Reddit is so very confused..
So yesterday I received a 7-day ban for 'encouraging violence', for saying that Luigi Mangione did not deserve to go to jail. It was obviously bullshit, somebody got a little hair-trigger on the new directive from Der Fuhrer spez or something, so I appealed. That appeal was reviewed and the temp ban lifted and the 'offending' comment restored, but 11 hours prior to that I got another message that I had been perma-banned for violating Reddit's rules with my 'other account(s)'. Well that's also bullshit because I've had exactly one (1) account in the 14 years I've been on reddit, so I appealed that too, and thus we get to the cherry on top: I am no longer banned, I can post and such again, but they sent me the above message saying that my appeal had been denied and that the perma-ban was staying in place. But rather than linger in reddit limbo, I think I'm gonna switch permanently to lemmy. 14 years worth of curating subs will suck to redo, but oh well, life is change.
Welcome, glad to have you aboard!
Thanks, glad to be here!
Your not the only one, I heard others were reddit banned soon after their temp ban ended
I was perma-banned 11 hours before my temp-ban appeal was lifted. Then I was unbanned, but they sent a message saying my ban would stay. I think they're just falling over themselves in their headlong rush to embrace fascism.
i heard mods were even complaining about this on modhelp sub, early in jan and feb, thier filters are still recognizing accts as ban evaders despite it being lifted sitewide, they are definitely and intentionally using an AI to filter ban alot of people, probably have certain parameters.
I’ve basically abandoned Reddit as well. I’ve been on for so long, but this bullshit makes me feel unsafe. If the platform is going to so blatantly side with those who would happily let me die for a few dollars (health insurance companies), then I don’t need to give them my attention or data anymore.
Welcome to Lemmy. Outside of niche subjects and local content I think this place has everything reddit does but with less bullshit. If people keep making the switch in large numbers we'll build all those communities too and be better off for it.
I used the tool where I could import my Reddit subs to find similar communities here, and it surprised me how many communities I was a part of that the Reddit algorithm never let me see posts from. Also, it highlighted how much more infrastructure there is to build here. It’s exciting! Like the creative energy of expanding the Wild West but without the decimation of entire indigenous communities and the murder of innocent people and animal species.
Welcome to the Fediverse! If you've been on Reddit for 14 years, you were attracted to what it once was. Lemmy is that, but a whole lot better, and your skills as a moderator will be highly valued here. In fact, if you are looking to start up any new communities hmu and I'll see about giving you a hand.
Also, here's your obligatory Saint Luigi blessing for the banned:
remember kids:
A place in heaven is reserved for those who speak truth to power
I have no skills as a moderator, sadly, I avoid responsibility as a lifestyle. Thanks for the warm welcome tho. :)
Reddit. Doesn't. Want. Active. Users.
It wants bots. It wants HailCorporate promotional accounts. And it wants your eyeballs to look at their ads. It doesn't want you to participate in any meaningful way.
Stop using the site. Stop pretending this site is intended to be used by real people. Be glad they're doing this and not simply baiting you along with fake interactions while you've been shadowbanned and left to unwittingly scream into the void.
I did say I think I was gonna switch.
Imo that comment was made to reinforce your message, it wasn't written as a message to you (because you had already decided).
It's giving that vibe, yeah
Absolutely. Reddit has been shit for a long time, I'm glad they banned me, it was a nice push to stop using that garbage website.
I haven't and I won't. Lemmy is a far more positive atmosphere with less content, but better quality content. There's less overt manipulation and not everything is politicised. I just don't trust reddit
Same. Funny all those douches who said we'd be back in a week lol
The slower pace of content is a huge plus to me.
13 year account here, also banned for supporting Luigi. I tried to appeal, but the post had already been removed so I didn't know what exactly I said that violated the rules, and my appeal was denied. This was a post I made back in December, mind you. They went looking for a reason to ban a Luigi supporter. They did homework.
Somebody over there is really afraid of how popular Luigi's actions are. I wonder why...
They're trying to turn it into a right wing echo chamber.
