Check mate

She doesn't have to listen to you, you're not her first or second husband.

Spirit animal goals

Ribbit against the machine?

She was laughing AT the bank too, I saw her.

Hypocrisy is the water conservative “Christians” swim in.

1 Tim. 2:11-12: “A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.”

If she were morally consistent she’d quit her “ministry” and go home.

This was the first thought I had when I read the headline.

Specifically, many believe her to be perpetuating fraud by demanding money from her followers in exchange for specific acts of prosperity provided by God (and even to ask God to smite your enemies).

Sounds like the Prosperity Gospel to me.

Fraud is a religion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil

The problem of evil is the philosophical question of how to reconcile the existence of evil and suffering with an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient God.

It's counterproductive, even for the ones that once thought it was a way to improve society. They are just being used, and should reconsider if they are doing more harm than good.

What would be more awesome? Walking on water? Or flying thru a lake at ludicrous speeds on a jet? Or same but on a jetpack? Or same but at 30,000feet on a Boeing flying machine?

Also imagine a Boeing plane sitting on 30,000 feet? Why!!!

https://lemm.ee/c/open_christian

knock yourself out

Feel free to spit in my face then.

I’d argue that what these people are spreading is about as close to Christianity as Trump’s sharpie hurricane map is to an actual hurricane though; damaging and ignorant by misleading people.

As an example, they say God orders women to submit to their husbands. They get that from a letter Paul of Tarsus wrote to a group of early Christians in response to the way a particular group of (uneducated, likely trophy) wives were behaving that wasn’t in line with Jesus’ teachings to put others before themselves, because they misunderstood the bit about Jesus being an ultimate sacrifice that freed people from Jewish law to mean that you could behave however you wanted, and all would be forgiven. Paul told them that’s not how things work, and to ask their (likely educated in Jewish law) husbands to explain it to them at home instead of disrupting public meetings by preaching junk like this.

Unfortunately, a lot if what the public sees of Christianity in the US is remixes of exactly the same things the Bible these people own directly instructs against.

Jesus was a socialist pacifist. These people attempt to re-make him in their own image, taking instructions from his immediate followers out of context to justify their behavior, totally ignoring actual direct commands like “love your enemies and do good to those who hate you.”

Because "DOGE" isn't about efficiency, but rather enforcing far-right ideology, by making anything left of Mussolini ineffective.

It's her kink for that to happen to other women, it doesn't apply to her. They're all like that.

I recently got banned for saying we should have hanged all southern traitors after the civil war

She's talking about angels coming from south america and africa to help trump win an election. Sounds to me like the church needs to be investigated for illegal immigration and voter fraud.

Lol what's up with the guy walking behind her with a towel, is he trying to leave the planet?

https://religionnews.com/2020/08/27/president-trumps-rnc-religious-base-pentecostal-charismatic-kari-jobe-paula-white/

Arguably Trump’s most ardent supporters, Pentecostal-charismatic faith-based media moguls have enjoyed unprecedented access to the White House during Trump’s tenure. In return, they have showered the president with praise and loyalty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaking_in_tongues

Speaking in tongues, also known as glossolalia, is an activity or practice in which people utter words or speech-like sounds, often thought by believers to be languages unknown to the speaker. One definition used by linguists is the fluid vocalizing of speech-like syllables that lack any readily comprehensible meaning. In some cases, as part of religious practice, some believe it to be a divine language unknown to the speaker.[1] Glossolalia is practiced in Pentecostal and charismatic Christianity,[2][3] as well as in other religions.[4]

EDIT: Also, someone on that page you linked to did a cat version:

https://old.reddit.com/r/BadChoicesGoodStories/comments/jom342/trump_voodoo_high_priestess_chanting_in_tongues/

Techno cat version is great

Because the "Heritage" foundation paid for it, and they're a bunch of Xian Fundies. Project 2025 (which Trump knows absolutely nothing about, he says so himself) is their baby.

Well because they’re Nazis

Dates back to Bush's "Office of Faith-Based Initiatives". Sounds like it gets hauled out again whenever it feels like support from the religious crowd might be a little soft.

She tops from the bottom

OMG she's a little brat

just like me if I was a weird religious zealot fr fr, nice to have representation

🤯

'about to embark on a reading of [her] 12-book epic entitled “My Favourite Bathtime Gurgles” when [her] own major intestine, in a desperate attempt to save life and creation, lept straight up through [her] neck and throttled [her] brain.'

She divorced because the husbands every day asked her how she felt and what wanted to eat, and that's unacceptable, the husbands gotta decide!

From the fantasy novel most read in the world

So, you'd think that, but maybe she's just talking to women.

If you don't figure in an "it's okay for women to teach women" angle, Proverbs 31:26 gets a little awkward:

She speaks with wisdom, and faithful instruction is on her tongue.

It's from a passage in the Bible.

Ephesians 5:22-24:

Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.  For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.  Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

usually when something happens god always sends in the angels to deal with his wrath and to signal the end times with 7 angels and trumpets. they should watch evangelion.

The American Taliban.

100% this is definitely what he's going to do. Use Christianity as a weapon, and cite things like this and the prosperity gospel, then ignore any of the messages of Christ. None of that Jesusy stuff you know?

I grew up in the Bible belt, and had some truly awful experiences with people like this that made me distance myself from identifying as a Christian for a long time. I didn't want to go to church and be around these kinds of people, but I realized I never stopped believing in the importance of the beautiful messages I learned literally from as early as I can remember.

