Trump unveiling 2028 campaign hats: ‘Soft launching a fascist dictatorship is insane’
Summary
The Trump Store released $50 “Trump 2028” hats Thursday, sparking backlash online as Trump has repeatedly hinted at running for a third term.
“I have had more people ask me to have a third term,” Trump said on March 31, claiming the 2020 election was “totally rigged.”
Steve Bannon said he's exploring “five or six different alternatives” to enable a third run.
Critics on social media called it “insane” and a sign of “fascist” ambitions. Though barred by the 22nd Amendment, Trump could run again if it were overturned by Congress and the states. However, it would require a two-thirds vote of Congress and three-fourths vote of the states.
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This is an excellent opportunity for someone to start selling "Obama 2028" hats.
Bill Clinton sucks. His policies directly lead us to where we are today and what he did to Lewinsky was sexual harassment.
I know you're joking but I don't find him to be very funny.
Yeah, he really shit the bed when he repealed Glass-Steagall and opened the door for the corporatist hellscape we currently live in.
Also, there's a good bit of evidence that dude actually raped women. Clinton was my hero when I was a baby lib, I read his book and everything. I don't think history will treat his (or his wife's) memory kindly.
Let's be honest, Obama is at least partially responsible for the USA being in the situation it is now. We don't need Obama again, we need an actual left candidate that will actually fight for leftist agenda items, like Medicare for all, and not double down on W Bush policies and kill thousands of people with drones.
Obama ran on a left leaning agenda with major grassroots support, then dismantled that organization and governed as a center right Democrat.
The point is that there's NOTHING that would infuriate Trump more - and any argument for how Trump can run for a third term will also then apply to Obama.
Any US opinion of what's "left" and "right" is unparseable for us who live in Europe anyways.
uh, he could lose to AOC and then he's losing to a black woman that he already hates?
You're underestimating how easy it is to infuriate Trump, and overestimating how worthwhile it is. I'd much sooner have that fat fuck drown in his own blood than want to get a rise out of him. Instead of letting in a shitty moderate who ultimately enabled Donald Trump for the lulz, I'd prefer we get someone who will re-establish the rule of law and imprison Trump and all of his cronies.
If you sink to their level, they will beat you with experience. You think you can out-troll the nihilistic right. You can't. Leftism is based on the idea of actually giving af.
If we manage to emerge from this with MAGA destroyed, we will have a rare opportunity to rebuild this nation, and the LAST thing we should do is go back to the same old-same old, with weak, spineless, Democratic weenies like Obama, Schumer, and their weasely ilk.
We need to have bold, courageous Democratic elected representatives who will hold the line when the Nazis try to rise again, and fight them with everything we have. Not like the last time, when they bent over at every opportunity.
That would normalize what they are doing.
If this joke of a nation had any merit at all, these coy suggestions would be disqualifying and his flabby, corrupt ass would be on the sidewalk or in jail tomorrow. Unfortunately, Americans are lazy, entitled, stupid, and collectively rich enough to pretend that there won’t be consequences to our shortsightedness.
Americans don't have a democratic process to do anything about it.
Yup. If we did, trump could've never had a chance at being president
I can't tell for sure if this is a supporting comment, or if it's sarcastically pointing out that Trump was elected.
On the off chance that it is sarcasm, what I meant was that the people have no democratic process to remove elected officials from power.
I'm saying that if we had an actual democracy, 35% support from idiots doesn't get you into office. It gets a little attention that fades and is almost forgotten a couple years later. You know, a sane world -- in which we do not live.
Hmmm, what would other countries do if they didn't have a democratic process to do anything about it? Maybe the French have some advice...
They had. Couple of months ago.
The facts already disqualifying him is why he's disqualified. Good to see Americans aren't alone as the stupid ones
In case anyone is still unsure, he is not willingly leaving in 2028. Everything that's happening indicates he is setting up a path for him to remain. One of two things are going to happen in our future.
We will need to march on DC in INSANE numbers and force him to leave with the threat of lethal force.
We will have to use lethal force to make him leave.
