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'Sobering reality' for Trump as he rages at night to friends about negative press: report

Summary

Seventy days into his second term, Donald Trump faces growing internal turmoil and public backlash. Allies report he’s making late-night angry calls, upset over negative press and policy setbacks.

The "Signalgate" scandal and GOP resistance to new tariffs have shaken his administration. Trump blames National Security Adviser Mike Waltz for a messaging blunder and resents criticism of his deportation efforts.

His attempts to end wars in Gaza and Ukraine have faltered.

Republicans fear economic fallout from his trade policies, raising concerns about recession and inflation.

'Sobering reality' for Trump as he rages at night to friends about negative press: reporthttps://www.rawstory.com/angry-trump-phonecalls/Open linkView original on lemmy.world
lemmy.world

He has two options: 1) Stop doing stupid shit, or 2) Destroy the media, replace it with propaganda outlets.

Guess which one he'll do.

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Rhaedasreply
fedia.io

You forgot #3, do something else crazy to try and distract from this failure. But #2 is definitely in the cards as well.

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#2 is happening, but it's too hard for Trump - fortunately for him there are people with their own agendas to do it for him. #3 is his only move because he can't conceive of a better strategy.

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lemmy.world

People with their own agendas = opportunists who can see that Trump is 78 years old

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entwine413reply
lemm.ee

They'll have him killed if his lifestyle doesn't do it for them. He's only alive as long as he's useful to them.

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lemmy.ca

The fact that McHitler hasn't stroked out by now is all the proof I really need to say that there is no god directing all this shit.

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Crikestereply
lemm.ee

Around 13,000 children under the age of 5 die every day. I’d love to see god explain that lol

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Lucifer: I'm not in the business of murdering innocent children. That's God's jurisdiction.

- The Devil's Carnival

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"We didn't start the fire. It's always been burning since the world's been turning..."

God: "No, yeah, that was me. I started it. Flicked over the first domino. Still watching the picture unfold. Quite the sight, wish you could see it."

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lemmy.world

Been thinking about that myself, with my shitty religious upbringing. This is what god wants. And, if you're Jewish and you've at least heard the phrase "god's chosen people," I just wonder how you square that with one of the worst people to live having killed 6 million of them. God was really looking out for the chosen people that day, let me tell ya...

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My dad is 60 and has had a stroke in Janurary. He's far from perfect, but he's been a good role model for me, made me a better person, and helped me when I realized my mom was more insane each passing day.

This fucker is the oldest president, looks worse than his age, is angry 24/7, and hasn't had one.

Life is a cruel joke.

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drhodlreply
lemmy.world

If god, in the christian, all-knowing and all-powerful sense even exists, she must fucking hate us, because she allowed Drumf to happen. I could never venerate a god who is that callous and spiteful.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

He - and if there is a God, I am convinced he is a he, because no woman could or would ever fuck things up this badly.

St. George Carlin

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Maybe who you think god is is all wrong? Maybe it's the other guy or girl or it who's really in charge.

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entwine413reply
lemm.ee

Unless Trump is the antichrist, then God intended for it to happen.

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Ledericasreply
lemm.ee

hes a low-level demon escaped from hell, anti-christ would have been able to warp reality one of the key feature of its powers

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Sanctusreply
lemmy.world

Maybe God isnt all powerful and is forced to watch all she made kill itself over and over in ever more savage ways.

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lemmy.ca

And the media is playing softball with him. This is the media not calling him out on all his bullshit.

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Exactly. If we actually had a real oppositional "liberal media", they'd be tearing this asshat a new one for his dumbfuckery.

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lemm.ee

I thought he would’ve been impeached by now. I am a bit surprised he hasn’t been.

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lemmy.world

The orange cunt would have an aneurysm if only the "Press" actually treated him fairly. Instead they sane wash his bullshit, and tiptoe around him without ever using the words "Liar", "convicted felon" or "rapist"..... The press have never treated anyone so favorably, and still he whines and cries like a stuck little pig. He gets $1 billion free publicity every single day. Fuck him with a cactus. No lube ! Edit: And fuck the press! They are responsible for Drumpf!

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P00ptartreply
lemmy.world

Leave the poor cactus out of this. This is why man invented angle grinders.

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sh.itjust.works

What about providing him gympie-gympie toilet paper?

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Ledericasreply
lemm.ee

MSM heavily benefited from trump being center of attention, and most of them are owned by conservatives anyways. just like fb, youtube, reddit right wing gaffes drives traffic.