The behavior from the paranoid self-culling of r/Conservative— sorta looks like it spread to the entire site. Kind of insane watching this go down.
I feel like we are in comfortable little life rafts watching big boat set itself on fire and sink.
Many subs already are.
Permabanned for "glorifying or inciting violence" by replying to a post about Elon Musk under a dinosaur poop meme, where someone asked "what should the would richest man do?" with "he should eat shit and die".
Here for good.
Much wow, such violence. Ban deserved, imo, yep. Fuck Reddit.
Come on, they're just protecting the most vulnerable people in society. If they don't fight for the richest man on the planet, who will? /s
I got permabanned for saying “trans women are women”, which they said was encouraging violence. So who even knows what’s happening there at this point.
Because that’s auto bans from right wingers reporting you en masse. Appeal it.
Yeah, those mofos are just batshit now.
Reddit is a bot-infested hellscape. I got so mad when I learned that most AITAH posts and popular sub posts were just karma farmers preying on our attention. Lemmy seems to offer some relief. Happy to be here :)
Remember the time that they banned bots and didn't get a new submission for like 48 hours on one of the most popular subs?
Dude for the last year on Reddit I could NOT get a normal feed. It was always sneaking in AITA threads. It was absurd. And then the comments were even more absurd.
Did you see the PR company/ PR person Melissa Nathan that was caught manipulating pop culture subreddits for actors?
Like I could tell it was off and not at all like Reddit used to work but all this makes it so apparent that the content is being driven so hard by factions and bots. It’s mostly not real people anymore doing or influencing anything.
So glad to be on Lemmy with you :)
Welcome! There are dozens of us
Didn't I see you at the convention in Munich last year?
Cadby, from the consulate right? This is so weird!
Dozens now, hundreds tomorrow, thousands next week.
52K / 12 = 4.3K dozens to be exact
Luigi is a hero
It is too much pressure for Reddit to have this many users. They're doing their best to get rid of them. It's just too much to handle... Poor Reddit
Help Reddit's well-being by leaving it and join Lemmy today!
"Damn users trying to comment on stuff. Just shut up and keep scrolling instead. Our bots can handle the comments."
lmfao fuck reddit cause this is so true
Probably will trick a lot of lurkers
I got banned for asking why someone’s comment was banned. Crazy shit over there.
When anything is free but money's being made, you're the product (as we know) and Reddit seems increasingly worried about the quality of their product
More like there’s a concerted right wing effort to get everyone banned. That’s why the appeals are lifted. Then they report you again over and over until you leave. That’s what they are actually doing.
Makes sense. Bastards, fuck em anyway
Honestly? Let them cater to them and accelerate the death of the site.
My main concern is that Luigi isn’t even confirmed to be the one to have pulled the trigger, right?
But even if he was, I still don't think he should go to jail for it.
Nah, he didn't do it, but someone definitely should've. Not Luigi tho, he was chillin' at my house that whole week.
Yeah, I was on Reddit for over a decade. And the changes especially in these past couple years have been so dramatic. I received a seven day band today for like the third time and finally deleted the app and here I am . No looking back.
Once the era of easy money ended a bunch of tech companies who are never profitable and never needed to be because of the 0% interest rates are close to it all of a sudden had to get really profitable really fast so they all enshittified very rapidly
I dumped Reddit over the weekend.
They may all go to hell, and I will go to Lemmy.
I got a 3 day sitewide suspension, and (very surprisingly) a permaban from /r/fuckthealtright for calling a story about an Infowars employee getting murdered "uplifting."
This same thing happened to me twice in one week. I haven't had a ban on my account in 14 years. I've given up on Reddit and just deleted my account. Fuck them if they want to treat us like we're children. I won't use their platform again.
Yeah it's been getting increasingly fashy over there. They've blocked topics before, but to my knowledge they've never banned people for upvoting something. It's crazy. Next they're going to start banning any anti-Israel content as antisemitic, or anything pro-Palestine as promoting terrorism or whatever. It's gotten MUCH worse since the IPO, too, so it's clearly being done for the benefit of the advertisers.
