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sh.itjust.works

Initially. Still annoying but title is misleading.

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catloafreply
lemm.ee

I need a fucking online subscription to buy a controller???

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lemmynsfw.com

At least it gives people who are using their switches a chance to buy one, instead of them selling out in seconds to a network of bot accounts before winding up on eBay for $300+ the following week.

It’s not the perfect system, but I can understand why they are doing it.

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catloafreply
lemm.ee

I am using my Switch just fine without an online subscription. I guess Nintendo thinks I am using it wrong.

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ABCDEreply
lemmy.world

Right, but he sub is shareable and a pretty cheap barrier for entry... and required to play those GameCube games anyway.

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I don't need it to play Smash with friends on the couch.

Really I shouldn't need the subscription for GC ports either. What's wrong with making them individual purchases like on the 3DS? (Answer: that's not monthly recurring revenue.)

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Zedstrianreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Nintendo opting to forgo selling retro games piecemeal and instead expecting consumers to rent access to them in perpetuity is an anti-consumer move.

I have no problem paying for games when they're sold at affordable, reasonable prices, so until that's the case for Nintendo's library, better to just emulate as much of it as possible.

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Sure, but that's a different issue; I agree with that. Don't forget that if you even are allowed to 'buy' them, they will close the online service for that platform in the future with no guarantee you can use it on another platform.

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shawn1122reply
lemm.ee

They must enter a unique switch serial number (that corresponds with inventory) to make the purchase? Don't see why it has to be contigent on a subscription.

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That would work if serial numbers weren't visible without even opening the box the device came in, and I'm they are even included on the receipt for the device. Scalpers would absolutely have a ton of serial numbers just lying around from unsold devices, or even devices they sold and just hope the owner of won't bother attempting a purchase of the thing they are scalping.

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catloafreply
lemm.ee

Make enough of them that scalping isn't profitable.

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I mean, there’s plenty of reasons to not like Nintendo, but this whole thing is because the GameCube coming to their Online subscription. So I mean… it makes sense.

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I mean, it's Nintendo - if there was a way to somehow automatically charge your card every time you say, hear or think the words "Nintendo", "Mario" and such, they'd do it without hesitation...

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canreply
sh.itjust.works

That's been standard for the switch retro controller releases. And yes it's been bullshit the entire time. I would have liked an N64 one.

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ABCDEreply
lemmy.world

But you don't have the sub (cheap when sharing a family pack) so you can't play the N64 games anyway.

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Wispy2891reply
lemmy.world

How I can't play N64 games without a subscription? 🏴‍☠️

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ABCDEreply
lemmy.world

Because you need it to play them on Switch.

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unless you stumble on a brick, fall down and accidentally install a rp2040 on the switch, then accidentally flash picofly when trying to understand what's going on

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mander.xyz

A controller that is useful only when you have that online subscription to play the back catalogue, yes.

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alsreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

The new switch has a whole button that doesn't work without a paid online subscription 🤪

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Lemmy 24/7: "if its free, you're the product"

Lemmy on Nintendo: "Why should I pay for online play?! It needs to be free, moderated, and exist indefinitely even after the obsolescence of the product. Otherwise, I'm entirely justified in pirating everything."

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Well that got me all worked up for no reason, didn't it.

Thanks for the clarification.

COME ON, OP!

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Copernicanreply
lemmy.world

Lol yeah. It makes sense. You don't want your peripheral for the console to sell out to buyers that just want to use it for emulation.

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It will. But for the first run you don't want people buying the console and paying for the switch GameCube access to have to ability to buy a GC controller. It's like how for sports teams season ticket holders usually get some first access to buy playoff tickets.

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lemm.ee

But... I want it for emulation.... Any good reliable 3rd party out there?

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NYXI Wizard maybe

Or search on Etsy for a refurbished controller and just use an adapter to connect it to PC. Though many sellers only sell Phob GCC. It’s a modded GC controller with a custom motherboard. It uses Hall Effect sensors so the sticks will never ever experience drift. It’s expensive though. Like here is a fancy one for $325 https://sagecustomcontrollers.com/products/phob-gcc

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Remember, Nintendo tried to sue a grocery store in Costa Rica. Maybe don’t support them.

Remember Nintendo… please feel free to list the hundred other crappy things they did here.

