows GUI into LCARS.
Seriously. That star Trek sub is like a cafeteria table of high school girls that are constantly giggling. I don't understand it at all. I understand less why it's so funny. It is fucking funny though.
I don't understand why a large part of adults of the word are so into that other space franchise, far in the future the time when characters have to fight with pink glowsticks for some reason.
Now that's funny.
Honestly, I have been using Lemmy since the Reddit API ordeal and the community here over Linux just annoys me. It is this all high and saving OS but why hasn't it done so yet.
Why does the community and answering questions about Linux suck. Linux great and I use it but people here act like they figured something out the rest of the world hasn't but when the rest of the world tries to figure it out the response is, "good luck, figured it out, go back to Windows loser." Just annoys the hell out of me.
I have also never watched Star Trek but it seems good.
The original series is all I've seen but its legit hilarious and definitely still worth watching. Many of its storylines have been revisited/retold over the decades, but the plots maintain their charm and originality. It's campy as all hell, but the campy atmosphere of the show elevates it rather than aging it in a bad way.
I too joined when the API shenanigans started. But...
Honestly, I have been using Lemmy since the Reddit API ordeal and ....
it's good to know I've got a million and one people to ask questions when I finally make the switch. It's inevitable. Honestly lack of free time (read home PC has not been prioritized) has been the only hurdle. I've dabbled over the years, just barely.
I have an old Thinkpad tablet (X2___ or 4___ idk) that I want to switch over. It had a few offline duties w/ W7, but that's all done now. I settled on OpenSUSE and made a live USB to start. Works on my desktop but haven't gotten it to boot on the Thinkpad. I've found I need to go to the grub2 folder and can do so at the grub prompt (rescue, probably) but I still run into something about cannot validate cli...
Yes, I'm chumming the waters while I'm stuck inline. Sorry to detour!
I have been using Linux for 20 years now, as a main OS for at least 15. Linux isn't perfect in any way and I have fucked up my system many times. But in those 20 years I maybe have felt to need to ask for help 2 or 3 times, because al the other 999 times with some searching I found someone with the same problem and a solution. When you ask for help for something that can be found with 3 minutes of searching I totally understand people don't feel the need to help you out.
I agree. Their solution for everything is FOSS and like... No sometimes people don't want an alternative for what they're talking about they want the actual thing they're talking about
Als selbst deutscher kann ich nur sagen dass übersetzte meme reposts und zwanghaftes zangendeutsch nicht besonders lustig sind. Ich_iel nervt eigentlich nur.
I don't have anything against the German communities but my vocabulary has some gaps. Also even when I understand all of the words I often don't understand the context because of German memes referencing other German memes. Sometimes German politics are hostile also. I've lived there, that isn't new.
Mostly I generally only get on Lemmy to relax as I'm preparing for sleep. At that time of day I don't want to look up words I don't know. And I don't want to read things that even understanding all of the words, I don't understand. I'll likely never move back to Europe, I'd rather spend my time on more useful languages in the global and my regional realities. Spanish. Chinese, Japanese, maybe even Korean. I know some French, Dutch, Norwegian, Korean. German is my strongest 2nd language but I don't expect to use it, or French or Norwegian anytime soon.
I don't know much about Linux, but it's the system on the computer I share at home. I think I've become spoiled to it.
I recently started a new job and was issued a PC laptop. The amount of obnoxious pop-ups and AI crap that I can't seem to find settings to disable are infuriating. It's like the computer and the Google apps we use assume I can't do or figure out anything on my own.
Also, tangential, Gemini needs to stop suggesting itself - yes, I know you're there. I'm ignoring you because I can't seem to block you, but I wish you'd just leave me alone.
Is it a Chromebook? PC stands for personal computer. So a PC laptop could have any OS on it. The usual assumption is Windows but you said Gemini keeps harassing you and not Copilot so it sounds like it could be a Chromebook. Those used to be locked down horrible machines, but I haven't used one recently.
I use my computer for gaming. Never a problem. Wine fails once in awhile. I end up having to dual boot and then spending all my time on the windows side. Then I wondered why I tried so hard to make fetch happen.
I put Mint on a 2010 iMac a few months ago and just today put Kubuntu on a 8th gen Intel dual booting Windows 10. Both seem to work well, though kubuntu didn’t find the audio driver for the PC and gives a Wayland error on boot (Fcitx something or other, I believe).