Reddit already heavily censors anything pro-Palestinian.
I have said some pretty aggressively and unambiguously pro-Palestine things over there and never been dinged once for it, so I haven't seen it. shrug
Although I did notice that certain of my comments would act like they posted only to not actually post, to the point that I've taken to writing longer posts in notepad and pasting them over, and the ones that fail all seem to have something to do with Israel or Palestine. But usually a couple of attempts at posting them gets through, so.. shrug
They more or less shadow banning people in huge numbers compared to a full site wideban, this way trick people thinking they are still using reddit
Paranoid me says they're trying to ban all of the older accounts with clear liberal bias. 14 years for me too and my permaban was for saying I'd "take a couple with me" if Nazis ever came for me. Appealed and upheld.
Crazy to think defending yourself is something worthy of a ban, but here we are. Fuck 'em I guess. They won't make money off of me and I won't post to their communities. Sounds like a lose/lose situation for them.
Leftist self-defense is aggression. Fascist aggression is self-defense.
Please feel free to create the communities you find are missing still! Things are smaller and slower here, but that means that even in the popular threads, people will actually see and read your comments rather than them disappearing in an ocean of bots or (DELETED).
If I come across something I can't find here I will certainly do that.
I'm using Voyager and you can copy the link for all of your subscribed subreddits (if you haven't deleted your account yet) and enter it into the app. It will search Lemmy for similar communities.
You can appoint other people to mod, but if a community remains without moderation for a significant amount of time, someone else might ask admin to take it over. You can also create "copies" on each individual federated host which allows for competing subs without having to snipe for community names at creation time.
Not perfect but much better than any of the alternatives.
Instead of one central server divided in subreddits, we have dozens/hundreds of "instances" of Lemmy, which are almost all federated with each other. This means that posts, comments,... propagate between all the federated ones, not just the one you're on. This serves to eliminate the need for one central authority (which can be hacked/bribed/changed/...). The largest instance right now is lemmy.world. If you were to create a new community there, it would federate to all other connected servers and people can interact with the content freely. If someone else wanted to start the same community, they would be able to do this, including the same name, if they create it on another origin instance (for example lemm.ee). From that point onwards, both communities will be live and be able to "live" next to each other without crossing boundaries or running into any technical issues.
This also means it's almost impossible to get truly banned on Lemmy since you can simply create a new account on another instance. Since (shadow)banning is being massively misused by Reddit right now, this will eventually be the biggest reason for the growth of Lemmy. Reddit has become a staunchly anti-consumer/anti-user platform where trying to contribute is actively being resisted by power users/mods - and then they want to monetize your contributions through ads as well. No thank you.
I got shadow banned for making a popular post about dyi Luigi prayer candles on witches vs patriarchy. No warning no notification just a site wide permanent shadow ban on an old account with high karma. I feel like this is a better community though so win win I guess. Funny because I feel like they’re banning most real people and just leaving the bots lol. Tons of people post on shadow banned everyday this can’t be a healthy business model.
Witches vs. patriarchy is one of the only good places left on Reddit. Until they ban all of us there, at least.
I don’t think it was the mods I think it was Reddit
Oh, for sure it *wasn't the WvP mods.
Love witchesvpatriarchy in our family. I really hope a lot of the witches from there join in Lemmy. Tell your circles.
Got my badge of honor today. Reddit are bootlickers.
I got my badge of honor during the API purge, when I mass edited all of my old comments before deleting them. It’s a little more quiet here, but it honestly reminds me of the early Reddit days. If you tag users, you’ll start to see just how small of a community it actually is; I see my tags all over the place in nearly every comment section.
If you haven’t done so, consider looking into the various apps. Voyager (sometimes called Wefwef by the older users) is a sort of spiritual successor to Apollo. So if you’re an old Apollo user, you’ll likely feel right at home.