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drhodlreply
lemmy.world

Time to make their actions criminal imo, although that is just a pipedream currently. They are all traitors.

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lemmy.world

If we ever get out of this mess and have our own version of the Nuremberg trials I hope to see many media execs and on-air personalities (obviously especially but not limited to those of Fox News) hanged for their part in all of this.

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lemmy.ca

Who knew that hiring people based on how much they suck up to you would mean that everyone on your team (including yourself) is incompetent?

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Melatoninreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

It seemed like a good idea at the time.

I mean, it's worked for him in the private sector. Didn't scale up.

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He also seemingly selected some of them by watching what they did on the TeeVee. I guess he thought that's pretty much how HE got there, since he had that stupid game show, so....

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His attempts to end wars in Gaza and Ukraine have faltered?

What plans? He's not even tried to do either one in even a meaningless, symbolic way.

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I'm so fucking tired of the incessant sane-washing. Just constant gaslighting from all sides to make me feel crazy for freaking out about this shit. I'm sick of it

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sh.itjust.works

For real, what a braindead (at best) thing to say. His attempts to ethnically cleanse Palestine and build resorts on the coast, and his attempts to steal mineral wealth from Ukraine while under brutal attack by Russia, those attempts have faltered? Yeah, thankfully they have, I'm sure he's still trying though.

I'm so tired of all the "reasonable language" used for this administration. It just amounts to flat out lying to avoid upsetting the very worst fucking people. Again - at best - that's me being charitable, there are even worse motivations than that of course.

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his son-in law of his daughter he lusts, kushner has planned real estate there too.

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His plan was to pressure them the way he’s used to pressuring people in his business dealings. The only problem is that countries like Ukraine aren’t just businesses that he can stiff, drag to court, etc.

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lemmy.world

I'm supposing this dumbfuck really thought he was going to get praise for this?

The problem is that he's been safely ensconced in a bubble his entire fucking life. He's Patient Zero when it comes to rich white failsons failing upwards, FFS.

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He thought he could make more fake deals and get good press, but the nihilist tech bro backed death cult had other ideas.

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aaa999reply
lemmy.world

yeah some progressive senator/rep was saying this was actually 10d chess on trump's part to extract concessions from industries in exchange for tariff relief, and, maybe, but also, you know, there is the other explanation

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this was actually 10d chess on trump’s part to extract concessions

It’s called a shakedown. Instead of actually talking to someone, start by threatening them then extract concessions. Best deal maker ever

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lemmy.ca

He is surprised that he's getting bad press. That's how stupid Trump is. Not only does he think the things he's doing are good ideas, he legitimately thinks people will actually praise him for doing it.

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Once he sees not everyone will he'll start censoring those who don't. He's fixated on getting things done his way regardless of how it affects anyone else.

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lemmy.curiana.net

It will end up like brexit. Most people who voted for him will stay in the sect no matter what. When enough people finally switch to hand power back to the democrats it will be too late to simply reverse most of what Trump did and slow rebuilding will start. If Democrats elect competent leaders they will actually fix things. If not they will just continue working with what Trump left for them (like with Starmer)

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lemmy.world

and slow rebuilding will start.

And then Democratic voters will get complacent, or get all pissy about how their pet project for change isn't getting enough attention fast enough, and not vote the next time leading to a Republican getting back in office BECAUSE SURELY THAT WILL HELP THEIR FUCKING PRECIOUS INTERESTS. It worked out so~ well this past Fall, didn't it? Nothing at all~ to be concerned about, worried about, uncertain about, or terrified about now.

If Democrats elect competent leaders

Pelosi and Schumer, and all their fanbois (people listening to them even when they aren't in office), would need to go.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

This is just how he is. He did the same in his first term. If you took away anger and resentment, he wouldn't have a lot else left in his life.

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I also love how he ran as a reformer candidate, as if we didn't have 4 years of evidence of him accomplishing nothing of value for his voters. Social media and 24/7 news have given us all goldfish memories.

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lemmy.world

It breaks my brain that people voted for him to help the economy. Without even getting into how bad conservatives are for the economy, Trump's first term had crazy high inflation, job loss, and economic crashes. Why would his second term miraculously be the solution to fixing the problems he started?

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lemm.ee

And all he had to do was shut up, and take credit for the federal apparatchik doing all the work for him with COVID. Blather at a press conference to his followers to stay home and ‘beat the China virus so America stays strong’ - and then play golf. Push on industry and suppliers to build ventilators, hospital capacity, and facilitate lockdowns and remote school/work.