The problem for me was the time sink, sure I could customize the entirety of my OS, but it'd take me a few years! ADHD hell. Wasn't willing to devote all my freetime to that just yet.
Eh..... The inner light is peak and I'll fucking fight anyone who says otherwise.
I'm two episodes away from it on a nightly ritual watch with my daughter and trying desperately not to overhype that my favourite episode is coming up soon.
I'm still two seasons out from that, looked it up but stopped reading because it's 7 years since my last watch and I'm trying to get the freshness of that gap without spoiling the details but yeah I'll fight you anyway.
FLUE EPISODE FTW! 👊
Tell you what though...I may reply to you in two months and give you an oul fistbump.
Edit: also....hadouken! I did like Sagat too though in fairness. Guile too.
Haha, just joking about Masks. I do seriously not get the absolute adoration for Inner Light however. It's a good episode but it wouldn't make my top five. Stuff like Schisms and the one where Picard gets tortured beats it for me.
Enterprise has a lot going for it, if season 3 didn't ever happened, and the executives allowed the writers to use less technology and have that first season on earth they wanted to do, it would have been incredible lol.
i like a lot the "pioneering" feeling the show has, the crew still is astronaut-y.
And hoshi Sato is one of the few redeeming characters, alongside Dr Phlox.
Overall 7/10 enjoyable, even if the executives half-ruined it.
The expanse is so good, and the books, and audiobooks are even better. I'm just finishing 6th audio book and while I loved the show the audio book (and book) are on another level. Highly recommend to anyone who likes space and sci-fi.
Start with Strange New Worlds. If you like The Expanse (and I love The Expanse), you’ll like it. It’s gorgeous, it’s brand new, it feels modern, but it’s as Star Trek as the original series.
Then go to Deep Space 9 once you’re used to the water.
Please don’t ban me Lemmy admins, but… you’ll have people tell you to start with TNG. Don’t. It does feel old, heh.
Call me when I can play ALL the video games I want to play on Linux and I'll happily ditch windows.
Hard mode: you aren't allowed to mention Proton or tell me to abandon video games I like because "Well kernal anticheat is bad and was invented by satan" (it is, I know, I still want to play fortnite occasionally or whatever).
Thanks for making me realise why I never had the legendary "Windows broke dual boot" issues that everyone says are so common. I always used separate drives!
As a Linux-only person I can totally acknowledge the need for Windows if you want to be a regular player of specific popular games. And maybe VR. I haven't tried it recently after playing a ton of VR a few years ago.
But I can also point out the fact that I probably already own more games than I will ever finish in my adult life, and just in case I do there are also more games released every year that work on Linux that I could ever play. So if a game will not work in Linux even with proton and whatnot, my life is not negatively affected by that game not existing in my world. (I'll admit I probably didn't always think this way, but for a long time I still ran Windows and didn't think about it either way)
I find that ideal. I strip Windows down to the bone, turn off defender realtime and some other security measures (which I don’t worry about since Windows can’t read my Linux partitions), and it makes games fly.
And use Linux for basically anything else.
No messing around with stuff that doesn’t want to work on either OS. And Linux is so much easier/faster for so many things (like anything GPU compute, or dealing with media, or Java games like Minecraft/Starsector).
Actually it's gnu/star trek
That is awesome. Yoinked for my avatar!
Everyone hates on gnuTrek
Discovery sucks but all the rest are fantastic, Prodigy is a kids show and still fits right in while continuing Janeway’s story
I like to call it GNU plus Trek
I oddly started watching star trek of because of all the fire memes on lemmy
I switched to Linux (not arch btw) around the same time as joining Lemmy. And I've still not seen any trek apart from a couple of the movies, which I quite liked. We're contemplating starting at the very start
Starting from the beginning is the absolute best, in my opinion. The original series is so much fun, and as much as I love TNG and others, I know that nothing will come close to the cultural impact that the original had. It was prime time, mainstream, and riding the energy that the country had for space in the 1960s, with a message of hope and cooperation. That being said, prepare for a decent mix of goofiness too, lol.
That's part of the reason why I probably wouldn't recommend old trek first to somebody. We don't have the benefit of being able to go back to the cultural moment of the '60s Trek.