It’s not something Lemmy natively supports, but (a lot like Reddit Enhancement Suite) the various apps should allow you to do so. For instance, on Voyager, you can do it via the options menu on the user’s profile.
I’m on voyager and yes, I miss this!
same here. fucking bootlickers.
Welcome reddit refugee!! Best time to ditch reddit was in july 2023 second best time is now
What happened in July 2023? Was that the APIpocalypse? That didn't really affect me cause I barely use mobile.
Yup, API changes were around that time
Same man, I've been on Reddit pretty much since 2005.
It seems like such a waste of 20 years of doom scrolling, imagine if I'd put that time into learning a trade, or another language...
You’re doom scrolling right now on lemmy.
If Reddit didn’t turn to shit I don’t see how your doom scrolling wasn’t already a waste of time.
But wasting time is the point right? You can’t spent every single minute of your day being productive.
It’s like people complaining that playing video games and watching moves is a huge waste of time. Like, durrrr, that’s the point.
Aye, it's just escapism one way or another.
But no, we must be active 100% of the time.
We don't have to do that wank "/s" here do we??
Not really no. But some ppl still edit and /s if some took it seriously and gave them a lot of 'downvotes'. Guess it's just an old reflex for fear of having less 'karma', which isn't a thing here.
That's not how brains work, they need time to unwind, so you would've just found some other method to do that.
Funny thing about that is nobody at work looks twice if I'm leaning back and obviously doomscrolling on my phone, but spend fifteen minutes on Codewars and every person who walks by my desk is all suspicious...
Considering the time you were at reddit (not too different from mine), I think you'll find Lemmy like reddit was in your earlier times there.
What I mean by that is generally more thoughtful and reasonable discussion (generally), smaller communities, more generalized (but specific stuff is accepted, so "all ttrpg is good here" vs "thats pathfinder, this is for 5e only!", as an example.
Welcome and I hope you enjoy it here!
Also, if you come across a server you think fits better as a home base - make an account, see if it fits. You dont have to stay in one spot just because its where you made your first.
Glad to hear it, I look forward to poking around.
Simple solution: don't go on that shithole unless it's to repost content here
I did say I thought I was going to switch..
In a Yogscast TTT video some years back, Rythian used 'Green Mario' as a joking name for Bouphe, who was using the Luigi player model at the time.
For those who want to undermine reddit's power trip, I propose Green Mario as the first stick in their knee-bending attitude.
Classic Rythian.
These companies are revealing their true colors now that they think it's acceptable to do so.
Indeed. The enshittification of the internet proceeds apace.
Curating subs? I see it as more of "creating my own bubble". Lemmy is a good way to kinda expose myself to other stuff for a change and not just the reddit hive mind.
I mean, how many times have you opened a post and knew what the top 3 comments would be??
Weeeelllll... technically there are a couple of Lemmy cliches, but you make a good point. Canned bot responses to farm karma are certainly awful, with the only human exception being "look up en passant" because that was intentional predicability.
I've seen one person respond to something here with simply "this is the way," and the flashbacks were real
Getting annoyed just reading that in quote form. The obsession with "I think you should leave" is getting too much too. I love that show and they're making me like it less by constantly referencing it.
Seriously the stupid rehashing of old top comments. Posted by bots. Who are commenting on a repost posted by a bot.
Fuck me. It’s never a recycling of Reddit specific lore or history or inside jokes. Just the lowest hanging fruit. Over and over and over.
It’s like being forced to sit through a sitcom where the actors are all robots and there’s no live audience or laugh track.
It's been almost two years since my exodus. I've popped in Reddit a few times for specific information, but I noticed I just feel like crap when I do. It's just so toxic. I didn't notice it until I spent time in Lemmy.
Every long term reddit bans and/or alienates and comes to lemmy, benefits us all. Welcome!
It seems like ever since the DOGE kids were posted on Reddit and Elon got mad the ban hammer has been out en force.
Funny, I have said some extremely disparaging things about Musk in specific and oligarchs in general in the last couple weeks and not a single one of those comments got dinged. shrug
The adjustment can be a little awkward at first but there's plenty to do on Lemmy if you take some time to learn how things work and how to get the most out of it.
