Good luck admins! And if you're fresh from Reddit, welcome!
It's much better here! It’s nice and cozy, kinda like Reddit circa 15 years ago.
For your memes we have [email protected] and if you're a programmer of some kinds we got [email protected] to scratch that itch, if you like sciency posts mander.xyz has some excellent communities (communities=subreddits) like [email protected], [email protected]and [email protected] and for a meme science combo there's always the fantastic ![email protected]
You can also drop a shit(post) off at ![email protected] or hang out at ![email protected] (though you do have to post before you leave that one!)
If you want to explore the world of PC Gaming on Linux check [email protected] or for more general Linux [email protected] and we even have a Linux meme comm at [email protected] (we like Linux around here lmao)
For news [email protected] is excellent and for US focused news [email protected] and [email protected]
Want to ensure your privacy in this crazy world? Checkout [email protected]
And of course, the best for last, the best comm on the Lemmy-verse, [email protected] !!! Just make sure to buy a krabby patty!
We’re not without our cons though, biggest problem we have are probably the Tankies, but here they’re mostly on what's known as the Tankie Triad: lemmy.ml, lemmygrad and hexbear. For the most part, grad and hex are widely defederated from (Users and content of those instances won't be "synced" and you won't see them) and you only have to worry about .ml, but on Lemmy you can do a personal instance wide block if you’d rather just not deal with them. .ml tends to be more subtle opting for censorship of dissent before things get crazy on their threads and allowing certain propaganda to flourish (If you wish to see documentation of it, checkout [email protected] ) Here on Lemmy all moderator actions are public and available for viewing on what's known as the "modlog"
Obligatory, fuck Spez
Saying it again to everyone in the back. The modlog is a great feature. Instance Mods and admins can't just disappear people and communities without a trace, and trolls can't make up stories of unfair moderation without bringing receipts and their old account name.
Couldn't an instance admin just disable modlogs or spoof them, though
Yes, but the backlash would be undoubtedly intense, everyone here loves the modlog (well probably not the trolls/tankies LMFAO)
the tankies were who created the modlog. broken clocks etc
Isn't the whole thing about public and harsh punishments in authoritarian societies to keep everyone in check?
its also to hide and shield your atrocities, punishments from the public, hence they dont know whats going on so its easy to claim any story you made up.
the tankies/MLs are the biggest downside of lemmy, they prefer insults to discussion and have a very stalinist approach to moderation/administration. they are the spez of lemmy
oh and they spread russian propaganda like jolly traitors
authoritarians have always been the same
Keep in mind that not everyone on ml or everyone with leftist leanings is a tankie. Yes, there are a lot of tankies there, but ML is a general purpose instance and some longstanding lemmy users simply have their accounts there
i was referring to the fundamentalists, wannabe revolutionaries and myopic protesters
if you have a main account on .ml to bait MLs then fine, but it might be time to make an account elsewhere. all the MLs that want to troll the rest of lemmy have done the same so they don't bring the instance into further disrepute
they behave the same way , probably banned on reddit.
For their own instance, sure.
But it won't alter the modlogs of other Instances, which also have a copy if the community is federated to them.
Because of federation the lock-in is much lower and we could move to a new instance due to a rogue admin.
If modlogs were disabled, it would get noticed pretty quickly. If some mod decided to waste a lot of time coming up with an elaborate scheme to try to mess with things unfairly, that instance would lose a lot of trust if it gets revealed.
On a related note, one funny thing that occurred recently: Mod sets up community with an automated moderator, automod boots the mod soon after.
Eh, you say that.
::: spoiler Image of post
(I've since deleted my comment just in case I doxxed myself elsewhere)
:::
::: spoiler Image of modlog
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So either there's some funny shenanigans going on at lemmy.world, or more likely maybe the modlog isn't completely visible across instances, or...?
People are still able to delete their own posts, that wouldn't appear in the modlog
Ahhh, good point. Though, the "Permanently Deleted" made me think it's an action of a mod rather than a user.
To test:: https://lemmy.ml/post/27769094
Please post something here in the linked thread. I will delete the whole post in an hour, and then please send me a screenshot of what you see when looking at your profile for comments for that thread.
That community doesn't federate to my instance 😅
you can see my comment from ML, but you can't see the communities? Federation is crazy complex haha
Federation is community dependent
Okay, I got responses from:
@[email protected]
@[email protected]
@[email protected]
Please tell me how the deleted post looks
It looks deleted to me from my instance. I can see my comment on my profile.
I didn't know I was volunteering to help, but I am happy to.
When I view your link to lemmy.ml my comment is visible
Ah no I meant when you search for your comment in your profile and see the "Godspeed" comment, what is the name of the post it is under?
I see "I will delete this post in 1 hour"
Same as in the first screenshot for me
I was part of an experiment, huzzah!
Invisible indeed https://lemmy.ca/post/41361575/15492240
When you search for your comment in your comment history, what is the name of the post it is under?
The main thing you need to know the username of the OP who posted it. Chances are they were banned, had their account deleted or deleted the post themselves. The comments in the post is collateral damage in deleted/removed posts. It has happened to me and it does feel bad a bit since comments of deleted posts and children of deleted comments do not appear in the modlog. The idea though, is that the main OP who has been actioned against has recourse. The process certainly can be improved but its still several steps above Reddit in transparency.
Ah that makes sense too
The modlog is vulnerable to the same federation issues that all Lemmy content can suffer from.