The book of Matthew talks about Jesus passing through a city and someone asking him, of all of the information in the old testament, what is the most important to remember? Jesus answers the question by summarizing the 10 commandments into 2:

The first is love thy God with all thy heart, all thy soul, and all thy mind. The second is like unto it, love thy neighbor as thyself.

Literally a message straight from Jesus telling you, if you take away nothing else from this book, then remember these two things. JD Vance has tried to publicly argue that the second part isn't really something you necessarily have to agree with as a Christian. This is so very important to remember when they try to use Christianity as a weapon, and something I've thought about a lot.

The first message is love thy God with everything you are. The second, is like unto it (it goes without saying), love thy neighbor as thyself.

If you believe God created man in his image, and you truly love him with your entire heart, your entire mind, and your entire soul, then you must also strive to have that same love for yourself because you recognize you are part of God's creation.

In order to truly love God with everything you are, it goes without saying you must also love your neighbor and recognize your neighbor is also part of God's creation.

It’s actually going to be worse because they plan on gutting education completely

ALL ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS

With the competition removed, Shintoism soon spread across the face of the globe.

so, when are you starting this off? so easy to encourage others to d what one will not.

Lots of lunatics on Lemmy.

The good news is that there are a lot of people obviously breaking laws and colluding in and around the Trump admin, so when Republicans get wiped out in the coming elections we may see a lot of them going to prison. No democracy-ending political violence necessary.

She look like she was made from a McRib

damn I wasnt expecting that

Sec. 2. Establishing a Task Force to Eradicate Anti-Christian Bias. (a) There is hereby established within the Department of Justice the Task Force to Eradicate Anti-Christian Bias (Task Force).

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/eradicating-anti-christian-bias/

If God wasn't real, corrupt leaders would invent him.

Lol I just said the opposite and I scroll down to this.

Other point of view.

kagis

https://www.wsj.com/business/media/sales-of-bibles-are-booming-fueled-by-first-time-buyers-and-new-versions-d402460e

Sales of Bibles Are Booming, Fueled by First-Time Buyers and New Versions

Publishers attribute a 22% jump in Bible sales this year to rising anxiety, a search for hope, or highly focused marketing and designs

https://archive.ph/hfFIp

The Pew Research Center found that about 28% of adults in the U.S. now consider themselves religiously unaffiliated. Yet Bible sales rose to 14.2 million in 2023 from 9.7 million in 2019, and hit 13.7 million in the first 10 months of this year. Readers are also stocking up on related titles that provide guidance, insights and context—even sets of stickers to flag particularly meaningful passages.

“People are experiencing anxiety themselves, or they’re worried for their children and grandchildren,” said Jeff Crosby, president of the Evangelical Christian Publishers Association. “It’s related to artificial intelligence, election cycles…and all of that feeds a desire for assurance that we’re going to be OK.”

Tell her that that great moral authority, the Trump administration, says otherwise.

You misunderstand; its Ministry (the band) /s

Trump isn't even Christian. That much is obvious.

It's a broader sense of the word "ministry".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_ministry

Christian ministry is the vocational work of living and teaching about faith, in the hopes of increasing the population of God's people done by the church, church officials, congregational members, and Jesus followers. The Cyclopedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature defines Christian ministry as "to denote a devotion to the interests of God's cause, and, in a technical sense, the work of advancing the Redeemer's kingdom".[1] All ministry may fall under the call of, the Great Commission, that Jesus presented to his disciples to continue the spread of the Gospel.

While the spread of the Gospel is every believers purpose, the primary and only vocation of the bible is to live a life aligned with God, as his children, towards the purpose of displaying the love of Jesus through one's actions and decisions. Some see vocation as one's true calling professionally, yet others see it as a furthering of God's kingdom not the occupation, like Maitland states "the work itself is not the vocation".[2] Vocation calls Christian ministry to reach all aspects of ones life, a way of life many believe. In short, Christian ministry, as a whole, is any vocational work done for the sake of the Great Commission.

Someones ministry is shaped by what they feel called to do. Vocation can be any activity as a whole, or specific activities, or organizations within a church dedicated to specific activities. Some ministries are identified formally as such, and some are not; some ministry is directed towards members of the church, and some towards non-members.

Now, personally, I think that sticking Trump into that category is pretty bonkers too, but what I'm getting at is that she's not saying that he's an ordained priest or anything like that.

I don't think that the Bible prohibits commanding a woman to command. Checkmate, Scripture.

It is hard to read that kind of statement without thinking about a wide variety of toys and things to do with them.

If you believe women came from a rib, then you must accept that women were meant to be as equals to men.

Read one chapter further in Genesis. Women's subordination to man is a punishment resulting from Eve's role in original sin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin

Original sin (Latin: peccatum originale) in Christian theology refers to the condition of sinfulness that all humans share, which is inherited from Adam and Eve due to the Fall, involving the loss of original righteousness and the distortion of the Image of God. The biblical basis for the belief is generally found in Genesis 3 (the story of the expulsion of Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden), and in texts such as Psalm 51:5 ("I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me") and Romans 5:12–21 ("Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned").

Genesis 3:

The Fall

Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

“You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden. But the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?”

He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.”

And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”

The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”

Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,

“Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.

And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”

To the woman he said,

“I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”

To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’

“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.

It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.

By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”

Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living.

The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

1 Timothy 2:11-15

A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.