If you're the type of person that enjoys posting and guiding topics there's no shortage of people hungry for content on Lemmy. There are lots of active communities but even more that are still trying to get off the ground or need someone interested to adopt them.
Whatever your interests, https://lemmyverse.net/ is a great way to find communities for the topics you care about if you aren't finding them on lemmy.world.
I hope your time here is more enjoyable than where you're coming from.
Thanks! Honestly it's been less of an adjustment than I expected. Took a couple hours to read about it and figure out how it works, picked a server, and jumped right in. The big thing is that I'm losing that whole curated sub list that I'm going to have to replicate, but I'm sure it'll take care of itself.
If you happen to use or try the Voyager app they have a migration tool that is supposed to work well.
Interesting, I'll take a look at that, thanks!
I’m here because r/pics bots are assholes and mods don’t reply to asking why they banned you, the auto ban says I was banned because at some point in my many years I commented on a subreddit they didn’t like. I carried on just fine, but when I was browsing one day with a different account I commented on another r/pics post and now both accounts are banned for 7 days for ban evasion. The bots still never told me what to do about it to fix it and they denied my appeal, so fuck em.
Deleted that app, and all my other social media apps, Facebook, instagram, x, Reddit, threads, etc. im tired of arguing with all the bots. But I need something to still be able to scroll, so here I am.
I got permabanned during the women's March for cheering on the March posters and such. I started and admined the /keitruck sub reddit. I also had some other subreddits that weren't as big. Keitruck is pretty small though. All that work for nothing. So I didn't fight the ban, just moved here. Good move! Now I only go to reddit from accidentally clicking on web searches. Who knows WTF is going on.
bring your subs, bring your friends!
Welcome to the Lemmy BDSM convention!
I think there is a very simple solution to all your problems with reddit...
I did say I think I'm gonna permanently switch to lemmy..
Should something like this ever happen to me, I'll be happy to leave Reddit behind. Right now I'm still looking to promote Lemmy.
Hello
Hi!
Did you also get troll reported to that automated help response for people that may be contemplating self harm?
That was always a good time. Man, I miss Reddit so much...
Oh not in this instance, but I definitely have before.
That was always the surest sign I'd really pissed off a RWNJ. Good times
Welcome to Lemmy! If you find it's not quite you your liking, there is also Mbin which is sort of similar but has some significant differences too.
Personally, I like them both and they're both federated.
If you wanted to check it out, https://fedia.io is the more popular instance.
They’re finniky bastards.
I switched to Lemmy after r/news banned me for obvious hyperbole. Reddit used to be a place where dark humor in the face of absurd events was allowed. I'm not even sure if Lemmy is any better, but I've had all of the humor and interest in life beat out of me now, so I guess I'll be okay.
Yeeaaaah, I miss the dark humor, people here are sometimes a bit too literal. To be fair, they have their reasons, from being neurodivergent to being from cultures that just don't do dark humor. Our All feed really is everyone.
The free market works in mysterious ways.
Welcome soldier!
o7
Now that you're unbanned, consider using a tool to edit all of your comments to gibberish to remove your value from reddit. I've seen it a lot, it's easy to do, and it works.
Reddit has access to your edit history, it only works for as long as they don't see a need to restore it. And it probably doesn't work at all in regards to preventing ai training.
I personally have found search results that would have been useful or able to solve my problem if they hadn't had this done to them. It has pushed me to search site:reddit.com far less, so I know it works. The fewer people visiting reddit the better.
I definitely don't want to provide reddit with any more value, but many of my posts and comments were informative or had a good way to explain something or the like, and I still get random replies and mail years later on some of them. This (in general, not on reddit in specific) i feel is my contribution to society, so shitting on that just to very slightly inconvenience reddit feels counterproductive. I don't receive any direct benefit from it (and upon leaving reddit I won't even get the indirect benefit of people telling me how helpful I was), but I am content to know that maybe I've helped a few people.