Because I've noticed the same thing with comments removed by .ml admins, I can see the modlog entry when looking on .ml itself, but when viewed from .worlds modlog it's missing in some cases
But also, like all federated content, you won't see modlog entries on your Instances modlog if they've defederated from an instance. So you won't see hex/grad modlog entries on .world but you can from .ee for example
Do you see a different modlog for [email protected] as I'm seeing in that screenshot then?
I checked 2 other instance modlog's, and didn't see them there.I did notice "*Permanently Deleted*" for its post title, which is usually indicative of a total post purge (Deletes all content from a post, pictures, comments everything. Normally, an uploaded picture can hang around on an instance directly accessible by its image url), but it's supposed to be reserved for really bad shit (read: illegal) you don't want hanging around in an instances DBsThat being said, even permanently deleted/purged stuff generally does show on the modlog, at least an entry that just says Permanently Deleted, so that is a bit concerning.Id suggest putting together your evidence into a post for [email protected] maybe you can catch the attention of another instance admin, maybe of db0 themself and they can look into it more (admins of other instances have special visibility into some things)Edit:
I just realized you participated in an asklemmy post, not made one yourself, I was searching incorrectly lol
Yea there are a number of other things that can happen in that case like blaze said, OP deleted the post, deleted their account, was caught posting really bad shit and their account was wholly purged etc
I believe this depends on what community it happens on. If the community is on ml, then ml moderation actions will be copied by world (or any other instance showing that community), but if it happens on a world community then ml moderation actions stay on ml.
That actually isn't true, they can disappear it for normal users. I've had things disappear at LW and when I called it out, the shitty admin dude went after me. Also, if you delete a thread, it disappears. That's the one thing the bad place did correct up until I left, it might be different now though. They kept the threads up even if they shut down the thread. Now, it just disappears.
There are instances where deleting content permanently is a good feature, like for illegal content and spammers.
A way to list what was disappeared entirely and the reason for it would be good for transparency. Like if a comment/thread is deleted for illegal images just having a note in the modlog that it was deleted for illegal content would be good even though the images won't show. .
Spammers might still clog up the modlog though, but there could probably be a way to consolidate them or something.
I agree. I think the bad place had a warning page if it was deleted for violent or abusive content. Otherwise, it stayed up. Again, it might be different now though, I haven't been there in years now.
So of course Spez rolled over like a bitch
Rolled over so fast it’s like he’d been just waiting for a reason to ban content he didn’t like.
I don't think he was waiting. There's a reason so many of us came here two years ago.
they did that when musk complaing WHITEPEOPLETWITTER.
Spez has been rolling over like a bitch, his whole fucking life. fucking punchable face that little cunt.
I made an account after I got a warning for upvoting criticism of musk on a post about Teslas being attacked. I was warned for upvoting violent content. I purposely avoided upvoting such content after admin sub posted about it.
Fuck Spez ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
Didn’t this happen since 2020 for the censorship? Because I got my account banned/kicked out.
It's funny because I bet a lot of us that came on the API wave had/have 15+ year old accounts.
Mines 18.
I had a post from /r/teenagers show up on my homepage and I realized that my account is older than most people there say they are.
🙋10 year account for me, thousands of comments. 166k comment karma. It was a wild ride, but when they took Boost it was over for me. Fuck em.
Consequently, now that I'm here I post WAY more, I don't even think my post count cracked a hundred and here it's...4...thousand........fuck, I'm here too much 😅
Definitely
You're doing the lord's work, sir.
12 years, and almost a million karma, and I was permabanned soon after the election for repeating an anti-HitlerPig post that I had repeated many times BEFORE the electuon.
I was bummed at the smaller crowds on Lemmy at first, then I realized I didn't have to scroll through dozens of puns, bots, trolls, idiots, etc. on EVERY post.
The lack of the niche communities is the main difference for me, mostly. But that takes time. Otherwise I mostly like it here :D
Stick around. It'll fill out with time. There's plenty of low activity niche communities on here, try just making a post in one sometime. I've been on a campaign of doing weekly posts like stargazing Saturdays on mander.xyz's astronomy community.
The lack of karma farming is amazing. Not nearly the same amount of people frantically grasping at low-hanging-fruit puns.
18, 17, and 10 year old main accounts.haven’t been there since the API fiasco, but I kinda hated it for a few years before that.
I was the primary character in a pretty huge event (fiasco) in Reddit history 16-18 years ago, that I wish I could talk more about without doxxing myself.
Basically when TIFU and AITA got popular, the site kinda went to shit. Welllll, when smart phones got popular and people started to refer to Reddit as an “app”, it went to shit, Eternal September-style.
Oh that’s you! I saw your post about your ban for musk fuming and my partner and I both had a chuckle about the ridiculoscity of it all.
Quick edit: yeah the creative writing (now AI slop) subs always made me upset. TIFU was always “I SEXED MY POOP” and AITA was always clickbait bullshit.
All I’ll say about the event I was in is rest in peace, Tynan (I_RAPE_CATS)
It wasn’t even monetized hahaha, had to have a bigger channel for that…
I still hate seeing posts on websites where people are telling me to "swipe".
Amen hahaha
Society (bottom text) can pry “click” and “scroll” and “program” out of my old, dusty hands!
10y and 400k combined karma (mostly comment)
And I actually managed cold turkey, partially helped by my creating an entire instance which kind of made Lemmy a hobby I was invested in both time and money wise.
Mine is certainly near 15 years old, but for the life of me I can't remember exactly when I made an account, nor how many fake internet points I'd rattled up - it just seems so insignificant now.
The best part of Lemmy is that if any instance starts becoming like Reddit is now, I can block it individually, or we can collectively decide to shun them! It's not fool proof, but it's a pretty large leap in the right direction.
