Donald Trump Calls Tesla Boycotts Illegal - Newsweek
Jesus, this guy gets dumber and more dementia addled by the day.
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Declaring a boycott as illegal is itself illegal and a violation of the 1st Amendment 🌷🌈🖕
The republican controlled congress will impeach any minute now...
Any. minute. Now.
Maybe Trump doesn’t know what the word “illegal” means 
Oh, he knows. It’s his middle name.
Bad news, there's precedent for making boycotts illegal, though that's based on a deliberate misreading of hate speech laws
I was actually reading this wikipedia page earlier after posting and it seemed like these Anti-BDS laws only apply to government offices and government contractors
A broad law mandating that the public at large can't not buy certain products, or can't ask others to do the same would be unenforceable I would think -- though I'm not going to doubt the Roberts Court ability to find some way to make something that absurd law if asked by their king...
Maybe you should read the news instead of wikipedia? Maybe you should check reality instead of what's supposedly "legal"?
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20181218-texas-teacher-fired-for-refusing-to-sign-anti-bds-oath/
It's been decades of these attacks and they've laid the foundation for the expansions that we're seeing now.
Uh same to you? Did you check up on how that case from 2018 ended? She won and they changed the law, and the latest I found with a quick search is that CAIR was appealing to get Texas to pay her the compensation she was owed from the original trial but denied because since the state changed the law Texas was arguing they no longer had to pay the original amount awarded (typical Texas, big fuck you to Ken Paxton)
Did you have another example?
I don't even understand how a boycott would be illegal. It's illegal to not buy products from a certain company? How can you tell if a person is not buying because they're boycotting or because they never had the intention of buying in the first place?
Everyone's actually required to buy a Tesla now or else they're gonna be in really big trouble
I'm more blown away by the communism level planned economy lately.
Lol tell that to the zios.
For me, the Tesla brand is permanently damaged. I will never buy a Tesla. I don't care if they're good EVs, I don't care if they're the best EVs, I will never buy one.
The thing is they aren’t even good EVs.
Pretty decent dumpsters, though.
Raccoon approved apparently!
Like it wasn't "damaged" before, even from the start... It has always been bad.
No, the roadster was really cool, the S was neat too, then the 3 being at a relatively good price point really pushed the market toward EVs in general. I am glad for that at least.
What is this article? "critics said resembled a Nazi salute"? Fuck off, Nazi apologists. He did a Nazi salute. It happened.
Nowadays we're all under Leon's watchful eye. He'll call out billionaires and straight-up fabricate shit about them. He knows no one is gonna come at him in any meaningful way. If anyone should manage to get on his radar (camera, whatever lol... Had to throw in a stupid Tesla joke) they will be thrust into the public eye where he's comfortable and in control of the narrative enough to intimidate most into submission. He is big brother now, and it couldn't be stupider
No, he did TWO Nazi salutes. One right after another.
Liberalism -> Fascism.
The hit dog yelps. The boycotts are working.
AI slop, sadly
What's Musky gonna do? Sue everyone who doesn't buy a swastika like he's trying to do to advertisers who left Twitter?
Yeah I just dead-named that bitch
I like the combination Xitter, pronounced "shitter"
I usually pronounce it 'zitter'. Either way seems fitting.
I sometimes refer to him as Twitler.
what does that mean lol is everyone required by law to buy a tesla
this guy wouldnt know 'illegal' if he grabbed it by the pussy
Are you suggesting that convicted felon Donald Trump lacks respect for the law?
I think what he wants is all our 401k by law having to invest in Telsa stock. I wouldn't put it past him to lauch an EO demanding that.
tHe mArKeT WiLl ReGuLaTe ItSeLf!
Like I get it, kind of, the need to call him stupid. But we need to move past this and start calling it what it is. Power consolidation, violations of the constitution, a fucking coup. Him and his handlers know exactly what they’re doing.
So, what I’m interested in here is: what the fuck are you gonna do about it, orangeboi? Bitch and moan? What’s the punishment for boycotting the brand? Spell it out for me. I want you, or eel-on-musk, to explain what you’re going to do to directly counter this “illegal boycott” - putting aside the fact that that combination of words makes about as much sense as “aerodynamic bedsheet”.
Everyone who doesn't purchase a Tesla by 2026 is getting deported.
Don't give them the ideas!
I dunno, at this point please send me to another country.
Trump just has the strategy to give media 3 topics which make good headlines every day. Then he can do the "important" stuff unbothered. Soo, this ist the kind of stuff we hear about. But, what about the rest?
Exactly, it's all just smoke and mirrors.
"Hey, look over there while I do something under the table“
"Free" market
"Free" "market"
Fixed that for you.
Aww cry harder trump
"we believe in the free market"
"NO NOT LIKE THAT"
There's journalists right now getting murdered for standing up to tyranny and this spineless ass-kissing ball-gargling excuse of a tabloid writer is excusing Nazis.
Journalists employers are all friends. This Makes it nearly impossible to for journalists in large orgs to stand up to oligarchs. Although it does make for great pageantry for non-billionaires.
Would be nice if someone hacked a fleet of teslas to full-self-drive straight to the landfill.
Oh I guess the orange con man is also gonna tell us what kind of underwear we're allowed to buy now.