I still get random replies on the stuff I turned to gibberish. Though looking at my old u/, a lot of the most upvoted ones were straight up nuked. Which wasn't the case last time I checked.
Neat.
Doesn't really work, Reddit has your posts and comments archived and if they're selling access they'll likely be including that. All it does is inconvenience everyday human users.
A fresh new start can do wonders. Reddit is freaking fever dream in every direction.
Probably, but 14 years is a whole lot of inertia to overcome.
Yeah, so far I have no complaints. Honestly I've been pretty unhappy with reddit's design since they disabled new.reddit to use the old-new design. I don't mind how the new-new design looks, but it's just functionally worse in practically every way. The notification menu is shit now, my comments don't get posted half the time so I have to write them in notepad first, etc, collapsing threads is fiddly and inconsistent (sometimes there's a line on the left I can click, sometimes I just have to click in the empty space by the poster's name and hope for the best), etc, so I've no love lost for Reddit's shit. I spent about an hour fiddling with UIs and settled on Alexandrite and I'm pretty happy with it. I love that we have options, too, and aren't just crammed into one shit UI and told to cope.
My only real concern so far has been that there aren't a lot of active subs in some of the areas I'm interested in. I've spent a lot of time the last 5 years or so on subs like r/askaliberal, r/politicaldebate, r/debatereligion, r/debatecommunism, r/anarchism, etc, and I've looked around a bit and haven't really seen any good debate subs for either politics or religion. I've no interest in creating one myself and dealing with that headache tho, so. shrug
As for instance, I just joined lemmy.world since it seemed large and official, but then, yeah, I've been browsing /all and having to block sub after sub that I'm not interested in to clean my feed up. Not sure if there's a better way to go about that.
When Reddit bans or even just temporarily suspends me, I just create a new account right away and jump back in.
I only use Reddit in a Brave private window. If I want to use Reddit on my phone I just use RedReader and never bother logging in. I don't really feel the need to post when I'm mobile anyway.
Once I'm banned/suspended I open a Firefox window and create a new Outlook account.
Open a new Brave private window and create a new Reddit account with the new email. Log in. But hey, all your subreddits aren't there from your old account and man, it's going to be annoying to re-add all those subs, right? Nah. There's a browser script for that.
In your old Reddit account go to old.reddit.com/subreddits or whatever button you click on in Reddit that shows a list of all your subreddits. At the top of your list of subs is a link titled "multireddit of your subscriptions". Right click on that link and copy it.
Now go to your new Reddit account and paste that link in the URL field and hit enter and you'll have a list of all your subs from your old account with the join button next to all of them. You could go down the list clicking join on all of them. I have hundreds, so screw that. I use the script. I won't paste my script, just go to Google and search for "Reddit sub auto-add script Github". There's a few different ones you can try. Essentially, in the window with your new account and all the subs with the join buttons, you are hitting F12 to open the developer console, clicking on the "Console" tab, and then pasting the script and hitting "Enter" to run it. The script is essentially just searching the page for all the "Join" buttons and auto-clicking them.
NOTE: If the script is clicking those join buttons too fast, or if you've decided to manually go down the page clicking the join buttons and you're doing it too fast, Reddit detects that and will block you from Reddit for like 10-15 minutes before you can continue. In any of these scripts you'll see a number, usually 500. That's the milliseconds the script waits before clicking on the next join button. 500 used to work. Now you'll want to change that to like 3000 or 5000 to increase the wait time. 5000 has been working for me.
That's it though. You can just leave that window with the script open and it'll go down your list of subs auto-joining them. Before I found that script it was REALLY annoying manually clicking on hundreds of join buttons. Now, steps 1-4 take me less than 5 minutes and then step 5 is automated so I just go do something else. My new accounts aren't shadowbanned and I'm back on their shitty site nice and quick. Because honestly, I wouldn't still bother with their site at all if I had to wait for my suspension to end or had to manually rejoin all my subs every time.
Real pro tip, delete that shitty app and use something more feasible.
welcome home!