I dare say I miss the niche communities, but frankly, the main niche that I filled was on the pony side of things, and that's pretty dead now. RIP smol horses, you all get to live your best lives now as glue 🫡
In life, they brought as together. As glue, they'll keep us together.
how is lemmy diffrent then reddit other then mutliple servers and stuff like that? both is kinda the same reason you use it for and thats why they exist?
There is no central control, which means there's no CEO to influence into doing ghastly shit to the users. It's basically one step up from the non-federated Internet forums of old.
ah thats huge!
I hope it is one day.
So we're literally old reddit.
Works for me.
https://oldsh.itjust.works/ literally indeed
I came here on the API wave and went to Reddit from digg. I left digg after the Digg 2.0 fuck up.
I heard Kevin Rose purchased Digg again and plans to redo it again.
Kevin Rose (Digg founder) and Alexis Ohanian (Reddit co-founder) just acquired Digg together, so we'll have to see how it goes. But I don't need to wait for Digg to resurrect itself when Lemmy is already right here.
I'll take some extra competition. It'll help reddit burn faster.
Burn, baby, burn!
Whereas I'm one of the people who was annoyed at having all the Digg users come over and ruin Reddit. :)
Oh ya, we sucked. We did like the secret handshake. When does the narwhal bacon?
10yr old account, was mostly a lurker. I am actually active on here since I don’t need to comment on a post 5min after it’s been created for my comments to be seen. It feels refreshing.
12 year account here, but was accountless for many years before that. Pretty much a lurker on reddit. Here, I don't post much, but I've been trying to add to the conversation as much as possible. I find I get genuine responses from folks, even if we disagree with each other. By the time I left Reddit for the API changes, it had been either jokes, trolls or bots on the biggest subreddits for years, no real genuine discussion anymore.
Not to say it's perfect in the comments around here, but it's a lot better than reddit has been for like, 8+ years
Wait so Reddit is taking action against moderators who block X links on their subreddits? Wow! That’s draconian as fuck!
I hope we get a big influx. There’s so many small subreddits I like which have no Lemmy equivalent!
I left after...one of the meme subs last year managed to mass ban bots. Went from one of the most active subs to nearly dead instantly, including upvotes and comments.
That was so disturbing I finally quit.
Reddit has turned into a real fuck of a fuck over the last few weeks. It was a bad omen when they started charging for API access, but that was just a preview. They're in full-on enshittification mode now.
You get shadowbanned for unspecified reasons, without apparently breaking any rules. They do cute shit with vague error messages rather than tell you what's up. Zero actual communication.
They're also busting people for upvoting super mario kart jpegs for some reason, but when they do that they actually tell you.
I up voted a Mario Bros Luigi jpg and a few days later my login doesn't work.
That's actually the outcome I wanted, this is a celebration not a rant 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I moved across the country and lost my pristine 12-year old reddit account a few years back because at least one of the mods of the local city subreddit here is a psychopath who followed me across multiple subs harassing me, seemingly for being too vocal about homeless advocacy, eventually getting me permabanned from the site by literally making up a report where there was no mechanism for me to protest.
Since then I'd been making burner accounts to use the site, but they'd been surviving fewer and fewer weeks until a few months back they started getting immediately shadowbanned. So I said fuck it, why do I even want to be wallowing in a cesspit like that? It's way past fediverse time.
Ugh! That conditioned, kneejerk, almost PTSD-style assumption that all questions are bad faith setups for a debate is one of the most toxic things about this format, leading to long chains of argument where both users are just talking past each other in reference to subtexts in the other's comments that they've completely imagined. I do still encounter that here on Lemmy, but at this point I think a lot of Lemmy users are specifically trying to escape that sort of environment so it can usually be diffused by just stating plainly that you're not setting up a gotcha. I do think this tendency is something we have to actively push back against by showing compassion and stating plainly up front what we want and why at the expense of maybe not feeling as cool as we would otherwise.
Wow
Shadow ban shouldn't be a thing anywhere. That's some bullshit.
Only in Yu-Gi-Oh should the shadow realm be allowed
Error messages on Reddit: "Oh no, there's something wrong!"
Error messages on Lemmy: "Haha, I accidentally stopped docker, sorry!"
We even have a community for talking about what goes on behind the scenes: [email protected]
That's the transparency you can only have when revenue isn't in the front seat.
Is it possible to be shadowbanned on Lemmy?
Theoretically, but it would only work on one instance (server), and that would put an instance in such bad odor that other instances might not want to peer with them anymore.
Ironically, it would be likely to get that instance isolated from much of the network, if not all of it. That behavior is detestable to many who came here.
Here for The Great Reddit migration. People left Digg for Reddit for similar reasons. Although the issues with Reddit are magnitudes more concerning.
Reddit has magnitudes more inertia, unfortunately. And a predominant sentiment seems to be “we should stay on Reddit to counterbalance the bad parts."
Or even worse, move to Discord :/
Discord makes feel like an old man shaking my fist at the clouds. The UI is the worst, and I have no idea how anything works, but I have to be on it because my friends use it for in-game chat on multiplayer games.
I never feel dumber than when I’m trying to find something on Discord. Ugh.
I think its interface is pretty good, but it's structure absolutely sucks for larger communities. It's a deliberate information black hole for shooting the breeze, yet people treat it like a forum, wiki, or hub,.
I'm sure you're right, migration here won't make much of a dent in reddit's numbers. It'd be great to have more people to fill out some of the smaller communities but we don't need the ones who don't want to move.
reddit got worse faster after IPO.