Only other possibility is he dies of natural causes before then. But then we get Vance and we'll probably have to do the same thing. This isn't just Trump. The entire GOP apparatus is a fascist movement. The only reason he didn't do it last time is because he hadn't set up the foundation for him to remain by doing things like, I don't know, instructing the FBI to arrest federal judges who oppose him, which is a line we just crossed today.
Fascism is here. Arm yourselves. Help others arm themselves. Train. Help others train.
Because of this comment, I think I’m going to start saving a little money for a quick trip to DC. I don’t know what’s going to happen, but I think I want to be there when it does.
If Trump dies in 2026 then there are 10 constitutionally valid years of Vance ruling.
Do you think the Constitution will stay unaltered until 2036?
Yes, all the ways to alter the constitution are fundamentally broken.
Altered or not, it's not like the GOP gives a shit about a piece of paper.
So it's gonna be January 6th all over again?
I'm not trying to be a pessimist, but this is the same kind of logic J6ers used in 2021. They believed that the election was stolen and tried to invade the capitol as a result.
I'd like to be proven wrong here, but if a massive crowd of armed people show up to the capitol doors if trump is somehow reelected in 2028, you'd be hard pressed to convince most normal people that it's any different than J6.
What showed up on Jan 6 were a few thousand redneck losers, many of whom already had criminal convictions. What I'm talking about is something that will need to be larger than the Civil Rights march on DC in '63. Larger than the 2020 protests. What showed up on Jan 6 were dipshits who believed an election was stolen without a shred of evidence. If this fuck tries remaining after 2 terms there's no guesswork involved. No BELIEF that something is wrong. You're going to see something unlike anything this country has seen before that unites all liberals, all independents, a lot of people who never identified as anything before, and probably even a lot of conservatives who still have some sort of red line.
A president only getting 2 terms is one of those basic, foundational rules that is easy to understand. There's lots of grey area in what Trump and his fascist enablers are doing, especially to stupid people. But even stupid people get the 2 term rule and can grasp why it matters.
I used to think that. Then Trump got elected again.
People are legitimately stupid and I have no patience for it anymore. I'm losing my mind and I don't know how to protect my family when shit hits the fan.
I'm scared, man. It's giving me nightmares.
And if they had been right, it would have been justified. The problem is that they had zero evidence of a stolen election. Trump went to court over 60 times to get the election overturned, and never once produced a shred of evidence that the election was stolen from him, even when it was in front of judges he personally appointed. The January 6th rioters were basing their actions on nothing more than right-wing propaganda.
In contrast, Trump is openly signaling that he is going to ignore the Constitution (or unilaterally alter it) and run for a third term. A January 6th style riot would be justified in this case (if all legal routes fail), because if he is allowed to get away with this, what's stopping him from just handing his fourth presidency to Donald Jr, then Barron, and so on?
The Romans stormed Rome more than a few times. Sometimes they succeeded.
Let's be honest. His health isn't going to make it. But regardless, if true, we should run Obama against him just so he can lose to a black man, again, before he dies.
Are you really willing to bet the future of the country on this? Evil has a way of sticking around way longer than you'd think...
Absolutely not. I would rather the constitution not get used like toilet paper for this waste of human space. But if they go full authoritarian, why not lean into it and play our own hand in a similar vein?
I'm tired of taking the high road against fascists.
"legitimizing" their attempt to tear up the constitution by also doing it isn't how you save it...
I might be getting misunderstood here.
They are going to make an attempt for a third term. They are going to claim some constitutional loophole and the SCOTUS is going to agree with them.
This is and always has been their plan. They've been screaming it from the rafters for the last 8+ years.
This will happen one way or another, Trump will likely get "cleared" for a third term for some bullshit reason that every "constitutional lawyer" will decry foul on, but it will still happen because the pillars of our democracy have already crumbled.
After that happens, we can either try and fight it and live in the past, or we can lean into it and adapt to fascism to fight fire with fire until such time that we can rebuild the pillars of our democracy.
The 2 term limit was added as an amendment in 1947 after FDR was so damn popular that he would have just kept running and winning until he died, and the other side didn't like it.