I compare it to how Wizard of Oz is a great movie, but you can't really experience the transition to color that happened in the movie the same way someone in 1939 did. Plenty of TV shows were still in black and white all the way into the '60s.
There is some really terrible original Trek, whose only defense is being a product of the time. That said, you will still see the first interracial kiss on broadcast TV. The first season of The Next Generation is pretty stilted, but is still decent in my opinion. And, as is the overarching theme for Trek, questions about who, what, and why we are will be asked, and sometimes answers will be proposed.
The Gorn was laughable, but in SNW they are legitimately terrifying. The fact that every series has ties and often callbacks to others in the timeline is one of my favorite things about Trek, like Doctor Who it’s been going for decades but every part of the history is fodder for more exploration. DS9s Tribble episode is a great example, editing Sisko and Dax in behind Kirk and Spock
Yeah, the Gorn were so ridiculous, but also gave rise to Rock Paper Scissors Lizard Spock. The Tribbles were also ridiculous, but so fun, and a great nostalgic nod to TOS in DS9.
OG star Trek is a product of it's time. While revolutionary and a great source of solid sci Fi, it's also got the old tv style to it. Extremely long pauses, close ups forever, agonizingly long just to get out one line then repeat.
Would recommend... After you've watched a more modern star Trek :)
TNG is a favorite for a good reason. Maybe from season 3 on to start. It's also going to seem extremely slow / no music compared to modern TV. But it's overall quality shit.
How'd you like it?
I've just skipped around episodes in Next Generation, DS9 and Voyager but I love most of it.
Homefront and Paradise Lost might be some of the best television I've ever seen. The fact that those episodes came out before 9/11 might be the craziest piece of foreshadowing I've ever seen.
Little green men was my favorite though.
That's awesome! Lower decks and Strange New Worlds are going to be a treat for you, save them for later
Lower decks is simply the best trek ever.
FYI DS9 isn't really a "skip around" series. Plenty of long plot arcs as the series goes on.
It's absolutely a slip around series :) the plots you're probably referring to really only kick in the last half of the series.
That's what I meant by "as the series goes on."
It's really not but I've been watching on Pluto because that's what I have access to
The ferengi were a terrible idea done terribly.. until DS9. They really find their stride
Although I think they are best in the ep where quark sells weapons. Something about his cousin is peak Ferengi
The rewrite of the Ferengi rules of accusation might also be my favorite episode 😂
And In the Pale Moonlight. I hope you didn’t skip that one!
Yeah, skipping around ST is reasonable. I skipped around Voyager a ton and still haven’t filled in the gaps TBH.
I have considered not only figuring out how to setup Linux on my computer but also considered starting to watch Star Trek. It's been almost a year since I've been on Lemmy and I haven't caved yet.... But my time may be coming soon.....
ONE OF US
ONE OF US
ONE OF US
You just posted it to a server hosted on linux. You use Linux friend. One of us one of us gooble gobble one of us.
It's the year of the linux server.
Always has been.
So you’re a BSD user and Stargate fan?
They use Haiku and watch Farscape.
TempleOS and BSG
So say we all.
Babylon 5, and I multi boot.
GASP
But are you at least a socialist?
Standing next to mass grave
"But what kind of socialist are you?"
Fed posting
https://youtu.be/lgKGIhfKrpY
Alex Garland, Yuk.
As bad as Kathryn-Von Riefenstahl-Bigelow.
I have mixed feelings about the movie, but that was a good line and Jesse Plemons delivered it well.
He's a good actor, he shouldn't do garbage movies.
At least?
This implies there are levels or grades, here. What's at the top of the pyramid?
Begin leftist infight in 3... 2 .... 1.....
This thread really pinning Lemmy down.
Ah leftist infighting goes all the way back to the French Revolution in fairness but... Yeah I can't disagree. Like I'm a male shiny white western Linux user who loves Star Trek.
I'm like those lads you see in cargo shorts and sandals on holiday. FML.
Absolute basic Lemmy user.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_of_small_differences
That's starting to sound like a hierarchy 🏴
Lol in the original thread, I mentioned that I forgot to add communist to the meme.
I started getting into Star Trek last week and I'm planning to use Linux as soon as I get a laptop of my own. Lemmy has finally consumed me.