Discord is now doing the same, so that'll last a few months lol.
This isn't a full migration sadly, at least I don't think so. It's a welcome trickle of new users, but Reddit will need to do much worse to force a full on exodus. Though I have no doubt they will eventually. But I don't think we're getting another mass Rexit event until they turn off old.reddit.
I think more folks would come if they knew lemme.ee existed. I only found out it exists this morning.
I think part of the problem is if you post a lot about lemmy on reddit to recruit, you'll get banned/shadowbanned eventually.
That's what Twitter did to Bluesky.
Ugh. Humans ruin everything.😞
I remember Reddit after I started using it, around the time of the Digg exodus. It was a fun community of nerdy people. Just doing some things because it was cool.
A few years later, I had the weirdest feeling that that vibe was gone. That both behind the scenes, and more overtly, they had to be prepping for accommodation of corporate interests. A little bit of officially sanctioned promotion here, a dash of ignoring guerrilla marketing there.
And for several years now, it's not even subtle anymore. Reddit does what some dude with money bags says must be done, users be damned.
by 2016, the enshittification was appearing, because of trump 17 is when the bannings of accounts for the slightest disagreement became noticible, around the same time illicit subs became a target of bans, because GOP complained.
[ Removed by Reddit ]
Refugee crisis on lemmy?
Wir schaffen das
Sry just testing how everything works on here Ignor this masage
Oh no no, my friend. Newcomers are obligated to provide massages for their first week. We will not ignore...
Welcome!
Mr. Free Speech Absolutist strikes again.
Yup he is so free speech he bans anyone that hurt his fees fees.
I would love it if reddit clamped down on free speech. Please reddit, just lay it out on what else you want to limit. Let the people know what else they can't say. Or even better- force people on reddit to make mandatory posts praising billionaires. It would make my day. Please reddit, put more gas on your dumpster fire
I'm pretty sure they already have bots that do that.
We will eventually have bots like that on lemmy and other federated networks too. It wasn't long between the advent of email and spam email. (spam predates email -- the term is from the BBS era...)
They're here, but they're obvious when they post so they get buried. I've seen them make their own posts with built in upvotes, but real people just ignore it. It's not that huge of a problem yet. I'm sure it will be when they build up enough accounts, that's the only way they can get any traction at all.
They'll have to split these accounts across many different instances for it to be effective. Else it'll be too easy to defederate with instances that allow too many spam accounts.
Is this something on their radar yet? I would think it would be easier to do it here because you could have separate accounts on many instances with even the same email.
By total accident I found out that Digg is resurrecting, backed by Alexis Ohanian, a founder of Reddit (and husband of Serena Williams), and Kevin Rose, who originally founded Digg.
Maybe all the former Digg refugees that fled to Reddit will go right back to Digg.. Continue the cycle.
I was part of that migration and I won't be as it looks like Digg is going to be pre-launch enshittified via AI slop.
I did see a headline mentioning AI, so yeah, I doubt I'll be coming round those parts again. I too switched to reddit around that time. But I was looking for a way out when I read the news that demonstrating would no longer be possible, and I'm glad lemmy fulfills that 'out'.
What's dead can never die. 🧟
Still centralized, I assume, so even if it managed a revival it would inevitably fall to the same enshittification.
He's another techbro idiot, it'd be more of a sidegrade.
Woo! Thanks for the mander.xyz shout out. Come for the science memes, stay for the top-tier science discussions.
based based based based
Thanks for making us from Reddit feel welcome I can se i am going to like it here
I got banned from Reddit because I made a suggestion on what should happen to a violent dog that attacked a family member
No free speech on Reddit
You'll probably like it because we are all from reddit, at varying times in the past.
It's really like OG reddit. Like the good ol' days.
Well maybe not cause of the whole jailbait thing
And the racism
Yeah, it's a bit more cleaned up
The jailbait and racism still exist, but any instance that doesn't want to be defederated by the big ones defederates from it immediately.
I have arrived
And my axe! Are we still doing that?
Ah the old Reddit switcheroo.
I finally said the thing.
Is that when instead of fucking the dog in the ass, the dog fucks spez in the ass and we sit on the sidelines with foam fingers cheering the dog on?
No it’s pre2015 Reddit reference
The prophecy has been fulfilled.
No, not again.
https://youtu.be/JOnRNQK5IZE
I'm glad I left Reddit good riddance. Much better here tbh.
I got a temp ban for calling Usha Vance a class traitor. I said that when fascism progressed far enough she would likely not be safe from the overt racism and patriotism because she's brown. 3 day temp ban. Reddit is shilling for the fascist and corporate overlords. That along with warnings just for upvoting posts. Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
You won’t even remember you wasted years on there
When I first joined Lemmy there was hardly conversation to be found but now things are starting to really pickup. Next you will really start to see niche communities thrive and I'm all for it.
Welcome to our reddit refugees!
It was heart warming to see my new emulation community see some traffic ^_^
Ive had this account for a while, but I've mostly lurked. I like it better here anyways.
Hell yeah
That explains the mountain of bans.
I was seeing pretty normal-looking accounts disappear in greater and greater numbers in the couple of weeks before they zapped my account. Couldn't figure out why, just a lot of comments or threads only hours old, and the users were already gone. Couldn't figure it out at the time.
Welcome to Lemmy, here are a few pointers to help you settle in
Reddit is now uninstalled on all of my devices
I was reminded of this place because of a comment chain about what the next reddit was.
Deleted my Reddit account when I could no longer use Apollo, but still kept up with a few subs for certain info. Finally discovered Lemmy and after being here for a short while I’ve nearly stopped visiting. This news has given me the push to be done 100%.
