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'We're all dead': GOP senator reacts to Trump tariffs

Summary

Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) warned of uncertainty over Trump’s sweeping new tariffs, saying, “In the long run, we’re all dead,” and slammed blind loyalty to the policy.

While Kennedy didn’t vote against Trump’s emergency tariff powers—unlike four GOP senators—he criticized the lack of clarity on economic impacts.

Trump imposed a 10% baseline tariff on all imports, falsely claiming foreign nations will bear the cost.

Kennedy told Newsmax that predictions on the tariffs’ effects are unreliable, adding anyone claiming certainty is “lying” or “selling deep stupid.”

'We're all dead': GOP senator reacts to Trump tariffshttps://www.huffpost.com/entry/john-kennedy-reacts-to-donald-trump-tariffs_n_67eea442e4b092af721e0bebOpen linkView original on lemmy.world

"idiot votes for thing he is absolutely against"

like all conservatives, they lack the will or ability to think or act like autonomous human beings.

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classicreply
fedia.io

The political system is inherently set up for politicians to compromise for their self-interest — because money. For personal profit and/or to get re-elected. There was a decent New Yorker article I read on the matter a few years ago that suggested something along the lines that, even if a politician begins their career with the best intentions, the process of getting elected for higher and higher offices erodes those intentions. That's even if they had any decent intentions to begin with, of course.

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That's what would happen if something like Career Politicians were allowed to take over the system...

Oh wait... That happened decades ago... 🤦‍♀️ 🙄

🤡 🖕 🖕

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lemmy.ca

Politicians need to leave their opinions at the door. Their job is to express the will and goals of the people they represent.

We need to vote more dead weight out.

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Their job is to express the will and goals of the people they represent.

Citizens United has entered the chat

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they need mitch mcconnell to tell them what to do, unfortunately hes staying away like the snake he is from this mess. the true mastermind of the gop in the party was MITCH.

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lemmy.sdf.org

While Kennedy didn’t vote against Trump’s emergency tariff powers

Shut the fuck up then, Senator. Your vote matters. Your comments don't.

One more dinosaur who thinks people should give a fuck about things other than his actual actions. Pure distraction.

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lemmy.world

News that I was forced to listen to in the break room at work said that the tariffs will be good for America and long as the country don't put retaliatory tariffs that they just lay down and take them then Trump won't add more. Seriously tired of our media bending the knee for trump and lying to thier listeners.

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lemmy.sdf.org

forced to listen to in the break room at work

What "news" was this, if you don't mind me asking?

Totally agree that US media is a shell of what used to be journalism. Profits control all.

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Nope locally owned. They love letting us know that. Just owmed by Trump loving people.

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lemmy.world

Came here to ask same question. I understand crazytown far right talk radio, but if this was something else, I'd be curious what it was.

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I was fine with the rape and the fraud and the endless lies and the misogyny and the racism and the homophobia and the transphobia and the corruption and the police brutality and the caged babies and the disappearing of citizens and the terrorism and the attempted coup and the autocracy and the ending the rule of law and the threats to invade neighboring countries and the building-a-golf-resort-on-top-of-a-genocide, but now he's giving Wall Street the jitters, so I'm not so sure about this guy any more.

credit to https://mstdn.social/@Nickiquote/114275545356485888

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lemmy.world

What a misleading headline. The full quote from the article is:

“In the long run, we’re all dead,” he told CNN’s Manu Raju on Capitol Hill for “The Lead with Jake Tapper” on Wednesday. “Short run matters, too. Nobody knows what the impact of these tariffs is going to be on the economy.”

So he's not saying "we're all dead [as a result of this action]" he's just giving a shitty excuse for making foolish decisions.

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He's hedging his bets because he wants to get re-elected. And if you fall on the wrong side of this you are 100% going to get shit fucked in the next election cycle.

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Exactly. It seems people really need it spelled out to them: he's saying protectionism works in the long term but they're old and will all be dead(a keynes quote "The long run is a misleading guide to current affairs. In the long run we are all dead"). He's wrong though. Protectionism, which are essentially self sanctions, can develop an industry as much as not. Nothing's a vacuum.

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lemmy.world

If only these Republicans "speaking out" against Trump decimating the economy were members of some kind of political body with the power to stop this executive overreach...

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The problem is their aren’t enough of them willing to speak up so the few that might don’t wish to lose their power, so they remain quiet convincing themselves they are doing the right thing by “living to fight another day”.

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shouldve convicted him the first 2 times he was impeached, but mitch mcconell has his money and left you all to your fate.

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feddit.org

What has to happend to cancel a political party? Like, officially?

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Sanctusreply
lemmy.world

The People string up the leaders from the street, historically.

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We're much more civilized and advanced as a society compared to those days. Surely we can make laser guillotines with a machine that can process the corpse into compostable material.

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Really, the only difference is how much blood you want to see. Result's pretty much the same.

Considering modern US history you could put them in high school, I guess?

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Ignore the edgy teenagers.

IIRC most recently (as in, 100+ years ago)

  • the anti-slavery movement

  • the pure force of Teddy Roosevelt's personality

There was also the "Southern strategy" where the Democratic and Republican party basically flipped due to racism.

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Depends on your country. In countries with proportional representation you can vote for the party you like. If you're voting tactically you're down to the coalition you like.

E.g. here in Norway we get minority coalitions all the time. It's fine. They have to (gasp) cooperate with others to get anywhere.