I just discovered Ubuntu Touch is an option for my next phone and am seriously considering a Volla Phone!
Unfortunately you're going to have to rewatch every episode of Star Trek you previously watched, but this time use Linux to do it.
One of us, One of us
I assume Das Kapital is already on your bookshelf?
Damn, that box I haven't checked yet.
Go deep! Go CachyOS!
And if you get an Nvidia laptop, welcome to hell :)
Just switched to Linux for Plex.
Ubuntu by the way.
And now you have to move away from Plex?
https://feddit.nl/post/35184193
If you're still using Plex after all these years of them doing shady shit, that's on you.
That very post highlights that that confirmation is only if you stream the stuff Plex streams. If you use it for your own library as most do, then it’s a non issue.
Jellyfin < Plex. No matter how you try and spin it. Just on ease of remote access and the UI alone
I look at it in the reverse. I want this platform to stream at home. If it's a pain to use at home without internt then it's lost the plot. I'd setup Plex with the trusted local network in the config file and all of that, but then I still have reconfigure my clients and then they all get admin access so all my parental controls are gone. Jellyfin and Emby get this right and Plex does not, so I dropped Plex. I ended up on Em by instead of Jelly because Direct Play/Stream just wasn't really working for me in Jelly (that may well have been due to my hosting on a Synology NAS).
We each have our own requirements and so I try not to judge which is what the comment I replied to seemed to do.
I need remote access for my users.
Cheers, but you did say this
So I spun it in my own different priorities under which Plex is not superior.
I’m in the same situation as you- I have a Synology NAS and I want to set up some sort of streaming for my old home movies. I would like to be able to view on mobile and at home. Is Emby possibly a better option than JellyFin for that scenario? I wasn’t even aware of them.
Overall I do like Emby more than JellyFin. Emby is commercial, like Plex. I believe the client applications (ie everything but the web) needs a licensed server but they have a free trial period. There is a remote option
https://emby.media/community/index.php?/blogs/entry/579-how-to-guide-emby-connect-remote-access-and-basic-port-forwarding/
And they have a service they call Connect intended to simplify the remote access.
Caveat, I've not really used the remote capabilities at all, I can't speak to how it compares to Plex's. I have streamed remotely through a VPN connection, rather than setting up public access. But only once or twice, and mostly to test the VPN rather than for the purpose of streaming.
Look into jellyfin. I used to run Plex but I find jellyfin way better.
Each to their own but think you should highlight the failings of Jellyfin.
Mainly:
The first point is valid, but it only applies to you as the server admin and not the remote users. And honestly it was stuff worth learning for me, as somebody who is not on the IT/web end of things.
But the UI being janky? I don't know about that. Static images of the screens may look better to you on the Plex side, and that's just preference. But when it comes to lag, hitching, did that click register, having the server scan the media library, and just about every other performance thing I can think of, Jellyfin seems SO much better to me.
And that's why I do Emby instead. Cloud connections are not that difficult to setup, though not as streamlined as Plex. However, I refuse to go back to Plex because of some serious privacy concerns from the last couple years. I have had a lifetime membership with them since like 2014 and it was great for a long time, but I don't need it tracking activity of my friends.
Interesting. I switched to jellyfin from Plex because the Plex interface was fucking terrible after the redesigned it and jellyfin was so much better even when unfinished.
Setting up remote access for Jellyfin felt pretty trivial for me like 2 years ago when switching away from Plex. No hiccups that I can recall whatsoever. Except for maybe the nginx reverse proxy configuration, but the documentation made it decently straightforward, but that step isn't strictly necessary to get remote access working; that was just something I wanted for my particular setup.
And I wouldn't call the Jellyfin UI janky at all. I use it every day and can't think of any common issues I encounter when using it. There surely are quirks with some features, but I find them few and far between. I recall Plex having its own UI quirks back when I used it.
Why tho?
We all start somewhere, even if it's the smelliest pink taco.
Pretty much, haha. The amount of elitism among some Linux users is quite potent.
Just tell everyone you use arch, even if you don't.
I mean, if you're not using LFS, are you really using linux at all?
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Unless it's Arch, then everyone seems to agree it is the best Linux.
At which I will point out it's the second linuxiest Linux. Real penguins use Gentoo
My kid installed Arch once upon a time. I was impressed and pleased with him, but also thinking that was way more work than I wanted to do to not use Windows. So I bought a Steam Deck.