That doesn't seem like a very strong password 🤔
What are you guys talking about, all I can see is *******
Aw yeah, any ex-Redditors who want to mess with the tankies can do the "lemmy.ml SpeedBan" game lmao
A stupid fuckface called a greedy pig boy…
Fuckface is putting it lightly limo. he is much much worse.
So they're finally admitting to being a propaganda machine for the us government.
Reddit is basically a ship with a captain and crew that hates all of the passengers and vice versa.
We just have to look nice for the ones who swim over to our ship.
Be the change you want to see in the community. I'm sure there is at least one instance that will allow it.
Why not make one?
If you find or create one, let me know.
+1
lemmy nsfw has communities that .world has blocked. With the knowledge that .world is one of the top five most populated instances, that tells me that lemmy nsfw would probably be a good instance for this niche subject.
Fresh from reddit here. What is the difference in subscribing and bookmarking a community and how do I find them after I subscribe/bookmark?
I'm using the Summit app if that makes a difference.
Subscribing is like Reddit, where your default frontpage view is only your subscribed communities. These communities could be from your server or a federated server, it just depends on what you subscribe to. You don't really need to think about how federation works, it'll just show up for you if you subscribe.
If you pick "Local" you'll see a feed of the the popular posts from all communities hosted on your own server only. Some of your subscribed comms might be in there if they're a local server comm. But it's just a general feed from your server alone.
If you go to "All" then you get a feed from all federated communities, so you could be seeing posts from /c/linux from lemmy.ml as well /c/linux from another server (though it's not likely to see posts from small communities unless you're an incorrigible doomscroller). Generally you'll run out of content on your subscribed only feed fairly quick due to the activity being relatively lower than Reddit, so browsing All gets you more content, but you'll run into a lot of irrelevant shit in the process. But it can be a good way to find more things to subscribe to, as well.
In any case, welcome. I fled reddit after 15 years of contributing by posting and modding when they burned the app community and shit on the people that made Reddit what it was. At least here I don't feel like my efforts to provide content and moderate is for someone else's benefit, least of all a greedy little pigboy like spez.
Be the change you want to see.
I've been here for a while and this is still unclear to me: Is All only the communities that are synced to my server? And syncing is dependent on a user on my server subscribing to it? So if I find a new community on a different server and subscribe to it, it will show up on my server's All?
You got it.
Thank you so much for this!!
The one thing I'd add is that since you're on lemmy.world, your "Local" feed is fairly heavy with content since some the most active communities are on .world. That's not always the case if you're homed on a small server that nobody subscibes to comms from.
And you can sub to multiple communities of the same name, but different servers.
And you can block individuals or entire server. Sometimes your own server defaultly blocks servers, for instance, lemmy.world (our home server) blocks lemmynsfw and hexbear (because tankies). You won't see content or users from those servers with an account homed on lemmy.world. So if you want to browse porn, either manually browse to lemmynsfw.com and browse not logged in, or create an account if you feel the burning need to comment on porn posts.
You are right, lemmy.world is a server that you can create an account on and participate in the fediverse through. Other servers can be found here: https://lemmyverse.net/?open=true
Yes a community is associated to a server, so you can have a [email protected] and a [email protected]. They don't share posts, they're effectively completely separate.
Yes, if you search up communities it will list everything it can find from any servers your home server is federated with, which by default should be all of them. Usually you'll see some counts of posts and users to give you an idea of popularity.
Mastodon is another application like Lemmy, and has it's own servers just like Lemmy. But since lemmy posts and mastadon toots are effectively the same ActivityPub object, you will often see Lemmy posts being commented on by Mastodon users. If you see a lot of @username BS in a Lemmy post, that's probably Mastodon users commenting
Really, all that Lemmy or Mastodon are is different interfaces and hosting platforms for the same ActivityPub objects. They're just presented in a different way, one is more like Reddit and the other is more like Twitter. But there's no inherent reason for a post to behave differently than a toot, they have the same thread flow, so they can interact seamlessly.
And idk about an introduction, seems like someone should make one. Maybe I'll feed this thread into a jippity and see what it spits out later.
At one time I saw a federation map, idk if that's still around. All that info is inherent in the backend server communication and wouldn't be hard to get, but IDK if anyone is currently doing it.
Perhaps, it's been a standard for years. But I don't think the Bluesky "federation" protocol is the same as ActivityPub, so from all I've heard it wouldn't talk unless someone writes a bridge for it.
The servers are literally servers, you could set one up today and register a user on it, and it would federate with all the other ones that allow random federations. I think your new server would go out to github or something to get the first list of federation targets, then after that it'll probably update from other federated servers. https://join-lemmy.org/docs/administration/install_docker.html
yes
The way to think of these is more like an email server. You have a mail account with Gmail.com or hotmail, and those talk to each other to exchange messages. DNS is the glue that tells them where each other are. If a server blacklists another email server, then they don't talk and you can't get messages to a user on that server.
"Bookmark" is not a term I'm familiar with. I think it might be an app feature.
I don't know about the apps because I normally use Lemmy on the web. There might be an option in your app to just see posts from your subscribed communities though.
On the Lemmy.world website you can see posts from your subscribed communities by clicking the "subscribed" tab near the top of the page (the other tabs are "local" which shows you just posts from your instance - Lemmy.world in your case - and "all" which shows you the top posts from all Lemmy servers).
Also on the Lemmy.world website, if you scroll down on the main page, you can see your subscribed communities in a list on the right-hand side of the page. I sometimes use that list when I want to look at a particular community.
