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Trump administration orders half of national forests open for logging

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/28106135

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An emergency order removes protections covering more than half the land managed by the U.S. Forest Service as the president aims to boost timber production.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2025/04/05/trump-administration-orders-half-national-forests-open-logging/Open linkView original on sh.itjust.works
sh.itjust.works

No one will save the US, this administration is going to let everyone and everything be gutted.

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Snowclonereply
lemmy.world

A lot of JRPGs were pretty clear on the alightment and heroism of ecoterrorists.

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jjjalljsreply
ttrpg.network

I sometimes wonder about people who played final fantasy 7 but are conservative. Like, did you just blank out everything except tifa's tits and cool swords? They're ecoterrorists fighting against a corporation. Be like Barret.

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someguy3reply
lemmy.world

No one can save the US. This is what people voted for (including the protest non voters!), and that's how government is supposed to work: do what it was voted in for.

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sh.itjust.works

The dude cheated. Come on, there is no way around it. He legally cheated by gerrymandering and having his minions doing the cheating for him, but he cheated.

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By any sane reading of the constitution he should have been barred from running again due to having been part of an insurrection. But SCOTUS said nah let the voters decide.

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lemm.ee

Unless you vote Democrat, and then it's "We tried to do the one thing and Joe Lieberman bullied us :(" or "sure, we'll get you internet, just submit to this seven year 36-point process before we can disperse the funds; we even kept it down to 18 subcommittees!" or "we're going to build a high speed train over thirty years, fund it with a one-time bond allowance, and make sure it costs ten times more than we funded it for, but don't worry, federal grants will make up for it, right? Right? Why are you looking at me like that? Right?"

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lemm.ee

Pro tip: you're allowed to be critical of the people you vote for. They won't explode in a puff of wishes and fairy dust with a thunderous "oh well".

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Allowed to be critical? No one but the DNCs most senior staff would be dumb enough to not be highly critical of all the dumbass choices they made that doomed that election. Fucking Dick Chaney? Why in the holy fuck would you think a highly publicized Chaney endorsement would A: make a single Trump cultist give any level of interest in voting against the orange one, or B; not deflate your voter base because we ALL STILL REMEMBER WHY WE HATE DICK CHANEY!!

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TWeaKreply

I'm just awaiting the government investing all these "savings" and the money raised through tariffs into an obvious crypto scam, which then fails spectacularly and predictably and all the US taxpayer money conveniently disappears into the pockets of those running the scam (which totally won't involve Elon Musk).

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Just in case, a hole saw to put the exterior of the tree back over the place being staked, so its less obvious.

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lemmy.world

What a stupid fucking move. Here in Oregon there are so many logging scars and shitty areas that were once beautiful old growth forests. The destruction logging leaves in its wake is sobering, terrifying and disgusting. We already have areas that are fucked up, monoculture wastelands. Keep raping that until we get our shit together.

I can’t wait to read the big headline. Until then, they better fucking gridlock this in the courts.

Cunts. All of them. Maybe we could get them to go stand out in the woods holding some branches.

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lemmy.world

The wildest part is what necessitated making this an emergency order, what's the emergency? Corporations aren't making enough money?

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'because of fentanyl' is a stretch. It's the given excuse not the actual reason.

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Someone needs to fucking do it 9 months ago.

Wait...they missed. Fuck!

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We stuffed and mounted the Lorax decades ago. Now our house is burning down and we dunno whyyy

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lemmy.ml

Ooh, RAPE the forest. I thought he said RAKE the forest.

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Fucking conservatives online are touting this as a win, since "they [ephemeral] are already mismanaging the forests, and what sections are they logging, and it's not clear cutting, etc."

It's sick that they can't even state that this is bad.

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If only there was a sustainable source nearby…maybe even a longtime free trade partner…

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Based on my googling, theres a severe labor shortage in logging. Hopefully we get the chance to overturn this before much damage is done. This EO and tariffs are unlikely to spur much investment if the possibility remains that they'll just get overturned in 3 years. IF we get another election.

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lemmy.world

Are sawmills and crews suddenly going to spring up to process all the new timber? Also, those trees aren't necessarily construction quality species.

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lemmy.world

Honestly all I can think is can America please die quietly. Your refusing to fight for yourself so why should we give a fuck

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donreply

I was under the assumption no cared about them.

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lemm.ee

Honestly, what's the difference between logging in one make-believe-border geographic area vs another? Isn't it doing the same damage to this planet in the long run?

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There are woodland species and grassland species. The grassland extends into the woodlands quite a bit. Even a small clearing in the middle of heavy woods makes a big dent in available woodland for species. Having large, unbroken areas of forest are essential for survival of the plants and animals that live there.

That's how a songbird researcher explained it to me.

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