Well, that depends...
I see what you did there.
Does he still take questions from journalists? I thought they were only letting sycophants in as 'press'
I'm a criminal.
Welcome to the club - sincerely all stoners pre-prohibition (Canadian)!
I'll smoke crumbs from my 40 year old carpets before I pay taxes on weed after all those decades of gleeful persecution and prosecution. The things Fantino used to say about pot users in the newspaper, and now he's a canabis magnate. Fuck that, it's black market for life.
You say that, but before weed was legal here i was buying ounces for anywhere from $150-$200 with extremely inconsistent quality.
Nowadays if you don't care about quality you can get an ounce as cheap as $60 Additionally, you can get an ounce of legitimately good weed for around $100.
And honestly, the benefit of being able to grow our own legally is pretty nice.
Aside from that I truly do understand the whole "taxation is theft" thing, but that has far more to do with the government's mismanagement of tax revenue than the taxes themselves. Taxes are necessary for subsidy and they make important necessities far more affordable. If the additional revenue from cannabis was actually used properly, I'd be extremely happy about that especially since I'm actually spending less on weed now than before.
And whatever, fuck fantino, everyone with a brain in their head can tell he's full of shit.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I am glad that legalization finally happened, and I do benefit from it. But the state and the capitalists that ultimately won/bought us legal weed (thanks?) don't benefit from my addiction.
My concern is not an abstract one about taxation/theft, it's about the disrespect of cannabis users slipping without a transition into the exploitation of cannabis users. I don't know what exactly is going on, but my spidey senses say not to be involved in that.
Y'know what, I get that. I can respect your reasons to not partake in legal weed.
FEDS HERE HE IS! HE'S BOYCOTTING TESLA!
SEIZE EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T OWN A TESLA
DEPORT
Suck my balls. The US constitution says differently, little piss baby.
It's illegal to not buy one? Does that mean we all have to buy one now? Lol
From the guy who knows all about illegal.
Is it a boycott if I was never going to buy that piece of crap in the first place?
Based on his past behavior, I think we can all agree that of all the things this dumbass doesn't know, what's legal or illegal is definitely top of that list.
"Well, maybe it's not illegal yet, but it will be soon."
-Republicans, probably.
OPEC is not gonna like Krasnov pushing EV's
Why not just cut to the chase, make a presidential order saying that everyone must buy a Tesla and if you don't (or can't) you will be punished?
So it's now illegal not to buy a product?
Yes, see Israel.
Before people start throwing around the Mussolini quote, as much as I'd LIKE to believe it, apparently it can't be sourced. :(
The quote isn't WRONG, it just can't be sourced to Mussolini.
https://politicalresearch.org/2005/01/12/mussolini-corporate-state
“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” — Benito Mussolini
It is generally attributed to an article written by Mussolini in the 1932 Enciclopedia Italiana with the assistance of Giovanni Gentile, the editor.
The quote, however, does not appear in the Enciclopedia Italiana in the original Italian.
Giovanni Gentile being otherwise known as the philosopher of fascism and the guy putting ideas straight into Mussolini's brain. Whether it's a paraphrase or direct translation, the idea itself is certainly covered by the more famous "everything within the state" quote and describes an undeniable goal of fascism.
If you don't buy a model x every day then you're getting arrested
And yet I shall continue
Hahahaha.
So whiny.
Translation: Stop resisting!
Another episode in the series: "Krasnov Speaks".
Then deport me to Norway.
Related, BDS is illegal in the US meaning that you are legally obligated to purchase things from Israel. It's unenforceable on an individual level, but it's used to come after people who promote or organize the boycott. If Trump and the Republicans wanted to make it illegal to boycott Tesla, they would have legal precedent because of that absolute lunacy.
It's not limited to government contractors. They push it into anything they think they can get away with it, and into things they know they can't just for show. For example, in Dickinson, Texas, hurricane victims were required to sign a pledge that they wouldn't boycott Israel in order to receive funds. Companies also face retaliatory legal action if they make moves in that direction, like how AirBNB had to reverse it's decision to shut down operations in the illegal settlements.
The idea of "it's fine because you can do it anyway, just don't say that you are" is still a problem. Boycotts should not have to operate on "don't ask, don't tell." Like, you're "allowed" to participate in a boycott in the same way gay people in the 50's were "allowed" to be gay.
Regardless, as I said, there is legal precedent to ban Tesla boycotts in the same way, such a ban would obviously be unenforceable on the general population, but for example if you're a teacher, they could make you sign a contract saying you won't boycott Tesla and you could be fired if you post otherwise on social media.
This is how you know it's working. See also: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws
I'm sure Trump saying liberals have to buy Teslas will drive up sales.... how could that possibly fail?
To quote that iconic bus driver: gargle my balls
Why the hell would I want to buy anything from the fucking Nazis? The competition has surpassed the shit from Tesla.
Your not allowed to do that
Giving cars more rights than women.
If the king don't like it...
BUY PRODUCT. something something freedom camp.
I might be interested once his down market options become available. Only because anything equivalent has been tariffed to nonexistence.
Does anyone have a link to the post? I did not see it In the article
I called it! I said they'd try and do a reverse class action lawsuit and sue people for not buying his cars.