Thanks for the welcome wagon. This was the first post I clicked on. I feel like a boomer (I am not one) trying to understand the Fediverse even though I can understand how email works, somehow I can't apply that to how it works here. Like am I supposed to be able to see Mastadon or Pixelfed content on here? What would that look like? Ok also had some weed tincture so that probably has something to do with my confusion. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Welcome!
Yea, you'll see mastodon stuff from time to time, there's nothing really that tells you it's a mastodon post, they just look kinda different. For a mastodon post usually the giveaway is hashtags in the post like #hashtag except they'll be links.
Pixelfed is supposed to show up too, but federation with Lemmy has yet to "kick in" (at least as far as I've noticed)
Also on Lemmy you can do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ without any extra "" actually, here putting the extra 2 backslashes makes you lose your arm
It's actually really nice, now I can ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ right from my phone keyboard lmfao ¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ok here's another question. How does this exist financially, who pays for servers and whatnot? Believe you me I am so glad not to be assaulted by ads and whatnot but isn't this expensive?
It's not actually all that expensive to host websites, it never has been, sh.itjust.works a larger instance with something like 1.5k posts and comments/day only spends about $150/month
A bid cost saving is not using the "cloud", cloud services do what they advertise (mainly allow one to "easily" scale up to millions of users), but its costly.
But the beauty of it is that because Lemmy is decentralized, not one person/org has to worry about scaling to millions of users as the Lemmy-verse grows so hosters can skip the cloud
Some pay out of pocket and some take the ways of the forums of ol, donations and small perks for donating. For example, having a db0 account and being a donator gains you voting rights. There's been talk about private/VIP comms for donators as well
Donations for server costs. Apparently each user costs a little over 1 dollar a year, hosting-wise. Reminds me of how one site I use for checking stuff in pokemon sleep, how-many-more.com, said in a reddit post from the owner that they don't even take donations because the cost of running it is absolutely miniscule and that you should absolutely question people who want upkeep money for largely text-based stuff like that.
We discuss costs here.
As long as you shop around for a good hosting deal you don't need everyone to donate to cover the costs.
Ah I was wondering why that arm got amputated. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
It's not without cause (If you want to see documentation, you'll need to use this workaround link because, ironically, .ml censors you from seeing the comm: https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected] )
But yea I get not wanting to move instances, but can I ask why? It seems as though your account doesn't have any posts or comments, making moving instances very easy.
The biggest thing you can't move is posts and comments, but comm subscriptions, block lists, tags, saved posts etc are all easily exportable and importable to another instance
Some apps even have this built in directly. Voyager, for instance, has a Migrate option in the settings. Also, many people see the lack of post/comment migration as a bonus. I would burn my Reddit accounts every year or two, simply to avoid any accidental build-up of PII that could be compiled to dox me. Hell, I’ve been on Lemmy for about two years now, and this account was only created a few days ago because I just recently burned my old one.
Oh yeah, c'mon, give me some populated niche subs!
We'll get there... eventually.
Been here for a few weeks now and have not looked at Reddit since. Time to cut ties and delete my account there I think.
You can also use online tools to overwrite your post history so that Reddit don't have all the content you provided anymore, even if thats just comments
Good point, forgot about that. Will do that as well. Thanks.
You think they really delete the old content? I don’t.
Find me on Reddit (I'm aceslive12 there) I overwrote everything... at the very least, none of what I've ever written there is going to be useable for them anymore unless they restore it without my permission (which they won't)
Oh I didn’t mean publicly-available. I meant that they likely keep the data around in a database somewhere.
Oh, yeah, I'd fully get that
.ml users is somewhat problematic, they behave like the shills on reddit, the right wingers, often using the same talking points and buzzwords. ml is probably mostly populated the rejects/bans from reddit for the right reasons(posting disengious and offensive posts, misinformation.
The biggest issues with .ml isn't even the users, it's the admins who are hardcore tankies and use their power and influence (Because they're the "flagship" instance and main "support hub" most instances are hesitant to defed from them) to push their agenda.
Was this before or after I got banned sight wide in December for posting diy Luigi Mangione prayer candles on witches vs patriarchy?
8 year account. Started closing it down when the Luigi ban took effect but finally wipe it completely when this got announced.
Only really miss one group from there that isn’t here yet, which I suppose I should start but haven’t yet been inclined to do.
As a redfugee myself, welcome to all! Just please try to avoid making lemmy more like reddit. If you miss reddit please just go back, it's still there.
Fuck that, I welcome most Redditors.
Lemmy cannot be made into Reddit, it's simply not possible because the biggest problems of Reddit was because of Reddit the corporation
Everything else was just born naturally of what happens when millions of humans interact with each other
For you the biggest annoyance of reddit was apparently the actions of reddit executives. For me it was the overabundance of meme-addled high school sophomore personalities. In that way lemmy is already enough like reddit for my taste.
Same.
How do I change instances please. I want my home to be feddituk.
Go to lemmy settings on desktop (not sure about app support) and export them. Then create an account on feddit.uk and import them.
Ah ok will have a play over the weekend
Join us!
Edit: Bring biscuits
Enjoy, feddit.uk is great
I’m a reddit refugee! It’s better here anyway.
I wanna be optimistic but I think those who are there and have held through the last few, they’ll all likely be getting used to it by now and not caring.
Not true. I'm pretty recent. We all have a different bar for how much shit we'll take I suppose.
Typo in your ![email protected] ref. Takes me to manner.xyz which redirects to GoDaddy...