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lemmy.world
  • Periodically killing mods and fan projects
  • going after palworld
  • using last-gen hardware in their consoles
  • never decreasing prices
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lemmy.blahaj.zone

using last-gen hardware in their consoles

I mean there’s nothing inherently wrong with that (if only they charged last-gen prices as well lol)

but anyways here’s a bunch more shit they’ve done:

  • charging full price for basic rereleases
  • removing reviews from the switch eshop
  • killing emulation projects
  • patenting basic gameplay elements
  • sued a man so hard he was forced to pay them part of his income for the rest of his life

and for a few older ones, just to show that they’ve been shitty this whole time, actually:

  • attempting to kill game cheating devices (like the game genie)
  • attempting to kill video game rentals
  • preventing 3rd parties from releasing games on competitor’s consoles, essentially giving themselves a monopoly

(also they’re partly owned by the saudi government, so, there’s that)

(and pls remember that, despite all of their shit, nintendo is far from the worst. it's a systemic problem, not an individualist one. remember that ubisoft covered up sexual assault for years and that microsoft is literally engaging in genocide. the problem is that capitalism lets these companies get away with it.)

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I wouldn't go as far a stating that it's mainly a systemic problem. Individual choices also matter to some degree.

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It’s ironic considering their early days in gaming. They were targeted by Universal over a BS lawsuit for using “Kong” in Donkey Kong and him being a gorilla like King Kong.

Now they’re pulling the same crap on smaller people/businesses and also working with the very company who did the lawsuit to bring their games to the movies.

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I’ve been waiting years for 8bitdo the make a fully functional clone and they haven’t yet.

The closest they've come is a retrofit electronics kit for the OG shell last year.

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lemmy.world

Bullshit. They are doing that to cause a fever of pre-orders in the US despite the tariffs. Within a year, they will be on shelves.

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JoeTheSanereply
lemmy.world

Yeah, I saw that, but I read it as they were not doing them on the same date to do a wait-and-see with the Cheeto-faced shitgibbons tariffs.

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I believe that's correct. And as others have pointed out this is likely an anti-scalping measure which changes my view on it.

I do however hope they will keep a good stock of them. Having to be a subscriber is annoying enough but even when I was one I was never able to be quick enough when N64 ones went back in stock.

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Or they will be worth their weight in gold like GameCube Component cables

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Yes, Nintendo! Please paywall my nostalgia of the very first game console I ever played! Charge me an exorbitant price during an economic crisis to satisfy my childlike need to regress to a time before I understood what money was!

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Mikrochipreply
feddit.org

Hang on, Nintendo fans are into findom? That would explain a few things. On a related note, I think I finally understood why people keep giving Chris Roberts money for Star Citizen.

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I mean, I bought the starter ship for SC which was 40€ I believe and I still play occaisonally. I'd say I definitely got my money's worth out of that game.

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slrpnk.net

I have the version that was made for the OG Switch and the build quality is garbage tier. Developed stick drift in both sticks in less than a month.

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canreply
sh.itjust.works

Really? I have the Wii U ones and they put up with a lot of abuse. The rubber on some sticks have completely deteriorated but they still input accurately.

It's honestly what's made me so bitter about the Joy Cons.

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I'm intrigued to see if the new switch, with its higher price tag, lasts any longer or if it's gimped to make consumers keep buying replacements again.

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Totally, my white Wii U one turned to SNES-Yellow overnight lol First the bottom half, just overnight, then two weeks later the top half.

Still going strong after 4500 hours of smashing

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Nintendo is just dedicated to shooting themselves in the foot as hard as possible with this launch aren't they?

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Average reaction of a Nintendo fanboy to abuse:

Step 1: this is expensive

Nintendo: kawaiiiiii

Step 2: shut up and take my money you cute souless overlord

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sure i'll only buy my contollers for nintendo consoles from 8bitdo from now on. good idea, nintendo.

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I can't buy any of their classic controllers here in Norway. Never understood why we were left out.

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Nintendo keeps shooting themselves in the foot. On one hand, as a PCMRer and massive fan of Valve, I'm glad to see how many are open to moving over here. On the other hand, Nintendo was the last console manufacturer I actually liked (despite their anti-emulation crusade) and so it's like a death of an era.

The future really is in console-like PCs a la the Steam Deck and Valve's upcoming Fremont.

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lemmy.ca

The Nintendo GameCube (GCN) Controller – Nintendo Classics will be exclusively available for Nintendo Switch Online members and will initially only be offered to those invited to pre-order a Nintendo Switch 2 console

Does this suggest I can buy it later or am I going to have to pay scalper price if I want it?

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I think you can buy it later. They still sell all the NES, SNES and N64 controllers on their website.

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I think you'll always need NSO sub if buying directly from Nintendo, but pre-order rule only seems to be because of scalpers, so that only those who can actually use it, buy it.

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That one was a reissue of the original GameCube controller with the original connector and everything. It works on the original GameCube and Wii and with the USB adapter that was released with it, you can use it or any other GameCube controller on the WiiU, Switch and maybe even Switch 2.

This new controller looks like a GameCube controller, but is something entirely new. It is a modern wireless controller that mimics the GameCube controller shape and button layout but won't work on the original GameCube, at least not without some additional adapter hardware

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