They fascists should be more scared of repealing the 2 term limit than progressives, if they studied history. Which they don't. So here we are.
Edit: Why are you downvoting me for simply stating what is planning to and going to happen based on what's already been done so far? Trump should have never been allowed to run for a second term, he's got a 34 felony convictions, had several ongoing investigations and trials set including classified documents, fraud, rape, treason, and a coup attempt. If they cared about the constitution, he should have been outright barred from running at all, just like CO Supreme court ruled before the election. But the SCOTUS is in his pocket so they will overrule anything to give Trump an advantage.
This will keep happening, downvoting me does not stop it. We can talk about what the appropriate level of response should be when it does happen, which is what I assumed we were doing, but it's going to happen. I'm on the side of the camp that's tired of taking the high road against fascism. It sounds like you're not. That's ok. We're still on the same team and should work together to produce the optimal outcome for the most people here. We're not enemies. We just have different approaches/responses to fighting fascists. That's ok. I respect the high road perspective. I just don't think it's going to work. Because it hasn't yet, and all we do are pile up losses to fascists.
Fuck NO we should not run any other candidate. You want to imply that 3+ terms is acceptable?? That is friggin nuts
As mentioned in another reply, this is more fighting fire with fire sort of thing. They're going to trample all over the constitution one way or another here it looks like. They already have. the SCOTUS has legislated some incredibly unconstitutional rulings in the last several years, so it's going to keep happening.
We can either stick our heads in the sand and say: NO, MUH CONSTITNTUION, and hide behind what is ultimately just a piece of paper with some words on it if nobody in power is willing to defend it; or we can adapt and fight fire with fire until we can fix the institutions that have collapsed and recover our democracy.
If you try and take the high road with fascists, they'll just keep winning. That's literally what Fascism was created to destroy.
The plan is to argue that only two consecutive terms bar someone from running for a third term, and have the Supreme Court's Republican majority rubber stamp it, so Trump can run and Obama can't.
It’s not about what the constitution says, it’s about coming up with a reason that their die hard fans will accept, and that probably won’t be that hard
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He has the best medical care in the world and his dad lived to be 93.
Ah, but his dad wasn't eating cheeseburgers every day and refusing to work out because he thinks it'll kill him faster.
Plus, his dad was in a bad way for the last decade or so of his life.
You're right though, he could live to be 90. Which would suck. But somehow, I just have to imagine there's only so far the best medical care in the world will take you when you're on adderall and pepsi/hamburders all day.
I want to believe!
So did Steve Jobs.
All the medical expertise in the world mean jack dick if one is too much of an egomaniacal jackass to admit that the doctors may, in fact, know better than you.
Should we put all our eggs in that basket? Absolutely the fuck not, but it does still bear noting.
He's an idiot, but he does has shown a willingness to follow medical advice. He got vaccinated against covid, after all.
Yeah, Jobs is admittedly an imperfect comparison because Trump doesn't seem the type to try and combat cancer with fruit salad and good vibes (that seems like more of an RFK thing if any of them). I could, however, absolutely see Trump firing any doctor who dared suggest major lifestyle changes or anything like that until he ends up with some quack who will happily tell him whatever he wants to hear as long as the check clears. Shitcanning anyone who has the audacity to try to be the adult in the room and replacing them with whatever sycophant chortles his balls with the most enthusiasm is like half his personality. That's gonna be a major fucking hindrance to anyone who's job would involve at least occasionally giving him bad news.
Doesn't matter. Then we get Vance and the same situation continues. The GOP apparatus is a fascist movement. It's possible it dies with Dear Leader, but the next up to bat will most likely step in and not much will change.
It still isn't currently legal for him to run for a third term. This is how confident he is the law will be changed or ignored.
To be clear. It's not just "the law" it's the goddamn constitution
Just a piece of paper unless someone enforces it.
My mom used to always speed like crazy, and when people would complain, pointing to the speed limit signs, she'd always respond with something along the lines of "signs can't limit speed, let me know if you see a cop instead." Some people just don't give a shit about the forms of soft power meant to keep people in line without taking real action against them. My mom was one, and our current president is another. The funny thing is that we're going to have to ignore them as well to stop him.