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He's pulling a McConnell (blocked impeachment consequences both times), have all the power to prevent it and do nothing, then complain when shit happens because of you to try to shift the blame.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Any military workers/veterans in here? When are you gonna uphold your sworn oath to the constitution?

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I've been screaming my head off against that asshole for ten years, and I can't rally democrats to do anything more than play tambourine and sing kumbaya.

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Kitty Jynxreply
lemmy.world

A very highly placed officer would have to take the first step. Servicemen have no access to their weapons or ammunition, this goes double for anything heavier than a rifle. To gain access to any sort of weapons it would take a large conspiracy. Without proper organization and a supply chain even the most capable individual is just a lone crank.

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in4apennyreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

A very highly placed officer would have to take the first step.

They too have sworn an oath, not only talking about infantry or gruntworkers. More and more that oath seems like a joke.

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they wont, until the economy collapses, and the federal government loses control.

How many times do we have to explain this, before it starts to make sense. Either you lose control of the military, and the military seizes power (not advantageous to you in this case)

or the entire society and government structure around it collapses, and it's basically a free for all power grab because nobody has anything to lose.

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In the long run, we’re all dead

Yeah, that's the plan. But you guys could have predicted that because we all did.

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lemmy.world

“I mean, granted, I did absolutely no homework about tariffs, nor did I take what basically amounted to all of the economists warnings in consideration, but doggone it, I really thought this con-artist was on to something - and to that, I can’t help but feel a little misled. Is it really my responsibility to make the best decisions for my constituents? Accountability is for suckers and leaders.”

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feddit.org

I did absolutely no homework about tariffs

Yep, it's this bit that really got me:

While Kennedy didn’t vote against Trump’s emergency tariff powers he criticized the lack of clarity on economic impacts.

Understandable for some hillbilly gop voter to complain like that, but a senator? It's his job to make informed decisions!

And what are the chances he knew, and didn't vote against it regardless? Assuming Signalgate shows us the average intelligence of the current government, I'd say 50/50.

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Ledericasreply
lemm.ee

good thing this is not the kennedy related to brainworms and his family.

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Dam maybe they should stop voting for it and enabling it.

It's like they want to support a fascist coup and not be executed when it goes wrong.

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Senator Kennedy can go fuck himself for enabling Trump for the last decade. I’m glad he can see the disaster that’s going to swallow him and his colleagues coming.

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In the long run, we’re all dead

Isn't Foghorn Leghorn quoting Keynes here? Why, I thought Keynes [1] was right up there with Bill Ayers and Saul Alinsky [2] in the pantheon of Bad Guys the cons don't know a fucking thing about but constantly talk about.

[1] I'm still convinced a lot of racist dumbfucks thought that Keynesian had something to do with Kenyan, because Obama is Blah.

[2] I remember in the height of qons talking about "Alinsky style politics" I'd ask them to explain what they mean by that? Also, have they read Rules for Radicals? If so, what is so bad in there? What is the book about? I also asked them if the mere use of satire is "Alinsky style politics" does that mean Mark Twain had a time machine and he traveled into the future to get tips from Alinsky or something? Hilarity would ensue...

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Didn’t they try to tie Hilary to Alinsky too? Ms. “Super predators” herself.

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John Kennedy should be drinking Night Train Express from a paperbag behind the Circle K. He's helped assure that the billionaires will eventually become trillionaires once they vulture all the tanked stocks. He'll be rewarded for it, don't you worry your pretty head about his "concerns".

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John Kennedy is a shrewd little rat fuck piece of shit. Highly educated, despite his carefully curated backwater shit kicker persona. I dare say he’s a canary in the coal mine.

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Oh cheer up republicans! In 60 years there'll be more idiots who might vote for you. Unless they ever ask any old person why they're homeless.

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lemy.lol

That's my thinking here, like... Is he the first of many to realize they were wrong? Or will most of them just go down with the cult ship shouting praise the whole way?

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They always express their concerns as soon as they have finished voting in favor.

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they are know reminiscing they will end up like cheney and kazinger.

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Again, fucking over working Americans isn't the issue, working white Americans that voted for this btw, not about their own jobs.

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"In the long run we're all dead" is just a quote from John Maynard Keynes IIRC (Keynesian economics)

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Only four Republican senators Wednesday — Rand Paul (Ky.), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), Mitch McConnell (Ky.) and Susan Collins (Maine)

This is a wild list of hold outs. Couple of BS "center"ists, the functional leader of the GOP for the last few decades and a batshit libertarian extremist. Fuck all 4 of em anyways, monsters every single one. But gawdamn what a collection.

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mitch being the primary cause of this whole mess, hes just saving face for his lich self.

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as long as putins machine works its way through the gop, white supremecist groups and right wing news sources, they wont be dead enough.

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It must be nice to be dead and still able to live comfortably. Are they really worried about re-election? Who are their constituency going to vote for, a Democrat?

I was there for the "Republican Autopsy." It wasn't a death throe of the party at all. They reconfigured themselves in to a memetic virus of toxic masculinity and populism, built on a foundation of conspiracy-oriented magical thinkers and their fear of everything different from themselves. Republican voters don't give a damn about reality, they vote like they do so they can live in and perpetuate a mad fantasy. They will never stop, it's all they have.

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Fossilized moderate democrats getting an erection for the first time since their 80th birthday at the thought of running on 2004 republicanism: "MOVE OVER LEFTISTS, IT'S OUR TURN IN THE SUN"

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