Weirdly enough that’s my mom’s high school nickname!
oh hey I remember her
Smelly you say? May I recommend you apply some Mint with Cinnamon to spruce up that computer of yours?
https://linuxmint.com/
Take the most popular (for now) distro in Ubuntu, remove the proprietary Canonical stuff that makes people say eww, and give the UI some polish and you basically have Linux Mint. And if you REALLY want to reject Ubuntu in its entirety, they do have LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition).
Because it’s fine, and it’s one of the more “normal” options for first-timers.
it's not "fine". i recommended a friend start with ubuntu because it's the easiest one and tte issues i have had to help with in the past year...
they switched to endeavourOS and i've heard no complaints since.
(...to the Star Trek fandom. We'll get you eventually.)
I used to love Star Trek until I hit that Tuvix episode. That triggered some things in my personal background. I tried to get over it but I can't.
Maybe the lower decks parody will help? It might equally make it worse though, you might want to read or have someone else read a synopsis
Hahaha
It's half the reason everyone treats Janeway as a criminal. Like yeah overall she's a fantastic captain. But she did straight up murder tuvix! He begged for life!
If it's any help, that show is a hot mess. There are some absolute banger eps, I absolutely love most of the cast, but on average it's underwhelming.
The guy who made BSG ranted a bit about working on Voyager. Apparently they weren't allowed to change anything. Everything had to reset by the end of the episode. In a series about being stranded.
I'm mixed-race but it wasn't just seeing a mixed-race person sent to the death chamber. What really got to me was the way the character just wanted to get their work done but they were dragged away in a cold and bureaucratic way. They whimpered like a child being dragged from their parents. The kid was terrified but they still wanted to be obedient. It wasn't that they were hoping to be saved by obedience, it's that they were just an obedient kid, even when scared. The way when they begged to go on living, everyone else just stared and didn't even move or react. They never really cared for that person anyway, the character's kinda funny-looking anyways. If they made a fuss there might have been trouble. It's not like any of them is some kind of hero. The only one to object was that holographic doctor, who was always treated as a joke. Because only a crazy person or a clown would go against the group. I looked it up online and the situation is never referenced again in any series. It was not an issue to anyone. All those people, the whole organization, the whole perspective of the show, to me is repulsive.
But I was kind of a nervous kid, so I recognize it's just my point of view.
Okay, no Linux, no Star Trek. Cool cool. But you're a femboy furry, right?
If so they'd be into Linux by default.
Since I've started using Lemmy,
Lemmy pipeline real?
I mean, honestly it's been something I've been considering for ages (Linux). It's just that I needed a new OC to play games (old CPU is from 2009 lol). And Windows 11 is ass and Proton works so well for games on Linux now. I'm very happy.
Also genderfluid, happy pride heh, but that's been a good thing too.
It's okay, BSD, Haiku, and even Amiga users are welcome too.
OS/2?
edit: I had no idea - it lives
Temple OS user here, I've been welcomed as well.
I use Star Trek and watch Linux, but I am really missing the obligatory "There are dozens of us"-comment here. Well, now it is kind of here.
Hum... There are certainly way more than dozens. Both of those are on the millions, in a population of billions that means there would be thousands of people with both interests even if they were independent.
And let's face it, the only options for cutesy interfaces like in Trek would be Linux or MacOS.
Ehhh.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/lcars-system-3/
I paid for winrar on windows, I'm going to make it every penny's worth
I wish I could give you a medal, you deserve it
You paid?
You're weird.
.... I mean, we're all l weird, so that's not really saying anything.
Seriously. That star Trek sub is like a cafeteria table of high school girls that are constantly giggling. I don't understand it at all. I understand less why it's so funny. It is fucking funny though.
I think Star Trek lends itself well to memes, because it's already a show where obscurities are questioned.
Just old trek, nutrek is nothing like it
Oh shut up. Nutrek is great. TOS is 70% terrible, 30% brilliant, 90's trek is life.
I don't understand why a large part of adults of the word are so into that other space franchise, far in the future the time when characters have to fight with pink glowsticks for some reason.
Now that's funny.
Honestly, I have been using Lemmy since the Reddit API ordeal and the community here over Linux just annoys me. It is this all high and saving OS but why hasn't it done so yet.