The problem is, the law DOES matter for us dregs. It only doesn't apply for the wealthy.
Well, it matters for us if there's enough people to punish everyone. It's like speeding - there aren't enough traffic cops to catch every speeder, so while my mom would've gotten plenty of tickets if there were, in reality she rarely ever got one. If we organize, we can overwhelm the criminal justice system. It's not a fun prospect, and I'd really hoped we could pull ourselves out of this situation by other means, but our current president is actively advertising his plans to become a dictator - working within the system is no longer an option.
Well, if you ever get the opportunity to punch Trump in the nose, I hope you take it and more.
The Founding Fathers gave us the means to enforce it with the 2nd Amendment.
Unfortunately, the tyrants have people with far more guns and resources at their disposal. "The blood of patriots and tyrants," indeed.
They have the resources to stop many thousands of people. They do not have the force to stop millions.
The trick is getting millions of people willing to die with you together at the same time.
What we have are competent leaders. All those strong military leaders that spent their lives rising through the ranks to the highest levels, have been replaced by incompetent loyalist idiots, and now they are on our side. When it kicks off, at least half of the military rank & file will side with the competent leaders they respect, and as the MAGA military flounders, more and more will defect.
In addition, most people visualize a Civil War in which we are on our own, but that won't happen. HitlerPig has very few allies in the world, and they are generally as incompetent as he is. Right off the bat, Canada and Mexico will side with the American Patriots against the MAGA Nazis, and so will Europe, once they band together to defeat Russia.
I don't have the faith you do in our military to do the right thing, but I hope you're right.
I'm referring to "law" enforcement and the military. The MAGAts are a negligible threat.
Right back atcha.
its not wrong though
This is why they are so actively defying the courts and ignoring their rulings, especially the Supreme Court, and he'll be doing it as often as possible between now and Election Day 2025. That way, when he defies them to serve a 3rd term, it will just be the latest in a long series of violations, and people will be too fatigued to fight about it.
I agree. I should have stressed that that's their strategy, not that it will necessarily work.
Is it just wishful thinking that we don't have 3+ years until the election?
We've got to get through the 2026 mid-terms first, which will be vitally important for Democrats. This is the next big battle, and HitlerPig is almost certainly going to find a way to suspend the election, for the first time in history.
Being a convicted felon made it illegal for him to run for a second term. Still didn't stop him.
are you sure about that? theres been candidates literally in prison receiving electoral votes before
I'm sure Spongebob has received write in votes before. That doesn't make him a legal candidate.
I'm talking about this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs
You can run as a felon. You can even run for president from jail.
Since he was eligible to run, the only process (that I know of) that could've made it illegal is as a possible consequence in an impeachment conviction in the Senate.
The strategy they've been floating for years is: have two other candidates run while he runs for the house. Trump gets chosen as house speaker, meanwhile the President and VP resign, making Trump president. Then they argue this is technically constitutional since he didn't win an election to become president.
That's why it's essential that after 2026, there is a push to eliminate this loophole. It may take a constitutional change, but first it's going to take absolute annihilation of Republicans in the midterms.
What is for sure is that he is confident he can sell a fuck ton of hats!
Pretty sure this is him being confident he can grift even more money off his army of mindless cultists.
Or they will just ignore the law. Law is no barrier to this cult.
This is one law he can't ignore. If the ammendment doesn't pass the house and senate with a two thirds vote and the idiot gets sworn in for a third term, it becomes legal hunting season. He would instantly become a domestic threat to the Constitution and any US citizen could legally attack him or anyone giving him aid. The US citizens would all basically become bounty hunters, and anyone that fought back to defend the illegal third term asshole would be considered a domestic threat as well.
Pray this man is really this stupid. I kind of want to see that drama unfold.
How long ago would someone have said that about "if the president ignores a ruling of the Supreme Court in order to deport American citizens without due process"?
Or "If people in plain clothes claim to be Federal agents and grab people off the street without badges or warrants"?