Imagine if instead of nearly a million direct deaths, we had a mortality similar to Europe - better even as we bought our way to the front of the vaccine line. An actual ‘America first’ in recovery from COVID and the economic slowdown, instead of fumbling the ball so hard in his fourth year and making Biden president.

How anyone thought that he would be the right choice to manage any crisis, let alone economic woes is dumbfounding. The ‘smartest person’ in every room he enters, he’s incapable of anyone else to having the right answer.

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lemmy.world

The ‘smartest person’ in every room he enters, he’s incapable of anyone else to having the right answer.

I've always been told that the aim would be to to find people SMARTER than you with more education and experience and expertise than you, and surround yourself with such people, but a whole lot of people in dumbfuckistan seem to think that being a loudmouth bragging and bloviating idiot who has surrounded himself with lots of people who are even dumber and/or more inexperienced and/or too afraid to speak up is a great model for "leadership".

People with dumbfuckistan mindset hate seeing someone smarter than themselves; they call this being "elite". For some reason, people don't feel the same way about athletics as they do politics. People don't think you should put "outsiders" into their favorite sportsball team, they want elite athletes. Somehow, that's not elitist. But having the smartest people running a government - well, that's just elitist talk.

Boggles the mind.

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Absolutely. My best learning experiences in life - both collaborative like mentoring/educational setting, or competitive like sports - have been when I was massively outclassed. Because if you put aside your lizard-brain feelings of being less than or inferior and listen/observe, you can see how it’s working for them and understand what it is you are/aren’t doing or do/don’t know.

Observe. Ask. Understand. Decide… and Review.

But humility is understated. It doesn’t sell on TV, it doesn’t captivate a crowd or rally the masses. “I don’t have the answer, but let’s find out” is honest but doesn’t have the same pull as “the problem is clear, and I know the solution”

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Because something something "Bidenflation" and "Republican gud aht bidness, he billionaire".

People are just very fucking stupid.

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he wouldn't have a lot else left in his life.

He would still have his diapers.

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lemmy.world

How does this old ass dude have so much goddamn energy? I am in my PRIME and I need naps.

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lemm.ee

Stimulants. Where do you think Jr. gets it from?

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sh.itjust.works

speed, some guy called "Squigz" who you can find under the bridge after 10pm every night.

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Most likely ADHD meds. They will keep you up and running for awhile. He will eventually fall to time though, like we all do.

"Nothing fucks you harder than time." -Davos Seaworth

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30mg Lisdexamfetamine (Elvanse/Vyvanse) every morning.

It's like a cheat code for life.

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lemmy.world

It's not like he really does anything except golfs, eats McDonald's, possibly gropes or sexually assaults young girls (some habits are hard to break - grab them by the pussy right?). He doesn't read, doesn't think - he basically signs whatever heritage foundation and his rich friends put in front of him to sign.

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Trump doesn't have friends; he has lackeys and people who want to gain something by getting in his favor. Others follow and agree with him out of fear of retaliation.

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Thing is, he's not doing anything. He's just riding the train. He doesn't understand or care about the stuff the people around him are doing. He believed them when they said it would make him beloved.

He's just an idiot snake oil salesman.

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Genuinely something I've wondered about for a while. I guess he's got some regular golf competitors? As long as he wins tremendously

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I'd imagine he thinks that other evil rich people and sycophants whose immoral compasses are aligned are his friends, but in reality they're around because it benefits them (or they think it does), and they'd stab him in the back as soon as it benefits them. (It's just that so far it hasn't benefited their morally corrupt causes yet.) So people like the deceased Epstein, and Canadian traitors Kevin O'Leary and Gretzky. AB Premier Danielle Smith wouldn't even be an afterthought of a "friend" in this context, but she's trying so desperately hard to be accepted, it's pathetic.

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JcbAzPxreply
lemmy.world

If he were smart enough to do that, he probably wouldn't have bankrupted a casino twenty years ago.

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Exatronreply
lemmy.world

I can think of one thing he could do that would get him lots of good press, but it's typically a TOS violation.

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It's probably a TOS against something he signed after taking elon's money but firing Elon would be a really good first start

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Narcissistic psychopaths gonna narcissistic psychopath.