Thanks lol, corrected. That's what I get for manually typing shit lmaooo
I came here a while back from reddit and it rocks. Thanks for having us.
Remember the block function!
I've been browsing Lemmy for 2ish months, went ahead and made an account just recently. Deleted my Reddit account last week and I'm chuffed.
Welcome aboard.
Yay! More users for lemmy!
Uh so… does anyone know if Lemmy will scale to millions of users? Has an ActivityPub service ever gotten to that scale?
Mastodon.social has millions of users (and millions were active at some points in time):
https://mastodon-analytics.com/
Awww hell yeah this is amazing news! Thank you
(Also why didn’t I think about mastodon- I’m such an idiot)
Mastadon is awesome! I honestly spend more time on Mastadon than I do on Lemmy nowadays
Welcome ex-Redditors, and please leave these at the door:
Ok I can support the first 2
But "/s" is absolutely necessary and has predated Reddit by a LONG time. It should be mandatory actually because sarcasm is notoriously hard in text
Having made plenty of jokes that people have just not gotten, yeah. Without a gif or some visual cue that it's a joke; you're just not going to come across correctly.
It does depend on the instance. We don't use them for the UK one.
Do you think that you're going to have to explain the joke, do you still tell it?
It's the same thing with sarcasm. If you can't do sarcasm by inference, then don't do sarcasm at all.
No they're right. A big part of sarcasm is tone. That's obviously hard to convey over text.
"Dry" sarcasm doesn't use tone. Take a look at British sarcasm, for example.
A lot can be done with context and inference. It's how somebody can tell that an article is satire, even though there's no tone to listen to.
I would much rather see ex-Redditors leave the word "you" at the door, as in, telling other Lemmings who they are, what they believe, or what they're doing. Like, "you clearly think...", "you don't know...", or "you believe..."
Even if those things may be true, that kind of phrasing leads to arguments and vitriol about 100% of the time, even if the initial difference of opinion was a misunderstanding. If somebody is really a nasty troll, or bot, or shill, or tankie, or whatever, block and move on.
you are clearly overreacting
WELL FUCK YOU BUDDY!
This
^^^^^^/s
I feel like a kid again calling BBSes and trying to use FidoNet.
It would be so amazing if we could get Lemmy running on something like [email protected] it really would be just like the ol dialup days
It'd be slow, but I'd still use Lemmy over it all the time even though I have a fancy pants 2.5 Gig fiber link lmaooo
Is that lemme.ee speak, or is my confusion just because I'm old and tech-stupid?
Probably neither. But if you were not into computers and online communities in the 1980s and 1990s you’d have missed it.
Start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FidoNet
And the OP is right, it has that same small home-grown feel.
Hahah. Yeah same. Obviously the fediverse needs to be more user friendly to gain traction, but I’m having a lot of fun with the more… technical(?)… knowledge required to wrap your head around it.
The Fediverse feels much more like the old internet.
For news I like ![email protected]
.world is a bit too reddit-like
Yeah it's not like the refugees from reddit will be looking for something that's exactly like reddit. 🙄
They'd be idiots if they went back to what they just fled.
.world is the worst parts of reddit, the powermods.
To find communities that you might not know exist, it's great to check out [email protected] , [email protected] or [email protected] .
You can also visit the external website Lemmyverse.net for community discovery/search. Or sub.rehab for finding equivalent communities of subreddits.
Stop using reddit as much when the API ban happens (still used modded sync)
Completely quit reddit when Spez came out that he idolized Musk and wanted to turn reddit into X
That was a year and 8 months ago
Yup, looks like @[email protected] is going to be busy again ❤️
"Why they hate me, are they sick in the brain?" sad emoji Anyway, yeah I'm here already dipping my toesies and getting confy since my first reddit "scare" anyway so- just waiting the the time I really have to delete that bookmark like I've done with other virtual social gatherings before when I don't identify with the values of place anymore. By the looks of it it's bound to happen to everything big out there away from the fediverse, either by greed, simping for power, or caving to coercion/ oppression/ roman saluters (and I don't mean the food in case there is a dish with that name)
I never noticed before nowjch Ned Stark looks like he's holding a karaoke microphone in this image.
Why doesn't lemmy have videos like reddit
Video is very intensive in both storage and bandwidth, we all basically took youtube for granted in that respect. It took Reddit a long time to support video natively, (actually, it also took Reddit a long time to support images natively lmfao) just a couple years ago iirc.
But video here is supported with the old Reddit way, uploading to imgur and posting the direct image url
Like here: https://lemmy.world/post/27402635
The domain I'm from does a cost breakdown of what it takes to run 1.28k traffic/day as of posting, if you're curious:
https://sh.itjust.works/post/31922118
I tried out Lemmy during the initial Reddit migration but didn't stick around. This week I finally deleted all my Reddit posts and comments along with my account and I'm giving the fediverse another chance. Fuck big tech.
Yee let's go
blocked !
@[email protected] Do you like reading, or even marvel at libraries and stuff? The last time I checked literature.cafe, the atmosphere (as well as the instance (I call it "online raft", for one) mods there) seems to be typical of a small town library. It also has comms for fanfics in general, and genre-specific ones.
I bet there's also even-smaller fedi-rafts out there that cater to a specific creative interest/hobby, or an entire fandom; time and effort will tell.