Our whole government has decided Trump can do these things. Republicans follow him like a cult leader, but democrats stand by and open doors for him.
If ICE comes to someone's property they can be sent packing (and have been). If ICE stops the wrong person on the street they are likely to get messed up ... they are just customs agents. The only reason they are getting to run wild like this is because they are catching slightly ignorant people off guard (not trying to be insulting, just meaning that they don't know their rights).
There is no fix for the Supreme Court ... most of them are corrupt and need to be impeached, but they is no legal path to do it.
And if the same thing happens when Trump runs again in 2028 what will be the difference?
Trump is not eligible to run for president again. It would take a two thirds vote from both the house and senate ... it will not happen.
If he declares himself president after this second term it would be done illegally, and any US citizen could then attack him legally as a domestic threat to the Constitution. Trump is stupid, but he is not that stupid.
Trump is also not "allowed" to ignore court orders, yet here we are.
Yes, but some ignoring that portion of the Constitution and declaring themselves president illegally basically makes it legal to attack them.
The shirt on the store says "rewrite the rules" so yeah....
It won't be his third term, it'll be his fourth since the Democrats stole the 2020 election with widespread voter fraud and cheating ("the biggest fraud, and the biggest cheating, some say, many people say - and these are clever people - the biggest there has been"). So that's ok then.
He is going to ride the courts until he dies or too old to care. They had 4 years to lock him up for his previous crimes including Jan 6th. He won't see jail time and he knows it
he couldn't sleep at night because he was getting all his sleep during the hearings
Like how they put him in jail during Biden’s term?
Oh wait!
I would love to live in this fairytale land where Trump actually faces consequences, but unfortunately that will never happen and people need to face reality and focus on minimizing damage.
Trump was exactly what the world needed, to see how far it had strayed
"Power creates power. The more power you weild, the more you accumulate."
Jail? You all are more delusional than I thought.
Do you know of any dictator that was deposed by a court?
most dictators are unalived before that happens.
its not likes going to jail for state charges anyways, the courts just strung along all the cases , so they can make it look like they did something.
He wasn't actually president when they decided that
follow by example, much like benjaman has done.
He will be president for the rest of his life.
And if that's a month, two, who are we to judge God's plan or the Luigi who carries it out.
To put on my own conspiracy hat for a moment, he's getting set up to be the fall guy. He's following a playbook he didn't write, the people that did write Project 2025 know how unpopular it will be, and the final play is setting trump up as the tyrant to be deposed by a real dictator. Sure hope I'm wrong.
My worst nightmare is him getting killed right before the next election cycle ramps up and the fascists running a campaign "in memory of Trump".
Maybe they'll have kicked off the war with Iran by then too, so they can say "This is no time for a change in leadership".
Sure, everyone has seen the checks and balances in action
I'm not going to lie, this is a profitable move by Trump, because his voters will line up to get them to antagonize those outside their in group, as was the entire point of their vote, to harm their enemies as an end in itself, regardless of whether he's able to get the SCOTUS to rule that up means down and no third term means infinite terms for Republicans only.
I'm just looking forward to all the idiots giggling about their own enslavement, as I see anyone wearing that hat as a derivation of this:
I was thinking of making a sign to be carried at a protest. One side would say "Honk if you support Trump." The other side would say something like, "Only the assholes are honking."
And these hats still had to be designed, manufactured and shipped.
Meaning, this wasn't exactly done yesterday. Meaning that while Trump was publicly stating that "they want me to run for a 3rd term, but I can't" this was likely already in the works.
Not surprising in the least, but still worth pointing out and adding to the already huge pile of bs coming from him and his suckers.
No different than any other conservative playbook.
"I know nothing about project 2025"
meanwhile https://www.project2025.observer/
"The trans people are abusing our kids!"
Meanwhile, page 50: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/2/2/2221200/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-50
Edit: Latest: page 55
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/3/24/2312324/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-55
"They're spreading misinformation!"
Which is always https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO
The projection is the only thing consistent
Fantastic links here I appreciate the effort.