Why does the community and answering questions about Linux suck. Linux great and I use it but people here act like they figured something out the rest of the world hasn't but when the rest of the world tries to figure it out the response is, "good luck, figured it out, go back to Windows loser." Just annoys the hell out of me.
I have also never watched Star Trek but it seems good.
The original series is all I've seen but its legit hilarious and definitely still worth watching. Many of its storylines have been revisited/retold over the decades, but the plots maintain their charm and originality. It's campy as all hell, but the campy atmosphere of the show elevates it rather than aging it in a bad way.
I too joined when the API shenanigans started. But...
it's good to know I've got a million and one people to ask questions when I finally make the switch. It's inevitable. Honestly lack of free time (read home PC has not been prioritized) has been the only hurdle. I've dabbled over the years, just barely.
I have an old Thinkpad tablet (X2___ or 4___ idk) that I want to switch over. It had a few offline duties w/ W7, but that's all done now. I settled on OpenSUSE and made a live USB to start. Works on my desktop but haven't gotten it to boot on the Thinkpad. I've found I need to go to the grub2 folder and can do so at the grub prompt (rescue, probably) but I still run into something about cannot validate cli...
Yes, I'm chumming the waters while I'm stuck inline. Sorry to detour!
I have been using Linux for 20 years now, as a main OS for at least 15. Linux isn't perfect in any way and I have fucked up my system many times. But in those 20 years I maybe have felt to need to ask for help 2 or 3 times, because al the other 999 times with some searching I found someone with the same problem and a solution. When you ask for help for something that can be found with 3 minutes of searching I totally understand people don't feel the need to help you out.
I agree. Their solution for everything is FOSS and like... No sometimes people don't want an alternative for what they're talking about they want the actual thing they're talking about
I use Debian btw.
Its the same kind if vibe as when you hang out with certain Jazz musicians / fans and they start discussing chord substitutions, extensions, etc.
I should add that while I'm not specifically a "Jazz Musician", I play piano , and utilise substitutions, extensions etc. :)
Joke's on you, I use star trek and watch Linux.
Better not mention that you don't use Firefox
Twice is a coincidence, thrice is a conspiracy
Could always learn German
Nein, scheint eine dumme Sprache zu sein.
As of this moment, we are at war.
My friend said the fediverse is the Linux of social media. Now I'm trying to get him on the fediverse, and he's trying to get me onto Linux.
I always refer to Lemmy as "communist Reddit".
It isn't even left.
Horribly centre-right at best.
Unless you're American who haven't got a clue what these political terms mean.
I use Lemmy BTW
I have no hatred in my heart for our BSD-using Star Wars-watching compatriots.
The ![email protected] artist is a BSD guy.
It's okay to dance to the beat of a different drummer.
I don't even use computers.
I mean... Yeah. The fish.
Or don’t speak German
I speak some but I still block all of the German communities.
Warum?
Als selbst deutscher kann ich nur sagen dass übersetzte meme reposts und zwanghaftes zangendeutsch nicht besonders lustig sind. Ich_iel nervt eigentlich nur.
Die kommentar sektion ist aber sehr lustig und oft informativ
“Ich iel” rollt auch nicht so leicht von der Zunge, finde ich.
Das ist wo du bist falsch kindchen
Warum nicht?
Was hat er gegen deutsche Communities?
I don't have anything against the German communities but my vocabulary has some gaps. Also even when I understand all of the words I often don't understand the context because of German memes referencing other German memes. Sometimes German politics are hostile also. I've lived there, that isn't new.
Mostly I generally only get on Lemmy to relax as I'm preparing for sleep. At that time of day I don't want to look up words I don't know. And I don't want to read things that even understanding all of the words, I don't understand. I'll likely never move back to Europe, I'd rather spend my time on more useful languages in the global and my regional realities. Spanish. Chinese, Japanese, maybe even Korean. I know some French, Dutch, Norwegian, Korean. German is my strongest 2nd language but I don't expect to use it, or French or Norwegian anytime soon.
Almost on 2 years now..
Yep, great API exodus.
Shit! I've been watching linux and using Star Trek!
This feels too real. But I'm still grateful for all of you people on lemmy even if I don't completely fit in
I don't know much about Linux, but it's the system on the computer I share at home. I think I've become spoiled to it.