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lemm.ee

After reading the article I found it quite amusing the fact he is disappointed his allies have not supported him

That’s how the rest of the world feels

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It's surprising how few supporters you get when they aren't allowed to criticise you in any way

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Especially since in his case “support” means unconditional loyalty and subservience.

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Trump blames everyone but Trump.

Take direction from a rapist and you’re bound to get raped.

America; The world will happily move along without you.

Enjoy your reduced airfares to the beautiful Russian city of Siberia in one of Trumps own resorts.

Wonder in amazement on your tour of the potash fields in Belarus as you get a komplimentary Putin Tramp stamp across your backside.

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lemmy.zip

The only hope I have is a coup.

Impeachment isn't enough

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lemm.ee

Let the fucker rage. Get that blood pressure up ... one can only hope for a heart attack.

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Wilcoreply

It would be!

I despise this man so much that I went through the logistics of how I could piss on his grave in the future. It involved bottling the piss and wearing a MAGA hat to get close if needed. I'm embarrassed about how petty I am, but there it is.

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lemmy.world

What negative press? His supporters are all in. They're brigading every online message board and spamming about how this is great for the country.

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gamerreply
lemm.ee

Those are bots. The majority of MAGA supporters probably don't even remember their account passwords.

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iridebikesreply
lemmy.world

I wish I could believe this. I've made the mistake of engaging with them on MSN and it's a full blown Jonestown style cult. They are ready to lose everything for Trump.

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I’m not enough of a tech person to know if all the online support is just bots, but I know of all the republicans and trumpies I’ve talked to irl most of them are nervous and not happy with trump. They’re not full blown against him yet, and most don’t understand that they’re literally doing what he voted for him to do and said he would do, but they’re getting nervous and starting to look at the people fighting against his policies for help (eg dems). Only the most hardcore, unashamed nazi trump supporters aren’t upset. So like, I don’t think all hope is lost… yet

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gamerreply
lemm.ee

I don't have the link, but I read somewhere that this was actually part of the Project 2025 plan, to use sockpuppet accounts and bots to drown online discourse and prevent anyone messaging that hurts the movement from picking up steam and going viral. (Althougj the strategy is probably different on platforms they control, like Twitter and maybe Reddit)

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iridebikesreply
lemmy.world

I could certainly see this being something they're doing. Flooding the zone to give the impression of support. The problem with right wing rhetoric is that it's very attractive to the uninformed. It's really really easy to be a racist, for example. It's much harder to instill empathy.

I think it's working. Right as people were finally leaving Twitter during the election season and moving to Lemmy, Blue sky, mastodon, threads, etc. The election was already in full swing. So support on the left was fractured and disconnected from the main spaces where it would reach normal folks. Twitter, Truth Social, and Facebook remained strong and their message was everywhere all the time.

What do we do to stop it though? Grass roots grow Lemmy into something respectable? By the time it gets popular enough to matter, the right will invade and corrupt it.

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lemmy.world

you and i know the answer. guns. there has to be a purge or this never gets better.

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May they soon lose everything, especially if the fallout of their loses enriches the rest of us, or at least doesn't hurt us much. I want to bathe in the their tears.

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Bitwarden says that's a strong password and would take centuries to crack if you hadn't just told us.

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He might not have any friends, but there are probably a few people that consider him a useful idiot...

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"Friends": people who agree with whatever you say and laugh at you after the call?

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lemmy.wtf

Wouldn't be wild to say that there's some dementia and cognitive decline going on with Trump. I'm not saying this as a joke or insult, the guy is seriously behaving randomly and people around his are too scared to disagree.

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midwest.social

It wouldn't be wild, it'd be accurate. The man has dementia. I'm on mobile and not inclined to tap out all of the indicators, but remember when he abruptly stopped speaking at a campaign rally, and just kind of swayed to his music playlist for 39 minutes, or when he described in detail the literal, giant faucet in British Columbia that he seemed to think that Canada uses to control water to the West Coast? (Or the literal dome over Israel?) Both losing track of time and losing the ability to process metaphorical speech are symptoms of dementia. Why else would his doctors have administered that cognitive test that he bragged that he aced?

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Symptoms

Dementia symptoms vary depending on the cause. Common symptoms include:

Cognitive changes

Memory loss, which is usually noticed by someone else.

Problems communicating or finding words.

Trouble with visual and spatial abilities, such as getting lost while driving.

Problems with reasoning or problem-solving.

Trouble performing complex tasks.

Trouble with planning and organizing.

Poor coordination and control of movements.

Confusion and disorientation.