They’re also selling shirts that say “rewrite the rules” just under the rest of it. Oh boy.
Why rewrite the rules when you can just not follow them in the first place?
It's called pulling up the ladder or closing the door behind you. You don't want anyone else to be able to do what you do.
$50.00 for a fucking Made in China hat.
With tariffs, $120
i just assumed the corruption is so out in the open already that he will add an exemption for trump merch
Hats made in china cost about $4 before tarriffs
He's not soft launching shit. It is a fascist regime.
How is it fucking soft launching fascism? The US is already at the concentration camp step, it is already fully blown fascism.
So the movie Civil War (2024) became a reality
Some day, if conscious beings have access to our history, they may mistake Idiocracy as a documentary. I'm only kind of joking
As long as the ending remains the same....
It's weird to wear a hat that says "punch me I'm a fascist" but okay
I saw a woman in a very liberal area in the US wearing a shirt that read "Proud Conservative!"
That alone made he seem deranged to me. It would be weird even if I didn't get the distinct impression she wanted people to say something or at least feel discomfort with her advertising that she fully supports fascist dictatorship. What a fucking time to wear that shirt ...
She was wanting her persecution complex fed.
Hey, if the coup fails, these hats also work for Eric....
I'm against violence, but I'm not sure urinating and/or defecating on anyone wearing this hat counts as violence
Then maybe you're against aggression and OK with defense. Not all violence is bad.
I think I'd be surprised if he lived that long. I know he's "in perfect health" but that's getting quite up there.
Kissinger lived to be 100 years old. It's always the hateful ass holes that hang on forever.
Only the good die young, only evil seems to live forever.
I think he would run and "serve" no matter what he needs to do. Taking naps and putting brown-nosers fully to work doing his bidding 90% of the day is a small price to pay for a narcissist obsessed with being talked about
I think it will take his death or Republicans growing an ounce of spine to remove him
Or drones, specifically outfitted with guns and explosives
Welp. It was a good run, America.
Almost three hundreds years of progress undone by a man that cosplays a billionaire Cheeto.
Truly remarkable.
Longest lasting representative democracy in history, ended by a felon rapist, while a solid chunk of the country cheered.
Truly a weak, pathetic, stupid, shameful country.
Representative for who? Natives, black people, queers, anyone remotely to the left wouldn't say the US has been exactly democratic during it's time. Trump and the GOP are just the current incarnation of the settlers that massacred the indigenous people and the racists who enforced slavery and later Jim Crow and segregation. They have been a part of America since it's founding.
I think if more Americans were honest about how shitty their country has always been, maybe they could understand how Trump is merely a symptom of a deeper rot.
Oh, no, we aren't even close to finished. By the time we are done, whatever is left of the Republican party will be very sorry they started all this nonsense.
Wish I shared your enthusiasm, but Americans have sleepwalked through everything so far. I don't see that changing before it's much too late. Only thing that saved Europe was the good guys swooping in. That ain't happening in this scenario. We have to save ourselves and I don't see it happening.
A rogue president ordering the military to invade a friendly allied neighbor has never happened. Its safe to say that would be the end of trying to recover our nation through legal Constitutional methods (which is the stage we are in right now). It would instantly cause a Civil War, and would vastly reduce the military forces, as MANY military members would refuse to comply. We have many very experienced high level military leaders who would be of great use to the Canadian army, and many of our trained soldiers will support them.
The MAGA military leaders are loyalists first, and competency comes far down the list. It is likely that HitlerPig will be calling the shots, just the way Hitler did in WWII, and that was a major reason for the German's downfall. HitlerPig is even stupider than Hitler was.
How can he possibly sell $50 hats? Hasn't he sucked poor white conservatives dry yet? They've bought plenty of merch and crypto meme coins already.
I'm still unclear on exactly who is sucking who dry /s
Double entendre intended.
Always room for another credit card
Maybe there's a discount if they sign a loyalty oath or barter with the scalps of 'dangerous unhinged Marxist lefstists'?