I recently started a new job and was issued a PC laptop. The amount of obnoxious pop-ups and AI crap that I can't seem to find settings to disable are infuriating. It's like the computer and the Google apps we use assume I can't do or figure out anything on my own.
Also, tangential, Gemini needs to stop suggesting itself - yes, I know you're there. I'm ignoring you because I can't seem to block you, but I wish you'd just leave me alone.
Is it a Chromebook? PC stands for personal computer. So a PC laptop could have any OS on it. The usual assumption is Windows but you said Gemini keeps harassing you and not Copilot so it sounds like it could be a Chromebook. Those used to be locked down horrible machines, but I haven't used one recently.
Ah yes, it is a Chromebook. Sorry, I didn't realize it was a whole separate thing. I'm not hip to new/modern computer stuff, haha.
That reminds me. I need to rewatch DS:9
Currently rewatching as my bedtime show, still great
I don't use Linux or Apple. Just debloated Windows 11(Tiny 11).
I also don't watch Star trek or even watch TV.
We are out here. Enjoy your stay.
I watched Star Trek in the 80s and 90s. Not since. I used Linux in the 10s. I still put it on other people's PCs, but not mine.
Tiny11 is awesome, I use it for gaming when Wine fails
Question, why are you still using Wine for Linux gaming? Steams Proton is far more capable and ProtonGE enables access to even more video codecs.
wine gets more upstream, and I always found proton lagged in the OpenGL department
I use my computer for gaming. Never a problem. Wine fails once in awhile. I end up having to dual boot and then spending all my time on the windows side. Then I wondered why I tried so hard to make fetch happen.
I honestly don't know what Linux is this has inspired me to ask in ![email protected]
It's a toaster
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It's a joke. Linux is an operating system
asdf
Kernel? Stop making up words!
Just got Kubuntu set up, quite happy with it so far.
Kinda hit or miss on Star Trek. Lower Decks is just about the best show ever though.
(Mint is good, don't like Cinnamon all that much, and it's an Ubuntu derivative anyway, so figured Kubuntu would have KDE 'native')
(Tried Fedora, couldn't get codec/video stuff to work right)
(Steam is generally easier and more supported on Debian derivatives, at least for now)
I put Mint on a 2010 iMac a few months ago and just today put Kubuntu on a 8th gen Intel dual booting Windows 10. Both seem to work well, though kubuntu didn’t find the audio driver for the PC and gives a Wayland error on boot (Fcitx something or other, I believe).
If I'm only a fan of the OG Star Trek does that still count?
I'm only a fan of linux, not a user. Does that count?
It counts.
I thought I was a nerd until I got here, now im still a nerd but not a super nerd.
Im sure you do use linux in some way unknowingly :D
Phone, car, smart devices, kitchen appliances, whatever
I actually maintain a few apps hosted on Linux servers at work. I'm just not nearly as
fanaticalenthusiastic about Linux as most people around here.Dozens of us! Dozens, I say!
(But I do like Star Trek and use Linux, I just don’t make my presence here revolve around that.)
Ditto. But from the looks of it I’ll have to learn Linux eventually. The upside is that there is enough information online for a noob to do it.
The problem for me was the time sink, sure I could customize the entirety of my OS, but it'd take me a few years! ADHD hell. Wasn't willing to devote all my freetime to that just yet.
I hear you. I’m pragmatic. I don’t care about customization as long as I can do the bare basics I’m good. Makes life simple and less stressful.
I've only installed Mint once, and I've only seen two of Abrams' Star Trek movies, both things happened about a decade ago. Do I still fit in?
But you have of course seen TNG, right? What's your opinion on the Schisms episode? What about Frame of Mind? Which one is your favorite?
Eh..... The inner light is peak and I'll fucking fight anyone who says otherwise.
I'm two episodes away from it on a nightly ritual watch with my daughter and trying desperately not to overhype that my favourite episode is coming up soon.
Masks is peak TNG, fite me lol
I'm still two seasons out from that, looked it up but stopped reading because it's 7 years since my last watch and I'm trying to get the freshness of that gap without spoiling the details but yeah I'll fight you anyway.
FLUE EPISODE FTW! 👊
Tell you what though...I may reply to you in two months and give you an oul fistbump.