Lemmy.ml living rent free in this person mind lmao. If you spent half the time you spam post crying about them developing a fork of Lemmy you would have actually be free from them now. At this point I'm starting to think you're actually getting paid for spewing brain rot
Apparently, it's the other way around, i seem to live in davel's head rent free since they went out of their way to un-siteban me to reissue the ban as individual comm bans instead so they could brigade/dogpile on my posts LMAO
In any event, I'm not just making memes either, I have documented their censorship:
https://lemmy.world/post/26783983
https://lemmy.world/post/26730734
https://lemmy.world/post/26416571
https://lemmy.world/post/26047186
https://lemmy.world/post/25811271
And their Authoritarian support
https://lemmy.world/post/26683568
https://lemmy.world/post/25933288
https://lemmy.world/post/25280256
https://lemmy.world/post/25129246
And the propaganda they allow to proliferate
https://lemmy.world/post/27416097
https://lemmy.world/post/27012640
And even what they think of other non-Tankie instances
https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
And that's not only just a sampling of what I've posted, everything I've collected on [email protected] the past couple weeks is a mere fraction of what they've been doing for years, if I actually did a deep dive into the modlog id probably find MUCH MUCH more
I do this because I consider Tankies to be an ongoing threat to the reputation of the Lemmy-verse and it's health, I've already seen expressions by others elsewhere like Reddit along the lines of "I tried Lemmy, but it seemed to be a bunch of tankies so I left".
Yes that what I said they live rent free in your head get a life please, and accept that people on the internet might have different opinions than yours. Do you realize their might be people of different nationalities on Lemmy that have grown with their national narrative which might be different than yours ? Can you let them discuss and interaction with others without harassing them and spamming your narrative, which we can already find everywhere on internet especially on reddit ? We understood China and Russia bad thanks for the memo I hadn't had it yet.
"Why are you wasting your time fighting their left-flavored authoritarianism and toxicity‽ Just step aside and let them be to allow well known Russia/NK propaganda outlets to spread and proliferate and that "Russia is actually the good guys" already"
Thanks for the concern, however, I'll spend my free time how I see fit.
Most of my work is focused on documentation and the occasional meme, I find it funny and interesting that you hate that so much. But as we all know, authoritarians hate it when people expose them.
You are not fighting anything my guy you are actively harassing the very own people that develop the algorithm that let us interact together because, god forbid, they have different political opinion than you. Just go back to Reddit if you want an US echo chamber.
Please point me to this "harassment". Am I messaging them directly constantly? Am I following them on GitHub and posting on their comments?
Because documenting what they say and the actions they take is not "harassment", that sounds like a line straight out of the Drump administration or Muskrat TBH. In fact, I'm pretty sure Muskrat did use that line of narrative with that one person who was documenting his private jet flights.
Like I said, Authoritarians hate when people track what they do and will use all manner of words to discredit it, "harassment", "fake news" etc.
Just because you're doing good dev/open source work, does not mean you get a free pass to push and spread toxicity and harmful propaganda. Especially when using power and influence from that work to do it.
Ok first l'm sorry for some of the comment I've made that were childish. I actually do value the fact you're posting a lot as without people like you this place would be dead. I think people need to see opposing point of view to grow on the contrary echo chamber make you stagnate on your own auto satisfaction circle. And it is not like if you give to read Lemmy.ml to an American he will suddenly become pro russia or china that not how it works. So I do not like at all the push you are making for people to block lemmy.ml and such communities because I think it is a really bad move
Thanks, fair disclosure, a decent chunk is crossposted material, but a much larger chunk is my own stuff I've come across or made
The problem isn't an opposing view, actually, there are quite a few points that I fully support. Like being able to see capitalism fall in my lifetime, id love to see that happen
The problem is the authoritarian propaganda that's being pushed, authoritarianism is authoritarianism and wrong regardless of whether it's from the left or the right. Fuck the US authoritarianism and fuck Russia/CCP authoritarianism
I ask people to do so, based on the evidence I've collected, they're free to review that evidence to make an informed decision nothing more
He is not posting a lot, he is re-posting a lot of lemmy.ml content in the hopes of drawing people away from lemmy.ml communities.
🙄 “Authoritarians” hate being tracked so much that they created the modlog.
A broken clock...and there are some rumblings they are screwing with it. I have not seen direct evidence myself of it, so I don't push it.
But there are some breadcrumbs, like how it used to actually list the mod or admin that took the action and now it just says "mod" or "admin"
Or how .ml's modlog has the ability to filter by mods disabled but other instances don't
I don't think they are getting paid, but they are from lemmy.world. They are known for open signups that invite trolls, power mods, conservatives, etc. The instance has a lot of US people, the kind that think democrats are leftists. I see a lot of what I didn't like about reddit in lemmy.world.
Tankies are the biggest problem, even though most instances have defederated from them, and here we have a community dedicated to screenshots of their community where we can dunk on them even though dunking is actually really bad since tankies do it /s. By that logic shouldn't the CSAM instances be the biggest problem? Sure most instances defederated them but they exist, along with far right instances.
EDIT: Nevermind, OP has spent weeks complaining about tankies. There is no getting through to that. I think lemmy has more worse problems than tankies. Also meanwhile on grad welcomes conservatives but it's all good because at least they aren't tankies right.
It is funny because you see yourself as a freedom of speech defender against the bad tankies that censors opinion, yet you're on a crusade to silence them because can't stand them having discussion and opinion you cannot censors.
Yea, no, we'll be just fine without right-wingers. We have no desire for r/conservative users to migrate here, they can stay on Reddit.
I'd rather deal with 10 tankies than one of y'all any day of the week.
Making assumptions, stereotyping, and generalizing. You are the worst.
Im not the strawman you seek.
Lol, I can read, your words here are in fact public
Let us know when you start contributing to 'making this place better'
You'll be the first one I alert.