I wish soft launching a dictatorship was insane. He has soft launched all the atrocities before this. Always starts as a joke or suggestion... Until it's not. Now here we are. This soft launch will takes all the outrage of this move and diffuse it through time and the fire hose of all the other terrible things to happen before the the next presidental election... Assuming we will have one at all.
I don't get the "rigged 2020 election" argument.
Did he forgot about his first mandate? If he won in 2020/21 it would still make 2 mandates and he theoretically would not been able to go for 2024/25.
OFC it is just a shit excuse to please his crowd, but math are math, one + one still equals two, 2020 election or not.
He got into power rigging the election with Elon, Russia, and ballotproof. He will magically get enough seats in the midterm to overturn the 22nd and be king til he dies if successful.
Republicans would have to win two thirds of state legislatures with MAGA loyalists to even bring a vote to overturn the 22nd. There is no way that happens legally, and Republicans know it. If they plan on a third Trump term, my bet is they will either be ignoring the 22nd altogether, or enacting emergency powers to suspend the entire Constitution indefinitely.
Not saying I agree with the whole 2 terms 4 years each thing americans have let alone their political system in general, but who was actually surprised? That's what fascists do, just take Mussolini.
thats what hitler does, whom trump have qouted many times.
Performative acts like that shirt are the proof-of-faith that the republiQans require. It's very tied up with Evangelical Christianity in an awful way.
MAGAts will proudly wear these acts of treason.
CW2 when
You have to soft launch your fascist dictatorship. People need time to accept the possibility.
It took a lifetime to turn the Roman Republic into the Principate. You gotta ease into these things to keep peope from shanking you on the senate floor.
Let me guess ... a 3rd term cannot end after four years but is a term for life .....
$50 hat bro is he fr 💀
...and who exactly is going to stop him? All evidence so far suggests he will continue to do whatever the fuck he wants and continue to get away with it, simply because nobody has the power or the will to stop him
Juan Merchan was obliged to do so by the law, the Constitution, and good-old ethics. But he kissed the ring, instead.
Could be a major grift, could be a very serious motion to run again, we don't know what's real because he'll try anything and knows his shit licking supporters will be right behind him to thank him. I'm skeptical but I'm ready to face the worst.
Legally the only way he could run again would be to modify the Constitution which is simply impossible since the Democrats will never agree to it.
Which means he'll have to do it the Trump way by forcing things. => 2028 comes up, he announces he's going to run again and his fanbase will support him.
=>The Republican leadership will then have to choose between supporting him again or not supporting him and splinter the party. They will probably choose to support him which will trigger probably the biggest constitutional crisis since the Civil War.
=>Democrat states and maybe a few Republican will refuse to put him on their ballots and the Supreme Courts has to get involved. A Supreme Court that is dominated by 6 Republican appointed judges at the moment (3 of whom were appointed by Trump). If more Democrat appointed judges die during his current term, then there's a fair chance he'll have complete control over it by the 2028 election. They might actually reinterpret the Constitution to let him run.
I'm honestly very concerned for the US. Maybe he chokes on a chicken wing and we can avoid this whole mess.
We've just recently seen there are only two justices willing to follow Trump off the cliff when push comes to shove.
If no-one stops him, then the US only has itself to blame.
The tangerine pufferfish has an incredible ability to say a thing enough that it becomes true enough to happen.
Prison. Now. For him and all his corrupt, openly criminal Constitution-shredding cronies. We are far past the point of hand-waving over the open criminality and corruption. And in Trump’s case, legitimate Constitutionally-defined treason. Mass arrests and convictions of these criminals needs to happen now. Right now. Even if we the people need to take care of it ourselves. Nobody is coming to save us.
He's managed to piss off everyone outside his cult. He'd be lucky to finish his second term.
There's no way he will live that long
it's ment for americans. more than soft people
I don't believe that ‘being able to be elected by voters one more time’ is even close to being the same as a ‘fascist dictatorship’.
Except it's not being able to be elected, because he's served two terms and that limitation isn't just a law, it's an amendment. I don't care how much of congress they control, changing it will require a new amendment and that's just exceedingly unlikely to happen, much less happen before the end of his current term. So if he can't change the rules, attempting to stay in power anyway is absolutely fascist dictatorship material.