Psychological changes

Personality changes.

Depression.

Anxiety.

Agitation.

Inappropriate behavior.

Being suspicious, known as paranoia.

Seeing things that aren't there, known as hallucinations.

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"Everything is everyone else's fault! Why can't everyone see that my way is better for me and my interests?!?!?!"

Sorry donnie, we do see it.

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lemmy.world

What are the chances of him being booted out via 25th Amendment in the next six months?

It might buy JD just enough time to prevent the Republicans being utterly wiped out in the mid-terms...

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sh.itjust.works

I will now gaze wistfully into the near distance and contemplate life under the more competent evil.

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SkyezOpenreply
lemmy.world

More competent but significantly less likeable for the bade. Trump slides by with what passes as charisma to stupid people, but vance is such a bitch that I can't imagine them rallying around him.

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I hear that, but would also consider the monied interests would like more stability, and would ease the rallying behind Vance... probably.

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firebytereply
lemmy.world

I'm not sure he's much more competent, especially when it comes to successfully undoing the damage just enough to keep the GOP in power, by the skin of their teeth, whilst still grifting everything that isn't welded down.

That, and he doesn't and likely will never have the cult of personality.

I'd wager that once he who shall not be named is removed from office, the rest of the party will implode into a self-interested factional civil war.

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Maybe. There's clearly hidden power behind the throne. The orange face at the Resolute Desk has never been this disciplined about following an agenda in his life, and that change is not one of the known side-effects of dementia. Those people in the shadows might be able to replace him with a different useful idiot like, say, Joe Rogan.

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"friends" you keep using this word but I'm not sure you know what it means.

People close to him have stated they loathe him. What they love is money and power. Nobody that knows him truly cares about him.

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lemmy.world

"If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite would have to be right."

Trump needs to try the opposite.

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Albbireply
lemmy.ca

Would be hilarious to see him pull a 180 on everything.

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How dare they report facts! The facts are out to get me! They never favor my decisions!

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I'm not American but, from what I've seen, Republicans seem to flip sides more than a quarter in a hobos pocket during an earthquake.

Having Republicans turn on eachother is about as shocking as the fact that it will be cold in winter.

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oh sure...it's a 'press' problem

can only shine a pile of shit for only so long, Donald.

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All he must do is explain the logic behind the decision using real economic concepts and theories. We're all keenly aware of why he isn't doing that.

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Natanaelreply
infosec.pub

He probably told Netanyahu to please stop it, it's hurting my PR now, and was shocked when he said no

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Yes, unironically.

For those not aware:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Gaza_war_ceasefire

Sabotaging peace deals on conflicts that are causing Democrats grief is a standard Republican play.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/06/nixon-vietnam-candidate-conspired-with-foreign-power-win-election-215461/

https://newrepublic.com/article/172324/its-settled-reagan-campaign-delayed-release-iranian-hostages

Trump very clearly though it was his turn to play rat-fucking war criminal, but he doesn't understand that every other leader thinks he's a joke.

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This is going to be an even more interesting time in the coming weeks. When animals are cornered, things get very ugly. And we're beyond ugly already with almost half of Project 2025 implemented already.

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Fred Trump's dementia is the gift he gave his son Donald and the American people. Seriously outside of a couple people that whole family is a net drain on humanity

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Next step the Dipshit-in-chief will start saying bad-mouthing him and the gov is a criminal offense. I mean, they're already giving out felonies over vandalizing Tesla's...

Literal Nazis.

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lemmy.ca

He had so many ways of consolidating his grasp on his realm without looking like a total buffoon. That alone gives me hope.

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lemm.ee

The one thing that might save us is the MAGA obsession with forcing their virtuosic incompetence on everything and everyone. Their inevitable failure is built into their system.

Meanwhile, anyone with competence and experience is now playing for the opposing team, so if the Dems can manage to regain power, they will have a deep bench to draw from.

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A very Fisherian / žižekian critique. Aptly said.

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I love how people are upset that the democrats aren't doing anything.

First they have minorities in the house and senate and don't have the presidency so their powers are severely limited but also why stop MAGA when they're fucking up this badly?

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sopuli.xyz

but also why stop MAGA when they're fucking up this badly?

Hey imagine if you had a baby inside you, and then something catastrophic happened and the failed pregnancy now was threatening your life.

Now imagine you heard someone saying some dumb shit like you are now saying while you were wondering if your doctor was going to be able to operate on you before it was too late as you sit waiting to get close enough to death to be saved...