Edit: also....hadouken! I did like Sagat too though in fairness. Guile too.
I will absolutely fight you over this comment. Still better than discovery though.
Haha, just joking about Masks. I do seriously not get the absolute adoration for Inner Light however. It's a good episode but it wouldn't make my top five. Stuff like Schisms and the one where Picard gets tortured beats it for me.
I use plenty of Linux on server side, just that I use Windows as my daily desktop OS for some godforsaken reason.
I actually got back to watching Star Trek recently!
I have been a Trekkie long before I joined.
Pretty much my thing.
I would thank you to start using Linux
It's alright, there are many of us who like SeaQuest DSV, too.
Why are you even here? /jk
but The Orville is just Star Trek with Family Guy jokes
500 cigarettes was pretty good.
I'm Gen z too, you are wrong, StarTrek is awesome, specially the original series.
Enterprise has a lot going for it, if season 3 didn't ever happened, and the executives allowed the writers to use less technology and have that first season on earth they wanted to do, it would have been incredible lol.
i like a lot the "pioneering" feeling the show has, the crew still is astronaut-y.
And hoshi Sato is one of the few redeeming characters, alongside Dr Phlox.
Overall 7/10 enjoyable, even if the executives half-ruined it.
yay!
The expanse is so good, and the books, and audiobooks are even better. I'm just finishing 6th audio book and while I loved the show the audio book (and book) are on another level. Highly recommend to anyone who likes space and sci-fi.
Start with Strange New Worlds. If you like The Expanse (and I love The Expanse), you’ll like it. It’s gorgeous, it’s brand new, it feels modern, but it’s as Star Trek as the original series.
Then go to Deep Space 9 once you’re used to the water.
Please don’t ban me Lemmy admins, but… you’ll have people tell you to start with TNG. Don’t. It does feel old, heh.
They’ll never suspect me
Hey its not my fault, im computer illiterate and star trek is for needs. Also i got banned from reddit.
And you don't use ai.
But for reasons you don't understand.
Over on programmer.dev, we're allowed to use AI, as long as we occasionally complain about how bad it still is.
My hope is that localllama-style use grows on Lemmy once the corporate apps start to really enshittify.
Don't kid yourself, we can tell. Oh yes, we can tell.
Shhhh....
Call me when I can play ALL the video games I want to play on Linux and I'll happily ditch windows.
Hard mode: you aren't allowed to mention Proton or tell me to abandon video games I like because "Well kernal anticheat is bad and was invented by satan" (it is, I know, I still want to play fortnite occasionally or whatever).
Dual boot would like to enter the chat
Dual boot is great until a random windows update borks it :/
It can only do so if both OS are on the same drive.
It is recommended to use two physical drives: one for Windows, one for Linux.
Never failed me in years.
Thanks for making me realise why I never had the legendary "Windows broke dual boot" issues that everyone says are so common. I always used separate drives!
As well as Lutris and Heroic Games Launcher
While great overall, these are just launchers/wrappers for Wine/Proton with built-in library
They will not help launch something that can't be run with Proton, and for hard mode, they won't add native support.
So, nice, but not what OP is looking for
As a Linux-only person I can totally acknowledge the need for Windows if you want to be a regular player of specific popular games. And maybe VR. I haven't tried it recently after playing a ton of VR a few years ago.
But I can also point out the fact that I probably already own more games than I will ever finish in my adult life, and just in case I do there are also more games released every year that work on Linux that I could ever play. So if a game will not work in Linux even with proton and whatnot, my life is not negatively affected by that game not existing in my world. (I'll admit I probably didn't always think this way, but for a long time I still ran Windows and didn't think about it either way)
You can dual boot.
I find that ideal. I strip Windows down to the bone, turn off defender realtime and some other security measures (which I don’t worry about since Windows can’t read my Linux partitions), and it makes games fly.
And use Linux for basically anything else.
No messing around with stuff that doesn’t want to work on either OS. And Linux is so much easier/faster for so many things (like anything GPU compute, or dealing with media, or Java games like Minecraft/Starsector).
ring ring: This is your upcoming Steam Deck purchase calling from the near future.
:)
I watch old trek clips to reminisce, but not nutrek crap
Blocking the Linux communities is like playing whack a mole here. Nothing against Linux but Linux bros are insufferable
i hate star trek but i love linux