The first amendment is an amendment but he ignores that one.
Ignoring the law is what makes Trump's approach dictatorial.
And that's also fascist. If we're assembling a list of the fashy shit Trump has done one by one we might be here a while.
Simple. If done by a single person or small group that is not representative of the whole, it's facism. If done with the blessing of the people, it's not.
If trump passed an amendment changing that, and did so by acquiring the proper amount of votes in all areas, that would be fine.
If he does it by saying "I can because I say so", that's facism.
I know you're just being a troll or intentionally ignorant, but that's the answer. You're intentionally stripping ALL THE NUANCE out and trying to act naive.
To be fair, that just makes it authoritarian, not fascist. It's all the other stuff he does combined with that which makes it fascist.
Fair point. I was focusing more on the "with or without the people's blessing" aspect.
Where was the question? I only see misinformed assumptions and straight falsehoods.
I refer you to my original request about stfu-ing
The 22nd amendment does not prohibit Trump from serving a third term. It prohibits Trump from being elected a third time. Weak ass document.
Your phrasing could use some help, but you're correct that there is a flaw in the text of the amendment and the Presidenial Succession rules that may allow for shenanigans.
But the clear intent is to prevent 3rd terms, and any attempt to circumvent the amendment is definitely dictator shit.
And there's the rub. You have an extremely weak and vague Constitution that everyone has so far just agreed to follow with a wink wink, nod nod. Once the first demagogue showed up, that shit went out the window.
If only it covered vice president succession as well... Oh wait....
What are you talking about? The amendment makes no mention of VP or succession.
The amendment doesn't have to because VP already has the same requirements as president in the main body of the Constitution.
Amendments are only the change being made, not reiterating what already existed. VP used to just be the second place in the presidential election.
Show me how this keeps Trump from being allowed to succeed into POTUS. Yall are backpedalling because you've never actually read the Constitution.
No, it definitely does prevent him. You can do not serve UP TO half of someone else's term BEFORE you serve your own two. It's a total of 10 years, and you cannot be VP if you're ineligible for President.
Actually, they're right. The 22nd amendment prevents someone from being elected into office after serving 2 terms or 2 terms and half of someone else's.
It's technically silent on being elevated to the Presidency by other means than an election after serving 2 terms.
The real crazy bit is that the Speaker of the House is 3rd in line, and technically doesn't have to be a member of Congress. So ttechivally the GOP could name Trump Speaker and get rid of POTUS and Veep (through resignation or impeachment/conviction) and have Trump be President again.
That definitely makes it not fascism right? :P
Biggest evidence of fascism I see is a constitution which explicitly enshrines the right to enslave people.
Yep, that's also pretty fashy, but's by no means the only fascist issue in this country.
Hitler was elected to office. Being elected doesn't mean one doesn't have fascist ambitions.
Incorrect. Hitler never won the elections he ran in. Instead, President Hindenburg appointed him after facing pressure from various directions.
You are correct, his party had won elections.
The point being that elections does not mean one is not a wannabe dictator. Perhaps a better example would be Orbán.
Not everyone is Hitler.
No one disagrees with that. But there are fascists in charge of the USA right now, and they're apparently modelling much of what they do after Mussolini and Hitler.
The guy using the same rhetoric as Hitler in his campaigns wishes he was, though...
Not all fascists are Hitler.
Did Putin write this?
Seems like there's a rise of shit takes on Lemmy today.
Edit: ... I'm on your side, people, read to the end of this novel of a post.
When Angie entered her 16th year of being German chancellor, USians yelled about dictatorship too. I had several discussions about how simply remaining in power for a long time does not mean one is a dictator, as long as free and equal elections happen. I may not have agreed with CDU voters (ever), I certainly have never voted for them, but tough.
Circumstances in this case however do suggest that he's trying to overthrow their entire system and this third term stuff is just an overt symptom of a disregard for their constitution.
what are you waffling about!? obviously not the same thing at all
What's not the same thing? I didn't say anything was the same thing as another thing?