Now imagine the Democrats over decades and decades pretending like they were going to fight to stop this kind of insane cruelty towards women, raised countless amounts of money on that narrative, and then proceeded to do next to NOTHING to stop the overturning of Roe V. Wade, to put the brakes on ths descent into fascism at all?

Now shut the fuck up.

You can do this thought experiment from the perspective of an immigrant who has watched the Democratic party totally adopt a rightwing framing on immigration and lean into dehumanizing immigrants, but they would talk about it in a nicer way..... (I mean look at Biden's record on immigration, it is downright conservative).... and imagine right now you hear someone saying something like you just did as the entire country collapses into a crisis over whether immigrants should be treated like human beings or not.

The place to fight was to never accept these horrendous framings that are so twisted they are violent threats to our loved ones and the people that make up our communities, shame on you for having the smallness of vision to see how badly the Democrats failed and are failing to meet this moment by and large.

No, there is so much more they could have done and they could be doing, and many of them aren't because they are actually fine with this along with every damn Republican.

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sopuli.xyz

Ok, good! My point is imagine being someone scared, directly at bodily threat right now, and hearing someone else casually remark on the internet right now "well, why would we stop the Republicans when they are fucking up so bad?".

This is the kind of thing that makes people hate you, people are DYING RIGHT NOW. Yes, I know that is because of the other side making things horrifically bad, but that doesn't give you the right to be flippant about it, to not resist in any way you can, and most importantly not to consider the lives of people who can't just wait it out as Republicans continue to destroy their lives and kill them.

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lemmy.world

People voted this in.

This is what the majority of the voters want so what good is resisting going to do now?

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Ok, but he's @satansmaggotycumfart is not totally wrong. People DID sit this out. However, the broader question I have is how fragile the US democratic experiment is. If all it takes for one election cycle for people to sit out, then the flame of democracy was never very strong to begin with. Checks and balances are all but gone at this point...

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lemmy.zip

This is insane.

Even if this was actually what people wanted, how do you just roll over for fascism? What fucking bizarre outlook.

This isn't tit for tat, left of center versus right of center boring politics. We're not getting fair elections anymore, and it wouldn't matter if 99% of the people voted their rights away, doesn't mean I have to surrender mine peacefully

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lemmy.world

it wouldn't matter if 99% of the people voted their rights away, doesn't mean I have to surrender mine peacefully

Do you only believe in a democracy if you agree with it?

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Because they don't only fuck maga they fuck the world and it will take years to build the unfucking back

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deegeesereply
sopuli.xyz

Just because the Republicans are awful doesn’t excuse the Democratic party for being completely ineffective captured opposition.

90% of them just roll over because they love power more than standing up for what’s right.

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Just because the Republicans are awful doesn’t excuse the Democratic party for being completely ineffective captured opposition.

If this was on every post they'd downvote until you get banned. They hate any criticism because the other guy is worse. Even when they agree on the same goals, just slightly different methods.

EDIT: Love when they prove my point for me ❤️

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drhodlreply
lemmy.world

True Leaders would be out on the streets, galvanizing a scared, angry but rudderless public......

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TehWorldreply
lemmy.world

They are. How many have you attended? Walz has been doing a bunch of events. Corey Booker spoke for over 24 hours on the senate floor. AOC and Bernie are having tons of meetings.

You could organize one yourself.

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TehWorldreply
lemmy.world

Then I applaud your online discourse. Trump is going to cause a worldwide disruption, and even tho this is the fault of a bunch of fuckwit Americans, it’s important to focus on what we can do.

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There is a saying to the effect "that when America sneezes, the whole world catches a cold". Any non American who isn't interested in affairs in America, especially now, is ignorant and obtuse. We are all being affected.

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lemmynsfw.com

I think the sentiment is that, by allowing the administration to continue making blunders, they are helping the democratic party in the long-term, but people are being hurt in the short-term.

I understand that their hands are tied, but a large swath of the public is furious and want their fury to be echoed by their representatives.

All that said, you could say pretty much the same thing happened from the maga pov back in 2012, and that's how we got into this mess.

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This works in a functioning society where court orders are followed, laws are followed, institutions aren't gutted and the executive isn't seizing control of elections. Sure in normal times let them hang themselves.

But this time is different. Even if the maga cult turns, they actually aren't affected by bad policy, blunders, unconstitutionality, economy, polling ... They're in and they're in for life unless they're removed by force

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